Yukio Mishima

Any one that says "dumb niggers" is from Instagram. Besides I am aware of how lofty and often idiotic sociology is, though the typing's can still grasp a general character of the individual, still Jung's original workings were better.

>Jung
OH NO NO NO NO

At least Japanese people had the good sense to make him a cute girl when they put him in their video games.

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>anime
Ew

Not an anime, you stupid nerd.

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anyway anime aesthetic, fag

please please gtfo weeb

Anyone that reads Mishima is a weeb.

no retard. That's not how it works

Pewdiepie's favourite author is Mishima.
Pewdiepie is a massive weeb that eats up anything Japanese while denouncing the same shit from other sources as bad. Such the religiosity and nationalism of Japanese.
Therefore, anyone that reads Mishima is a weeb.

Alright autist.

He was like the opposite of a warrior. Avoiding death so much that he killed himself just so he can be in control of it.

Logical phallus. Your siligism is incorrect.

What if being a weeb just means you like Japanese culture. Is not liking a Japanese writer appreciation for Japanese culture?

Kek no I wouldn't say that was avoiding death. He literally did sepaku and had a militia. Was obsessed with hardness and physical ability as much as poetry and culture.

What other reply said
Also he faked illness to avoid fighting in the war and the regret/guilt made its way into his thought and work
Still a great writer

I mean more of he was scared of it. His worst nightmare was getting old and dying of something like cancer

Didn't Kenzabuo Oe write a dystopian novel where Mishima takes over the country?

Fuck off weeb

which one?

Just like a true warrior.

He just got off to them. He wasn't one himself

How do we know he faked illness?

>source: dude believe me

>reliable

that he isn't choking me with those arms

He wrote about it in Confessions of a Mask

Link or quote?

>no fuck was given at all

>just believe me bro

>Instagram
>sociology
>Jung

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around 12 minutes in someone says he faked it. Not sure where this is coming from.
youtube.com/watch?v=okkccaekiHQ

Wikipedia says he was misdiagnosed.

Confessions of a Mask wasn't purely biographical.

Well isn't that an incredibly intelligent, it only took a few hours to come up with that argument.

anti-based, bluepilled, and cringe

>t. jealous INTP

Thanks user. Although that doesn't show he faked it, but it does show he felt ashamed of an inner cowardice.

The fuck you have against sociology

>sociology
>"""science""""

He went from virgin to chad. The most powerful kind of men

So you're clueless about science. Maybe reading a book or two could help you.

his sea of fertility series were one book, it would be one of my favorite books of all time. i can talk about the politics here but it would require a wall of text. his views on conservatism and beauty are really what make these books.

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Mishima was a pretentious hack

>said the faggot that doesn't know what "hack" means in this context

I think its from the fact that he wrote a book about the life of a gay guy. He married a woman though and because he was a manlet he asked for her to be shorter than him.

>and because he was a manlet he asked for her to be shorter than him.
[citations needed]

He was depressed about his self-perceived lack of masculinity, including his height and taking sickness to avoid the draft, and was incredibly sensitive about it to the point of coming unglued over the smallest comment from someone that he could twist into thinking was an insult about him. His homosexuality was probably only in his head but was probably exacerbated by his fear that He was so unmasculine that he would naturally be gay.

He had a really high value of aesthetics, so high that he was an obsessive romantic and idealised the classical eras of Japan (he idealised Japan the way that some moderns idealise Sparta). Suicide became an obsessive A E S T H E T I C goal. A meaningful suicide, however, was required so he essentially invented a political persona (he was basically apolitical most of his life and didn't give a call about the Tenno until later) to justify a death that could be both "meaningful" and be in the middle of pseudo-combat.

If you want to get Freudian, Azusa and Natsuko fucked him up by essentially depressing and traumatizing him at the same time.

Not that poster but both the Nathan and Scott-Stokes biographies mention this. He also required that she not have read any of his books.

t. PewDiePie fanboy

just because he was prolific doesn't mean he wasn't a hack, you illiterate fuck.

oh, this comment again

oh this stan again

i seriously fucking hate the ubiquity = quality and ubiquity = truth mindset that this entire fucking site seems to be plagued with. it's retarded poison and kinda defeats the purpose of an anonymous message board.

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no he wasn't lol what do you think about that i win

No, what you hate is the truth.

epic

I didn't even knew he posted a video on him fag

>the truth
Ok retard

A pivotal moment in Mishima's life was when he feigned tuberculosis to not be drafted for WW2. Some are of the opinion that this largely shaped his later obsession with dying a warrior's death in a postwar world.

youtube.com/watch?v=nq-M5n529ls

He wrote several books about homosexuality. Forbidden colors is one of my favourite books not even ashamed

>turbomanlet
>weeabo
>homo
>LARPer
Why should I care about his work?

>psychological "typing" of people born before this horoscope tier pseudoscience bullshit was even concocted
>valid even REMOTELY

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He wasn't swole enough and he was too gay.
I hate that this fruity chink faggot is among my favorite authors now. I've read Sailor and Golden Temple. I love the way he's able to present the story from the profound perspective of someone that society would simply label mad. It shows the absurdity and prejudice of modern moral values.

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>grew up weak and lonely under his grandmother, who kept him away from the other kids
>dad trains him to be a man
>already too late, the effect his grandmother had on him already made him effeminate in some ways
>became famous as a writer at only 24
>die hard bodybuilder and nationalist
>confused about himself for his whole life and took his own life
is there a sadder postwar japanese author?
do you think he knew his fate and tried to change it or do you think he just said fuck it and embraced it? can it be changed?

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Bump

Literally everything about this man, even his Stans decades later, reeks of insecurity.
Is this peak fragile masculinity?

Well seems possible I suppose but not necessarily.

Hey I m a ENI--P

That Cuck, Hirohito

the face of /fitlit/

I like this.

bodybuilders look like THAT..?
weak show, all around

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Well user, he started with a body this weak...

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To end like this

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Keep in mind that he was a Japanese man, they often have much higher Oestrogen levels as well are naturally less muscular. So to get as muscly as Mishima did it is quite an achievement. Also it's a shame some guys have uneven abs.

Butters does squats I'll bet... :3

imagine being a male and believing in the briggs myer test

When Yukio Mishima said he was trying to make his body resemble the steel, this is what he meant.

I'm actually a female user. Kawaaaaaaai

Pleb spotted.

man do I have a book you'll hate

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CRINGE

female cringe, too

thucydides never said this

Beautiful book. Changed my life.

Alright incel

Where should I start with Mishima's writings?

Are you her internet defener?

I am her, fucking virgin.

He was obviously bisexual. Classically samurai bisexual. One of his lovers leaked love letters. You can look that up online. Also all those shirtless pictures of him there are were him posing for gay photobooks.

hahaha you're pissed.

No, sorry, not a virgin. Please note though, that kind of mentality actually brings everyone down. I think it's kind of adorable you get all pissed off when someone says cringe. But I never saw any seasoned veterans act like that. I never saw butterfly act like that. I never saw her call anyone an incel or a virgin either. Must be because she is a cool person. Like a really cool person.

My cool person. :3

>He was obviously bisexual. Classically samurai bisexual.

Bitch WTF. What did you mean by "Classically samurai bisexual. I do not think there is really enough evidence to call him definitely bisexual but it is possible. Like Leonardo Da Vinci we can only have fain theories.

>One of his lovers leaked love letters. You can look that up online. Also all those shirtless pictures of him there are were him posing for gay photobooks.

They were not gay photo-books but generally in celebration of the human form. Could you supply evidence for his lover leaking the love letters though.

>hahaha you're pissed.
>No, sorry, not a virgin. Please note though, that kind of mentality actually brings everyone down. I think it's kind of adorable you get all pissed off when someone says cringe. But I never saw any seasoned veterans act like that. I never saw butterfly act like that. I never saw her call anyone an incel or a virgin either. Must be because she is a cool person. Like a really cool person.
>My cool person. :3

Huh well aren't you a faggot, no one here was a female you complete autist. The virgin and incel calling was simply female representation. Just another orbiter it seem, "buttfloy pls huv sex wit me".

Butterfly is just normal, not any personal grudge against her or the guy dressed up called Butterfly.

>Must be because she is a cool person. Like a really cool person.

>My cool person. :3

Fuck man this is cringe. Did you lose your virginity to one of those fat awkward girls?

Ahhhh now it makes sense. You are the bitter incel. Lol.

And no retort saying you aren't an incel? Looks like we know why you call others incels.

Well you see I am a Chad, the thing is I did not find this website because I was an incel or unpopular and so found somewhere to belong but found it just simply because I was raised a National Socialist so it was not to any detriment of popularity. I just find it funny that you seem to think I originated this attack.

It was 8 minutes ago and I have already expressed that the reasoning for using words such as incel and virgin were simply to represent the female character. If you had half a brain you would realise such a thing which one simply has to read my statement on, it isn't by any means a theory of deduction to currently damaging words.

>Chad
>national socialist
Lets see, you already lied about being a woman. I'd wager one of these things is a lie as well.

>they were not gay photobooks
Lol. They were made with the specific purpose of being homoerotic. One of them was literally called Ordeal by Roses (Barakei). Bara (rose) is a euphemism for homosexuality in Japanese. The photographer was also openly gay.
>theories
You have to be some sort of a brainlet or delusionist. Mishima was obviously interested in men. I said "samurai bisexuality" because that is exactly what it looked like to me. Marriage but relations with men on the other side. If you didn't know, homosexual acts between samurai were quite common. And it's no secret that Mishima was obviously heavily obsessed with samurai culture. And of course there's his numerous gay-themed books including his semi-autobiographical "Confessions of a Mask" but that's not really important.
>love letters
japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2008/12/29/commentary/suppressing-more-than-free-speech/#.XIzSMkkicw
Jiro Fukushima, Mishima's lover, published a book named "Dead Author's Letters" in which he revealed love letters between him and Mishima and discussed their relationship in general. Mishima's family sued Fukushima for not respecting Mishima's privacy and the book was forced to stop being sold after only a couple months.

There's no theorizing here. Here's your last (you). You could stay delusional if you'd like.

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It was simply to see the result. Some men enjoy pushing buttons for the sake of it to see a reaction. To see a plan followed through as entertainment. You see people are different and do not have the same perceptions and interactions with the world. For you see the best way to shit post is the best way to lie. To mix truth with falsity and an extreme falsity at that. This was my sociological shit post, with the MBTI if you are unaware. For this was my point with the shit post, that all these Men, Jesus, Hitler, Mishima share this similarity and similarity's. And those other Men, Socrates, Alaxender the Great, Machiavelli, Leonardo Da Vinci share similarity and similarity's. They are named INFJ and ENTP in Myers Briggs but it only partially covers the truth and so is mixed in with to much incorrect and anecdotal theory.

But it does capture that small part of them.

Also I am both Chad and National Socialist, I was born extremely lucky to win both the genetic and ideological lottery from birth onward.

>Lol. They were made with the specific purpose of being homoerotic. One of them was literally called Ordeal by Roses (Barakei). Bara (rose) is a euphemism for homosexuality in Japanese. The photographer was also openly gay.

I find them to be quite beautiful or at least the one you have posted to be honest. Although it does sound fairly obvious that he was bisexual I still need the sources.

>You have to be some sort of a brainlet or delusionist. Mishima was obviously interested in men. I said "samurai bisexuality" because that is exactly what it looked like to me. Marriage but relations with men on the other side. If you didn't know, homosexual acts between samurai were quite common. And it's no secret that Mishima was obviously heavily obsessed with samurai culture. And of course there's his numerous gay-themed books including his semi-autobiographical "Confessions of a Mask" but that's not really important.

I have never heard of homosexuality within the Samurai, please show me sources and or quotes from his confessions of a Mask which I have not read yet.

>Jiro Fukushima, Mishima's lover, published a book named "Dead Author's Letters"

Any pdf or link? Can I purchase one?

>There's no theorizing here. Here's your last (you). You could stay delusional if you'd like.

Someones a little angsty.

His problem was greatness (and gayness, of course)

lol nigga was 5'2 and you're asking what his problem was?

Actually 5'3. Which is not very short considering his Japanese ethnicity. I do not believe his height was a struggle for him. The average height in Japan now is 5,7 and we know that globally height averages have somewhat increased since the turn of the century.

Average height of Japanese males aged 17, around the time Mishima was that age.

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There you go.

>It was simply to see the result
>...a-a-also I AM CHAD AND NAT SOC

Moral decadence. The problem is that he really doesn't proposes some solution or something constructive. Killing himself was a stupid thing and had no effect that he expected it would had in Japan. He kinda tried to be a new Socrates but pathetically failed.

ahahahahahahahaha aren't you a retard, considering you pull people up on how long they took to reply I will do the same.

Haha sounds like someone insecure and can barely formulate an argument because that short bit of writing took you an hour and forty minutes.

Now onto the subject matter.

>ehhhh you can't do something to see what happens for pure entertainment
>and still be a chad
>ehhh don't you know the duality of being a socially/biologically fit human being and doing something random for entertainment cause you can't be both eeeeeehhh

Well this sure sounds like a pathetic man trying to grasp onto anything he can to elevate yourself to my worth, or you'r just bad at arguing.

Honestly my dude. With the brevity of my posts and the absolute verbosity of this unit I propose I win this exchange.

Good day sir.

>Moral decadence. The problem is that he really doesn't proposes some solution or something constructive. Killing himself was a stupid thing and had no effect that he expected it would had in Japan.

What do you mean it became global news and put him on the map in places all over the West, he was famous. Especially within Japan he awoke many to their roots again and his following grew exponentially. He most definitely had a great effect by his sacrifice, not to say it was necessary but he would of simply ended up as swindling away, although still probably respected him sacrificing himself showed power and will, it showed the flame to of dyed burning at its greatest and all the tree's within the forest rather than slowly dwindle away as a parasite consistently nothing more than simply a small burn that will be forgotten.

>Honestly my dude. With the brevity of my posts and the absolute verbosity of this unit I propose I win this exchange.
>Good day sir.

Huh that was pretty funny user, and I say Good day sir. As well.

Briggs Meyer is just a horoscope for university graduates.

How the FUCK did they take Singapore from the Chad British?

It was a shit post user, read further down.

because the Brits were virgins and the Japs midget Chads.

anyone here read forbidden colors

i'm 90% of the way through it and i just lost interest for whatever reason and haven't finished it. don't know why, i definitely enjoyed the characters and themes up until what's-his-face regained some sense of morality.

Shorter soldiers live longer

You shouldn't. Go back to /pol/ and throw more buzzwords around

is there a sadder post? the answer is no

He isn't that muscular, he just has low body fat. MC Ride doesn't work out yet look at him

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>British leadership assuming the massing of Japanese troops, the ultra heavy artillery bombardments and first landings were a giant feint
>having significantly more experience then the Commonwealth troops
>a huge emphasis on maintaining their momentum
>being smaller & harder to shoot
When not facing militiamen with 8 days of training the Japs found fighting a bit harder than slaughtering Chinese civilians

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Pic is not a very muscular man, and yes having ow body fat helped but he was still quite muscly for an East Asian.

I want to become the British equivalent of Mishima but I think that would involve walking around in a red coat. British masculinity is dead

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This is the only quote I like from Marx and it seems appropiate for you

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he had a severe peter pan complex.

>archetypal warrior poet
dude...no. unless you're confused and meant peter pan crossed with don quixote.

He wasn't going for the Mr. Universe look. He was just taking care of his body

compare the pics the nigger poster is right

did he really read all of those books

and did he know smoking is bad for your health

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considering he wrote a lot of novels and plays in 33 years (considering he started to write being 12 years old). Probably. Most of his books were written in less of a year

reading sailor...sea at the moment. surprised how good it is.

The piece Nabokov wrote on his death had me laughing out loud.

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Most of those are probably reference books.

you're making the myers briggs test look bad.

why this nigga need a reference book

he need to refer to how to write or somethin haha

The quote comes from Hegel and he took it from the Greeks

[citations required]

Got a link/reference?

Sounds gay af

Anyone who likes Mishima today is a /pol/ack desperately trying to repress their sexuality and/or gender. Prove me wrong.

No idiot, you have to prove your point first

The actual quote which mentions he took it from Hegel.

And that's a Natty athlete body.

No, it doesn't look the guy in the "gym supplement". We all know the /fit/ market is dominated by steroids and other drugs to enhance performance.
Fuck, even sports are dominated by them.

But, without hesitation, it's a body of someone who appears to be ready for a athletical activity, with full use of the body

It's something still admirable on the this age of #fatpride.

So yes, not much, but still miring those

He himself said it: "I want to make of my life a poem, a barbaric poem"

He hasn't enough memes

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Is it MIshima or miSHIma?

Would you care to share your views on the sea of fertility? I recently read Spring Snow and though I found it beatiful, I don't understand completely what is Mishima trying to convey. For me, the moments of greatest signification in the novel are those where Mishima puts the characters in the middle of a pathetic, infinite and ever-changing world. For example, when Kiyoaki, Honda and the two Siam's princes are on the shore and Mishima then compares the flow of history with the waves dying in the beach, or when Kiyoaki is in his room watching some beetle resting in the window. Beauty appears as the dissolution in this eternal flow.

MISHIMA

Either one

Can you post the fucking piece already?

A related article
japantimes.co.jp/culture/2015/11/21/general/yukio-mishimas-enduring-unexpected-influence/

>Mishima, Hitler, Jesus
Quite the list you got there buddy

Which is your favorite of the tetralogy?

It’s debatable if he’s gay, maybe just homoerotic. He also has plenty of books concerning heterosexual love as well. It seems more an obsession with and sexual manifestation of his desire for a beautiful death. A lot of the homoerotic imagery in his literature features the narrator (assumed to be him) identifying with the suffering and death of the object of their sexual desire and gaining that sexual gratification in the imagery of themselves in that position. It just so happens that Mishima is a man, so he fixates on himself (a man) as that object of sexual-masochistic desire.

If that all makes sense.

Myers Briggs is glorified horology, and nothing makes me cringe more than people talking about how the various star signs of personalities interact, as if they can actually tell who's what and that relationships are that easy to predict.

Replace that with Murakami and I'd agree. MIshima is pretty unknown in the West and his stuff has more in common with Oscar Wilde than weeb shit.

plebeian.

>Quite the list you got there buddy

Check em, trips. And yes I know don't forget the ENTP's as well.

Yea that actually genuinely makes sense man, for one who has not read much of Mishima this helps. His struggle to reach that ideal. Possibly spawning from an inner shame of cowardice.

>Myers Briggs is glorified horology, and nothing makes me cringe more than people talking about how the various star signs of personalities interact, as if they can actually tell who's what and that relationships are that easy to predict.

I agree sociology is for the most part autistic but as I have said it is falsity mixed with truth. MBTI (although more so Jung's original) do have the ability to gab an essential character about the individual. Although judging people we don't know too much about is most likely going to be incorrect.

>implying this isn't every novel writer ever

Relationship compatibility at its core generally comes down to shared values. Myers briggs just converts and simplifies this shared personality trait, for example the op said ENTP and INFJ are highly compatible, this could be because they both have an Intuition function as 1st, and both share Extraverted Feeling. Both partners sharing Fi or Fe will usually get along well and understand eachother.

Fe looks for the external societal value of morals when they make value judgements. Fi looks for their own individual emotional experience before making that judgement

for example, you might notice Fe users "fake" emotions if you are a Fi user, while an Fe user will not as deeply sympathize with an Fi user, but would first react to what is socially appropriate.

Ne and Ni functions are inverse too. Ni users will find Ne users scatterbrained but interesting, while Ne users will find Ni users unrealistic or dreamlike.

Again not OP btw but feelsgood to see another Myers-Bro

stop posting

keep reading autist.

Complete horseshit past the first sentence. Replace ENTP and INFJ with Libra and Gemini and that wouldn't be out of place at the back of a newspaper. Myers Briggs is not accepted anywhere outside the business community, and that community is well known for their weirdness and use of bad pop psychology.

If you are genuinely interested in this look into OCEAN. It is accepted in psychology and has a lot less problems, but unlike Myers Briggs you don't come out of it with a 4 letter identity, rather your place on various scales of openness etc.

Yeah Jung is cool, from the little I know of his work.

>lift for years
>>turbo manlet so should see massive gains
>still end up looking like somebody that does pull ups every once in a while and nothing more
How low was this dude's testosterone level?

read

Mishima was in way better shape than this guy

its just an example of a low body fat body