/RBMK/ - Chernobyl/Kinobyl

Did he get his 400 ruble stipend??

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You will do it, because it's must be done. You will do it, because nobody else can. And if you don't millions will die. If you tell me that's not enough, I won't believe you. This is what has always set our people apart. A thousand yers of sacrifice in our veins. And every generation must know its own suffering. I spit on the people, who did this, I curse the price I have to pay. But I making my peace with it, now you make yours. Go into that water. Because it msut be done.

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Fucking RADIOACTIVE WOLVES

Do any of you by any chance know where I can find the ost's for the show? They are so comfy and would be top tier to listen to whilst going for a run

>Did he get his 400 ruble stipend??
300 rubles!?!?

What do you need 200 rubels for?

I don't know where you got this 100 rubel idea from.

So

ep3: miner and the ebin tunnel
ep4: le soldiers and clean up
ep5: putting the sarkeesian on it and the Vienna conference

?

No. They got the same stipend as every other first responders and liquidators from fund 904.

>strong woman saves the world
yikes

strawpoll.me/17965540/r
vote here fellow women and people of color!
let our voices be heard!
let the world know that pale males dont have a monopoly on kino or critical thinking skills!

Here is Valery Bespalov, the second diver, recieving the same award

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Now you know how that dude got his position (that and shooting people he disagreed with)

Oh cool. Ty user

Interview on youtube youtube.com/watch?v=kNJ7i9hD2yo

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im really going to miss these threads when the show ends

That guy looks like he's in his early 30s desu.

well she's smart as hundreds of scientists so that makes sense

and they had to make up the character from an amalgamation of several scientists. probably all of which were male.

Translate? Kinda looks like him actually.

Whoops wrong photo, thats the dead one's son
That was my bad

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There wasn't shootings after the 60s. People got send to Azeribaijan to be the new secretary or just got their pension and a hearthy goodbye.
that guy is way too young.

>im really going to miss these threads when the show ends
I'm happy that there's a very interesting show on that creates this much discussion.

> THE independent WOMYN is smarter than every character
> She understands everything literally in one minute

If water evaporating too fast creates a bomb that can kill 60 million people if it's radiated why don't we make water bombs?

Did they really send dudes up on to that roof to remove the radioactive waste using wooden planks?

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See

Can't we look into this?. What were the scientists's names?

The proofs meter is going up. Maybe you could be right after all.

>didn't mutate special powers
X-Men lied to me!

Greetings, I am delusional. Can anyone direct me to the infirmary?

I didn't know that until right now tbphwyf

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>If water evaporating too fast creates a bomb that can kill 60 million people if it's radiated why don't we make water bombs?
The flash explosion of the water would've set off the other 3 reactors thus causing the nuclear explosion

At least that's what I got from her explanation.

This show is great; if this is your strongest criticism then all you're doing is looking for stuff get mad about, in quite the same way as the SJWs you despise.

Yes

it's just the feedwater user, you'll be fine

If it's stupid, but it works, then it's not stupid.

I get the imprression that they only started the evacuation when the International community noticed that the shit had exploded.
Did they really not think that anyone would have noticed and that life would just keep humming along?

Not sure about wooden planks, but yes they did exactly that. Every person was only allowed to be on the roof for less than a minute and was paid a decent amount of money.

And how would you deliver this 7000 cubic meter bomb?

>Can't we look into this?.
I learned of the amalgamation from the IMDB trivia page. No idea if there's expanded info on say the wikipedia page. I doubt that everyone involved had their name recorded.

Because the water was dangerous because
>A
There was a lot of it
>B
It was in a tight, enclosed space about to be pierced by nuclear lava

So, what historical event deserves an HBO miniseries next?

under extremely hot temperatures water sublimates back into its constituent elements, and hydrogen and oxygen, well, you dont need to be told what they do in a fire

Why did they need to drive a truck to confirm the core was gone? IT WAS FUCKING OBVIOUS! FUCKING SITNIKOV SAW IT ON THE ROOF. WHY IS EVERYONE IN DENIAL AND DELUSIONAL!??!?!? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

It took one fucking google search, and I found the link to the ukrainian site on the third result
everyone arguing over this is confirmed brain dead. This is more than enough proof to hold up in a court of law, you have the fucking president of ukraine giving the two survivors (third one died in 2005 of heart failure) and you fucks are saying its not enough proof? This is just an absurd argument all together
>take your fucking meds

>There wasn't shootings after the 60s. People got send to Azeribaijan to be the new secretary or just got their pension and a hearthy goodbye.
"Disagree? Off to gulag with you."

Essentially yes. You underestimate how little regard for human life the ussr had.

>Did they really not think that anyone would have noticed and that life would just keep humming along?
I doubt any individual thought that, but the system did. As long as the system is happy, it didn't matter.

they wanted roentgen readings. idk why though since all the dosimeters clearly read 3.6 roentgen.

Election night, 2016

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>So, what historical event deserves an HBO miniseries next?
Armenian Holocaust.

nah the point was that the shock wave from the water explosion would destroy the three other reactors which would then open the cores and they'd start leaking radiation as well, they wouldn't explode since RBMK reactors can't do that

Because muh radiation is not so dangerous even the divers are still alive

Giving the two survivors a medal of honor*

During the Iran-Iraq War, Iran tried to use its natural gas wealth to make a "caseless" bomb. Had the same problems as chemical weapons: concentration, direction, blowback. We make bombs instead of playing MacGuyver for a reason.

Threadly reminder
>2 divers are still alive
>One died in 2005 of heart attack
>the operation was conducted on 5th may
>fire crew pumped out the water from corridor 001 before the divers went in
>max reading on their dosimeters was 10
>they did not use diving equipement, just dry suits and respirators
>they could communicate freely
> they found and opened the valves with ease
souzchernobyl.org/?section=101&id=2440

If they did notice, they were told to mind their business or else. The authorities didn't wan't to create a panic, project any weakness or admit that it's bad. If they could cover it up quickly, they could tell the world it's not a big deal. Once the cat was out of the bag it didn't matter anymore.

Holodomor

>well, you dont need to be told what they do in a fire
Draw me a diagram on a piece of paper or I'll throw you out of this helicopter. Here's my pen.

Do you think he wanted a blowjob for those pills?. Will she give it to him to save her comrades?

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>westerners suddenly becoming interested in one of 20th century biggest events because hbo made tv series based on it

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The dyatlov pass

Idk what is your problem with the female scientist. Also in reality a whole team of scientists worked on it. Not just one.

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Is there any case of impeding doom like Chernobyl? Fukushima maybe? That one Minuteman fuel leak? K-19? They all seem derivative in comparison.

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To insinuate that they proved radiation is harmless is the definition of naive.
They were just beyond lucky, it's damn near a miracle they lived.

Calm down, it's evidence pointing towards possible truth, which I'm started to believe is probably the truth anyway.

>nah the point was that the shock wave from the water explosion would destroy the three other reactors which would then open the cores and they'd start leaking radiation as well, they wouldn't explode since RBMK reactors can't do that

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Brandon Raub.

Shcherbina ordered 3km zone evacuation on 26th May, Sweden registered the radioactivity two days later.

We got taught this in Physics class in the UK pretty sure thats the case for most countries when it comes to the Nuclear power topics

A Russian in another thread said something like “Equality was all over the place”. I’m guessing there were at least a few women.

Westerners literally became interested in Chernobyl 2 days after it happened. In fact there are more studies as to what happened at Chernobyl in a handful of Western countries than the entirety of the dead Soviet Union.

>Disagree
>Doesn't get a good job
>Not allowed to go to uni
There was no terror and such after the 60s.

Fake or not, that scene in the end of ep. 2 was absolutely horrifying.

Any non-propaganda riddled sources? Who cares anyway? it's a dramatization and playing it up in the show emphasizes the importance of their task

Implying they knew of it before the show came out

>May
April of course.

Did they already do one on the Arab Spring?

>Is there any case of impeding doom like Chernobyl?
There was the time the USSR accidentally nearly started WW3 but was saved because a watch commander (or something like that) disbelieved the order and broke protocol.

>not COD4
>or Stalker
>or high school physics/geography lessons
>or the massively overblown tabloid headlines 2 days after the incident

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Call Of Duty made me interested

can someone explain the options to me?

>A Russian in another thread said something like “Equality was all over the place”. I’m guessing there were at least a few women.
oh I'm sure there was at least one woman. my problem is with the uneeded diversification.

Honestly surprised that Gorbachev (holy shit I spelled that correctly the first time) wasn't played by Idris Elba.

>slavs taking pride in their failures

link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-94-011-3816-1_2

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How the fuck souzchernobyl is a propogana source? Why would any "propoganda" deminish the heroism of those people?

Why did he want the upside down glass?

>114791388

Alright that's enough lad you're trying too hard here

there have definitely been intelligent civilizations which have built massive chains of nuclear reactors which had a fatal flaw and consequently wiped out the entire planet
i see them in dreams

>stalker
fucking this

It really lessens the impact knowing the dudes survived. I'm glad they dis and they're still heroes but the show really made the whole thing so dramatic. The show said it was a death sentence.

>Do you think he wanted a blowjob for those pills?. Will she give it to him to save her comrades?
Dude was so fat he probably had to take 5 pills.

I've also heard the pills aren't proven to actually work, they are just supposed to work in theory. I could be wrong though.

> She understands everything literally in one minute
m8 they're nuclear physicists. Pic related confirmed that the reactor had exploded by looking at the injury report about spicy rocks burning hands, concluding it had to be Graphite, and concluding everything else.

He LITERALLY understands everything in a few seconds while nervously waiting to meet Gorbachev. The make pretend lady is shown testing things, calling Chernobyl, establishing rapport with the fatman's secretary and calling her to get details, etc.

The hypocrisy here is a palpable.
>seeing bullets man figure literally everything out from a piece of paper before a meeting is acceptable
>watching multiple scenes of make pretend lady investigating and putting everything together means she "understands everything literally in one minute."

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Yeah, that's why boys controlled and ran everything.

There was the bear tripping the alarm at NORAD in time with a satellite glitch as well, but these moments seem so much more contained than either of those. There's no constant crushing danger or objective that has to be rushed to accomplishment. Its ultimately a self contained sort of decision issue and I dont know how they could draw it out effectively.

Also, the aesthetic wouldn't be as fucking great.

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There was a time when the USA planted nukes next to the USSR. It caused an escalation that lead to the Soviets arming the Cubans.

I was literally 10 years old when Chernobyl happened and remember the endless footage of the glowing reactor core being transmitted on tv

> the one woman saves the day
I'm still waiting for black or trans character to appear.

Okay maybe I got that wrong, the rest of my argument still stands

does anybody know?

Dust didn't settle in it

>There was a time when the USA planted nukes next to the USSR. It caused an escalation that lead to the Soviets arming the Cubans.
got within 13 hours of WW3 thanks to that.

To use to bring the core more feedwater. It all goes back to the feedwater.

Soviet Union had Affirmative action policies. But they were class based instead of gender/race. Also there were tons of Africans studying at the University of the People's Friendship.

less radioactive particles I would assume. the glass was recently washed too.

>slav hipsters
>I knew about the reason I have to take radaway before it was cool

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>There was the bear tripping the alarm at NORAD in time with a satellite glitch as well, but these moments seem so much more contained than either of those. There's no constant crushing danger or objective that has to be rushed to accomplishment. Its ultimately a self contained sort of decision issue and I dont know how they could draw it out effectively.
yeah I recall them going nuts over fukashima saying the core could melt down the earth's core.

or was that the china syndrome?

The Dyatlov Pass is the best example of how effective psychoacoustics are on the human brain. So much so that psychoacoustic based weaponry is a thing.
TLDR the shape of the mountains would cause an effect similar to when you blow over a bottle, only instead of an audible tone, you got a very loud sub-harmonic bass frequency that is inaudible.
The thing about sub-harmonic bass is that even though we dont hear anything, our bodies recognize it. And it registers it as one thing:
Fear
>Which is why its the single best tool for a horror film score.
> t. Audio engineer and film composer

Okay. Do you take that as evidence against what I said?

That was part of taking over post-colonial Africa and led straight to the Ethiopean famine.

Your whole argument is "muh propaganda". It does not stend at all.

So if you dump something really hot into a lake you would destroy the entire province around it?

Wouldn't it still be radioactive?

Nukes were already in West and East Germany for decades. The chest puffing with the missiles in Turkey and Cuba was just that.

yeah, this is why you cant have BBQs by lakes

Yes but he didn't want to ingest radioactive dust too

He already knows there's been an accident and that the meters only go to 3.6 so he's been thinking about it and got his confirmation with the graphite in the report. Both used their noggins to figure it out. And the lady she calls is at the Kurchatov Institute in Moscow (of which Legasov is the director at the time), no relation to Minsk shoeman secretary.

No.

Presumably less so, I don't think the drinking water was that contaminated compared to the air.

>Wouldn't it still be radioactive?
Fallout is radioactive. the other particles are not. So if you clean all the fallout off, you're good.

>people in Las Vegas having flash watching parties for atmospheric bomb tests

oh shit nigger what the hell are you doing?

>brits running an open air graphite core for enrichment where the just push the old fuel out the back

Oh Shit Nigger, What the Hell are you Doing??

>Russian run an open loop coolant cycle dumping untreated radioactive water directly into a river

OH SHIT NIGGA WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING???

>Radiation contained the water
>Glasses were washed
>Picking the older glass implies it contacted less radiation
It's dramatisation, but in my country people lived on cans and iodine pills for a few months, because of the fear.

there's already a movie about it and it sucks ass
could have been actually decent if they went with the same plot minus poorly made mockumentary shit

Uhhh no? My argument is that the show changed events for dramatic purposes, something that happens in pretty much every historical drama ever.

real men drink vodka out of uranium glass

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We're talking about scientists you mong. Politburo was a boys' club but almost everything below that was fair game.

>And the lady she calls is at the Kurchatov Institute in Moscow (of which Legasov is the director at the time), no relation to Minsk shoeman secretary.
no she calls the lady that she gave the iodine pills to find out about what they're doing at the plant. that's how she finds out they're dumping boron on it.

>I've also heard the pills aren't proven to actually work, they are just supposed to work in theory. I could be wrong though.
Welp. I'm wrong.

CDC says it works

cdc.gov/nceh/radiation/emergencies/ki.htm

brb buying iodine pills for emergency supply kit.

which immediately after she looks at the blueprints for the reactor and comes to the conclusion that the resulting lava will probably melt through to the water, which scientist man was also perfectly aware of.

is that rotten robbie?

There's a scene in Behind the Urals where wartime Soviets react to an earlier affirmative action policy. Gigantic Russian Finns stand in line for chow. A short Mongol tries to cut in front of them, as he had been allowed to do in a clumsy affirmative action-like program. The Finns quietly, politely, effortlessly lift him out of the way, gently place him to the side, and say without any anger, "no."

Saw stuff like that at the atomic testing museum in vegas. could use a geiger counter to see their radio activity. was pretty neat.

I never got why the Soviets let the Americans bully them like that. They have their nukes in Germany and Turkey, withinf a few hundred km from Russia, but then start QQing when the Russkis do the same and put some in Cuba. What kinda bullshit double standard was that?

No. It's the general situation in the SU.

Licet Jovi non licet bovi.

>(dosimeter clicking rapidly)

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Ah, so you have one female scientist who chaired a research institute or headed a lab? I need a name, Vassily.

> tfw basedboys in this thread protect Mary Sue character

>I never got why the Soviets let the Americans bully them like that.
lmao there was no bullying. Russia had nukes pointed at America, America has nukes pointed at them.

No good guys or bad guys.

>episode one is a gold mine of memes
>episode 2 ....

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The dramatization started way before the show by jornos in Trud.

They work but it wont save you from radiation poisoning, just from that one iodine isotope.

Is a lake in a mostly sealed container or can the steam go wherever the fuck?

>What kinda bullshit double standard was that?

The kind that gives America the advantage? The Soviets would have done the same had they not blinked when America put their chips on the table.

>They work but it wont save you from radiation poisoning, just from that one iodine isotope.
Yeah, protects your thyroid but nothing else.

Still though...i'd take them if needed.

ep 2 memes are underrated desu

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there are already a million billion trillion episode 2 memes though

Isn't thyroid cancer comparably benign though?

You're delusional

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I loved seeing all the articles that were like "GoT sucked...but at least you have Chernobyl"

"Castle Bravo Test Today"

it'll be fine it's only going to be a 6 megaton blast

>mfw 15 megatons

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Soviets were massively weak except for home court advantage, terrorism, and CultMarx. They had no ability to project force. Even when they won allies or clients overseas, they were unwilling to share good tech.

>muh double standard

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>They had no ability to project force.
and they still don't. sad!

The proximity matters because the missiles take time to reach their target. Close by nukes are more dangerous than far away nukes, especially back in the early 60s when the missile technology might not have been yet perfected

>Isn't thyroid cancer comparably benign though?
Not if it spreads.

i think thyroid cancer is one of the bad ones

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Well on the plus side we found a way to boost output. On the down side the nips were pissed we nuked their fishing crew (no one cares about the island natives.)

episode 2 memes are still spicy they're just more depressing.

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Can someone tell me if they too are finding that every male character in this show has the exact same voice and accent and intonations and stuff??? I can't be the only one dude

Just watched the latest episode, why did the flashlights go out? I thought it was transistors that radiation messed with, do flashlights use transistors?

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People really weren't freaked out about nukes/radiation until the TV movie "The Day After" (another damn good movie) from what I heard.

Regan watched that and shortly after met with the USSR to discuss reducing nukes.

How radioactive is it? How much would you be harmed drinking from one?

>terrorism
>CultMarx
This is your brain on stormfront

Consider that people deficient in iodine turn stupid. I wouldn't want to risk it.

I would say it doesn't matter considering the attempt of the Soviet to set up missiles in Cuba. It would have happened regardless if the Americans set them up in Turkey or not.

the main character is a bit of an alarmist, no? I mean I know they weren't sure but where did he come up with 5 years?

Probably shit equipment from Moscow.

Not only time is a factor. Short range missles also fly low under the radar detection range.

He's had enough with his "We're safe" bullshit, because it's not true.

>dies of cancer 4 years later

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Russian_women_scientists dig around and you'll find some

There is nothing to learn from this retarded thread aside from the fact that mental illness is extremely prevalent in these retarded threads.
Maybe you're not the autistic "prove it" retard and I'm confusing you with him but in any case, fuck off you patronizing cunt.

massively yeah, he sees a bit of smoke and burnt concrete and suddenly its CORE MELTDOWN this and GRAPHITE EJECTION that, just a complete hysteric

>How radioactive is it? How much would you be harmed drinking from one?
It's negligible. still though...i wouldn't want to drink out of a slightly radioactive cup for my entire life.

Back in the day, there were CRT TV's and watches that were slightly radioactive.

Did he really?

1% mortality rate mainly in old people and children. Curable/treatable.

>the main character is a bit of an alarmist, no
FUCK no

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Actually you do seem a little mad still. You posting
>I don't understand how anyone can claim that rearching anything is their job while displaying nothing but an absolute unwillingness to research anything
sums up my position perfectly, and I'm unsure why you won't understand this.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Russian_women_scientists
read that as:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy:Russian_women_scientists

Not saying it isn't serious, but, where did he come up with 5 years?

>germany telling kids not to play outside before USSR has even evacuated pripyat
i mean come on
what a shithole

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I have emetophobia and I had to stop watching because of all the vomiting that happens.

Why are /pol/tards whining about the female character? Other than stunted intellects with confirmation bias projecting their memes onto everything?

Wait no, that was the wrong line
>and I don't know you, so the only certainty I have regarding this shitty post is that you claim to do so

there

>Not saying it isn't serious, but, where did he come up with 5 years?
probably studies in indirect contact to a massive radiation source.

>the main character is a bit of an alarmist, no?
he seems like that because no one else is even mildly concerned

Watched the second episode. It makes it less scary knowing what happens to the men sent to open the valves. But, my heart was still jumping out of my chest.

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yepyepyep

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Why would some secretary know what they plan to do and not someone at the Kurchatov Institute. Secretary had a table of elements lying around? Look at

There were female academicians of the Soviet Academy of Science ( highest position possible for the scientist in USSR)

iirc the H-bomb doesnt leave as much fallout as the atomic bomb

>FIRST ONE TO EXPLAIN ME HOW DOES A REACTOE WORK GETS TO STAY ON MY HELICOPTER

Everything he was seeing added up to way more danger then anyone else was claiming. In that situation you have to assume worst case scenario until you figure out what is actually going on.

Him and his little baby will live, right?

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Probably got wet. Iirc in real life they had to swim and the torches went to shit.

incels are scared of women

>Why are /pol/tards whining about the female character?
Because it was done for feminism/diversity purposes. MUH STRONK WYMYN and all that.

I have emetophobia as well and usually I have to turn things off or close my eyes/cover my ears when someone vomits onscreen but in this show I can deal with it for some reason. Maybe because it makes the body horror aspect of it all more intense which is cool

How many bananas do I need to eat to hit 15k lads?

Because she's the one that makes all the fucking calls and shit dealing with Chernobyl in that area.

>it would be extremely complicated
>you're a smart guy
>for you

inb4 his hand melts.

Very alarmist

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That's not facually true. THe evacuation of 3km zone was at 2 pm on 27th. Western Countries knew about the disaster only on 28th.

>germany telling kids not to play outside before USSR has even evacuated pripyat
BUT THE BLUE BEAM SHOOTING OUT OF THE REACTOR WAS ALL THE WAY OVER THERE AND I WAS ALL THE WAY OVER HERE

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>iirc the H-bomb doesnt leave as much fallout as the atomic bomb
I think that's correct. I'd assume it burns more of the radioactive material.

Also depends on ground burst compared to air burst. air burst has the radiation dissipating quicker because the radioactive material isn't mixed into the ground debris, just sitting on top of it.

Are commies still bullshitting about the death count?

What about the dudes who touched the melted core?

Trying to find a cause of death, his wikipedia page isn't much help. Was it cancer?

Surprised that there aren't dosimeters literally everywhere. I would like to know what I was dealing with if I had to be anywhere near the plant.

It literally says the name and place before they show the lady talking on the phone saying it's the institute.

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the firefighters? dead as disco

Ah okay

Yes, telephones exists and people in Moscow are well aware of a problem at Chernobyl.

fuck that ill just take a 3.6 one and be a based denier, that fucking noise is the most terrifying thing ive ever heard

>Surprised that there aren't dosimeters literally everywhere.
The reactor simply can't explode. There was no need.

Russia was a hypermasculine culture. Stalin was a pretty severely patriarchal guy. You are a child who doesn't understand how to read things. People were promoted to meaningless positions all the time. The overall pattern is not eroded by any number of attempts to be more progressive than the West.

I was a bit bummed by the helicopter crash. The helicopter crashed not at the beginning of the drops, but toward the end, likely because the pilots were becoming very sick and disoriented.

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This is the first hbo miniseries I've watched are there any other good ones?

You will not find it. It is still under top secret. He first felt sick in 1988 during the Armenian earthquake rescue mission.

You are retarded. Look at the fucking pic

Thing is you can't count the casualties. 20% of the people die in cancer. It's really hard to know that whether it was caused by Chernobyl or not. Also radiation effects people differently.

2.6 dose of mrem per year through the potassium in the banana, if you ate one every day.
1 mrem gives you a 1 in 8 million chance of developing cancer.

You would die of diabetes first.

For occupational exposure, the limit is 50 mSv in a single year with a maximum of 100 mSv in a consecutive five-year period, and for the public to an average of 1 mSv (0.001 Sv) of effective dose per year, not including medical and occupational exposures.[1]

For comparison, natural radiation levels inside the US capitol building are such that a human body would receive an additional dose rate of 0.85 mSv/a, close to the regulatory limit, because of the uranium content of the granite structure.[29] According to the conservative ICRP model, someone who spent 20 years inside the capitol building would have an extra one in a thousand chance of getting cancer, over and above any other existing risk (calculated as: 20 a·0.85 mSv/a·0.001 Sv/mSv·5.5%/Sv ≈ 0.1%). However, that "existing risk" is much higher; an average American would have a 10% chance of getting cancer during this same 20-year period, even without any exposure to artificial radiation (see natural Epidemiology of cancer and cancer rates). These estimates are, however, unmindful of every living cell's natural repair mechanisms, evolved over a few billion years of exposure to environmental chemical and radiation threats that were higher in the past, and exaggerated by the evolution of oxygen metabolism.

It said it on one of the articles and one of the better-informed-sounding anons said so but idk if it's actually 100% confirmed cancer. I don't question the party.

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Yea I didn't get this part, why didn't they escort him to the infirmity? He was clearly delusional, when they asked him how it was possible for a RBMK to explode he was dumbfounded, yet they continued to listen to him.

Why didn't Legasov answer them when they asked how it could explode in episode 2?

>This is the first hbo miniseries I've watched are there any other good ones?
Game of Thrones.

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My post was a response to someone asking why a secretary would know of anything.

>Why didn't Legasov answer them when they asked how it could explode in episode 2?
Because he knew they wouldn't understand/care.

Could start with one of the war shows, Generation Kill. It's great.

He was born in 1919. He was 77 at the time.

If you can sum up your position about rhetoric in one sentence for every subject in existence, good for you.
Just don't cry when that simplistic view of the world doesn't bring you any valuable answer and gives you an easy excuse to not check anything until you've been spoonfed exactly what it contains.

radioactivity listen to the latest podcast

>gives you an easy excuse to not check anything until you've been spoonfed exactly what it contains.
You're still extremely extremely confused.

kek, that'll do it. Thanks.

She only knew the bullshit version since that's what the fat man knew.

I'm pretty sure I'm not, otherwise you'd be able to explain how.
Not that I give a fuck, now that I think about it.

The bottom woman in the pic was NOT the secretary of the fat man. She also doesn't seem to be a secretary, she seems like a scientist given the equipment around her.

More likely he didn’t really know exactly. He probably would be aware of the positive void coefficient problem but wouldn’t have actual evidence to it. All he knew was that the core had to have exploded because there was no other way for graphite to be on the ground.

this
if I had to go down there Id rather not take the dosimeter with me that escalating ticking would DEFINITELY scare me off from doing my duty to the Union

We're dealing with a device that operates because we can direct electrons into a specific path
The electrons are absolutely going to be disrupted by trillions of neutrons flying through them.
My bet is that the battery got fucked up.
There is a reason we insulate the fuck out of sensitive equipment in space crafts.
Its not the same but if youve ever held a magnet to a CRT monitor, you get the basic concept.

Ok.

I don't think there's any vomiting in the second episode
Honestly the first ep is one of the most intense pilots I have ever seen

He probably didn't have an answer. He didn't know that madman Dyatlov was running the reactor out of its parameters.

>Why are shills still trying to use flat-out lying to recharacterize peoples' complaints?
Because they don't know that people can scroll up or check archives. Shills aren't from here and don't know how the site works. They're paid activists who are given a "dossier" mischaracterizing the entire site as /pol/+Yea Forums and told to push terms like "incels."
Oh and all of the fake establishment outrage over imaginary Russians will never find its way to paid trolls who are not Russian.

There is puke everywhere in episode 2

>More likely he didn’t really know exactly. He probably would be aware of the positive void coefficient problem but wouldn’t have actual evidence to it. All he knew was that the core had to have exploded because there was no other way for graphite to be on the ground.
That's a possibility too. Not enough evidence on hand to convince them.

"oh yeah? prove it."
"i can't."
"hah. so you're wrong. we do nothing."

>no memelord Dyatlov in episode 2

>he thinks the academy of Science did not haveany power
In reality it was the monopoly on the science funding
>muh Stalin was a traditionalist
Big yikes.
>the overall pattern
The overall pattern was written into the soviet policies, where you can find affirmative action,

>I don't think there's any vomiting in the second episode
There's puke all over the floor. I do remember that much.

pilots and heli crew probably all passed out from super radiation poisoning + the electronics on the heli got slagged

even without the crane that chopper was going down and not in a nice way

I like that they did the chopper crash realistically and refrained from giant hollywood fireballs

Well he's kind of implying he doesn't know because he believes it was human error, and doesn't know the exact circumstances that happened.

>What have you done?
That makes it clear he knows someone is to blame.

Thanks.

I'm surprised people didn't meme Fomin saying the whole thing was Dyatlov's fault

boy I'm glad the power plant's burning over there and we're over here

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I never said she was you mongoloid. First one is a secretary that doesn't know shit and gets some iodine. Second one is a scientist that works at the Kruceatov Institute in Moscow and gets called by whatsherface to get info about what they're doing. Scientist lady in Moscow tells whatsherface that they're dumping sand and boron.

I recommend "The Night Of" and "The Terror"
They're both top notch

It looked pretty close to the real filmed accident so they probably used it for reference.

Boris Shcherbina
Boris Shcherbina (played by Stellan Skarsgard) was the deputy head of the Soviet government in charge of the investigation after the Chernobyl disaster hours after the accident. When he arrived in Pripyat (the city near the plant), he rejected to suggest an order for mass evacuation, saying, "Panic is worse than radiation." The town would not be evacuated until 36 hours after the explosion.

He died in 1990 at age 70, and it's not clear if he died of radiation or not, given that he ordered the construction of a new town in the highly contaminated area. In a secret 1988 decree that he helped form, Soviet doctors could not cite radiation as a cause of death or illness.

Right, I thought you were saying the bottom woman was a secretary.

The crash itself was fine, but the timing made no sense. The pilots crashed after many trips back and forth, and what happened is they hit some cables with their tail rotor.

got the terror downloaded some anons were saying to get ready for some retarded polar bear cgi

The Terror is AMC

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Holy shit these threads are fast now.

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Dyatlov did nothing wrong. He was just following the instructions of the HydroProject that came up with the experiment.

sorry guys I did a lot of drugs when I was a kid

You'll understand when you're older.

Only seen the "battle of"

>anons were saying to get ready for some retarded polar bear cgi
Another who complains about that is retarded, because the story is about the men trapped on the ice whiles being stalked by the creature.

>The crash itself was fine, but the timing made no sense. The pilots crashed after many trips back and forth, and what happened is they hit some cables with their tail rotor.
probably had to condense it for the episode since we haven't really seen the "end" of the helicopter drops.

Alexei Ananenko
Valery Bezpalov
Boris Baranov

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they prepared you well. such potential, wasted. so many realistic things could have killed those men, why add some manbearpig?

Mah nigga
I know what I'm watching tonight
Never too late to get back in the game, toke up boyo

They've always been fast. GoT fans are not made stay stay in one thread and nothing else out right now is this good.

>The Terror would have been better if it actually wasn't The Terror
You do realize The Terror is a fantastic novel, right?

F

Jesus Christ it looks like something out of The Thing.

That hospital that got hit in hurricane Katrina

Nono. I was correcting someone who said whatsherface called the secretary in minsk to get the sand/boron info in exchange for the iodine she gave her earlier. Secretary wouldn't know shit.

>DNA, load up 8 extra limbs please

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Starving on ice => kino real horror.
Producers decide to bring in an Eskimo legend for some reason, and the only one they can come up with is the lamest mythological monster ever, a polar bear with a human face => time to put you on the floe.

Apologies. Still good though right.
Amongst the many things in the show yeah. It stars our man Legasov though so you know it's safe.

What is your problem? Why do you think that women were treated poorly in USSR? There is no proof for that.

My mistake fren

they hit a cable, you can see it in the video

I feel like nuclear accidents and just huge disasters in generals have always been a Yea Forums staple. It doesn't surprise me that the show is so popular here, especially when there is so much real history to talk about

I think its a case of sacrificing factual accuracy for kino.

Yeah it didnt happen that way IRL but this way it serves to prove Legasovs earlier point about 'fly over it and were ded' quite neatly.

>muh million billion trillion bullets
>5 years
>50,000 years
>3.6=15,000
>first one to tell me how a reactor works gets to stay on this plane
>whats the point of irradiating a man if you're going to throw him from a plane
>we are number one guy with baby
>I'd prefer that one
>GOMAD radiation treatment
>we made a list
>anything we should worry about
>I have MY opinion
>do you feel in charge?
>drinks vodka
>lol flashlights

no Dyatlov and no more table slapper and more rational people are coming into the picture means less cartoonishly memeable lines but there's still a lot of untapped fruit to be picked if we wanted.

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Did the radiation prevent him from aging?

The test was supposed to be done at 700 MW, not 200.

Take his man in the infirmary

Based professor

new
new
new

----->

It actually went down to 30 MW.

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If Chernobyl was a Sonic the hedgehog zone, what would it be like?

Would it be just a zone or a whole game?

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too early

I WANT PICTURES! PICTURES OF REACTOR-CHAN!

true new thread, we don't need 7 of them

new

new

new

Anything that isn't:

>WW2
>Tudor era England
>Americans revolution
>19th century America
>WW1 western front

Computer can I get a printoff of Valery Legasov smiling?

No they weren't. They were pretty slow (I literally made one of the first ones and pretty much hung in them all last week). I'm fine with people enjoying the show, but hard to keep up.

Not that user, but I pretty much agree with him. Yes, that is the book, but the story predates the book. The Terror is supposed to be about these /x/-tier things, so it's understandable why the manbearpig is there, but I still think it would have been a better story without.

is it 300 replies?

There was no lower bound for power generation specified in the test instructions.

Still cant decide if Crozier or Legasov is more my top boy. Jared Harris is based as fuck

Yeah I understand the creator needed to use some artistic license, but it was just unrealistic. Radiation doesn't kill you that fast.

Stellan is Swedish and Harris is English, but I do agree their voices occasionally sound similar.

What’s that on the left

Then what you want is a drama about the Franklin Expedition, you don't want The Terror. The Terror is really just a message about man treading where man isn't supposed to be. The Franklin Expedition is about men treading where men have never gone before.

Completely different tones, completely different stories.

>Russian run an open loop coolant cycle dumping untreated radioactive water directly into a river
you fucking what

it's you

Ulysses S Grant in Lincoln.

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So far in this show nobody has insta died from radiation.

have sex

Exactly. I want a drama about the Franklin Expedition.

Just watched the first episode and holy fug

this really shows how much /got/ has fallen off, they played radiation in one episode 100* better than /got/ played dragons, snow zombies and other shit in the last five seasons.

guess i'm /chernobyl/ now

Spicy bastard. Good call

You missed the helicopter crashing immediately after going above the reactor?

Demon Core. Killed some US scientists.

>Yeah I understand the creator needed to use some artistic license, but it was just unrealistic. Radiation doesn't kill you that fast.
maybe the ionization opened a portal and the pilots were sucked through to another dimension?

You missed the helicopter crashing into a fucking crane hook?

it attracts Yea Forums, /sg/, /sci/, /x/, and /trv/

Mayak

Welcome to the gulag

I doubt anyone other than two anons and myself are from /sg/. The rest of those autists are too busy arguing about mememods.

I said the timing was off. That didn't happen until after many trips.

>why are they lying?
They didn't die of radiation sickness

Three engineers volunteered, Alexei Ananenko (who knew where the valves were), Valeri Bezpalov, and, Boris Baranov, whose job was to hold a submersible light. Their light failed almost immediately, and they were forced to proceed in darkness, often underwater, to find the valves. The sluice gates opened, and the water was drained. All of them returned to the surface and according to Ananenko, their colleagues jumped for joy when they heard they had managed to open the valves. Despite their good condition after completion of the task, all of them suffered from radiation sickness, and later died. Some sources claim incorrectly that they died at the plant.

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Him, maybe, I’d give him 70/30 at most. The baby, no.

>Incredibly stupid and irresponsible thing to do with radiation
Of course it's Mayak. I'm retarded for not instantly guessing that.

You said
>Radiation doesn't kill you that fast.
When nobody in the show even died from radiation yet.

>first scene of this show
isn't this the same guy that hung himself in mad men?
you think he's gonna be typecast as the seppuku guy

The podcast is really comfy

Not him but novel would have been better too if it laid off the fantastic shit. It's good, even really fucking good at times. But but the problem with Tuunbaq isn't CGI, it's that, well, it's a giant polar bear that eats human souls and eventually dies because whites are meanies or some dumb shit. And compared to the rest of the story, the characters, the atmosphere, the ships, the expedition and the historical context, Tuunbaq is, well, a bit retarded and a bit out of place. Wouldn't have minded at all if he wasn't in the novel either.

Lane did nothing wrong.

That was my first thought as well. Only seems to happen when he plays a character in the 20th century though

have sex

Then that's not The Terror, lol. That's just a semi-fictionalized telling of the expedition, which is again, a completely different story with a completely different tone.

I'd like cinnamon toast crunch if it wasn't cinnamon.

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Has the tripfag been banned?

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Not sure, the thing is that imo the characters are much more prevalent and important to the story than the polar bear.
Sure he's here for the moral of the story, the esquimau lore and stuff, but the meat of the novel is really in its charactersand the ships.

desu you could say he continued to kill himself by smoking in the crown

The meat of the novel are the character yes, but the monster is also part of the meat too. The monster is more important than one would think. It gives them more reason to try and remain on the ships, and refrain from doing the jobs they were supposed to do. At that point fuck finding the passage, it's about survival in a land they figuratively and literally shouldn't be in.

Not that we know what the intentions of the crews who left the ships in the actual story, but I'm sure they still considered the possibly of returning home with great news, but in the show it's entirely hopeless for more reason than one.

>when they asked him how it was possible for a RBMK to explode he was dumbfounded
The Ignalina RBMK reactor experienced the same problem during its testing phase but they decided to classify it top secret, so he couldn't tell them without being gulag'd.