Is any form of LGBT representation in children's cartoons a bad thing?

Yes, children can't distinguish between right and wrong.

>never points it out
>shows them just as dysfunctional and dumb as the rest of the parents
It’s probably the best lesbian couple we’ve ever had. People would stop lusting after lesbians if they just made them the average shmucks they mostly are.

Same reason "minorities" are in shows. Same reason ANYTHING is in a show desu.

It's a creative decision usually meant to expose people to things they may not have considered existed before. Sometimes it's incidental in the writing, like background characters, other times it becomes a character trait for one or more the main or supporting cast.

It's probably true that most kids aren't going to internalize it, but the exposure is good for kids that don't completely turn their brains off when watching cartoons.

Heaven forbid animation caters to sensibilities not traditionally branded as "for kids." What kid is going to see a movie for its technical ingenuity, beautifully orchestrated music, stellar (voice)acting, calculated cinematography. Probably not many. But generally most creators would at least like for their audience to be well rounded creatively, intellectually, and socially.

Do you support it and think it should be there in the first place?

>children can't distinguish between right and wrong.
If that were true then there should be more deaths by dynamite and anvils

They definitely can. When I was in elementary school, people definitely already used gay as an insult. 8-10 years old can definitely tell that a child normally has a mom and a father and not two of one.

I am detecting rather excessive quantities of pedophilia from this thread.

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Imagine getting triggered that gay people exist.

Well, consider the alternatives:

>LGBT character exists, and his/her LGBT status is relevant to the plot
Fucking SJWs always pushing agenda in muh children cartoons!

>LGBT character exists, but his/her LGBT status is irrelevant to the plot
Typical SJW pandering, including a faggot/tranny for no reason whatsoever!

You really can't win with those types. I even heard the same arguments about black characters.

Why don't they just make the LGBT characters the main characters? That way, people know what there in for from the start and no one can complain that it is sjw pandering because the main characters being gay is the producers original/desired image. Why is it always? Side characters are gay! Look at how woke we are! Netflix seems to do this all the time. Have straight main characters and then later side characters are gay.

Does Steven Universe count? Seems like half the main cast are lesbians.

>I'm okay with gays as long as they're not in your face about it

it should be subtle instead of obnoxious in your face

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Yeah, that's right. Doesn't mean my definition of "in your face" is the same as yours

Barely gets away. Steven is straight for Connie. Amethyst at one point wanted murdercock. Pearl and Garnet pass the test though.

Just the fact that you think showing homophobia means it would be "strawman" tells me all I need to know. Homophobia exists so why shouldn't it be portrayed?

I think we are the ones that sperg out the most because I can't remember a single cartoon from when I grew up that had LGBT stuff in it, when this generation's kids grow up they won't turn into the soijak strawman, they will be normal people

That's good then. It's kinda like how the only racists you see these days are faggots trying to imitate stuff they saw on /pol/.

Gay people want escapist fiction too, user. I want gay characters to be able to just exist un-commented on rather than eternally being the topic of the Very Special Episode.

Unless you lock your kids in your basement their whole lives they're going to know gay people exist.

I literally do not care about gay relationships in any media. As long as they’re not showing kids sex do whatever you want.

If you weren't a brainwashed retard you wouldn't have to ask this question

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If the main character is LGBT, they'll complain even harder.

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>gay people exist, but i don´t want to remember they do

Any form of LGBT representation in children's cartoons is a good thing.

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Ah you meant that, then yes I absolutely agree with you, I thought you meant that they can only exist in the background and without it ever being pointed out at all.
They should be able to get the same type of characters and fictions straight characters get in my opinion. Sorry.

I was six gay when marriage became legal (2001 in the Netherlands). I remember gay couples appearing on some Dutch kids shows. I had an openly gay teacher when I was nine and a closeted one when I was eleven (or rather a more subtle one). And then more gay teachers in high school. Homosexuality never really seemed like a big deal. I do remember a classmate crying when she told the class about her two moms but no one gave her any shit for it. I think no one cared anymore when we were 14 and that's when gay kids also came out. Hearing in the news about Prop 8 and kids not being allowed at prom was always one of those weird American things. It's weird seeing Americans rile up two moms holding hands when no one over here was riled up about two guys in a kid's educational show being married ten years ago.

She-Ra herself isn't even gay, and her companions are heterosexually paired with one another.

gays don't matter

It's a horrble thing. Faggots are not normal and should not be treated as that. You want your kids to know about anal cancer and anal prolapses? Faggots destroy their bodies and it is not normal to teach kids that and dykes are mentally ill.

Seething

>/pol/ack doesn't know that he lost the culture war

Only if they establish they’re gay very early and not do a, “gotcha they’re gay lmao”.

>muh culture war
Gays are destroying themselves. I'm just saying it's a damn shame about the innocent children of parents who don't give a shit what media they're exposed to.

Ok grandpa

didnt they do that with voltron and korra?

>Amethyst at one point wanted murdercock.
fucking when?

Also pearl might go for the murdercock now apparently.

also it´s a shame being a gay kid with horrible parents who care more about this than their own children

>GARNET STOP BEING GAY IT'S ADAM AND EVE NOT SAPPHIRE AND RUBEVE

then he gets spanked into the stratosphere

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lol you faggots think getting marriages is winning the culture war. LGBT acceptance is getting lower and lower and remember straight people will always out number while you you listen to your echo chamber. The time will come when you faggots will be hunted in the streets.

audibly kek'd

so nobody teach you that killing people is wrong?

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I don't count either of those two. Mainly because the main characters were revealed to be gay ON THE LAST FUCKING SEASON OF THEIR SHOW. Barely any buildup or foreshadowing and boom! Suddenly gay! If your going to make a main character gay ,make em gay from the first season and have some buildup atleast! Jeez!

dubs of truth.

the new SU book has this at the end of it

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youtube.com/watch?v=TB-YfffwEgc

I mean
They were gay in the first season still. They just didn't have same sex love interests until later in the season

>being a gay kid
That does not exist. Faggots only reproduce from pedos.We kill pedoes. No more homos and parents that don't want their kills to be shitting in a diaper at 30 or develop anal cancer and prolapse sound like good parents. Human homosexuality is evil and idiots like you that try to say love is love are horrible.

lol snowflake

lmao, i aint fucking buying that.

wasnt that about both of them missing rose?

Is it bad if I sage and hide this shit thread so I don't have to read all the retarded bait and Yea Forumsmblrtards?

The reason as all the people who replied to you is that they browse tumblr and deviantart and are insanely determined to normalize their shit with your kids

of course its rent-free. they're being forced in there

You seem very concerned about the issue of ravaged anuses. Are you speaking from experience?

Remember that Sugar is one of (((them)))

>"Gender Expansive"

Oh do fuck off.

You are an adult then fine mess with your life however you see fit. It's yours.

But doing this to kids with the aid of some quack of a doctor. That's just wrong.

imagine being so sensitive that you have to come into this thread to whine about it existing

lol, gays know what they are when they are still little, most just are in denial because what people might think.

also the last time i checked homos are born from straight people

Age-appropriateness has nothing to do with it really. Kids see heterosexual couples from the time they first see cartoons, and they have been in cartoons from the beginning, and that has a sexual component. You simply don’t show the sexual component, just the couple.

The book is actually pretty cute. White Diamond complains on almost every page that you're not reading it 'the right way', which is straight

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i think it's gay

but seriously i think it's the leftist mindset that they have to present everyone in media and as other leftists have told me the use of it is the change the perception of those people by normalization

it's why the same people talk about absurd normalization, i presume that they are a bunch of burnt out intersectionalits that took soc 100 and think the most important socializer is the media

i'd just rather they focused on quality rather than ideological purity.
it's been one of the largest annoyances i've had with the bourgeoisie socialists or worse Trotskists that make up the intersectionalists, it's not about the people it's about the carefully regulated identity distinctions.
they're toss

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there was no hint they were gay. it also wasn't in the series bible. have a nice retconned day!

Because higher ups are still uncomfortable with LGBT stuff even when the creators are okay with it.

Yes, because it always shows it exclusively a as positive thing when in reality it is far more often a negative, abusive setup. They want to be represented, but they don't want to be represented correctly.

Meanwhile every "normal" family from Simpsons to Bob's Burgers and Family Guy is dysfunctional to a greater or lesser degree. But can you imagine a show giving a gay family the same treatment? Absolutely fucking not. The absolute closest were the bickering gay couple in Mission Hill, which I am sure is extremely problematic by today's standards.

If all you want is positive representation, you shouldn't get any at all.

It would explain why he sounds so assblasted.

Definitely seething

Everything but the T. the T is a bit complicated even for us adults.

>closet clown
>subtle
Yeah maybe if you're a child in the 90s.

There were no hints that they WEREN'T gay. It also wasn't show in the series bible that they WEREN'T gay. Have a nice day, and maybe learn what a retcon is!

It was, user is just stupid.

I lock my kids in the basement NAKED and I put a cross in front of them and masturbate them until they associate Jesus with orgasms.

If were talking about LGBT mains being gay from the start, I'd want something like this. Just have the buildup. All I ask.

youtube.com/watch?v=2REkk9SCRn0

kinda agree with this, but as long people dont think these characters are "special" they will not give them the same treatment.

>>letting trannies and gays live in your head rent free
If people with clear ideological/political motivations like Kate Leth and Rebecca Sugar among many many others are making cartoons, it's not necessarily the fault of the viewer if they notice or question the ideology being pushed on them.

>being a gay kid
Yup. Because that totally happens naturally. No cultural influence involved whatsoever.

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Well that and Loud House where they are neurotic messes that transfer that shit onto Clyde.

Oh look, it's an SJW spouting hyper-literalism. Never seen that before.

>They want to be represented, but they don't want to be represented correctly.
Don't just assume everyone wants the same. That's stupid.

>culture makes you gay
lmao. That's why you're acting like that?

Doesn't Clyde want to marry Lori?

yesa. because a normal person hangs up the idea of becoming a degenerate and grows a Personality; gains things to do with his existence besides cultivate a self-referential persecution complex
>believing what Society tells you about what happens in the world

Reminder that /lgbt/ is a blue board on 4channel so it is safe but /pol/ isn't.

Not really for the 40% of people who are bisexual.

not an argument, faggot

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gender roles are also a cultural influence

He's more Obsessed with her than anything to the point where I fear he'll end up wearing someones skin when he gets older. Be it Lori's or Bobby's its a toss up.

>t. Homos that joke because they know deep down they are disgusting.
Why do faggots always joke when the serious medical problems of homosexuality are ever brought up in conversation. It's hilarious. It shows what they really are.

most children really care about what others says about them

as it should be

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>make one of the lesbians so butch she can pass off as male in countries where such relationships are banned or frowned upon

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it could work

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To an extent. Generally speaking though, men are made to toil in the field, women are for caring for the man's children and serving the man.

Dialate

that´s probably why they exist you know, if a a gay kid acts sissy its becuase they want to imitate the other gender.

Are forced to wear a diaper becuase of permanent butthurt? It's okay, you can admit it. No judging here.

>men are made to toil in the field

I love it when trad incels speak like fucking Dungeons and Dragons NPCs in an effort to sound authoritative. It's cute.

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Again, not an argument, fag

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Mixing in a little extra spice to a setting is fine, but it seems like literally every one of these shows like to save a makeout scene for the last episode, then give them two minutes, a spotlight and their own song to go with it while all the other characters stop their mass extinction to clap.
Clarence did it well, same as [PASTEL HORSE SHOW], and OKKO.

Side note, fuck it when LGB+ stuff goes over relatively smoothly inside the show itself, but the creators of the show go on some stupid weeklong tirade about how honored they are for the opportunity to add said LGB+ stuff to the show.

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Which book is this? I REALLY like that gimmick

abramsbooks.com/product/steven-universe-the-tale-of-steven_9781419741487/

You realize some of those 3-10 year olds have two moms or two dads right?

It shouldn't be seen as something inappropriate because it ISN'T.

What I don't like is when it's pandering. Compare The Loud House's gay couple compared to anything in SU. Loud House was written well so the characters are "This kids parents but they just happen to both be dads" versus SU's "ACCEPTANCE" bullshit that's so hamfisted and shoved down your throat.

Sex the one that doesn't have a counter argument and has to resort to posting shitty Facebook memes that only dumb old people use.

I was having gay thoughts when I was 6 and I didn't even know what it was. It just happens, bro

same, i wont say you born with it but definetly develops at an early life stage

>*Sez*

Thanks a lot!

Ok? Why does it have to be in a cartoon thou? What 5 year old is gonna know anything about "sexuality"? If anything it's gonna make them question shit more and more.

There's more dimensions to LGBT than sex.

5 year-olds learn that the Charming Prince loved Rapunzel/Cinderella/Sleeping Beauty, but nobody complains about fairytales exposing children to 'sexual themes'.

the cartoons who have lgbtq charas aren't for preschoolers though

Ok? And there are people that are half Italian and people that are bald. Does that mean EVERY media must have an italian or bald person represented in a show?

This entire thread is a moot point. Everybody close Yea Forums, shut down your computer/phone, and cry to your parents for a bit. You deserve it.

No you are just a fag that didnt grow up in a two parent house and didnt talk to girls.

Plus molested by an Uncle or Cousin.

No hint user here.
I am not a SJW. I was saying that the shitty writers made them gay later.

Would you have this problem with boy characters having girlfriends and kids having mom's and dads?

if not you're just a homophobe.

>Dumb user thinks we need to shut the thread down because nobody is agreeing with his point
Fuck off hivemind faggot.

i have a dad and a mom, and definetly spend a lot of time with girls when i was young.

You really are convinced people need to be molested to be gay huh?

Look faggot, because it's obvious your are gay or bi, relationships and dating and other political ideas have no business being in a "kids" cartoon.

All kids want is action and humor and just stuff the looks cool. Period and fact.

My mom and dad told me they’d accept me no matter what, and they were surprised when I came out but still supportive. And yeah I didnt talk to too many girls because they made me nervous and I didn’t understand crushes, I liked to hang out with the boys.

You clearly were. Plus you didnt deny it either.

>can't spell dilate correctly
seethe tranny

>kids are dumb and they shouldn't question shit!
Literally the mindset of a person who advocates childhood brainwashing.

More like Anal-Expansive

>relationships and dating and other political ideas have no business being in a "kids" cartoon.

the fuck are you talking, a lot of kids media have romance (mostly disney) and simple political messages.

Nigger I dont know what dilate means. Why are you so obsessed with trannies that you do?

There are no gay children
Just gay parents

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>gay community builds their culture around promiscuity, anti-societal views, drug use and being the cause of the AIDs epidemic
>Hurr why are you afraid of gays, bigots!

ok retard, i was not

if it helps you i never had any kind of sexual relationship in my life

dilate is what trannies do to keep their fake vagina from closing up

that´s what you people expect gay to do

Fucking triggered, much?

Gender-dilative

>I dont know what dilate means
It's a pretty basic English word. ESL?

For the same reason native american and afro american characters are shown in kids shows: Tolerance. It's way easier to show a child that gays exist than an adult.

Then when they grow up with a bit of luck they could have a better understanding of how they world works without prejuice

Technically both negative and positive representation of lgbt exists in animation, so whether you approve of it or not, there’s a right and wrong way of doing it. I guess if you’re truly neutral and don’t care at all, that’s the only way it doesn’t matter.

Here’s an example of an anti-gay cartoon that still acknowledges gay people exist:
youtu.be/BsO_weBbYPk

Stereotypes come from some form of truth. When homosexuality was still underground no one was forcing them to get into drugs or having +100 partners. When they marched for acknowledgment no one told them to dress like flaming queers and basically prove to heteros that gays were a subversive counter-culture that would never properly normalize.

This, just from reading this thread, I can already see the problem with people who aren't educated on sexuality early on.

Or maybe he's not obsessed with post-op trannies?

It's grade school English.
dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/dilate
Literally it's just widening a hole or opening. The word is most assuredly not exclusive to discussing anything to do with trannies. In fact, up until just a few years ago, you'd probably hear the word used in description of stoners; as in, dilated pupils. You've never heard that word used that way before?

It's almost like when you ostracize a group of people for a few centuries they don't tend to conform with your societal views. Weird, huh?

>When homosexuality was still underground no one was forcing them to get into drugs or having +100 partners.

Homophobia made them take that lifestyle, most of them couldn't have a proper couple for social stigma and also the rejection made them prone to the use of drugs and abuse of antidepressants.

Sugar doesn't have a political motivations she's just a bad writter.

>Stereotypes
Speaking of them, when are we going to see the return of the hippies? The world is literally burning right now but the eco friendly Chad's are nowhere to be seen. Where did they go?

I disagree. See as one example.

Shut the fuck up dyke.

This shit makes me so mad in so many levels, not because the gay children, but the bland plot, boring animation and victimization.

Not to mention some guy had a crush on me during high school and it wasn't cute, it was fucking unconfortable.

>T-triggered.

>When homosexuality was still underground no one was forcing them to get into drugs or having +100 partners

I suppose you think “nobody was forcing” alcohol drinkers to associate with violent gangs during the prohibition era either.

I believe kids should find out these things for themselves to be honest.
Hell, Kingdom hearts told me everything about Homosexuals a shit.
Poor child me never knew the consequences of typing down Sora and Riku.

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just saying everything had its cause, also im not a woman lol

You think you have it bad!? Imagine all the poor chaps who typed in Sonic and Shadow! We can only imagine the impure furry yaoi hellscape that DeviantArt showed them...

we all know that feel, gaybro

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Not him.
Objectively speaking prohibition reduced the consumption of alcohol. And to be honest, the only people forced to deal with the mob during prohibition were alcoholic. Who were forced to drink alcohol either legally or illegally. So without a dependence on alcohol, nobody was forcing them. Of course, a physical dependence on alcohol is bad regardless of the legality of the substance.

>mfw I learned about kim/shego on deviantart as a kid

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remember when LGBT representation was simply something odd in Western Animation and was less of a subject to being censored outside of the USA?

I have never heard the word dilate used in casual conversation or in any other context. If it just means widen, use widen.

>I have never heard the word dilate used in casual conversation or in any other context.
That's surprising to me.
Again, the context it's most often used in is medical, typical. Like I said, you'll probably hear it in terms of dilated pupils.
It's extremely common in this context user. Like, I have a hard time believing you've never heard it it's so common.

For me it was Yugi and Seto Kaiba.

Seconded

I remember being into men when I was 4. I saw male nudity scenes and there was something on them that make me rewind them

>Cartoons r 4kids
Leave this board and don't return

I shit you not, I've never heard the word dilate until it was used as an insult. Like I said, they just used wide in those scenarios. For your drug example, they just told us wide pupils in those high school assemblies.

I remember being so scared the first time I saw tits on TV. But it was mostly because my parents FREAKED out and ushered my brothers and I into the other room, telling us we couldn't watch the show anymore. I always felt like a freak for wanting to see more

Batman x Superman is still to this day the biggest gateway into the big gay.

that´s why is nice to feel people like usare accepted, specially in those early life stages

Well it's strange to me, but certainly not impossible for sure I suppose.

As long as it's just lgbt relationships and not straight up porn, I see no problems.

Not that user, but I can't help but feel there's been confusion between what's education and parenting, and entertainment.
Entertainment I feel has no duty to do anything but what the creator feels fit to. If the creator wants to educate, that's fine but I feel that trying to imply it's necessary or even outright insist on it I feel is a mistake. There's nothing immoral about a cartoon that remains just a cartoon. Similarly so if someone wants to make a cartoon they want to spread a message with. But again, that should be up to the director/creator's discretion. Not from social pressure.

NEVER seen any kid media with some kind of gay porn

The less you seethe about LGBT representation, the less people will feel the need to include it. Nobody reps redheads or gets mad about their inclusion, they're just there and kinda hot.

I agree, it's up to the creator what story they want to tell. And if that story involves an lgbt person, it should come naturally rather than being forced and paraded like a big victory. And I say this as a gay person.

That's exactly the point that I am making. People act like it's showing some kind of horribly crass display whenever there is a lgbt character or relationship in any kind of media that is appropriate for children, when it should be perfectly acceptable.

youtube.com/watch?v=MWQahyKZC3s

Disgusting

>dancing is now a sexual act

youtube.com/watch?v=eBf7zhtcczM
Disgusting

More or less. I just feel that moral values and education should come from family. Why it's NOT coming from family and instead is being learned through media is another matter entirely and a debate we could engage in for a long time but that would be a segue that's even more off topic than this one. Suffice to say: I don't believe that art has a social obligation to be a positive or negative message unless that's what the creator wants it to be.

agree, that´s why i find odd when i heard that modern cartoon are indoctrinating children, if that the case with someone it´s because their parents left them

At least that's softcore.

youtube.com/watch?v=Se59TQna2Oo

idk, that one from symbiotic titan looks very sugestive to me

kids brush off just about everything they don't understand.
they are quite resilient and really don't care about much.

pretty much everything is sexual...to someone

Could be, or the parents just are middle or lower class and they both need to work. Meaning they're never home. With no one at home to raise the children that leads to all sorts of problems, a strong support structure being pretty key to a child's development. You could blame that on all sorts of things, but suffice to say it's hard to pin it on any one thing. Parents are becoming increasingly missing from children's lives and it's starting to have some adverse effects in their development, I think.

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yes,any other question?

dancing isn't just dancing retard

there are sexual/sensual dances

yeah but this was not

Wow, an apology after realizing the misunderstanding that occurred? On my Yea Forums?

Also known as pulling a Rowling.

Are any representations of unwed young maidens in to-day’s moving light show cinema a goode thing?

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I think it's a transitional thing. You need to start with showing them as harmless before you can start humanizing them.

if they say they have any big defect people will asume every gay will be like that

>Gender expansion
When do is the eventually heat death of the genders?

Exactly. Give it a generation and they'll get to have incompetent, jerkish or straight up evil gays in cartoons.

>Is any form of LGBT representation in children's cartoons a bad thing?

No. What is important is what it is motivated by. Many people see the inclusion of LGBT people in shows as a marketing ploy. What do I mean by that? What I mean is that a lot of studios inject LGBT elements into their stories, not because they care or anything, but because they want their show to be seen as inclusive. If not, people may complain, and their show will be labeled as homophobic, transphobic, etc. on social media. This is bad press and so shows will dash a bit of gayness into a show so it can get good press.

They'll rarely make a main character LGBT though. Even, Steven Universe, regarded as one of the gayest cartoons ever made, has their protagonist in a hetero relationship. That would be more of problem, but Connie is not white, so that gets a pass. :)

might as well say that we're all homestuck trolls if you're going to come up with that idea
why exactly do you think "you said i'm annoying so i'm going to do it more" is some kind of trump card. it's a playground thing. remember what embarrassment is

yes

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>why exactly do you think "you said i'm annoying so i'm going to do it more" is some kind of trump card
Different user:
Because that's how people behave on the internet.
If I were to say, "golly jeepers, I sure hope nobody posts mermaids, I'd be super offended," what do you think people would do?
And why do you think reverse psychology is such a thing?

is "stop hitting yourself" some kind of epic move to you too? do you think you'll get places in life by going and doing that every time someone thinks you're kind of a fool, thus removing the notable doubt
honestly, we live on a planet of people who never grow up don't we

I remember when same-sex relationships in animated series was portrayed casually like it was something for rednecks thus it was less of a subject to being censored in several countries

>is "stop hitting yourself" some kind of epic move to you too? do you think you'll get places in life by going and doing that every time someone thinks you're kind of a fool,
No, not at all.
But this should be stating the obvious. If you tell a large enough number of people on an open forum or in this case image board exactly what aggravates you, you're virtually inviting people to do exactly that just to get a rise out of you.

4 percent

if the best thing you can say to defend your entire political worldview is that it's stupid sounding and you will annoy people if you talk about it a lot, it sounds like you're looking at the end of the road for that worldview.

You mistake me for someone else, user.
I'm not defending that worldview at all or making any statement about it. Simply stating the obvious human behavior that explains why people troll. If we're being honest here, most people who troll don't believe the nonsense they spout. Only understand it enough to repeat it and annoy people who get upset at it.
I.E. pretending to be retarded to get people angry. People do this because they find it funny. And if we're being honest, that's not too terribly wrong.

4% of 40%

LGBT representation does not exist to annoy you. Hard to wrap your head around, I know.

Not him, but I would assume it would be safe to say no small number of people post about it or do use it simply to annoy people.
As in trolls.

fun fact: 50% of lesbian relationships involve some form of abuse.

46% of adult gay men were molested by men as children. Homosexuality is not something people grow into naturally, it is the result of some form of trauma most often (single parent, abusive household, etc)

We're talking about LGBT representation in cartoons. I guarantee SU or whatever is not trying to troll you.

>We're talking about LGBT representation in cartoons.
I must've gotten lost in the conversation. My mistake. I thought we were talking about the discussion in general on Yea Forums. Sorry about that user.

Which is it, are lgbts oppressed mistreated minorities or are they winners of the culture war imposing their will?

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93.76% of people who post made up stats are closet homosexuals.

Oh yes, it is society's harmful ostracization of gay people that causes 40% of child molestation to be same-sex.

Of course how could I not see that? :C

For me it was Gundam Wing characters. Didn't even know two men could have sex until Google showed 10 year old me yaoi.

Nah. There just obnoxious incels

Source: my ass

So what you're saying is that 60% of child molestation is heterosexual?

So what you're saying namefag is despite being only 10% of the population, homosexuals are responsible for 40% of child rape?

Say what you will, I'll gladly take SU over TLH anyday

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11501300
>Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation. Twenty-two percent of lesbian women in contrast to 1% of heterosexual women reported homosexual molestation
>National library of medicine, what is that some kinda homophobic nazi source??

>URRRR YOU HAVE A CRITICISM OF LIFESTYLE AND HARMFUL ASPECTS OF IT? THAT MEAN YOU ACTUALLY ARE!

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Yes, the bulk of 97% of the population commits only 10% more child molestation than a segment of 2-3% of the population

>Article from almost 20 years of release

It's creepy and propagandistic like chic tracks, it's trying to portray behaviors and mental states which are abnormal as something which should not only be tolerated but accepted happily and encouraged. This isn't meant to say that I have a hatred or fundamental dislike for the gays or trannies, but I think their behaviors are far out of the norm and many of them suffer from mental illnesses, and I also believe that it is wrong, irresponsible, and harmful to those people to convince them (and pressure everyone else around them to confirm) that they're A-OK and their problems don't actually exist. Repressing and normalizing mental illness doesn't actually do anything to cure or treat it, it's the social equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and humming.

I also think it's deeply creepy and fucked up that a good number of artists from these shows talk about how they're making their content because they essentially want to run sex/gender psychology experiments on kids, I think they're fucked in the head and shouldn't be allowed around children.

God, why are breeders so evil and degenerate?

>That's a FAKE statistic!!!
posts source
>THAT STATISTIC IS A COUPLE YEARS TOO OLD TO BE RELEVANT!!!

If someone attempted to replicate a similar study today their career would be over because lgbt activists refuse to address internal problems, much like the catholic church does

Do you not know how statistics work? That means that IF the population of homosexuals was equivalent to that of normal people, the rate of molestation would be the same.

That's a very nice idea.

In theory.

But all throughout the 90's, we had a "Girl power!" phase to rid of girly stereotypes and normalize girls being able to do the same things as boys. And what happened? We went two steps backwards as now people are obsessed with "non-binary" labels and use it to describe any girl who DOESN'T wear a frilly dress. The whole, "You're a girl no matter what you're into" idea that was aggressively pushed failed so fucking hard and now there's even more of a distinct line in the sand. People also act as if a strong girl character is an anomaly despite growing up with a fuck ton of them.

So the whole idea that cartoons will normalize shit even though the current generation of creators grew up on something and act like the total opposite of those lessons isn't really one I can buy anymore.

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25942288

Gee, how shall I interpret this seeming contradiction

LGBT aren't people tho

>IF the population of homosexuals was equivalent to that of normal people, the rate of molestation would be the same.
what is per capita

2% committing 40% is a 20x OVER-representation.
If the population was 50/50
homosexual/straight, gays would commit 20 times more child molestation than the other half of the population

Okay then, how do you explain the other 54%? Magic? Cultural influences? Just doing what's cool to do?

No.

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this is comparing between bisexuals and homosexuals dude not between homosexuals and heterosexuals, and doesn't even link the 65 apparent citations
read your own sources before embarrassing yourself

Why are you trying to deflect the criticism? Why not just accept that the LGBTQQIAP(edophile)++123XYZ community objectively commits an enormously abnormal level of child abuse, and consider how such a serious issue might be addressed? Nobody is arguing that any child abuse is OK, user is pointing out to you that the non-straight communities have an absolutely colossal over-representation in the commission of this horrible crime.

Compared to these scrub janky ass moms, are a disgrace. The big one got beaten up by warm cheese in the storm arc part 4. They were making fun of her, and that's not representive to being with.

Other types of trauma that aren't related to sexual abuse
eg. abusive parents, single parent households, harassment, discovering pornography at a young age

They're one supreme court justice away from losing marriage rights.

What you mean one more justice after the last two who in spite of supposedly being the harbingers of the era of Republican shariah refused to touch any of civil rights decisions with a ten foot pole?

that´s pretty dumb, any field of researching needs to be in constant study. If your source is outdated by a lot of years really make any statement suspicious.

also
>THE LGBT AGENDA IS CONTROLLING THESE RESEARCHS, THATS WHY I CANNOT GIVE YOU A RECENT STUDY THAT VALIDATES MY INTELECTUAL TAKE

Hidden ass Agendas & Undercover Propagandas. Those people must die, for a good sake.

I never had any of these things and still im an homo

but they do own research

yeah, all the scientist and researchers i know are gay

that's like saying we're 2 supreme court justices away from losing gun rights. It's dumb fearmongering and not an actual example of repression
next

There are studies from the 80s and earlier which still dictate modern knowledge and claiming that something is OUT OF DATE!!! for being less than 2 decades old means you don't understand how research like this works

and lgbts aren't controlling the research, but they are willing to harass and bully researchers who investigate such subjects, moreover there is no data which refutes it. Why would someone walk on thin ice by opening that pandoras box when they can touch less charged issues?

which ones? interesting you didn´t mention a single one

Thanks, Obama!

that's pretty common knowledge, not every single study can be constantly updated and something done with a group of 500+ is usually taken as definitive until proven otherwise.

Studies don't go 'bad' like a banana becoming overripe, and 18 years is hardly close to 'out of date'
the gish-galloping shit isn't helping you seem more reasonable

You ever think Becky gets tired of subverting? Like one day, she's all, "Feh. I don't feel like messing with goys today. Maybe I'll lend a hand at the local soup kitchen."

LGBT shit is okay, repeatedly patting yourself on the back and shove it to other people's face everytime you put LGBT in your shit isn't

Literally this

youtube.com/watch?v=e3h6es6zh1c

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>Also pearl might go for the murdercock now apparently
Sweet

As long as you don't paint your characters as being superheroes simply because they like to take dick up the ass or randomly turn a character gay for brownie points even though there was no "experimenting" build up leading up to that sudden change, you'll be fine.

Clarence was good because Jeff's moms have a relationship with their son and the fact that it's two moms is incidental similar to how Sumo having a mom and dad is incidental. Sumo being poor and Jeff having a decent upbringing takes more precedent than how many moms and dads these characters have.

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Fuck this all reminds me of a memory where people from like 3rd or 4th grade bullied some homosexual girl in the classroom.
I didn't participate in it, but damn, kids are cruel.

Don't have the same filters and such that adults do. Bless em for it

>3rd or 4th
>homosexual girl
Straight by highschool, don't feel so bad.

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>Still doesn't mention one

wow you sure changed my mind

It is when its treated as normal and healthy, like in Clarence or Twelve Forever. Not when its for the brownie point marketing stunts like Legend of Korra or 76 from Overwatch. When a fictional character being gay is a twist or surprise it hardly ever goes well if at all.

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>When the damage control goes so bad you have to make a character gay to fix the issue.
Blizzard man, not even once.

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Why should any form of a relationship be shown in a kids show if its not the main focus?

>make S76 gay so they can get more publicity for their dying game and it worked for the week Tracer was announced gay
I will never forgive them for doing that, the game has no extended lore for 3 years and then out of nowhere its "HE'S GAY GUYS" is the worst possible way to do a gay character. I would have no problem if he was gay from the get-go but doing it the way they did it was such a fucking joke.

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Only when it's done subtly and never truly pointed out like how Clarence did it. And not
>"WOW LOOK WERE SO GAY CAN WE GET OUR CIVIL RIGHTS BROWNIE POINT PAT ON THE BACK NOW?!?!?! W-w-WHERE HIP AND COOL RIGHT?!?!?!?"
I mean unless you wanna make it a plot point with themes of insecurity you can just dont make your story horribly written and preachy.

This is the stupidest thing I've read in several days, congratulations.

yes. please stop asking.

Shit, I wish I was 2010s kid, so I can avoid all the LGBT bullshit and deal with something awesome like aliens or future wars.

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>gay "people"

ewwww dont humanize them

Only the positive kind

>being gay before you even hit puberty
She deserved it

its mostly just L
lesbians are so overused at this point because they're marketable, its crystal-clear whenever they're stuck in for brownie points as opposed to actually making a legitimate effort

It is because it's against THE LORD's word, just like cartoon themselves actually.

Why are we letting television raise our kids?

So what is with some of these fags trying to claim that kids will ask questions once they see gays in cartoons as if it's a complicated thing to explain? I mean when I learned about gays I just was all "Hey auntie, what are gay people?" "They are boys who like boys like boyfriend and girlfriend and there are girls who like girls boyfriend and girlfriend, they are called lesbians." "Oh, ok." I mean it's easy as hell to explain.

Why are we letting television determine our moral values?

The creator basically just said, "lol nope not gay."
Also the show is pretty great.

A clear separation of roles makes for a healthy team, i.e. the nuclear family.

>a couple of years
are you fucking retarded?
THIS SHIT WAS PUBLISHED MORE THAN A FUCKING DECADE BEFORE GAY MARRIGE WAS MADE LEGAL
THERE ARE PEOPLE OF LEGAL AGE WHO WERE BORN WHEN THIS WAS MADE

I mean it's easy to explain bondage and sex too.

" what is Bondage?"
"It's something that big people do to make them happy, just like kissing and hugging."

Don't you know its the hippest thing around to larp like a retarded pearl clutching soccer mom?

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No, because being attracted to someone doesn't mean you have to show hardcore sex scenes.
It's showing kids that different concepts are okay as long as it's consensual.

I can't wait until Pedophilia is legal.
All consensual of course.

>conflating a simple romantic relationship with a sexual act
God i hate you guys so fucking much.

>complains about victimization
>next sentence is whining about being a victim
Dude get some self awareness

No as long as the lgbt arent main characters or supporting cast

So not a kids parents, but the kids neighbor or friends cousin or some shit

I see you are trying to equate seeing two men or two women give each other a smooch in public like the way straight couples can do no problem with people tying each other up behind closed doors and getting freaky. Oh wait, according to people like you, only straight couples ever get to show any sort of affection for each other.

just because you´re see gay people as something outside your life doesn´t mean is similar to pedos. Retard

>conflating two consenting adults who are doing the same things straight couples do only its the same sex to child molestation that actively harms a child
God i fucking hate you.

>as it is teaching the children not to spaz out over something they don't understand.
and what happens if they spaz out at something they do understand?

B&RP

I just saying.

It's easy to explain everything with how you explain it.

>why exactly do you think "you said i'm annoying so i'm going to do it more" is some kind of trump card. it's a playground thing. remember what embarrassment is
Aren't you embarrassed to be a sperg who gets triggered at gays existing in things?

You are just trying to generate disgust of gays by equating two men or two women kissing as if that is something so lewd that it can be equated to bondage. I could easily say that maybe the problem is with you and how you instantly turn the sight of such things into a lewd sexual act but I will not. I will just say that public displays of affection are nowhere near the same level as tying someone up and giving them a spanking or whatever for a jolly.

I am not even angry. I am just making fun of his example.

Jesus fucking christ, faggets are so fragile.

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Not him but your reply shows a level of fragility

>Gender-Expansive
pff.. I bet Dobson is elated.

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I had an aunt do that a few thanksgivings ago. Man that was a fun conversation.
>WHAT'S STOPPING SOMEONE FROM MARRYING A BABY, OR A DOG?
Consent you dumb fuck

Whatever bro.

What are you, a fucking JRPG character now? I'm surprised you didn't include ellipses.

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>implying the dog don't want it.

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I like the way shows such as Clarence and Mission Hill did it. Just show the homosexual characters as individuals who happen to be gay. I don't get what's so difficult or controversial about that.

> I don't get what's so difficult or controversial about that.
Well when Arthur tried that twice it resulted in bannings.

Maybe something about it being PBS is why?

You trying too hard to bait.

>representation in media is important
>a character is only compelling if they’re like me

My favorite character is a Jewish rock monster and a Jewish sun god from smallville, I’m just a fat white guy from the south with nothing in common with these characters

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Well yes that is the reasoning, but I don't see why that matters.

Neither do I, just saying that may be the offended people's logic.

>a character is only compelling if they’re like me
Who are you quoting?

that how most people are, he is fat ugly probably you relate to that

Specifically, the episode with the lesbian moms was pulled because PBS had their funding threatened.

That’s the basic thing with why queers want queer characters etc

You're talking to a gayfag and I enjoy plenty of characters who are nothing like me. That doesn't mean I think no gay characters should ever be created; however, your generalization is dumb.

I don't recall what ben grimm looked like before his rock-manification. I don't know if he's fat because fat or because rock-manification covered him in rock.

Why are you fat?

>I'm not like this, so no one is

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If it is entertaining, it is fine. If it is not, it has failed. Since zoomer fags can't take a joke anymore, there has been a lot of fails.

I'm someone else.
Also no.

Do you know many orange rockmen, user?

Right now I found it:
nbcnews.com/id/6869976/ns/us_news-education/t/education-chief-rips-pbs-gay-character/

>Education Secretary Margaret Spellings said the “Sugartime!” episode does not fulfill the intent Congress had in mind for programming. By law, she said, any funded shows must give top attention to “research-based educational objectives, content and materials.”

>“Many parents would not want their young children exposed to the lifestyles portrayed in the episode,” Spellings wrote in a letter sent Tuesday to Pat Mitchell, president and chief executive officer of PBS.

>“Congress’ and the Department’s purpose in funding this programming certainly was not to introduce this kind of subject matter to children, particularly through the powerful and intimate medium of television.”

>She asked PBS to consider refunding the money it spent on the episode.

>In closing, she warned: “You can be assured that in the future the department will be more clear as to its expectations for any future programming that it funds.”

Literal soccer mom shit

>"I want to be represented in entertainment media! It's one of the most important things in the world to me!"
Vain cries of a fragile ego.

I would define fragile as chimping out at any fags showing up in shows but that's just me, chief.

This

thats why people shit themselves when they knew about black Ariel

redhead genocide is a real thing!

>My favorite character is a Jewish rock monster
So a golem? How can you reduce your favorite character to a meme description and still not get the irony behind your words?

It feels great that I know that media has no effects on anything or anyone and no matter how hard something is shilled or often it'll never actually convince anyone to become a said thing. Like
Violent video games and movies
Every artist who tried to stop the Vietnam war
convincing Japanese people to start families
and many others

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Underrated post.

>It feels great that I know that media has no effects on anything or anyone and no matter how hard something is shilled or often it'll never actually convince anyone to become a said thing

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Yeah, I dont want to normalize faggots.
So what, they're human like the rest of us. That more of a danger then by letting a bunch more selfish, greedy, prideful, jealous degenerates have a say in society.

Imagine a bunch of men and women trying to get together, then the alphabet soup shows up. Some fag, or worse a tranny, cock blocks you, well let's be civil, keeps you from talking to anyone else, because they must have you. Can turn them down, because that makes you a bigot. Guess what, your friend is a fag and has been giving you shit advice to try to turn you gay. Fags do this all the time.

The whole dating scene turns to mush because a bunch of fags got to throw into the mix.

No, normalizing them is asking for disaster.

dyslexia
let me rephrase that
Media has no effects on people and no matter how often some ideology is "Shilled" it will never convinve a person to become said thing.

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Media, certainly, can influence people. To the scale of what it can do is greatly overrated.
Generally speaking media is good at reinforcing ideas people already have, not always converting those to something.

Generally speaking media can "convert" people because culture, in general, shifts. Not because the media did it directly.

little late on that champ

I grew up watching things like Conan the Adventurer and Johnny Quest, I didn't realize I was gay until I was in 7th grade, but I always had an attraction to men even when I was too young to articulate what sexuality and attraction was at the time. I remember growing up as a kid, other little boys love boobies and I'm sure many of those dudes grew up to screw bitches. I can understand how people develop, and I think the worst thing that can happen is actively censoring out LGBT representation, as well as censoring public display of heteronormativity, conflict and violence. Children need to know that certain types of people exist as much as they need to know about all of the important issues of our world. And those children may either accept those people, reject them, or laugh at them, as any kid even without an adult influence will unfortunately do.