If Westerners fetishize "authenticity", why aren't they traditionalists...

If Westerners fetishize "authenticity", why aren't they traditionalists? Would pre-capital culture and forms of identity represent a readily accessible store of authenticity to draw from?

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Wouldn't*

Larping isn't authentic.

traditionalism is the logical conclusion of postmodernism
they just haven't reached that conclusion yet, but its inevitable

What distinguishes authentic cultural expression / identification from LARPing?

what could be more authentic than someone else's culture, conserved from transformation by crossing into psychocultural status through the fortune of surviving the Darwinian crapshoot into historical seniority

intent

What do you mean?

what does the person want to do or achieve through this? for example, are they doing it to fill an emptiness in their lives, and are using it just to make themselves feel better about themselves; or are they doing it because it is good for society and is conducive to betterment for everyone?

LARPing is self-absorbed, it focusses on the individual and their personal feelings, and uses traditionalism merely as a tool. Authentic expression appreciates the traditions for their own sake, and requires not to directly make or change the person's mood any better. It is not used as a tool for personal therapy.

because it's fuckin reactionary
>represent a readily accessible store of authenticity to draw from
it's been sublimated by capital into commodities. thinking you can somehow "reach" or "return" to pre-capitalist relations is the heart of reactionary thinking. Ironically enough, many of the things trads want to "return" to is just pre-social rights capitalism, not realizing that the underlying system they want to keep, i.e. capitalism, by nature undermines any resemblance of traditional order.

So all traditional culture is permanently and irrevocably inauthentic due to its commodification under capitalism?

Because people understand "authenticity" as obeying whatever urges and impulses you experience in the moment, which is basically the opposite of tradition.

So identification with a given culture is only valid or authentic if it's identified with in order to serve some collective, rather than for personal satisfaction? Even if this is true, why can't traditionalism have this intent behind it?

That is essentially true yes. The entire idea of choosing a traditional cultural expression is inauthentic and based on consumerist notions. You are not born into traditional culture. Authenticity means acting without denying the freedom of your choices. Lets say you like to LARP as a traditionalists but also frequent an anime and porn website, that is fine, but it is inauthentic unless you recognize the inherent incongruity of those choices.

Sounds like a great way to sell people a bunch of dumb shit they don't need and reduce their self-definition to a bunch of purchased commodities

Yeah so be sure to buy some Evola books

You say it like most people even have a faint understanding of what pre-capital culture was even like.

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Because western culture has been thoroughly infected with the notion of bourgeois individualism such that identifying with the cultural tradition you are born into is also “inauthentic” because it doesn’t come from some mysterious ‘true self’ but rather is seen as being imposed from without by ‘society’. Sure it’s not merely a product created to exchange for money, but it’s not ‘your choice’.

>autheticity
nice spook. postmodernists are as spooked as traditionalists but at least traditionalists know they are spooking unlike postmodernist that think they have "authentic" desires,

revivalism isn't authentic
also not literature

The question was why don't they already do it, not why orthodox Marxists are asshurt by it.

Orthodox Marxism= just being asshurt at everything and offering no solutions. All politics is Identity politics, only autists who can't understand the tribal nature of Man would fall for the materialism meme.