These movies get a lot of divisive discussion and it's hard for opposing sides to empathize with the other so I'll...

These movies get a lot of divisive discussion and it's hard for opposing sides to empathize with the other so I'll explain why. Because they both suffer from the same condition.

Both of these movies are literally too smart for normies, but dumb for people who analyze films. The thematic elements and allegories are going to fly over most people's heads, but fail even when they don't. So this leads to a weird type of discussion.

These movies aren't pleb filter, if you hate it it's because you didn't get it or didn't like the execution or themes. If you did like it, it's because you recognize the themes and production process but haven't put them under scrutiny yet.

tldr

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nah they're just plain shit
Last Jedi very very very much more so
and you're a gay

guess which end of the spectrum you're on based on this hypothesis :-)

guess how many gallons of negro cum you've guzzled down based on your hypothesis :-)

only way to call Last Jedi good is if you're watching the fanedit that takes out all the horsefuckery, YAS QUEENing and dumb Marvel jokes. having it just be primarily about Rey + Kylo makes it feel like a lean-and-mean minimalist kino.

but we shouldn't have to be watching fanedits. Rian "The Hack" Johnson should pull his head out of his ass and start making movies that are completely good instead of trying to "subvert expectations" like he did with TLJ and Looper. goddamnit i wanted to like Looper so much but the back half of the movie is just trash.

Add Prometheus and Alien Covenant

Seething, The Last Jedi is kino. You have shit taste.

Unironically correct for BvS, TLJ doesn't have any themes it's just shit for the sake of being shit though

Literal fucking brainlet

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The only things that happened in Last Jedi were the Republic is reduced to like 30 people and Luke is gone.
Veganism was kind of a theme of Finn's story?
Anti tyranny is an ideal theme of the Republic but it's completely canceled out by Poe's story.
I think Rian Johnson is a fan of the KOTOR games because he tried to implement 2's major question of why are jedi and sith associated with good and evil with Luke and Rey then again with Kylo and Rey. Then all of that is canceled out yet again when Kylo just decides to be a bad guy.
It had neat ideas it tried to implement but they didn't matter in the end because nothing really came out of them.
I didn't watch BVS because I was done with DC after Superman Returns

BvS is well executed testosterone kino, TLJ is s󠀀oy󠀀 fueled garbage and utterly inconsistent. Don't @ me, s󠀀oy󠀀boys.

TLJ is more kino than BVS

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Fpbp

>the plebs argument

>Both of these movies are literally too smart for normies
No, they aren't. They're just bad movies.

BvS had a lot of clunky scenes that were dumb and overall the movie didn't add up to anything
Last Jedi is just a head scratching mess...I have no idea what they were going for with it

(yes I know Force Awakens was bad but "star wars greatest hits" at least makes sense)

>implying it's worth arguing with s󠀀oy󠀀boys

onions speak

Lad you're the onions

Indeed. And you are the s󠀀oy󠀀.

Except BVS (the ultimate edition) was actually good.

The theatrical version of the last jedi is good and better than most starshit movies

It's the second worst Star Wars movie, tastelet.

It was garbage and The Last Jedi was garbage.

No that would be rogue one or solo which are both dogshit and the worst star wars flicks, you fucking pleb. Don't ever talk to me again about movies unless you learn something.

Usually faggots who like shit movies pretend they're smart. Cheers to you for pretending you're only average.

>No that would be rogue one or solo which are both dogshit and the worst star wars flicks, you fucking pleb. Don't ever talk to me again about movies unless you learn something.

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>no retort
Kek

>the s󠀀oy󠀀boy thinks he's worth a retort

>When the söy hits

Oh look, it's a thot

(You)

You could've had an interesting thread but you ruined it with buzzwords and school yard insults

Maybe it's just me but at least on Yea Forums, I've seen more than a few people actually give a legitimate analysis or critique as to why Batman v Superman is pretty good and has some artistic integrity to it even if it's capeshit. I can't say the same for The Last Jedi since I've seen mostly nothing but frustration from it's fans since the movie came out. So I'd say BvS > TLJ

Low qualitiy bait. Both movies have a poor script, are poorly directed and the die hard fans of both movies are obnoxious retards that won't shut up.

Batman v Superman is retarded and terrible. There is no depth to it, and the people who claim otherwise are laughable.

What makes you think there's no depth to it user?

a well adjusted brain

The delusion in this one...

Prometheus is mostly good, but has some really bad moments.
Covenant is mostly bad, but has some really good moments.