Is it true that every likable female character is written with primarily male qualities?

Is it true that every likable female character is written with primarily male qualities?

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Reason and accountability? Why yes.

Yes. Nobody likes women, especially other women.

thanks jack

I wouldn't say all of them but I definitely have a preference for tomboys.

>virtue
>leadership
>resilience

These aren’t qualities that women generally have. Even the girliest anime loli has the sexdrive and agreeableness of male.

nope

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Pft, no way. There's tons of great feminine characters who don't carry any of the stereotypical male qualities. The problem is that the stereotypes have been over used and amplified so much (on both sides) in Hollywood films, that over time we've been to be conditioned to appreciate male qualities more, compared to female ones. This was probably unavoidable though, because men by nature or generally more adventurous and willing to fail, compared to women, who tend be more protective over the status quo. This difference is a biological necessity. However, only one of them is good for the 'heros journey' narrative.

name 2 from flicks, 5 from movies, 3 from films, and 1 from a kino

Unironically see the ponies from MLP where there is a great variety of likeable feminity.
I'll see myself out before you crucify me.

those are written as children and not adult females

i can only think of a truly feminine character which is good. ripley.

Yeah, it's just sort of easy to lean into male stereotypes for cinematic purposes.

They are actually young adults though they don't show much of the adult world in a kids show.
The problem is that we're in a wave of "girls can be baddass too" and almost every single media panders only to that. Which is ironically what the creator of MLP wanted to counter by showing different examples of great female characters.

not that guy but these characters are distinctly feminine:

Amelie
Mathilda (Leon)
Catwoman (Batman Returns)
Ariel (Little Mermaid)

it seems like great feminine characters are generally found in kino

No, most writers don't know how to write a heroic woman though so they just write a man and give them tits.

If you want a great example of an archetypal heroic female character you should look to the original Penelope from the Odyssey. Penelope is the Queen of Ithika who has to protect her kingdom from male suitors who wish to marry her and assume the lost Odysseus's title as king. As a woman she's only able to tell them to fuck off for so long before people start thinking she's being unreasonable so she has to use her wits and cunning to delay them which she succeeds in doing for 20 years until Odysseus returns and slaughters the lot of them.

A modern writer would just have Penelope kill the suitors herself or have her give some speech about how she don't need no man that ignores the realities of her position.

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The major is an excellent example.

>every likable female character is written with primarily male qualities?
No, that's also a reason why they're shit as most writers just create a woman character because the studio say so, so they just make a male one and genderswap him. Only exceptions to this rule that i can think of are Riley and Ahsoka.

Ripley was a straight up gun blazing action hero in Aliens you dingus. Just because she held a kid in her arms didn't make her personality feminine.

of being a good character that isn't male like.
Strong sure, assertive absolutely but masculine? no
She's the leader of a military group so he needs those qualities while working sometimes, but most of the time while not operating she's very lady like and uses her looks to her advantage. She also stated that she chose her body over others, which means she enjoys being a beautiful woman. whatever, im not going to think about what i want to say

Then I'm not sure what people want, when any dynamic traits are immediately classed as "male" you a priori rule out the possibility of a non-masculine female hero

No, it's pretty much the exact opposite. Pic related is not a good example since she can swap bodies so her gender is irrelevant to her character. Ironically Batou is more nurturing than Major.

that's actually a great point, I haven't thought of that

>any dynamic traits

name me a single woman IRL that was a gun blazing action hero

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Also Scherezade from Arabian Nights and Rahab from the old testament

BASED

She was PTSD victim having constant nightmares working at a loading dock. She overreacted to synths being part of the mission because of that traumatic experience and she was just an advisor through the first half of the movie. Until her space marine boyfriend taught her how to use a gun. A gun that she couldn't use to save herself or the kid she was hugging because she fell asleep and the dorkiest mother fucker alive stole it so she had to be saved by her marine boyfriend. It really wasn't until the very end when she went into momma bear mode because the alien took her surrogate child.

No.

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Women, explain this.

all characters I want to fuck, nice

congrats on not being gay

Ripley always struck me as having a masculine personality though. She has a male job - driving a forklift, and her PTSD reaction is to smack a tray out of Bishop's hands and tell him to back off. The way she takes over when Lt Gorman fumbles is kind of behavior you'd expect from a man.

Well, while her heart was in the right place, her K/D ratio was very feminine.

Nope, feminists just hate to see women portrayed with motherly qualities and western media is not really pro-traditional family.

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I can kinda see where you're coming from But the forklift job is a plot device, she initially just complains to that sleezebag Burke until Bishop confronts her directly and Gorman wasn't fumbling he was fucking up completely and then froze.

She was the lead so she will be more proactive but Ripley stayed out of the way of the soldiers only using a gun when she was the only person left and took on the surrogate mother role for Newt.

>Killed 0, injured 3
right

The GOT women

Persona (1966)
The Mirror (1975)
La Dolce Vita (1960)
La Strada (1954)
Nights of Cabiria (1957)
Mulholland Dr. (2001)
Inland Empire (2006)
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (1992)
Y Tu Mama Tambien (2001)
Three Colors: Blue (1993)
Three Colors: Red (1994)
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
Santa Sangre (1989)
A Woman Under the Influence (1974)
Burning (2018)
Long Day’s Journey Into Night (2018)
Suspiria (2018)

To name a few. This post is fucking stupid.

I think we can all agree that Ripley was a good character, but I wouldn't say she's a great example of a strictly feminine character.

Children should be raised by the state

You ever see The Long Kiss Goodnight?

>Enjoying turbo sluts

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just to play devil's advocate a bit, but would you say the characters in either Persona or Mullholland Dr are "likeable" per se?

They are women, and they're good characters, but the movies are about how venal and awful these characters are

Have sex

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yeah, about 20 years ago, and the only thing I remember is Gena Davis ice skating with a gun.

Let's be honest, Audrey was a turbo slut herself and the whole "virgin" thing was the biggest subversion until TLJ came around.

All likable females have to operate by the same standards as likable males.

No matter if male or female, audiences will dislike a character that lacks good, clear and logical reasoning and is dispassionate about accountability. If a baseline standard is not met and held consistently, you end up with highly detestable characterization and critics will certainly be quick to tell you.

There is a reason why people dislike Naraku in the Inuyasha anime series. He's effectively all talk, no action and a constant, fleeing coward that has no sense of progress. Likewise, Wesley Crusher gets mocked and derided for managing feats/acquiring things without earning it or centralizing a story about his character who had no real challenges.

Females written with male qualities can be bad-which is precisely why people of both genders are disgusted by actresses/characters that poorly emulate male mannerisms.

It's much better to define it like this:
Males and females are both capable of exhibiting undesirable mannerisms, functions, and behaviors. Some people are simply more aware than others of what those things are and can more clearly define them. Women are simply more inclined to respond with emotion ahead of logic at a moment's notice and men are more inclined to respond with actions instead of words.

Ignoring logic
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Injecting 'upset' sass
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overreacting when being exposed on a lie
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Are the worst aspects of female characters that hinge on emotional ugliness. If a story isn't cohesive to support any character, male or female, it can serve to magnify the content of their character-if they have any at all.

This is why Henry Cavill's Clark Kent/Kal-el/Superman andBrie Larson's Carol Danvers get shat on so much - only female responders are infinitely more vocal against detractors due to the very 3 linked reasons above - which further drives the point.

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based ContraPoster

have children

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>the only thing I remember is Gena Davis ice skating with a gun.

I'm sure I can refresh your memory some.
The poin't being, in reference to your previous statement

>I wouldn't say she's a great example of a strictly feminine character.

Gena Davis starts off the movie as this woman named Samantha. Samantha is mild mannered charming, funny caring house wife. For the most part "strictly feminine". But once she's attacked she begins to change or revert into her previous or primary persona Charley. And Charley is a pretty "masculine" character, has extreme masculine traits. And that carries on for awhile but towards the end of the movie her maternal instinct kicks back in and what you get is a somewhat softer version of Charley.

The overall point being the concept of what it means to be feminine or strictly feminine. And I would say someone being assertive doesn't make them not feminine. In Ripley's case going by the examples given. She took the opportunity to be assertive and speak her mind. As opposed to Charley who basically sheds her feminine nature at some point during the movie. (this point)

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But to me at least there's a difference. I have seen movies and women that I would not consider feminine in their action, but there are also movies and women that maintain there femininity while being assertive.

>the major
>female

well, only 9mm you know

Have genitals.

>blocks your path

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dont you ever fucking talk about my wife like that you fucking idiot

Every white girl loves ethnic cock especialy lenght of black dick and girth of asian dragon cock

>believing a tranny CGI psyop

>Amelie
OH NON NON NON

Popular female characters are ones both male and female people can admire.

Le popular female characters are ones that only deflecting in-denial pathetic women admire like ghostbusters.

Alita battle angel +++

Captain Marvel ---

your "wife" doesn't even know if she was ever a real human

The Major isnt likable at all unless you're a statist cuck

sure smells like incel in here

holy based

I love looking up these stupid buzzwords before everyone used them to see how well the old Yea Forums predict this shit.

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Every likeable female character is written primarily by men.

Sounds based af actually. Maybe I should get off my ass and read some of those old classics already.

t. zoomer

>Women don't have a sexdrive
user, I suggest you go outside more often

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