English Poetry

Maybe OP should've clarified. I probably would've thought the same thing if it was a "Spanish poetry thread." I'm American so the difference between "American poetry" and "English poetry" seems more acute to me.

i'd put forward robert graves, blake, christina rossetti, w h davies, a chap called john skelton and of course wilm shaxpy
i don't what anyone sees in donne, or ANY victorian style stuff

all terrible. very poor effort mate.

Christina Rossetti was a Victorian poet. I didn't think I liked Victorian poetry either until I read more Tennyson and Browning. Tennyson is a metrical virtuoso and Browning is very erudite, his dramatic monologs are second only to Shakespeare in my opinion.

don't bother reading them
since their lines are pompous
and words stretch to fit the page, like
the face of a broken drum bought
in a jamacian tourist trap.

don't bother reading them
since their references are outdated
and their rhyme-schemes sound like
an infant memorizing Seuss
in a heartless borgoise daycare.

don't bother reading them
since their feelings are not yours
and you would rather write like
yourself than pen sonnets about
the nature you'll never see.

don't bother reading them
because the words of freer men
can fill your brain to the brim like
poison sitting beside leeches in
an apothecary's mortar and pestle.

don't bother reading them
because you want to write poetry
and the poets look at them like
heroes of the last millennium
while they just wanted to write poetry.

what is it about ted hughes that is not good?
can you articulate what you dont like about him and/or his work?

Hardy
Swinburne

Have you tried being less autistic?

14 posts. No Emily Brontë. Shameful.

Have you tried being less of a cunt?

the rossetti's were very different. browning was all right in his own way too. when he & christina & swinburne became vogue in 1870s they 'considerably disturbed the minds' of tennyson's most ardent readers.
he was a minor poet with a remarkable ear for music. his image began to flag soon after his death, because it had become identified with much that was unpopular in victorianism. hardy (another v good english poet) brings it up in an ancient to the ancients.

he's ABSOLUTELY DEVOID OF ANY KIND OF MERIT WHATSOEVER, isn't he? i mean he is, isn’t he?

Ted is based. If it wasn't for the unpleasantness I'm sure he'd be much more highly regarded. I think in time he will be

Shelley

You go to Shelley from there.

Idk i learned the term british rather than english (unless referring to a certain movement eg english romantic poetry) when talking about poetry by nationality. I went to an american college btw. It was english literature (from any country) and then american, british, south asian etc.

True, that's usually how "English" gets interpreted as in "English department." But I've also never seen or heard Robert Frost referred to as "English poetry."

of course this isn't effective since english poetry is very different to welsh or irish poetry

What was Robert Burns called?

W I L L I A M B L A K E

Read the other romantics, Shelley, Coleridge, Wordsworth, Blake

William "dried his tears and armed his fears" Blake.

based

Trash opinion desu

All Greece hates
the still eyes in the white face,
the lustre as of olives
where she stands,
and the white hands.

All Greece reviles
the wan face when she smiles,
hating it deeper still
when it grows wan and white,
remembering past enchantments
and past ills.

Greece sees unmoved,
God’s daughter, born of love,
the beauty of cool feet
and slenderest knees,
could love indeed the maid,
only if she were laid,
white ash amid funereal cypresses

Don't forget about my guy Spenser. Read The Shepheardes Calendar.

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you don't really think this is any good

I'm sad I'll never finish the Faerie Queene

I'm sad he never finished it

t.s. eliot IS NOT ENGLISH

He also hasn't been mentioned itt yet. Too see

ted hughes
Auden
alice oswald

fuck that. some bellend keeps spouting off about eliot being english on Yea Forums and brit/pol/. Frankly its embarrassing

don't bother reading paleontologists; their references are outdated

>no Edward Young itt
Yea Forums is trash

He was English, he renounced American citizenship and felt English.

This. He was an Anglican church member when he died.

Was Eliot idpol?

>I identify as english

Wordsworth, Coleridge, Hopkins

I'm a pleb when it comes to poetry and even I can enjoy Chaucer, the opening of Canterbury Tales is top tier comfy and I'd love to read it along with an audiobook and some notes where I wouldn't be able to work it out myself like I've provided here. I will read it some day and I genuinely mean it, but for now I've only read some of the prologue online, starting with
>Whan that Aprille with his shoures soote,
>The droghte of March hath perced to the roote,
>And bathed every veyne in swich licóur
>Of which vertú engendred is the flour;
>Whan Zephirus eek with his swete breeth
>Inspired hath in every holt and heeth
>The tendre croppes, and the yonge sonne
>Hath in the Ram his halfe cours y-ronne,
>And smale foweles maken melodye,
>That slepen al the nyght with open ye,
>So priketh hem Natúre in hir corages,
>Thanne longen folk to goon on pilgrimages,
>And palmeres for to seken straunge strondes,
>To ferne halwes, kowthe in sondry londes;
>And specially, from every shires ende
>Of Engelond, to Caunterbury they wende,
>The hooly blisful martir for to seke,
>That hem hath holpen whan that they were seeke.
shoures soote means sweet showers
swich licour is sweet liquid
eek means also
strondes are lands
kowthe means known
As for meter, make sure to pronounce the -e sounds unless they come before a vowel or an h. Its in iambic pentameter other than the first line so you should intuitively know which sounds to pronounce but I still highly recommend something like this to get a feel
youtu.be/GihrWuysnrc
Don't go anywhere near '''''translations''''' of Chaucer, you can read Chaucer and get most of it if you're not retarded, and then your edition will have notes to push you the final mile. It's worth it for lines like
>And smale foweles maken melodye,
>That slepen al the nyght with open ye,
>So priketh hem Natúre in hir corages,
>Thanne longen folk to goon on pilgrimages,
Anyone got any tips for me on tackling Chaucer? God I want to read Canterbury Tales

Get an edition with some notes. I know there are videos of people reading the general prologue on YouTube but I haven't seen any more. Maybe if you buy an audio book..
This one has a small section on pronunciation and grammar at the start too

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Doesn't anybody on Yea Forums like Charles Bukowski??

Nope

Keats a cute

WWI poets are my favourite:
Siegfried Sassoon
Wilfred Owen
Edward Thomas
I just find that time fascinating; Edward Thomas wrote mainly about the nature in England, he's probably the best of those three if you don't care about the war

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you don't like robert graves?
& charles sorley was also very good

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Yes, I shouldn't have left Graves out
I don't know much about Sorley though, thanks