What are some good books explaining the increasing madness of the modern world considering that barely a day ago a...

It's your bedtime Dr Pinker

culture of critique goes into some of the influences

Walter Benjamin predicted it best, imo

What's he say?

Claimed that society was moving towards a "shock reality" wherein moments appear disconnected from one another and no longer cohere to a single life. That is, life becomes a series of continual "shocks" from every angle. Also claimed that fascism grew out of the aestheticization of politics and war: fascism is based purely on image.

Think about Twitter and /pol/, which also function in small "shocks" of image and content, none of them actually adding up.

Does he say what gives rise to this? Why it happens in the first place?

Well, he died before he finished his esoteric theory of History, but it basically comes down to the rise of specifically modern consumer Capitalism, which he sees first appearing in Second Empire France, particularly its Arcades (thus his obsession with Baudelaire). But he also thinks that the material conditions of factory work, which is nothing but independent repetitive movements, has a lot to do with it.
Insofar as the Nazis, Benjamin was the first to really say explicitly that everything imaginable had become commodified, and therefore can only be related to as a relationship of image and ownership.

I'm sorry for not getting into detail, it's late and I'm tired. If this thread is still up tomorrow I'll get more into it. But check him out, I really think he's the thinker we need right now.

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Old testament, specifically tower of babel and cain/abel

That shooting is nothing in comparison to how many people die from preventable causes each day. Yet you don't care. You're impressionable, that's just a fact.

They deserved to die because Semitic religions are a scourge of the earth. Stop being Christian. Stop being Jewish. Stop being Muslim. Stop being Mormon. Stop being Amish. Stop.

Honestly I figure it's white folks take accelerationism to its logical endpoint and just off ourselves en masse, we don't deserve this

The fact you don't understand there's a difference between someone slaughtering 49 innocents in a peaceful western nation and people dying from malaria or dysentery in some third world country proves that you are a low-grade intelligence incapable of higher thinking and reasoning.

>Muslims
>peaceful
Shut up, Jew

I think he means the millions of fat ass sedentary people who gorge themselves to death
Islam is pretty peaceful but the extremists take it to the wrong level. It's like judging Christianity from a zealous fanatic

Read Society of the Spectacle. The real problem with whites is that they're ultimately afraid of muslims, not as a foreign invader, but as torch bearers of Being. White people in developed countries are being eaten alive by Spectacle day by day. Their goals are mediated by images, their media is passive, they have absolutely no relationship w/r/t their communities, their entertainment is for profit, they throw old people away to elderly homes etc. then they see these strange people wearing weird garments, being together, praising Allah in unison, maintaining old traditions alive. Muslim immigrants are only partially immersed in Spectacle. Since their countries are poor as fuck, they haven't been able to internalize the industrial mindset and live life within the confines of the Calculative. They're closer to Being. The white guys like this one and Breivik think it's the muslims who are destroying western civilization, Christianity, traditional values, etc. but they're just stupid.
Whites did it to themselves.

Walden. Man needs a return to nature. His urban hells have left him mentally deranged and emotionally bereft. There is no way to avoid insane people from existing in a city. Because for the city environment to exist animals (humans) need to be torn from their natural habitat (wilderness and natural living). A baby taken from her mother will certainly be neurotic; how should we view man and natures departure any different.

found the sandnigger

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muh nouvelle droite is le 56% meme with a beret and a baguette. but anyways, right wingers should convert to islam its the only way. Dieudonne is Based, Sam Hyde wishes he was the american dieudonne

critical theory shit in general is good, society of the spectacle especially

i would maybe check out fanged noumena but remember prescriptive accelerationism is fucking stupid, land became a shitty fascist after leaving academia, and really should be read as art and not philosophy.

This post speaks the truth. You don't have to become a Muslim btw, just go back to Christian traditions

Multi-racialism -> Low social trust -> Collapse of Civic Institutions-> Alienation/Isolation -> Extremism -> Mass Shootings

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This. In the manifesto the killer states that part of his motive was environmental

Try the philosophic base of it all. Philosophic operants always have and always will be trend setters.

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No.

religious traditions and community are a spectacle

numbers mean nothing

what a retarded thing you wrote

Collapse of Civic institutions and social cohesion is due to Capitalism

community is for the weak and those who are trying to help the weak

Honestly, kill yourself

you assume that you know anything at all about other humans

Hayy Ibn Yaqzan

There is absolutely no difference though

I see the logic behind the argument and a case can be made that the West through away community.
(This is really akin to Marx analysis of alienation, except that one is not for relationship with other people alone, but also with the things we do/work and who we do it for.)
The issue I have is that I can also see that the spectacle is more interesting than ones grandma and whatnot. We lost something, but going back to it isn't a great life either.
I'm not living a bad life, so if things are to change, I want sublimation to somehting new.

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Are spectacles just spooks?

Western society exists outside of Yea Forums. What we threw away was you.

>but going back to it isn't a great life either
That's simply because you can't grasp the Being
>if things are to change, I want sublimation to somehting new
and that's because you have no idea what tradition is

>you have no idea what tradition is
Just a bunch of primitive dead white men telling you how to live your life, lol no thanks

nick land situationist pipe dreams hermetic revolution, abolishing reality we are as gods and we might as well get good at it hahahahs 3048305-t0it40trn

Read Ballard fuckboi

Proved my point, thanks.

You could be right, I won't deny that.
It's just from historic accounts, I don't actually get the impression that life in the past was better. That's why I mentioned I life a quite good life.

Land seemed to have become a racist from drugs and who know why - he's not to be aspired, he (and others) just brought about the cypher-punk aesthetic that has an appeal.

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this is my bible
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Funny, the book he presented shows that there were strong institutions even during capitalism.

It's like institutions aren't only about economics, it's like history and technology have something to do with it beyond capitalism.

It's like there are other things that influence the world.

Friedrich Von Hayek's concept of market economics is a cybernetic concept: the market as a massive self regulating information exchange system, that's just been getting more and more efficient as the capacity to harvest information grows and grows. Our civilisation is built on the ruins of the war effort of the 40s and the subsequent dyonisian orgy of the 60s just like medieval civilisation was built on the ruins of Rome. hippies took to buckminster fuller's ideal of the comprehensive designer and the cowboy archetype of the american frontier, in the 70s and 80s, cyberpunk filled the vacuum left behind by utopia, the refuse and the remnant of runaway capital accumulation. Reagan and Thatcher were not conservatives, but revolutionary agents of deterritorialisation. Trump and May are nothing but degenerated clones of the original prototype. Our popular culture, now managed by investment bankers, focus groups and 'woke' 20th somethings, remains likewise fixated on the collective childhood of the 80s. social media becomes another way of enforcing repression and narcissistic dependency. The spectre of the alt right is just another disciplinary boogeyman, just like 'radical islamic terrorism' and the soviet international. It's relation to the liberal media and the frightened cyberserfs is one of codependency. a self regulating system means something else entirely when you are the one being regulated.

The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements (Eric Hoffer, 1951).

Currently reading it myself actually.

Here's a simple book trying to describe how we might be entering an era where we view catastrophe as a given, like people in combat zones that don't jump when they hear an explosion anymore.

I feel dazed by how the first responses to any one of these threads is a meme, like they were the only people ever to have anything relevant to say about anything. I wonder if there is a perfect analysis hidden in some extremist studies book somewhere that was released in 2017 and that no one bothered to read, instead thinking that the true answer lies in esoteric bullshit

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I've read 4 Ballard books, which one best describes this stuff? He's great but alot of his characters sort of have this Messianic aura around them while these mass shooters are all total autists

Good rec

Murder happens all the time you’re just letting the media cuck you

Global Capitalism leads to multi-racialism.

"Multi-racialism" has existed since Roman times and occurred under feudalism. The notion of "ownership" of one's race and racial history didn't even occur as a concept until late 19th century imperialism.

I somewhat agree with this. An isolated tribe in the Amazon, without contact with the outside world (even with the Brazilian/Venezuelan/Colombian cities) cannot be characterized as poor. But as soon as someone from civilization finds the tribe and introduces jeans, electricity, money and such, the tribe immediately becomes poor. Being poor means you relate to someone who isn't. The Spectacle is the same. I gather from your post that you're either new to Yea Forums or just not very knowledgeable, but the reason why your grandma doesn't seem all that interesting is that she isn't supposed to be, but her role in the community has been throughly destroyed by the Spectacle. She doesn't take care of children, she doesn't hold the keys to old songs and plays, she is nothing but decay. The Spectacle isn't interesting, it's inescapable, it ravages everything in its way. These Muslim immigrants will probably embrace it in a few generations, while the ones that stay in Afghanistan will live in this weird realm of Being and not-Being. People who say "just go back being Christian and defending Christ etc" are just delusional. Under our current mode of production it's impossible to do that in any meaningful way.

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>I wonder if there is a perfect analysis hidden in some extremist studies book somewhere that was released in 2017 and that no one bothered to read
I wonder that about many other topics, like perhaps a perfect analysis of the insanity of the modern western world was written but by a rather unknown estonian psychiatrist in the late 80s in some soviet medical journal and fewer than 500 people ever read it.

>tfw people not only save your anonymous schizoposts but repost them obsessively across the internet

if i wasnt a literal autist with crippling social anxiety i might have been a cult leader.

It's for reasons like this that you search through bibliographies like crazy

>Increasing
All in all what's happening today is pretty mild compared to what happened with the totalitarian ideologies of the xx century.

>What are some good books explaining the increasing madness of the modern world
1984
Lord of the Flies

You really don't have to read anything complicated to know how easily things can go batshit. Though spending at least 6 months working in retail to experience how the general public is retarded and entitled as a supplement is usually helpful.

if it really was a perfect analysis, it would have spread wide on it's own

Absolutely based and Girard-pilled.

Also pic related

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Not necessarily, I once heard for example that a decently sized problem with much of the scientific literature of the former USSR is that it was often only released in russian, a language increasingly less spoken outside the few traditional eastern slavic countries (Ukraine, Russia, Belarus), central asia and Mongolia.

Better Angels of Our Nature by Pinker

We live in the richest, safest, and most stable time in human history. You're just too young and ignorant of the past to know.

That and God knows how many Soviet works were either destroyed or never written due to censorship or fear

But that doesn't make it any more sensible or happy. While people enjoy longer lifespans, they seem to suffer the worst isolation known to human history. We know more than any time period ever, but the knowledge we get either doesn't help or becomes so overbearing that it in turn confuses and overwhelms us.

Depression is rampant, anxiety is rampant, people are on meds all the time. Fuck you.

I think we should strip women of any post-1900 right and make abortion illegal, that will be the first step towards recovery.

>imminent ecological crisis
>imminent political crisis due to hollowing out of the middle class
the richest, safest, and most whatever positive adjective period in human history was the years from the end of ww2 to the late nineties, nowadays we're on the edge of a possible planetary clusterfuck

I want to make condoms illegal.

This book doesn't even have a chapter on multi racialism

There may be trade-offs inherent to modernity. For example we may have more alienation but there is also more tolerance of deviance because we have moved away from small scale kin based social organization. We may produce weak men but it is because we don't grow up fighting starvation and the horsemen on our border. I can feel the loss of ancestral community and the hardiness of warrior tribesman, but I don't like to romanticize pain and struggle. The events of the first half of 20th century are one result of this kind of thinking. I am glad we don't execute homosexuals or expose deformed children. I am glad that we don't have to defend our livelihood from raiders who want to kill us and enslave our children.

Yeah dude nobody's saying shit is better than living a trash life near the dawn of existence, only that it still sucks and has problems that are inherent to the current system with no feasible alternative present.

There basically wasn't a middle class until the industrial revolution. And climate has always driven history.

I don't disagree (although if I wanted to be a bit pedantic I could talk about how historically there have been a lot of economic groups who weren't upper class but they weren't exactly lower class either), but how does that contradict what I said?

you realize that Muslim terrorists regularly kill more people, and that Mexicans kill even more people than the Muslims do in the grand scheme of things, but in comically sadistic ways, and no one seems to care about this?

Pretty sure "white" people just don't want to be blown up by some idiotic Muslim that their government invited to settle there because the government wants to give said Muslim money to buy things. This is no different than Americans watching a video of the cartels flaying some fellow's face off and deciding "You know, I don't really want have my face flayed off."

looks very interesting, ty user

Shit ain't so bad and if it gets a little worse it's still better than 99% of human history

This is the first high-casualty white guy terror attack since Utoya massacre eight years ago. That isn't much. What we have now that makes it feel like "muh accelerationism" is the gopro livestream which ends up on liveleak where you can watch the whole thing.

Did you even read what I wrote?

The Vegas shooter was just a couple years ago user

>attacked a country music concert

Steven paddock was an antiwhite terrorist, probably motivated by progressive ideas. or maybe he was just taking the piss, idk

>where you can watch the whole thing
LINK

Fair enough, but that was simple mass murder, not a terrorist attack. There was no apparent political objective, he just seems to have picked a place where a lot of people would be heavily concentrated and lit them up for the hell of it. There's no Paddock manifesto. THAT is actually a much better case for "muh unraveling western world" because it doesn't make any sense.

Yes, it's an extreme over-intellectualization of the situation at hand. No one is thinking about how scary this foreign group is because they have a strong community and are rooted in a tradition, in contrast to Europeans who are atomized, etc. They care about not getting shot up by someone who decides that Jihad sounds like a good idea on any particular afternoon. Do you think Europeans would be afraid of a Japanese cohort wearing traditional garments, doing Buddhist rituals, and maintaining their old traditions? Please.

Meant to reply to >Muslim immigrants are only partially immersed in Spectacle. Since their countries are poor as fuck, they haven't been able to internalize the industrial mindset and live life within the confines of the Calculative. They're closer to Being.

Do you consider the Bataclan massacre, assorted trucks of peace, Rotherham etc. closeness to Being, or, for the equivalent on the other side of the pond, flaying someone's face off, or abducting a family, murdering a man's son in front of him then raping his wife to death just to prove a point, a form of closeness to Being?

jihadis and nigger criminals are like achilles and odysseus, manful warriors living fully integrated lives, and not giving a single fuck, the only men left in this bureaucratic and feminised society. while western men are pussies who don't believe in anything, they are afraid of violence and only wish to preserve their degenerate lifestyle of pornography videogames legal weed and gay marriage.

>the only men left in this bureaucratic and feminised society

Yes, these manful warriors running over people with a truck of peace because they feel bad about having been a bad Muslim, or raping an 8 year old Mestiza on the way up from Guatemala before forcing her to swallow heroin baggies, are the modern-day versions of Greek heroes. Please.

>Yes, these manful warriors running over people with a truck of peace because they feel bad about having been a bad Muslim, or raping an 8 year old Mestiza on the way up from Guatemala before forcing her to swallow heroin baggies,
you obviously haven't read the illiad. what's wrong whit a bit of the old ultraviolence?

>Yes, these manful warriors running over people with a truck of peace because they feel bad about having been a bad Muslim, or raping an 8 year old Mestiza on the way up from Guatemala before forcing her to swallow heroin baggies, are the modern-day versions of Greek heroes.
didnt they literally trown babies from the trojan walls while they rape and steal while the city burning in the background?

That was a war, and it's still immoral. The persons in question, in Mexico, were former soldiers who opted to terrorize their own people, for money.

look m8, i respect radical islamic terrorists for their brutality, I would be proud to fight with them as comrades i would be proud to fight against them as enemies. what is wrong with brutality?

how is it different from a bunch of achaeans storming the trojan beaches and burning down a couple of cities because they wanted to be the strongest local power?

Maybe you should pay a visit to Syria or join the cartel and find out for yourself. Somehow I suspect you haven't done much fighting in your life, but I could be wrong. If there's anyone worthy of respect in the Middle Eastern wars it's the men who've fought against Jihadis (who are largely state-sponsored terrorists backed by Israel and the USA).

The closest equivalent would be the Achaean soldiers defecting and storming their own city, enslaving their own people and selling them off.

Meant to reply to with the first bit.

>no feasible alternative present
>what is anarcho-syndicalism

so it's okay to brutally murder people if they're from the town next to yours? gotcha

No, but presumably a war between Greek city-states has its closest equivalent (for the sake of this discussion) in a modern war between nations. It's still not moral to go around raping children. It's even worse when you're a solider who is ostensibly supposed to fight for your country, or be loyal to it at a bare minimum, and aren't even in a war, toinstead say "Nah, I'd rather go around raping/flaying etc. just to prove that I'm scarier than the cartel adjacent to me".

>If there's anyone worthy of respect in the Middle Eastern wars it's the men who've fought against Jihadis (who are largely state-sponsored terrorists backed by Israel and the USA).

>Be hundreds of miles safely away from warzone
>Press button
>Missiles launch
>Huge explosion on warzone ensues
So this, is war?

can you guys just hug and kiss already

They have urban warfare in Syria, dude. Besides, anyone who fights for their country against Israel is worthy of respect.

>It's even worse when you're a solider who is ostensibly supposed to fight for your country, or be loyal to it at a bare minimum
Do you even understand what a narcostate is? Why would anyone be loyal to that

Los Zetas, for example, counted many former Mexican special forces members among its founders enticed by higher pay. This is back when Mexico was just another Latin American dump.

how many people is 49 people

incredibly underrated post. The glib sincerity. The picture for ants. You couldn't have been more of a dick if you tried.

Keep up the excellent work.

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I respect this dedication

>afraid
Casting position x or y as being the result of projected fear or anxiety or insecurity is a bad intellectual habit resulting from not appreciating that this mode of reasoning is a population control mechanism used by the elite to delegitimize all non-elite opinion. It can only be "proven" false if you are educated, popular, fuck a lot, well liked, have a good job and apartment in a desirable area, etc. etc.

>Yeah we're miserable now but you can let other dudes fuck your asshole whenever you want ;)
So this is the power of modernity...

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We're more lonely but we have privacy and tolerate deviance that historically would be punished with death or ostracism. To deviants that means they have a chance to live.

Mao II

>tfw habermas' concept of a legitimacy crisis applies to the entire cosmological framework of the liberal weltanschauung itself

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You guys know thousands of innocent muslims in the middle east die each month because of western "intervention"? This whole event is nothing compared to whats happening in their homelands every day. At least he kills them for a reason unlike American soldiers.

Jews hate muslims more than white people do dumbass. They started all the wars in the middle east so they can form greater isreal or whatever the fuck their goal is.

I grew tired of most of the things that are said in this thread, because I've read them a thousand times already. Can't you guys give your surrounding a little bit credibility and assume that the post you are about to make is something that people, who browse this God forsake site, have already read multiple times and then jump to the next thought with the same assumption until you reach one that might be a novelty.

Or at least quote an author that isn't a complete retard.

Interesting

Are memes a rhizome?

isn't it an abstraction on top of an abstraction on top of an abstraction, while the base problem stays the same?

I wonder if this shooting is a sign that the far right is going through its 1970s phase, like the New Left did after the Summer Of Love amounted to a big fat nothing. In this case, Unite The Right is the Summer of Love, and these new military groups are their Weather Underground and Japanese Red Army. They even have their own vanguard comedian, Sam Hyde.
I wonder if this is a sign that things are actually incredibly desperate for them.

I’m leavibg the west after this attack. Muslims are gonna be shooting us the fuck up man and it’s gonna be hell for the next couple of years. I’mma go to Singapore Honk Kong or Japan. I don’t know which yet but I can’t stay here and watch my countries fall.

>habermas' concept of a legitimacy crisis
Sounds stupid. The average person runs their home like a bureaucracy, and half the population rallies behind Hillary or Trump.
Boomers rally behind an invisible institution even though there's not a single piece of evidence that it exists.

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They really won't. ISIS threatens shit all the time. If and when the West collapses it'll be its own doing, likely a combo of authoritarian right radicals, catastrophic climate events, and the breakdown of capitalism

And, of course, even the opposition believes in the exact same thing. They just want a level of irony, or some other attachment which merely proves they don't understand the system they're dealing with.

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I might honestly have to pick up Infinite Jest again in light of the ironic nature of the attack. People need a way to have authentic experiences and connections with one another again.

>DFW
>authentic

He's not, but that's part of the whole point of the work

Libido Dominandi

All of pinkers work is completely bogus statistically

Douglas Rushkoff - Present Shock talks about exactly this. Partly continues Neil Postman. A bit dated but i recommend it.

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>the left will have no role to play in the collapse
You guys have a complete lack of self awareness.

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Interesting take, but the radical Left of the 70s was essentially radicalized by to terror by Civil Rights being concluded and the Vietnam war ending. The radical Right is radicalized by mass 3rd world immigration, which show no signs of even slowing down.

>the Left is STILL larping as the opposition in current year

There is nothing mad in this. You may disagree with it, but it is not madness.
Psychiatryzing like this isn't very productive and will only result in bizarre cieclejerks of 'interpretation' with no euristic value whatsoever.

Just because you make a few jokes while doing something doesn't mean that whole act ironic.
Fucking humourless claps.

The world is ending soon

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>What are some good books explaining the increasing madness of the modern world
Crisis of the Modern World, by Monsieur René

Perlstein, The Invisible Bridge

>Muslims genocide 6000 Christians in Nigeria since the start of 2019
>Muslims routinely form rape gangs within Western countries specifically targeting tens of thousands of little white girls
>Muslims consistently murder the native whites they leech off and use their comfortable position in Western countries to support terrorist organizations
Well I never read this when I was skimming the Twitter feed of the New York Times, so to me (a colossal retard) it didn't happen and doesn't matter

>one guy kills a couple dozen Muslims (a minuscule fraction of the number of native whites who have been raped, killed, abused, tortured, injured, and displaced by our wonderful new neighbors who make our communities stronger)
How could this happen! The world will never be the same! Something must be done! White supremacy! #notallmuslims! The atrocity of it all! The terror! It's unprecedented, truly! How can we go on knowing that this happened? Never again!

Out of curiosity, how many of you Twitter-brained progressives had this indignant and terrified reaction when Omar Mateen slaughtered an equivalent number of people in the modern Western equivalent to a mosque?

But actually, this "chaos" and "instability" is incredibly fucking easy to stop. I have never seen such an obvious solution to the rampant epidemic of Islamophobia we're witnessing in the West. The solution is so fucking obvious that I think there must be huffing household cleaning supplies if you can't see it. But since I'm chatting with open-minded progressives I will spell it out for you nevertheless:

Basically, if you don't want people to kill Muslims, then you have to stop dumping an infinite number of inbred 90 IQ murderous desert peasants into every white community you can find.

Once again, the solution that will solve every single problem you pretend to have:

STOP

IMPORTING

USELESS

WHINY

BROWN PEOPLE

And wow, would you look at that? No more Islamophobia and Muslim killings! And with regard to real issues, no more terrorism and government-supported rape gangs either. No more instability or chaos, no more "unraveling" Western nations, no more "deranged" young men saying they've had enough with your bullshit and if they're going to be wiped out of existence then they're bringing some of you along for the ride.

Of course this solution will never be enacted because it's too fucking obvious and easy to implement, but it's fun to imagine a future in which progs don't run the planet forever

People should have the right to live anywhere they want

It's literally nothing. They're are plenty of worse things that don't make it into the media all the time.

You're disillusional if you think they're actually fighting terrorist. They can literally call any Muslim with a long beard a terrorist, and there's that. The U.S had nearly 30 year war with Iraq. What do you think the soldiers were doing, passing out candy on the streets? Anyone who thinks the West is innocent is disillusional.

based & truthpilled

i'd like to request asylum in your home and help myself to your food along with your mother/sister/gf

Idiot

Critical difference is that the Left at the time had the support of intel agencies, academia, civil service, media and Foundations and the right does not, leftists were basically janissaries for liberals during that period (as always). They provided militant support for decisions already made by America's ruling class. Most of those radicals ended up becoming today's liberals and work in government, academia, the nonprofit sector, and so on.

There is no difference whatsoever which is apparent to anyone of intelligence, what you call the western world is simply the product of suffering elsewhere subsidized by distance. It doesn't always work out in the west's favor and when it does countless faggots have a cry, well cry on faggot, it will pass.

That isn't the same thing as open borders. Stop moving goal posts

>The solution is so fucking obvious that I think there must be huffing household cleaning supplies if you can't see it. But since I'm chatting with open-minded progressives I will spell it out for you nevertheless:
For some reason it never occurred to me before reading this, but it makes sense. People do things for a reason.

1. No they shouldn't, that's a very stupid idea
2. People should have the right to decide who gets to live in their communities and who doesn't

That's an interesting idea. I'd like to point out the end result of the Weather Underground's antics and the radical left's "long march through the institutions" was that they became liberals and neocons. More or less all of them. There are no Weather Underground equivalents to lost Japanese soldiers living on a tropical island and believing WWII is still going on. They were corrupted, end of story. They took jobs at the CIA, the NYT, and Ivy league universities; they woke up one morning and discovered that they had accidentally memed themselves into becoming everything they originally stood against.

And isn't this similar to the fate of Trumpism? I honestly am skeptical that any release from our death spiral is possible. The system seems fundamentally broken and beyond popular influence. You could put the fattest, stupidest, most online and most woke Chapo Hot House host into the office of President, and nothing would happen. The West would maintain its full-speed course towards its inevitable doom. The rich would keep getting richer. The wars would keep getting longer and more pointless. Unfiltered mass immigration would continue unabated. People would remain poor and angry and obese.

Culture of narcissism.

>They were corrupted, end of story. They took jobs at the CIA, the NYT, and Ivy league universities; they woke up one morning and discovered that they had accidentally memed themselves into becoming everything they originally stood against.

Did they really? The center is now more or less equivalent to what a college activist c. 1965 believed.

>And isn't this similar to the fate of Trumpism? I honestly am skeptical that any release from our death spiral is possible. The system seems fundamentally broken and beyond popular influence. You could put the fattest, stupidest, most online and most woke Chapo Hot House host into the office of President, and nothing would happen.
The Presidency doesn't matter. It only has power when coordinating with the intel-academia-media-civil service complex.

The system grows more fragile with time.

>He doesn't even know the goals of his satan

No way, open borders is a human right. No /pol/lack can convince me otherwise

>latin gay bar
>modern Western equivalent to a mosque

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Imagine thinking anyone is going to read your massive sperg out post about brown people in a literature board lmaaaaooo

hmm i've had similar thoughts and been looking to start a cult. if i've got the good looks and charisma, do you want to do some holybook writing for me?

>increasing madness of the modern world
What madness? We're living better than ever. Soi drinks come in many flavors, I just bought two Nintendo Switches (one for me one for my wife's son) with my average wage alone and LGBT people have more and more rights, thanks to people like me who can keep up with the times and aren't stuck in the 50s.

These shootings are irrelevant. You're more likely to get killed by a lightning strike. Don't bother yourself with such nonsense, just enjoy all the stuff you can buy/consume. Get a Netflix subscription. Watch a new Hollywood movie. Buy that old Wu-Tang vinyl. The possibilities are endless.

You're the fifth person to read and respond to that post

Yeah they did. Read the book Days of Rage for a good survey on what these New Left clowns did and where they ended up (the ones who didn't accidentally blow themselves up in their rich Jewish daddy's townhome, I mean). Read Houellebecq for a good overview of the effects of the 68ers' narcissism and corruption.

Basically they won the culture war, then immediately sold-out to became lapdogs for the liberal establishment they always unwittingly served

The former head of the CIA John Brennan was a member of CPUSA in the 70s. Now he whines about Trump on CNN and tries to goad the MIC into wars in the Middle East
Bernardine Dohrn went from being a breeding ground for crabs and various STDs to teaching law at Northwestern and Columbia
Eldridge Cleaver became a Republican. Tells you a lot about the state of the GOP

I really could go on. There are a thousand examples of their cowardice and ineffectiveness and hypocrisy despite all their posturing to the contrary. It's not entirely their fault (the cowardice and ineffectiveness, I mean, not their smug and obnoxious attitude). It's just the nature of the beast

>Bernardine Dohrn
> Her father, Bernard, changed the family surname to Dohrn when Bernardine was in high school.[3] Her father was Jewish and her mother, Dorothy (née Soderberg), was of Swedish background
Is there a worse possible heritage than this? Jewish AND Swedish. How awful.

B&R

Yeah, bro, euros are not the most bloodthirsty people on Earth and they haven't killed themselves, amerindians and abos at all. "White" people history is truly a story of peace and harmony. You fuckwad. Youre pathetic and extremely stupid.

baby too weak to die

absolutely correct and based

>white ppl r so evil
>but pls white ppl let us live in your countries and be dicks to you

who are you quoting?

too weak for actual religious experience, needs to live a life in a community so they can deal with the trauma of existing and being too weak to exist, needs ceremony and human company and meaningless words to allow them to keep running away from reality, living and dying like an animal, needs to feel like they are intelligent and strong to sustain the illusion that they're not defective and headed straight for oblivion

What nobody in this thread has said is the correct andwe, and it's a truly simple one: capitalism. If capital and products converge spatiotemporally to some continents, inevitably labor will follow. There is no escaping from this economical law. You either let the muslims in, or you help develop their countries, or you massacre them. Option two goes against most neoliberal models and would be very expensive and take too long (the rate of development in these shitty countries would take too long to approach any sort of halt point for immigration. This is probably too simplistic, because you'd have to calculate the effect of huge investments in retaining labor, but you get the intuition). Option three is too barbaric unless you're some pathetic incel. Then you have option one, which is basically what every single normal politician has realized is the inevitable outcome of free trade.

They've blocked Yea Forums in Australia, legit fucking scared now.

bumping for victory

you said anywhere? the only one moving goalposts is you, retard

So ill take that as you not having an argument against open borders

>undermine a foriegn government by funneling drugs into your own country to fund death squads to kill the populace until the vote differently
>funnel million of dollars from black project slushfunds and oil sheiks into a backwoods country to fund a proxywar with youre absolutely paranoid over despite it being on the verge of collapse for a decade
>soviets fuck off and you dont bother looking into following shitshow of warlords
>network of backwoods goatfuckers decide they dont like you anymore and start fucking your shit up
>shit bricks and ban anyone from looking too closely at terrorist network bank records, spread a bunch of conspiracy theories so no one realizes you ended up funding attacks on your own soil
>proceed to declare war on a verb
>occupy backwoods country (cause that worked out well for the lastguys right? lol)
>proceed to invade random country that has absolutely nothing at all to do with anything related what youre doing at what can only be assumed the flip of a fucking coin
>justify with falsified reports (this will totally not backfire later) make up story of being a bastion of the verb you declared war on, despite no evidence
>every moron will completely forgot about this and immediately pickup the story you madeup after the fake reports werent convincing enough, that the country needed to be "liberated" despite your current billions of dollars in expenditures in propping up regimes
>country you "liberated" immediately becomes a bastion of terror with people coming over the border on the weekends to take potshots
>million or so civillian deaths later
>still in both countries, longer than any involvement in any foriegn conflict
>continue dropping bombs on weddings on the off chance there might be some sorta "terrorist" nearby
>execute a citizen by dropping a bomb on him with out due process despite founding your country on the very opposite of said action
>not a peep

>some australian does something australian
>HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS WORLD IS UPSIDE DOWN

pinker deserves the bullet well before before those mudslimes desu senpai

it's hard to tell if this is really shit tier bait or not

abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s705071.htm
These things are not new things. Go back even further and there's more. This attack and the one on the OP are motivated by misinformation and ignorance of the target, and it's always been like this. It's the same for the muslims that commit to terrorism against the western countries, ignorance both of Islam and the western civilization.
You've probably read this before too but I explain this to people and mostly they become emotional about it rather than thinking about if satan was in a room with 50 men and whispering in the ear of each man in turn that his fellow or this fellow or that fellow are and is his enemy and he must prepare to defend himself, no, would it not be better to attack him first.
Here is a rock, now he tells the other man that this man has a rock and intends to throw it, here is a knife, then a gun. That's what is happening and has always been happening.
Remember when Bush II was using Hitler's speeches and there was an absolute existential threat to the world. And they never found who was sending the anthrax in the mail. There was an article that in Canada or somewhere else that they had created a fly (which was false, but code).

>one guy kills a couple dozen Muslims (a minuscule fraction of the number of native whites who have been raped, killed, abused, tortured, injured, and displaced by our wonderful new neighbors who make our communities stronger)
So it is terrorism? A white terrorist attack against a mosque, with the political goal of stopping the immigration of x types of people. Thanks for clarifying that and also you are a supporter of terrorism. I sincerely hope that they catch you.

>Jews hate muslims more than white people do dumbass.
Yes, but devout jews hate christians even more than they hate muslims, practitioners of idolatry are the worst kind of degenerates according to jewish religious texts, its the ultimate metaphysical error.

>>Jews hate muslims more than white people do dumbass.
semitic fratricidal instincts

Anyone else had a look at /pol/ lately? Moot really should have deleted it. Poor Chinese Moot is stuck with it now.

Moot got out just in time.

Sociologist Zygmunt Bauman's "Liquid" series might provide some of the insight you're looking for.

Nixonland

Didn't it get deleted when it was /news/

unusually good post 2bh

>dude x people all think this and y people all think that

What is with some people and not being able to think outside basic in-group mentality.

Imagine what this poster looks like. Imagine his physical build.

iliad

the ''madness'' is nothing new

They poured across it in flight, while Hera spread a dense fog there to thwart them.The rest were forced into the deep pools of the river with its silvery currents, flinging themselves into the echoing water, splashing through the falls, as the banks resounded. This way and that they swam, shouting, whirled about in the flow. Like a swarm of locusts fleeing before the sudden remorseless onset of raging fire, that fly to a river and cluster in its shallows, so the echoing pools of swirling Xanthus were filled with a confusion of men and horses at the onset of Achilles.

the muslims cluster in the 2 corners at the onset of the shooter

There the warrior, beloved of Zeus, left his spear against a tamarisk bush, and leapt in, like a demon, with only his sword, striking right and left, murder in his heart. Hideous groans rose from the dying men, and the water was red with their blood. The Trojans cowered in the pools of that terrible stream, under the overhanging banks, like swarms of fish fleeing a huge dolphin that greedily devours all it catches and filling the coves in some sheltered bay or harbour. When his arms were weary of the slaughter,

shooter drops shotgun changes to rifle and continues slaughtering

So the highborn son of Priam pleaded with Achilles, but harsh was the reply.

‘Fool, do not talk to me of ransom, make me no speeches! Before the day of fate overtook Patroclus, I had a mind to spare you Trojans. Many I took alive, selling them far away. Now not one shall keep his life, of all the gods send to my hands before Troy not one solitary Trojan, and least of all the sons of Priam. You too, my friend, must die: why so sad?

the heelp mee heelp me lady begs for help/mercy

Proud Achilles’ horses trampled dead men and shields alike as grain is swiftly trampled under the feet of the broad-browed bellowing oxen a farmer yokes to tread white barley on a stone threshing floor. The axle and the chariot rim were black with blood thrown up by the hooves and the wheels as the son of Peleus pressed on to glory, his all-conquering arms spattered with gore.

the heelp mee heelp me ladys corpse being run over

iliad is a book about the most disturbing truths of the human condition.

3000 years later it still parallels with reality

I guess this is your brain on /pol/. Gonna go ahead and give this the yikes it deserves. Yikes.

Not him, White people are not blood thirsty, are you a fucking idiot?

Have you ever talked to the a group of Arabs walking down the streets of Berlin, wearing shit and walking around everywhere with a knife? These sorts should never be welcomed in any civilized country but sadly for Europe the majority of young Muslim men act like autists. They have the same mentality to religion as a former crook has to Christianity after he becomes "saved" in prison.

No, they don't.
Not only do they not give a shit about people from other religions, that is also the exact case with any group anywhere.

When was the last time that you heard a Christian talk about religious Jews? How religious do you wanna go? The average "orthodox" Jew is no more religious than practicing Christians, and as for ultra-orthodox, they are so deluded inside their own communities that no one cares about them or they about anyone else.

The more religious the Muslims the more they impose themselves on society, ultra-orthodox also do this but to a much weaker extent, unlike Muslims they try to separate themselves, while muslims stay right where they are and demand for the world to work under their will.

I don't think a book like that has been written yet. It hasn't been that long since everyone has been living in a digital ether. I suppose Infinite Jest, but maybe that's dated now, I haven't read it.

not an argument

I see people walking around with open carries, try not being a pussy

physically cringed reading this

>letters
But it was revealed that the FBI made it all up.

This.

Just because a few incels are unhappy does not mean we have descended into madness.

It's terrible that violence still happens. But on the whole police services are lowering incidents of violence every year, and the wealth distribution has nearly eliminated crime.

The old sanitariums have been eliminated, and workplaces are covering wellness for employees so that they do not have to seek medical on their own time and through their own costs. This is a benefit to everyone.

E unibus pluram is great for the irony-digital comms connection.

>So then how have irony, irreverence, and rebellion come to be not liberating but enfeebling in the culture today's avant-garde tries to write about? One clue's to be found in the fact that irony is still around, bigger than ever after thirty long years as the dominant mode of hip expression. It's not a mode that wears especially well. As Hyde puts it, "Irony has only emergency use. Carried over time, it is the voice of the trapped who have come to enjoy their cage." This is because irony, entertaining as it is, serves an exclusively negative function. It's critical and destructive, a ground-clearing. Surely this is the way our postmodern fathers saw it. But irony's singularly unuseful when it comes to constructing anything to replace the hypocrisies it debunks. This is why Hyde seems right about persistent irony being tiresome. It is unmeaty. Even gifted ironists work best in sound bites.

>White people are not blood thirsty,
Which posts in the thread are yours?

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There are a good number of books that attempt to explain what's going on. Anons have already (from a brief glimpse) suggested authors like Debord and Baudrillard, to whom I'd add Marshall Mcluhan.

The blog Samzdat has a great series of write-ups on four books worth reading, so I'll just link their index and you can look into them.

samzdat.com/the-uruk-series/

I'd also suggest books on the philosophic problems of Modernity such as those by Robert Pippin, Michael Allen Gilespie, and Stanley Rosen (the latter's Hermeneutics as Politics in particular). Other important philosophic approaches toward understanding the problems of modernity worth looking into might be Husserl's Crisis of the European Sciences, Heidegger's The Question Concerning Technology, and just about anything by Leo Strauss (who tends to raise problems and then refuse to spell them out in an obvious way).

Nietzsche's writings can also be helpful, raising the problem of how we go about valuing anything in the harsh light of science and Enlightenment philosophy.

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I don't think humanity is very peaceful. At least, humans like to meddle in other humans' affairs as well as ostracize someone in the group.
>and Breivik think it's the muslims who are destroying western civilization, Christianity, traditional values, etc. but they're just stupid.
My family is each in their own corner. It's funny, we could do so much better if we put our heads and hands together. Some in the family can't handle money, others can't socialize, the old are just thrown away no matter what their skillset or legacy is. You "get help" by going to a professional who won't be your friend nor any real emotional support outside of their appointments. All I see is funny.

deranged living meme walked into a mosque and murdered 49 people in cold blood?

odysseus and a few others locked over 100 people in a building and shot them and chopped them up and strangled the shit out of them,they are not madmen they had legitimate reasons.

woke as fuck

it's just relativism to some is not justify to others it is, it just part and parcel of living in a postmodernist world, enjoy the ride :)

based

Check out this retard

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I want to live in a country where there aren't Muslim inbreds

I bet you have that cracky faggy voice

The fucked up thing is that i don't even hate muslims but i felt nothing watching the video of them getting murdered. I imagined myself intervening at a few points but really i felt nothing.
A big part of me dearly wishes to see things spiral out of control.

it's not fucked up though. you didn't know anyone there and it happened a world away from you. people die in much more horrible ways every day, away from the light of the sun and the big blue sky, never to be remembered or honored or mourned or anything else. 49 dead by extremist zeal is nothing.

I don't know, i felt something watching other videos of executions.

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The Demon-haunted World by Carl Sagan if you dont mind listening to Sagan stroke the dick of the entire scientific community for a while.

pussy

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People overdosed on information, we’re seeing mass hysteria, tribal barriers being shored up, people digging their heels in because there’s so much misinformation, bullshit, subjective experiences, different ideas constantly coming from every direction. Suicide rates ballooning out of control in every population that has any informed view of the future.

Propaganda - Ellul

Describes the mechanisms of diffusion and the social significance of information and presentation.

Byung Chul Han - Burnout Society, Topology of Violence, Agony of Eros
he did one about time but I forget the name. Scent of Time or something.

>Not the Mongolian
>Not the Persian
>Not the Aztec
>Not the Sumerian
>Not the Arab

no contest compared to eur*peans. Untold billions killed by just anglos alone.

the ultimate shill

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>4 days 17 hours

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your rabid individualism isn't organic, it's a recent, despicable invention designed to allow market competition to penetrate the most atomic levels of human society. you have had your soul eaten by capital and the state. repent, and you might still have a chance.

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If you want purely aesthetic shit, read Fanged Noumena by Nick Land
But if you want actual insight, anything on complexity theory. Industrial era institutions can't keep up with the dynamism of the information age.

motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/wnxbm5/society-is-too-complicated-to-have-a-president-complex-mathematics-suggest

fear and loathing in LV

>We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave... So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high water mark — that place where the wave finally broke, and rolled back.”

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go fuck yourself.

Is this post satire?! wealth inequality is reaching levels not witnessed ever before and workers are losing rights every year. you probably live in a suburban bubble. and dont forget to go fuck yourself.

technology and the alienation of small communities has led us to become like lost animals in an unfamiliar herd

Why should it matter to you? You probably live thousands miles away. You don't know any of those people. I doubt you really got upset when 86 people were mowed down with a truck in Nice. Why should should you care about these 49? Because they're brown?

Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative by Mark Fischer
cultural-discourse.com/on-hypermodernity/

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>Islam is pretty peaceful religion

This is absolutely untrue.
And I am not stating this merely on the actions of its followers and leaders, but the Quran itself and the history of Islam.

Sure, and people have a right to secure their homes and establish a sense of order and community (a concept itself which is deeply rooted in identity).

I gotten burned by buying and reading Han's books since they all of them mostly say the same shit. Is it worth reading Topology of Violence and Scent of Time if I've already read Psychopolitics, In the Swarm, Transparency Society, and Burnout Society?

Happy two weeks since the 66th anniversary of Stalin's death