What are some good books on semen retention. Is it scientifically valid? Is it bullshit?

What's the point?
Also good luck fucking with your gfs head if you refuse to cum when you fuck her.

First 90 times I had sex I didn't cum. Have you looked into circumcision?

The point is semen retention.

I'm uncut and i'm desentisized not only to sex but life. My penis is lifeless. Also, aren't most of US males circumcised? Is this a big issue there? Why do you still cut people's dicks without their consent? Americans are truly retarded.

Seem retention is a complete and utter pseudoscience

[citation needed]

Show me any proper scienticic studies that prove any benefits

Just take Flomax, one of the side effects is retrograde ejaculation and you produce less semen

nobody makes studies on that, who would fund such a study? even the romans said a man shouldn't waste his "fire" in vain.

That doesn't prove back shit buddy. Stop grasping at straws. There is no magical cure to your bitch tits

high iq alert

You oughtta ask your mother, that little lady could write a master's thesis on the subject.

Semen retention is like a placebo or maybe a fad diet for losers looking to cure themselves of misery they create. It doesn't work unless you're so pathetic that jacking off is your only amusement and abstinence from it could actually be a test of will. If you live an otherwise normal existence semen retention is of no benefit.

prove it

Do you have your life together? Would you consider yourself depressed? Do you have a job? Do you have any prospects whatsoever? Are you older than 20?

i asked you to prove that semen retention has no benefits not to interview me lmao

And I'm asking you to prove to me you're not the kind of pathetic dumbass that fads like semen retention appeal to.

so, you're basically just talking out of your ass because you can't keep your hands above your desk for 5 minutes

Was constant masturbation an issue for you before buying into this fad, user?

i only touch my penis when urinating

What happened when you used to masturbate constantly? Did you get brainfog? Lose your ability to talk to women? Couldn't read a page without getting distracted?

>he touches his penis when urinating
That breaks nofap by the way. You should pull your shorts all the way down, and use your PC muscle to clench your asshole and propel your penis forward, and then piss.

>reddit tier rationalization
Stop watching p*rn and read a book, faggot.

kek, look at you melting down and projecting your issues onto others because you can't stand the fact that someone has more discipline than you do.
that's a good idea

I guarantee I read more than you do, retard. I didn't need to stop cumming entirely to do it either. I have a nice pussy I can cum in RAW whenever I like unlike you betas looking for a way out of inceldom by making staying inside doing nothing into some kind of test of will.

cringe

whoa, easy there hot shot.

You fags just make me mad. Instead of making real steps to improve your situation you put your eggs into nonsense hoping it will help you when it doesn't do shit. It's like fat people that are convinced they can lose weight just drinking fat free milk or switching bread. It's a disinclination towards real action with all of the confidence and assurance of someone actually making progress. And when you realise nothing has changed you just switch up the routine to something else equally effortless.
Semen retention is made up of people disillusioned by NoFap because they were still the pathetic losers they were 90 days beforehand. If you're still a retard in another three months you'll just tell yourselves you haven't waited long enough for your mind to heal and continue doing nothing else. You're as frustrating to organised people as fat people are to fit people.

You aren't helping you're just throwing a tantrum because people are doing things you have decided are dumb.

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Holy shit user, turn off your computer until you stop seething before you continue embarrassing yourself in a semen retention thread of all things.

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cringe.

It's hard to fuck my 8/10 girlfriend and also practice semen retention.

You don't understand anons. Have you ever lost weight before? I lost like 30kg (from 100kg) about two years ago. I worked it off the normal way and it paid off for me. I don't give a fuck about the praise for it, but the people who could appreciate it were those who had done the same thing and worked it off. You know who couldn't understand it or appreciate it? Fat people. I did it in the wrong way or I was lucky, my metabolism was just better or whatever the fuck. Meanwhile I see them every week talk about some fad diet, some pedal board thing to put under the desk, counting calories, starving themselves, the power of water or whatever the fuck. There's a tried and true method to ridding yourself of the issue but they'd rather pretend like they're helping themselves without doing anything because it's easy and they still get the rush.
It's the same shit with nofap and semen retention. There's some problem, some insecurity of some kind, that user doesn't want but he also doesn't want to put in the effort because it looks really hard, so he'll buy into some dumb gimmick that professes to be the cure and lets him do what he wants to do without the pain of change.
I know you anons think I'm retarded (i literally am) and getting mad on the internet is a faux pas when I could just post reaction images condemning views I don't like like a passive aggressive woman but this shit is important to me, lads. I tease but I also don't want you to waste your time on horseshit.

nigger nobody cares, this isn't your blog.

>nofap
>gimmick
pick one

yet you reply to the thread hmmmm??? interesting hmm yet you read my blog post hmm???

Best post itt

this isn't your thread, you whiny neurotic.

all me

gotta go to work, lads. keep thread alive and I will reply to my uplifting post responses in like 6 hours

by that i mean i'll literally reply to my own posts btw ;-)

The minerals in your cum has to come from somewhere and when people are already zinc-deficient it may make sense to not squirt out what you do have too frequently.

Otherwise, I think practices of willpower even if for arbitrary reasons is very important to learn how to endure life.

Your first paragraph is spot on, but your second couldn't be more wrong. In this case, you're the retard on a fad diet when you convince yourself that your little porn habit is completely healthy and not leading to any adverse effects. Research the detrimental harm that high speed internet porn has on the brain, specifically the prefrontal cortex and the stress it puts on the limbic system. Masturbation is another thing, it's not as traumatic, but can lead to severe mental issues in excess.

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You sound like a girl with severe mental issues desu.

We are

voluntary and conscious chastity as a concept and practice does work, and a part of chastity necessarily entails semen retention, which is mostly just a buzzword. disregarding any kind of biological benefits that may or may not result from semen retention, the willpower benefits are immense. we live in an age where sexuality has turned into a game, and nearly everything sacred has been commodified and turned into something perverse in some fashion. it takes a great amount of effort to restructure your life and your thoughts to reduce the effect that these images hold over your brain, and even relationships. people here don't believe that semen retention works because they cannot remember a time in their lives when half their brainpower wasn't dominated by sexual thoughts, or they've bombed out their nervous system from orgasms to the point where they're a lost cause. when you can look at porn and see it for how ugly it is, or reject an attractive woman you'll know that you're getting somewhere. every great work that has been done ultimately requires some kind of sacrifice, as well as some energy to propel it forward. chastity/semen retention is not the reason for an improved being, it is merely the precondition. if you don't have the will to stay on the path, you're going to fail. the strength that you need to not fail will cause you to grow stronger, and thus translate to other things in your life. there are drug addicts, alcoholics, and womanizers who have managed to pull it off great things. but chronic masturbators? not so much.

in spite of what i've said above, i will say that the people who are overly obsessed with semen retention without making an effort of cleansing their thoughts may end up worse off than they were before. the little bits of tantra that we get here in the west aren't sufficient enough to live a moral life, and most of the men that get truly good at become morbid in my estimation. i still think it's a valid path, but it is an unsafe one.

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>you can't lose calories by eating less
>You have to do it my way, the "normal way".

Can you tell me the normal way for people to deal with porn addiction and frequent masturbation?
Your post has almost no point or conclusion, just random thoughts strung together.

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She doesn't mind when I make her tap-out from cumming too much.

Embarrassing

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>Can you tell me the normal way for people to deal with porn addiction and frequent masturbation?

It's just like AA. Make yourself feel guilty every time you do it. If you can't, turn to God. He'll make you feel guilty for being a fuck up.

Okay now that you have established the "normal way" explain why others are wrong and specify who's doing it wrong.

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I don't know. I'm not the same guy. I just like playing devil's advocate.

Search for chasteanons's posts he has studies

It's the opposite. All information online and most popular opinions say it's pointless or even bad for you so people embarking on it have negative expectations and if anything suffer from nocebo.

slave and fleshpilled

Explains the quick response with no thought put into it.

finished my shift anons time to make this all about me again

I didn't say porn is good you dumbass, I just said semen retention and nofap are retarded mind games. Porn is shit and I don't watch it and I would advocate others don't, but one of the core beliefs of NoFap is that you spend the first 90 days without ejaculating at all to anything. You can cum if you want but it's generally seen as the soft way of doing things and not legitimate.

im a boy with minor mental issues

I didn't say that , I'm obviously talking about people who do things that can be good for you yet in bizarre ways that can't be beneficial. Things like saying they're counting calories but then stopping after two days because it's tiresome, or simply not reporting all the shit they eat.

Except that semen retention and nofap are marketed as a solution to a problem the majority of people can't recognise because they're blinded by lust or whatever the fuck - it's supposed to be cool. They're not taking a leap of faith, they're buying into something underground. It's just regular placebo.

>God
stopped reading there

He's right. God is there. And although he has seen what you've done, even if you've done it 1000 times every day for the last 1000 days, he will still forgive you for it.

If you don't ask for forgiveness though, most religions say you will burn. Spiritually in this physical world, and physically in the spiritual world.

Ok, retard

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As I can tell you are

>Is it scientifically valid? Is it bullshit?
Are you female? Because I don't see why else you'd even ask this.
You feel low energy after ejaculating, because you lose some fluids that your body has to produce again.
That said, complete abstinence might mess up with your prostate. I don't know whether it's because of the non-ejaculation itself or because of the lack of use of the penis and pelvic floor muscles.
So maybe it's possible to fap and still not have issues, but more research is needed.

>So maybe it's possible to fap
*without ejaculating

>You feel low energy after ejaculating, because you lose some fluids that your body has to produce again.
The most brainlet post on Yea Forums, you fell low because of dopamine spikes, just like you feel low after a good movie.

Enjoy your dick cancer.

You literally feel increased hunger, because of the lack of nutrients.

This. I used to take opiates and not be able to cum and it definitely fucked with her head no matter how many times I told her it was the drugs

Proof? I want to call bullshit because that sounds absolutely asinine but if you've got something to back that up I'm interested.

>counting calories
>not a way to lose weight
I agree with your entire post but this part. NoFap is bullshit, I have completed the 90 day challenge and I didn't become some ubermensch with superpowers and it definitely didn't fix my confidence issues. It did teach me to have iron self discipline which carried into other aspects of life so it's not all bad.

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multiorgasmic man by mantalk chia
great book on semen retention, also demonstrates techniques for sex and masturbating

Old material; Mystical texts, from ancient Traditions like yoga and the such. Plotinus and several ancient Greeks practiced this as well.

New Material; Insufficient data so for the most part if you are looking for hard science.

Rom 8:1-11 KJV
1) There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3) For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4) That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5) For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10) And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11) But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Gal 5:16-26 KJV
16) This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17) For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18) But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19) Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20) Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21) Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23) Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24) And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25) If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
26) Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

Joh 3:3-8 KJV
3) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4) Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8) The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Act 2:38 KJV
38) Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

DIIIIIIIIICK CANCER

The loss of nutrients would be minimal.

>conquerseries.com

>doesn't know about dual cultivation

why do people say this? do you really believe you're going to develop cancer because you aren't fapping? kill yourself already

more likely you're low energy because of a rush of endorphins and a physical exertion resulting in climax. Recreating the 1-2tsp of cum loss aren't enough to physically exhaust you, and it seems ridiculous that you would feel the effects immediately.

You mostly feel the effects later on, throughout the day.
Ask any sportsman or coach if he thinks it's a good ideal to cum before a match, for example.

That's bunk. Coaches just say that so players dont go out partying and hook up with a chick.

[citation needed]

based

Wagner accused Nietzsche of jerking off a lot which means he probably could tell that he did, and Nietzsche was still a fucking genius who read and wrote more than all of Yea Forums combined while being a professor and traveling Europe.

Jerking off doesn't do anything substantial to you unless you really overdo it. Doing it once every few days does essentially nothing to your body. We have no studies proving that the effects of long term nofap aren't actually just psychological effects.

It's basically as the other user says. Nofap is a placebo used to focus attention.

So incels are re-branding themselves as semen retainers now?

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>Nofap is a placebo used to focus attention
nah, not fapping for a few weeks simply increases your testosterone levels, makes you more confident and energetic (but also horny and agressive)

on your semen there is everything needed for a proper life to start. there is protein, vitamin, energy, dopamin, serotonin etc, by fapping you're giving away your life forces. why do you think nietzsche went mad? plus porn fucks with your dopamine reward system. notice how lethargic you feel after fapping.

>why do you think nietzsche went mad?
From semen retention, apparently:
>The reabsorption of semen by the blood is the strongest nourishment and, perhaps more than any other factor, it prompts the stimulus of power, the unrest of all forces toward the overcoming of resistances, the thirst for contradiction and resistance. The feeling of power has so far mounted highest in abstinent priests and hermits (for example, amoung the Brahmans).

nah thats ur mum

>muh science
It works if you masturbate 3 times per day or more at least, the brain fog and the crushing anxiety that makes you both oversensible and despondent goes away in just 2-3 days of non-fapping, even 1 day is enough to feel light differences if you are high test and got to this point.

Do you write these from memory or do you have to look them up? I started reading the Bible 2 months ago and I have trouble remembering where everything is

Based and rawpilled

I think it's probably more healthy to just limit your masturbation. Drop it to once a day at first, the try for once every few days or something. I don't think there's a benefit, but rather possible harm, to total abstinence. Also try to do it without porn if you can, to try and get your sexual interests to return to something more normal.

I don't understand people saying it has no effect. Obviously you feel hornier and more "energetic" after a day, two days, three days.

I don't know about anxiety, productiveness, "resetting" or whatever else, but it doesn't have zero effect on a person.

>This placebo stuff is great! Everyone should do it!

Bros, why do girls become so mad when they hear about no fap and semen retention?

>over 100 replies
>not a single poster is able to point to a study that proves semen retention is effective
Everytime this thread crops up, I'll scroll through looking for something substantial, but I never find it.

Who are you quoting, retard? If you have a libido you will feel a difference between masturbating today and not masturbating.

They try to keep a good man down.

>Having such low T that masturbation wipes out your libido for the day
Christ dude, talk to your doctor or get some supplements

Which supplements?

>You feel low energy after ejaculating
Women are already redpileld on that subject, they joke about men falling asleep after sex.

I often take a nap after I fap. It sucks because the cum dries out before I wake up

I got an erection and now my balls hurt, currently two months into nofap.

wat the fuuug

blueballs dude, you're gonna fuck your prostate up by buying into this pseudoscientific garbage.

wanna help me cum?

Why are Women so inferior when they are constantly retaining their sperm?

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Based and biblepilled

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CIA

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How much are they paying you for doing this?

>00.5 goy coins

>all these anti-nofap shills
Holy shit, you've convinced me. NOFAP is actually good. I'll try this shit starting now.

>has a hyperliteral definition of the term
>calls someone else a casual

What's the longest anybody here has gone through with a nofap session? I did ~6 months once, years ago, which I consider fairly impressive since I was pretty much still in puberty.

I always feel terrible after masturbating so I stopped doing it and I feel way better and more active. My anecdote might not be enough, that I know but hopefully I can convince people to at least try. Noporn is real and everybody should do it.

that's not impressive. it means you're a low t faggot.

~800 ng/dL as of late last year. What's yours?

Incels want sex and see nothing wrong with masturbating.

There's a reason why they want you to waste your lifeforce.

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