Is beauty a disvantage?

Because jealousy and envy are explicitly opposed to the teachings.

Yet in sacrificing for a nobler cause, you created Western culture (pre 2000)

These views aren't really mutually exclusive.

Plato is speaking of a more idealized or "absolute" form of beauty. The lover of which he speaks is also a virtuous man.

Those women hate and envy the woman in your picture because they're immoral. Plato implies, and I would agree, that hating something *because it's beautiful* (which is what those women are doing) is not merely immoral but extremely so, and I'd go further and say that this particular flavor of depraved immorality is generally more characteristic of women.

Well said. OP is creating a false dichotomy

they are opposed to the explicit teachings, but they are characteristic of the implicit psychology of christians

plato was a greek, peterson's a goddamn canadian. you think canadians are nice people? they're not. they're stupid pieces of shit
even women hate being beautiful now, they want to be more like men - ugly, vulgar, coarse, etc

>they're stupid pieces of shit
this is so true
t. canadian

I can give you my perspective, even if you probably won't believe me and I don't know why I bother posting sometimes. Other women are very cruel to pretty girls (I'm slightly bisexual, so that doesn't apply to me. Bisexuals and lesbians are a notable exception to this.) That sounds minor, but it's not. You should remember they're dealing with other women their whole life, not just in schoolyard catfights. I've had female coworkers be total cunts to me and start drama and quarrels to the point I had to quit (or was fired) for the antics, or HR be so petty and wrathful that I get screwed out of a potential job. A beautiful woman can't just show up, work, and go home. Other people will always turn their attention to her, and often that attention turns venomous and destructive, especially when you're trying to just keep your head down and collect a paycheck. Beautiful women are often rather lonely and isolated from having any sort of friend group and are ostracised by their peers. This does sometimes extend to family members as well. There's a chinese saying that "Fortune and beauty rarely go together."
1/?

It's lonely at the top.

As for relations with males, it's equally fucked. If an average or ugly girl played sports, she would be accepted or rejected based on her ability in that sport. If the woman is attractive that's out the window, the entire focus becomes on her attractiveness. She'll draw attention however unwanted, and any relationship with any male instantly becomes not about some objective quality or commonality but overtly sexual. Even with older men who aren't going to press anything physical, let's say a professor. Your professor will take a liking to you no matter what, above and beyond any other classmate, but at a cost of sustaining his passive sexual interest in you. You can't be judged as an academic or an athlete or by any other measure you want to test or profess--all relations will be preceded by sexual interest, eclipsing any other aspect.
I don't think I need to say what happens when you're swimming in guys and you have to turn down all or all but one of them. Men become vicious and wounded. Otherwise, you have to swallow that whenever your boss talks to you he's thinking of you as a poster child for the organization's image and not a contributing worker no matter you performance. To put it nicely.

I knew a girl who I think many people would consider a 10/10. She was my one-itis for awhile, but I gradually grew to feel an incredible amount of alienation towards her when I realized how radically different our life experiences were. She would be messaged by (no joke) 20+ dudes a day, always received 500+ likes on her Instagram photos plus dozens of comments, and would often joke about the desperate things boys would do to get her attention. I always wondered how she felt about being valued strictly for her sexual value. Her thoughts never entered into remotely abstract or critical territory when we spoke. It's hard to feel sorry for her, but when I eventually started to distance myself from her, she texted me that she never felt so alone in her whole life. I doubt she actually meant it. I hope she's doing well

In short it's like wherever you go there's a limelight being shined on you. All your actions and words are judged severely. If another person brings forth a work to be shown, it's almost a background note. If a beautiful woman premiers something it's put on a dissection table and every tabloid is pressing their spokemen in on her for comments. If a person were constantly subjected to that they would begin to shy away from the world, it's extremely damaging to the ego to never have a moment of rest. If someone else got rice on their face it would be a funny moment. If a beautiful woman got rice stuck on her face the world would stop and a thousand cameras would come out. Everything is judged in a more critical lense, there are vile emotions stinging through the air and a pack of hyenas seeking to bring her down for any fault they could find. There's a constant pressure for absolute perfection. It's nervewracking and unrelenting.
Isolation, withdrawal, betrayal, persecution, and knife's edge standards will follow a beautiful woman eternally.

>Isolation, withdrawal, betrayal, persecution, and knife's edge standards will follow a beautiful woman eternally.
Yet, all they have to do is be beautiful and they're completely set for life. Sorry, but I just can't muster the sympathy

After that you can add in the worries that no matter what your partner might say, a worry will eat at the back of your mind that they don't care about you for anything but your physical beauty. If I age, will he leave me? If I become injured or ugly, will he stop loving me? You come to an inability to trust a lover. If you're convinced he only sticks around for your looks, you may even come to despise him and think him shallow and pathetic, self debasing, and empty of higher aspirations. This can, in some aspects, be extended to even mere friendships. The world would lose its charm quickly.

>they're completely set for life
In what way? If you read my post instead of being an /r9k/ washover, I already went over sabotaged employment. No one hands someone a paycheck for being pretty without first getting something out of them. Usually sex.
>lol just make a premium snapchat bro
Selling your body is unpleasant. Needing to show your tits just to make a living is utter humiliation.
Any time a man shows a pretty woman any kindness, you can expect he only seeks a sexual favor. It's dehumanizing to be treated with such lack of empathy. Even a stray cat can receive kindness without being expected to give anything in return.

Morality is such a dangerous concept. You're right, but because you label that behavior as immoral, simpletons won't realize the necessity of immorality as well as that behavior in the world.

Or just find a well off guy who is into attractive women...

>lol just sell yourself bro
I want to marry a guy I love, not pick some rich fuck because I have no option for survival but to live at his generosity. You may as well be a servant at that point, because arrangements like that will always come with stipulations.
I'm not responding to other /r9k/ level posts. I'm on Yea Forums, please post like we are.

Imagine an overweight person describing the downsides of obesity to a starving child, that's what you are doing

I understand your point but aren't exaggerating the suspicion that follows beauty ?

There are plenty of beutiful women who are also competent at what they do, and if someone tries to say they got their job thanks to their look they can point out their actual achievements (provided they have the self-esteem to recognize their own achievements, that is).

Past some age you should become rather proficient at telling care and respect from self-interest sycophancy, even though of course some people will still be shrewd enough to fool you.

So while I see beauty being a lifelong burden on your trust it should in many cases still be more than bearable (which it doesn't seem to be judging from your posts).

Being overweight is unhealthy though. And starving leads to panful death, while not being attractive needn't lead to depsair (look how many people achieved a lot despite staying virgins their entire lives).

>competent at what they do,
You're overestimating the extent to which a person may demonstrate competence given the mundanity of the vast majority of people's livelihoods. How does someone become the best damned actuary, or the best damned law clerk? This isn't pokemon. For the vast majority of people, a thousand other people could perform it just as competently. There is no clearcut exceptionality to be demonstrated and there will always be a question of merit.
Also is not me.
>more than bearable
It's merely a different set of pros and cons. No one is ever 100% satisfied with their own station.

fpbp

Your examples are at odds. One sees (rightly) beauty as something that is praiseworthy. JBP sees it as a commodity, an indicator of social status, and a challenge to be overcome - this is fine for the Jungian or disciple of Campbell. But it is a low-browed psychological understanding, and not the same metaphysical beauty Plato meant.

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Fuck I've written a really long post about this and deleted it twice.

tldr I have a friend who is a very handsome man and is charismatic enough to take advantage of that, but I think he wasted a lot of time in his twenties (he's pushing 30 now) on relationships that went nowhere instead of developing himself, so there's another potential pitfall of physical beauty, you have easy access to short-term sense pleasures and romance which disincentives doing things that are boring, that require sacrifice and discipline now but will pay off in years to come

The ideal is all that a person could be, if they made the steps to become it. But rather than taking that painstaking undertaking, people more frequently lie to themselves about the quality of their being or leave the matter conveniently unconsidered.

When suddenly confronted with a manifestation of the ideal, their illusion is shattered by the contrast between them. They're blasted with full consciousness of how flawed they really are. The reaction is rage, and then an attempt to destroy it, so they can return to being unconscious of their flaws.

So in dread of this confrontation, they fear, resent, and hate it.

*ting ting* FLLOOOOORRRRRRRR

tink tink tink

ahem

fudge atheisps!

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Ugly women are like a fine wine, a putrid cheese, sweet tasting fruit fermented to delicious liquor. It takes a special kind of developed and tragic sensuality to appreciate them, as they are. The Hindoos call this sensuality tama guna, the mode of ignorance, but in doing so merely betray their resentment towards the glorious Chinese civilization, with its mastery of the rotten and tactile, which has overshadowed them for millennium.

And beautiful woman, who is young and healthy and full of life, what does she offer? A promise of sensual delights that is never equal in its realization to its conception. A certain bland yet aristocratic kindness that comes from being so desired by the world. A total lack of sensuality, that sweet and carefully cultivated fruit which is only truly realized when physical deprivation forces Eros to seek refuge in the imaginary.

The only part of a woman which can be truly beautiful, or truly and objectively hideous, is the feet and the soul. Everything else: crooked teeth, hanging putrid breats, a cancerous womb, a small ass, a haggard vagina, all of this can have its charm to the intellectual and the adventurer, to those enlightened and aristocratic few who appreciate novelty for its own sake, and have grown bored with the monotonous social conventions of beauty which serve only to stifle their sexuality.

nigguh, ugly people are ugly, and beautiful people are beautiful. its simple as that

Some immoral actions might be "necessary" for some reason or another, but hating someone because of their beauty (or more generally, because of their virtue) is not one of them.

>to those enlightened and aristocratic few who appreciate novelty for its own sake

if this is true, people addicted to weird fringe forms of porn because they're bored of the vanilla stuff are also enlightened aristocrats

I fully agree with this but I'm not sure it's fair to lump beauty in with this, this seems more specifically about goals and self actualization. You can take major steps towards making yourself more beautiful, but there's no denying a large part of beauty is genetics.

Paraphrasing Tolstoy, all beautiful people are alike. All ugly people are ugly in their own way.

There is a mathematical law to beauty, the perfection of the human form follows clear proportions and rations.

Hideousness manifests itself in a hundred different ways. One here has crooked, rotten teeth. Another, a deformed foot they drag behind them when they walk. Some are made ugly by circumstance, a fire which burns half their body into scar tissue, or an industrial accident which leaves them missing several fingers and their nose. For others, the fact of their hideousness is the very circumstance of their lives, and they live in the comfort of shadows.

For the aesthetic, who is properly disinterested in mass opinions, and understands novelty for it's own sake, the choice is evident.

True. The scientist Alhazen included beauty in one of the 21 features distinguishable to Optical sight. It helps distinguish something. Beauty is objectively defined.

This is why I hate Peterson, at least Plato & Socrates are humble in their arguments and ideas. Almost everything Peterson says is shallow subjective opinion steeped in this fierce nearly teary eyed conviction but when he's backed into a corner he throws his hands up and shrieks this false humility. It makes me ill. At the end of the day he's psychoanalyzing himself, and I do not relate to him and am shocked so many can. I think his target audience are 20 something religious folk that feel left out by the lack of religious public intellectuals.

That's true though. Particularly with Henti and erotic novels, which push the limits of the imagination to it's utmost. People who just jerk off to pee-pee in vagina (or if they're feeling especially 'naughty', in butt hole) are pedestrian.

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this, OP is a

>Jordan Peterson

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Hahahahhahaha
No. Beauty is easy mode.

Aristocratic maybe, insofar as refinement of taste may not exclude fetishism. People who don't waste their time and vital energies masturbating at all are more enlightened. Conserve your kundalini.

have you read the OP post?

beauty is clearly a disadvantage

>tfw I'm a beautiful woman IRL
Hahaha. Like I give a fuck about the opinion of the lower evolved women who feel the need to vocalize their "disgust" with my higher evolved visage and aesthetic. They will forever be envious of how I will always be able to turn the heads of their boyfriends and husbands while they blend into the crowd of undesirables like brown rocks in brown sand.

the issue is that those who are ugly get violent and criminal against they perceive beautiful or privileged.

the fear of personal safety is an issue

because plato and peterson are both wrong, life is far more complicated and intricate than that

>Putting JP and Plato in the same sentence

these fatherless zoomers are too much

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seems interesting post it

What happens when you turn 36?

The virgin Peterson vs chad Plato

I'll be a famous author with no husband and no kids, Cher-style, and I'll continue to influence other women out there and I'll be making big bucks just from having a naturally youthful face and charisma.
Maybe I'll even become a peace speaker. Who knows. My options are limitless. The sky has no boundaries. I'd shoot for Pluto but everyone loves me so much they'll push me straight into Andromeda.

tits or gtfo?

you just mad cuz Peterstein is popular

so a wine aunt that has hit the wall head on at 200km/h

Post your feet

kim kardashian is popular too and im not mad

Alcohol makes you age.
>Alcohol dehydrates your body generally, including the skin – your body's largest organ. This happens every time you drink. Drinking too much is also thought to deprive the skin of vital vitamins and nutrients. Over time, drinking heavily can have other, more permanent, detrimental effects on your skin.
Not only that, it also makes you retarded. Why would I willingly subject myself to that torture? No thanks. Just imported mineral water and tea for me.

>When she appeared in Finnish reality shows, all the girls were aggressive against her and bad mouthed her. Many did not want to be near her and refused to be roommates with her.
>reality shows
Brainlets love watching this hot garbage because of the drama. What, you mean you didn't know?
>Would you say she is disadvantaged because of her beauty?
She could be disadvantaged in having shitty character brought on by a spoiled upbringing, or perhaps suffer the incessant cat-calling of brutish men, but there is little to nothing disadvantageous about being exceptionally attractive.

I'm conflicted. You sound like a vain bitch but this post is funny, that line about Pluto is good if you didn't lift it from somewhere. I guess I'll help push you into Andromeda, especially if you have a nice ass. That one finger jammed right up the stinkhole as you exit the stratosphere, that will be me. Watch for it.

>Beauty is the primary object of love
>t. Plato
he didn't mean "good-looking" ffs lol wtf

you have to go back

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Like every other skinny woman, she looked naturally good around 20~ with minimal effort, which made her a VIP wherever she went. She consequently built her entire personality, lifestyle, sense of self, and all her relationships around that brief VIP period, even though it fades almost as quickly as they realize they're in it.

It's pure pain for her, from here on out. She will spend the next ten years trying harder and harder to convince herself she doesn't care she's not young and hot anymore, trying to show how completely okay she is with her fading body by showing it off on Instagram and Twitter. If she herself makes fun of how old she's getting, she must be cool with it! She's transcended the pain with irony! Right?

The really sad thing is that this whole process, the whole VIP-to-hag cycle, is such a routine one in our society that men are instinctively on guard against it. Any man with any prospects whatsoever can immediately detect the subtle corpse stink of a 24-30 year old woman who is past her prime. It's impossible to miss. There are a dozen subtle indicators, physical signs that it's happening, of course. But that basic physical decay is also distributed across everything they do. They start dressing and primping differently, paradoxically putting more effort into their appearance even though it's not working nearly as well anymore. Working twice as hard to achieve half the effect, then four times as hard to achieve one fourth, and so on. They invent a new style, but no matter how they experiment with it, they can never make it "cute" again. It's always somehow "mature." The best a 25 year old girl can manage is "my, you're a handsome woman." She will never again be cute. She will never again cause yearning in high-quality men who want to possess her. She has become settlement material, even for second-rate suitors.

The best way that I can describe what is happening to Mira is this. Imagine being at the produce section at the grocery store, and going to buy some of your favorite fruit. As your eyes scan across the fruit on display, you instinctively and imperceptibly skim over the wrinkled ones, the pitted and shriveled ones, the ones that a peasant in the 15th century would be happy to eat but that we have the privilege of discarding today. A firm, taut, luscious, vibrant fruit, one that anyone would have loved to eat two days ago, has been left out just a little too long, and now it's withered and forgotten. At the end of the day, an employee will come by with a cart and throw it and all the other unwanteds in the trash. Meanwhile, the discriminating customer, who might have purchased it had he seen it two days ago, passes over it without even thinking - those are the "bad ones" - and reaches for a newer one. One put out that morning, still full and firm and juicy.

Mira Gonzalez may still be edible, but no one wants her, and no one's mouth will ever water while looking at her, ever again.

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Beauty is based upon biological and therefore psychological advantages. Otherwise beauty would be a meaningless trick.

Take for example a strong and defined Jaw in a man, this is attractive to a woman because it signifies Testosterone therefore a better mate. Now also take for example somewhat plump or puffy lips in a woman these are attractive to men because it signifies higher levels of oestrogen. Of course there is a cut off with this level such as with black women in which their lips go past the attractive and healthy level.

Beauty may be a disadvantage only in so far as sociability even though, beauty is a natural ideal for all and consciously an ideal for most therefore most naturally gravitate towards the beautiful, as said before some however are not aware of the ideal of beauty and so repress/suppress it, this ideal is now unconscious and may lead to a hatred of beauty or possibly a deep envy which could result in wasted money on surgery. The point is that yes there are those who resent beauty because of jealousy but for most they are aware of the ideal and therefore wish to be with and alike the ideal.

It is Good to be a handsome man that is 6 ft 4 with blonde hair and blue eyes for it shows my good and ideal constitution. It allows me to move on to the better and more important life, instead of an obsession within social hierarchy and relationships for they come easy. That which you desire most with an unchanging desire is that which you will strive through struggle and suffering the most to reach.

Do not cope Op, but accept the world for what it is, all aspects of beauty are built upon biological superiority within a given area.

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pure prose
Books with this aesthetic other than Hou-Hou-Houllecq?

You are forgetting the effect that wear and tear has on a Woman. Or in other words over indulgence of vice, sex, drugs ect. Not to say the same effect may not happen to a man but it is less noticeable for men are judged on that rough masculine look as well as a prioritisation of his cognitive ability and character.

Peterson is a hack, so why do so many people follow him?
The answer is simple: because they are hacks who want a reason to blame someone else for their inadequacies. It's disappointing, really. We, meaning humanity, describe progression as this evolutionary trait that will free all of us from the class, race, sexual etc servitude of the past however we lack any understanding of why those things have been societally imparted on us - the concept of beauty isn't merely psychological, its biological; while beauty can be perceived in a variation of ways, true beauty - meaning that it targets the noble inside of us - is universal. We can all agree the value of paintings, music, any sort of medium to release ideas and emotions into a physical form from the ether of the mind and we can agree that wonders of the world hold a beauty that most cannot recreate. The hacks have been told, or like to tell others once they understand inequality and unfairness, that others are ugly (in other ways that physical) to adjust public opinion and make themselves more beautiful but it is the hack who denounces another beauty to shine light on their own. It is the ressentiment person who try to improve themselves through the destruction of others, and that is how it will remain until the material is, foremost, removed and the natural is accepted/enjoyed in its purest way.

Are you implying you're a hot femo*d or only that you have hot femo*d friends? Also that shit gets way less when a minimum level of competency is reached in a subject that requires sacrifice. When you're through a filter that culls 90% percent of the population your peers recognize that. Just make sure you dont become a public figure.

Who cares about actuaries and law clerks? What do they do? What role do they have in progression of human existence, in the meaning and method of living? Who gives a shit if you're the best actuary, or if anybody acknowledges it? Being an exceptional actuary goes unacknowledged because even the best actuary in the world isn't changing much. The job well done itself should be its own reward. In the larger roles in life, exceptionality is more clear cut. In the small roles, it's less relevant. Can you please try to rise above the chaff?

I think I conflated something there. I admit I'm not totally fluent with his ideas, I'm just articulating them the best I can. Let me try again.

Here's attempt number two:
An ideal thing (however difficult defining "ideal" may be or the impossibility of attaining it) is the version of that thing that can be assigned perfect positive value within its class. The Ideal is (as opposed to an ideal thing), is the thing abstracted from the set of all things that can be assigned perfect positive value. So The Ideal is the perfect meta-thing that encompasses all perfect things.

So then, beauty is the aesthetic subset of The Ideal. Strength is the integrity subset of The Ideal.

The Ideal Self (made-up term) is the human subset of The Ideal. The Ideal Self that Could Be (made-up term) is the Ideal Person as applied to the particular person that is oneself, truncated to the extent of its attainability given the full extent of self-actualization.

I think what I did was that I conflated the Ideal Person and the Ideal Self that Could Be. Peterson never claimed that self-actualization could fully bridge the gap between current self and perfect ideal. He does emphasize self-actualization a lot, so I think my mind made a weird bend there.

>TFW be the ugliest person in the world
>die
>not any more prettier or disgusting than the average men being ate by worms

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>>TFW be the ugliest person in the world
nah you aint

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Every time I see a person that's not me I think "he's more handsome than me!" Then I drown in bliss because I'm still the ugliest person in town

you uglier than mexican andy?

obviously the circumstances matter. you wouldn't necessarily want to be the most beautiful/prettiest person if a warlord is looking for a harem, or if you're in jail

He's average, so yeah

Because he's a Christ cuck he thinks the ugly must be ashamed.

No he doesn't. He often stresses the importance of beauty in architecture, for example.

if you think he is average, your whole perception of looks is off. stop watching porn and thinking that they are the standard of looks

You have good points, but essentially it all falls into the concept of being wise enough, under some circumstances, to conceal one's own gifts.
Jealousy is about everything. It can be address towards any quality: beauty, wealth, intelligence, talent, education, competence, etc.
It applies both for male and females.
A naive person buys the myth that society is inherently meritocratic, and positive traits will be automatically rewarded. This is tragically false, because human qualities are rewarded only in restricted subsets of reality; and even there there's always room for malice, and one should never really be completely off guard.
Of course, dynamics revolving around female beauty are more bold and evident, because it deals with sexual tension. But a lot of relatively simple strategies can be adopted to mitigate all the scenarios you described.
For example: avoid a workplace where you are the only attractive one. The attention will not be entirely above you. Avoid the packs of resentful ugly cunts, simply by not interacting with them. You can also at least try to not enhance your attractiveness in hostile places.
There are a lot of career paths that value attractiveness beyond modeling: having a pretty face to put in when dealing with public is desirable even by steel cold hearted corporations. That can scale up to pretty prestigious positions if coupled with competence.
And there is always the easy route of scoring a convenient marriage. That's the most obvious advantage of female beauty.
Will it all happen smoothly and automatically? No. But the same goes for every other quality.

He's average because I have seen people like him frequently, his architecture has become the norm. And I don't watch porn 4 days now, last time was 2 weeks but I failed
But you seem like you know a lot of it :^

no you don't

i've never seen a person as ugly as he

>avoid a workplace where you are the only attractive one.
this is not possible when you are extremely attractive

>extremely attractive
Being extremely attractive is impossible, even to the most exeptional natural beauties, without putting some effort in. Make up is a huge part of female beauty, clothing is important both for men and women.
Therefore, you can simply skip all this effort and avoid being the white swan among the ugly ducklings.
If you are female, you could even pretend to be islamic and wear a burka in these days. Bonus points for diversity also.
The point is, you can always conceal beauty as you can appear stupid if you are intelligent, but you can't do the opposite.

He's considered ugly? Im a monster then

You are Christian, morally speaking.

Envy is crime number one in non-heterodox theology. It is, mixed with superbia, the sin of Satan.
Envying God is the primary aspect of most anti-christian sentiments.
You can read Envy by Schloek (by far best book on the subject) , describing the difference between the diffuse notions of nemesis and envy of the gods among the ancients and several primitive people. Even ancient Israel is perturbed that yaweh was not envious.

i refuse to believe there are cretins so unfathomably disgusting that they confidently rate themselves lower than that atrocity to mankind.

Jesus.

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>Juden Peterstein
stopped reading right there

You need to be at least 18 to post here

She suffers because Christianity exists to destroy the exceptional.

Yeah I bet Michelangelo was real pissed at Christianity for financing his work

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Garbage Thread = Hidden

It's awesome that Americans are so threatened by us.

How you know she suffers? She looks fine to me.

Indomitable pain accompanies the sacrilege of beauty. Woe to she who must endure her smile.

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>implying every single user wouldn't kill every single member of his/her family to be respawned into a cute girl
life in sandbox mode motherfuckers

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>Christianity exists to destroy the exceptional.

This is what fedora tippers actually believe

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Nice digits.
Depends on what you mean by disadvantaged. Because of a lack of standards in the western world due to egalitarianism the beauty in everything isn't appreciated as much as it used to. A beautiful girl or masculine who isn't going to have children is pointless no matter how much you appreciate the aesthetics. But who would have kids in the direction this country is going? I'm not anti natalist nor am I pro natalist, but I understand the point of view from the former especially in today's age. You see beautiful people being envied and scorned usually by the outcasts of society because of innate human nature. But because of lack of roles, what's a beautiful girl to do? Be a model, a porn star, a cool wine aunt. But at one point she would more likely be a mother with a lot healthy children and even those plain janes and poindexters would find each other and have kids so they wouldn't have much vitriol like radical feminists and mgtow incels do online.

Have economic stability, bring back an agrarian society and small businesses, have a strict immigration policy that doesn't require a wall so undesirables won't flood the country. There and after we can get to a healthier society.

What's the androgynous muppet got to do with it?

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niggah cuz other woman attack her

Who is she? Never heard of her.

>Things I don't observe don't happen
Is this what happens when an atheist reads Berkeley?

>He actually believes Christian slave morality isn't subjugating him.

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lol

grass is always green on the otherside, even if it aint

>fedora believes some THOT by sheer existence becomes exceptional
even incels know better

u w0t m8

you are more likely to get molested. thats a disadvantage

Good thing I live in America and I can easily get a gun to shoot the bollocks off any PoS molester I find.

cant do that where i live. you are lucky

That girl's ugly as hell.

what the fuck is the red circle

zits

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For Beauty stands
In the admiration only of weak minds
Led captive; cease to admire, and all her plumes
Fall flat, and shrink into a trivial toy
At every sudden slighting quite abashed

t. Satan from Paradise Lost

yes and no. girls can be bitchy about it yes. but being pretty makes people overall nicer towards you. its easier to find a job/mate/do better in school. this has been proven in various studies.

being beautiful is an indicator of resitent genes, thats why we as a species are being generally nice towards beautiful people. except when were envious, in which case this backfires.

also stop reading philosophers who lived in the stone age or retard conservatives who cant accept the fact that more than 2 genders exist and who promot a meat diet only. peterson is a complete moron. read studies, only studies. check who financed the studies.

>who cant accept the fact that more than 2 genders exist
this is not true