Zack Snyder is gone

>Zack Snyder is gone
>Affleck is gone
>My man Henry Cavill is almost gone
>Patti Jenkins exists
>James Wan is here
>David Sandberg is a thing
>The DCEU has turned into lighthearted shit and my gritty, kino DCEU is gone
>Suicide Squad was just a sequel to BvS that become a big thing but we hoped a remake would have just be edgier
>James Fucking Gunn is turning Suicide Squad into a lighthearted shit
>Gunn that made my boy Drax into a generic hero that want to avenge is family instead of the bio-android that live just and only for killing Thanos.
>That turned Star-Lord into a generic space-man instead of the serious Space-Cop he was.
>Made Mantis a generic maiden when in the comics she is the grandmistress of Pama
>Now it's about SuicideSquad being heroic
>King Shark for reasons
>And characters that aren't related to Suicide Squad
>And now Taika Waititi
>that turned Hela into a sex fap joke for incels
>Ignored Sif and comic Valkyrie
>Ignored what Mjolnir is and why Hela couldn't broke it
>Taika is now going to have a part in this movie
>Because we deserve another horrible lighthearted DC film!
>Nothing that will make you think about politics or the real world but something funny!
>We will get funny movies and standalones! Because it's the only thing we didn't wanted and Snyder was trying (and succeeding) to not do!
>Zack Snyder, the only man that made superhero films instead of superhero movies is gone

You know what? FUCK THIS!
After Batman vs Superman I was excited for the DCEU, I was having something different: epicness.
But after BvS we just got bad movies, not as epic as the Snyderverse and as bad as average marvel movies
And now we're getting Joker that looks good but it's a standalone, James Gunn's Suicide Squad that I know will be bad, Birds Of Prey that must be killed, Matt Reeves Batman that I swear I will boycott, Ava Duvernay's New Gods that must be aborted.
It's the end, the DCEU is dead to me. I will just live in my DCEU Snyderverse fanfic and be happy.

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Then Suicide Squad come out and was...okay, but was the only bad movie of the DCEU, so I ignored it.
But then Patti Jenkins destroyed Wonder Woman's story and made her the most generic heroine ever just for a battle with Ares when not adding him would have been better, made the Amazons primitive even if they created the Invisible Jet and the Swan Planes and the Mental Radio. And I tried to forgive it by realizing that Jenkins didn't wanted it to be related with the DCEU but being just a boring movie. And so I moved on hoping Zack Snyder's WW would have been better.
Then WB and Joss Whedon destroyed the poor Zack Snyder's Justice League because he was a fucking human who was sad that his daughter died. I can't forgive that, I was destroyed, angry and sad because I still want to see Snyder's JL today and nothing else.
Then Aquaman arrived, and it was good that at least was about politics and racism, but was lighthearted, and James Wan didn't wanted to connected it to the DCEU because he was weak. And I wasn't even that angry because it was slightly enjoyable, but still mad that wasn't related to the Snyderverse, and I tried to have still some hopes for the DC films.
Then that Shazam! movie came out, and it was crappy as a lighthearted and funny superhero movie would be, stupid, boring, without realism, that leave you nothing, it was just Tom Hanks Big but with a superhero. The realistic tone destroyed, little children loving Superman when he is considered an alien terrorist, Batman called the caped crusader when he is the Dark Knight that lost faith in humanity, toys about Batman and Superman, a wizard that doesn't make sense, a villain that ruined Sivana's name. Geoff Johns crap all over again.
And now Ava Duvernay and Tom King are shitting on New Gods, Jenkins, Wan and Sandberg aren't fired, Birds of Prey is gonna be a Deadpool shit, and Matt Reeves is ruining Zack Snyder's Batman. FUCK THIS

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I care, for these reasons

Anymore tears to spare, Snyderfag?

Im glad you lost what you love, its what you deserve for putting faith in childrens media

Kill yourself snyderfag

>>James Wan is here
what's wrong with him?
Aquaman is a good capeshit film, plus I'm really surprised that he didn't blackenized Mera and other characters

Whats even funnier is that Snyder gave his approval of Wan's Aquaman, but OP is just a shitposter i bet

You dropped this:
#ReleaseTheSnyderCut
>the DCEU is dead to me. I will just live in my DCEU Snyderverse fanfic and be happy.
You'll probably run into Snyder there since he seems to be doing the same thing.
Anyway, bye bye, sweetie.

>what's wrong with James Wan?
He is not Zack Snyder

God OP, stop sucking Snyders dick for once, his DCEU was shit from the start, i'm glad it died. If there is something more annoying than capeshit is pretentious capeshit.

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This is fake. No human being has taste this shit

>God OP, stop sucking Snyders dick for once, his DCEU was shit from the start, i'm glad it died.
Now it wasn't it was EPIC.
>If there is something more annoying than capeshit is pretentious capeshit.
So everything the Russo brothers directed

>Im glad you lost what you love, its what you deserve for putting faith in childrens media
Snyder DCEU wasn't children media, it was kino and adult superheroes films, not even movies.
And children would have grown up better if they just saw the Snyder's dceu

>so everything the Russo brothers directed
Snyder did the same thing only with more muh religious and political simbolism.
Stop being a retard

>Snyder did the same thing only with more muh religious and political simbolism.
He did it better

>This is fake. No human being has taste this shit
Because only chads got taste this good for loving the Snyder's DCEU

>Better
Ok, how is snyder capeshit better than other capeshit?

This thread is sad, SHAZAM! is better than all of the stuff snyder shit out

>Ok, how is snyder capeshit better than other capeshit?
Because it was something more, something that made you think, something that make you go outside and realize how bad the real world is. Capeshit in general is just hero vs villain, Snyder did hero/villain vs hero/villain, we have to choose who we want to support and call hero and who call villain.
It was epic, epic is not a giant battle with side vs side, epic is something that amaze you, that make you think, that you can't forget. Why do you think we still got threads about MoS and BvS? Because it has changed our mindset, it has made us think.
Think at the terrorism
Think at the saviorism
Think at the xenophobia
This is epic.
I'm just sad you couldn't realize it when we needed the support of many more fans

>This thread is sad, SHAZAM! is better than all of the stuff snyder shit out

No it's not.
>that Shazam! movie came out, and it was crappy as a lighthearted and funny superhero movie would be, stupid, boring, without realism, that leave you nothing, it was just Tom Hanks Big but with a superhero. The realistic tone destroyed, little children loving Superman when he is considered an alien terrorist, Batman called the caped crusader when he is the Dark Knight that lost faith in humanity, toys about Batman and Superman, a wizard that doesn't make sense, a villain that ruined Sivana's name. Geoff Johns crap all over again.

>>The DCEU has turned into lighthearted shit
But it hasn't. Even the relatively lighthearted stuff are done in a shade of grim and dark. For no good reason I might add.

>superhero films instead of superhero movies
Ok you got me. I was kind of suspicious before but this last line made it obviously clear that you're just a Yea Forums troll or a troll acting like one.

>It's bad because it isn't what Snyder wanted!
Those are not actual arguments, the wizard and Sivana were perfectly fine, with the latter being the best possible way you could do a non mad scientist Sivana, which is an angle they could explore in the sequel

>Why do you think we still got threads about MoS and BvS? Because it has changed our mindset, it has made us think.
No it's because people like to look back and laugh at bad movies

Shazam has a far, far lighter tone than Snyder’s films, but I’ve always believed that his films were about how the presence of Superman elevates the “mundane, gritty, grim” world of deconstructionist cape films back into the true fantasy realm of the comics, in essence, deconstructing the deconstruction. Superman’s arrival strips away the thin veneer of “realism” to reveal the world of myth and fantasy lurking just below the surface. Aquaman explored those very themes with its pulp-esque undersea kingdoms and hidden lands. Shazam expands on that by revealing a bit more about how the magic of their world functions and teases the existence of the magical realms.

The suits at WB didn’t know how to market that(and still don’t), so the creators have to angle things in such a way as to make their approach on Snyder’s vision somewhat oblique.

>But it hasn't. Even the relatively lighthearted stuff are done in a shade of grim and dark. For no good reason I might add.
No it's not!
The tone is crappy lighthearted.
Shazam! Was the example of why funny and dark can't mix even if you try. The tones was a shitfest. It was lighthearted for no good reasons, it had a lame attempt at being dark, it was horrible.
Wonder Woman , Suicide Squad and Aquaman too. Boring lighthearted movies that fail in what Snyder succeeded

I'm conflicted about OP.
I agree Dceu was great in areas and that Waititi is awful but on the other hand he is a brain damaged misandrist psychotic who thinks there is something wrong and Incel-ish about enjoying a vaguely sexy female villain in Hela.

>Shazam! Was the example of why funny and dark can't mix even if you try. The tones was a shitfest. It was lighthearted for no good reasons, it had a lame attempt at being dark, it was horrible.
The mistake wasn't that it was lighthearted, it was that it was that dark at all.
>Shazam has a far, far lighter tone than Snyder’s films
You are correct, and yet it still has such fun moments such as Billy beating the fuck out of bullies because "they deserve it" while acting smug and without remorse.
Telling the robbers that they're dead before throwing them through a fucking window and out on the street. Absolutely wrecking the store while again gloating about it.

These are all terribly out of character and them just forcing dark shit where it didn't belong. Billy is a brooding piece of shit for large parts of the movie and even later the more heroic stuff are tinted with dark humour.

> little children loving Superman when he is considered an alien terrorist
What the fuck are you talking about?
The majority of people in Bvs already saw him as a savior. He said this himself to Bruce when they meet in their human personas. We see it in the people's reactions to him during the Montage.

>Yea Forums hated Snyder from the start
>Suddenly miss him and said was good
It's this being contrarian or Yea Forums bait?

I just wish comic book movies could strike a better middle ground or at least tell decent fucking stories.
The MCU goes so hard with the quips that it is hard to take anything seriously and is way too clean while the DCEU goes way too far into edgy territory (or at least as far as a PG-13 will take them) without the plot or character depth to back it up. Post-Aquaman it seems to just be going for the MCU crowd completely skipping the middle ground.

He beat the bullies because they were attacking Freddy and he wanted them to stop, he didn't even win the fight since he got punched and thrown in the ground by one of them, the window he threw the robbers at was at street level and they were fine after that, considering they run off, he even said he was sorry about the window to the clerk, which was the only thing that really got dameged in the store so no it did not get "destroyed", those were not dark moments at all

>e didn't even win the fight since he got punched and thrown in the ground by one of them
He was still acting like a smug asshole about it. Billy wouldn't do that. He was chosen due to how good his heart was after all.
The only time Billy does shady shit in the comics it's followed up with inner monologues of him being ridden with guilt. And if confronted he wouldn't fucking defend himself insisting that he was right.

They made a conscious decision to make it darker.

He was smug because he wanted to make fun of the guys beating the shit out of a cripple, Billy's whole arc in the film is him becoming a person that deserves his powers.

>he wanted to make fun of the guys beating the s
Out of character as fuck. Not worthy of the power of Shazam. An executive decision made to placate people like you who probably deem the original to be kiddy shit or something.

>I agree Dceu was great in areas and that Waititi is awful but on the other hand he is a brain damaged misandrist psychotic who thinks there is something wrong and Incel-ish about enjoying a vaguely sexy female villain in Hela.
Literally they turned Loki's daughter into a fap joke!
In the comic she is the goddess of the deads! Not the generic alien woman Taika gave us. Comic Hela >>>>>> Mcu blandest Becky Blachett

>It's this being contrarian or Yea Forums bait?
We were loud from the start! You just want to heard us now!

In his first appearance Captain Marvel threatens sivana by saying the next time they meet he might end up dead, that sounds a lot worse than cracking a joke at some bullies

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>The majority of people in Bvs already saw him as a savior. He said this himself to Bruce when they meet in their human personas. We see it in the people's reactions to him during the Montage.
Didn't you saw BvS? He is still considered a terrorist by protesters and normal people, the ones that think he is good are a minority.
So have toys about him is a shitty idea

>DCEU goes way too far into edgy territory (or at least as far as a PG-13 will take them) without the plot or character depth to back it up. Post-Aquaman it seems to just be going for the MCU crowd completely skipping the middle ground.
Zack Snyder would have saved the DCEU and WB from themselves

Is English your first language

>Those are not actual arguments, the wizard and Sivana were perfectly fine, with the latter being the best possible way you could do a non mad scientist Sivana, which is an angle they could explore in the sequel
>a non mad scientist Sivana
That should be a crime against comic book art. SIVANA WHOLE CHARACTER IS TO BE A MAD SCIENTIST! Geoff Johns ruined him as he ruined everything he touched, it's not an excuse using the worst version of Sivana to base you movie Sivana when the Golden Age or Bronze Age Sivana should be the base for the stories

>No it's because people like to look back and laugh at bad movies
No, they like to think, because that movie made them think more than everything they ever saw in their life.
Months after Endgame nobody is talking about it anymore, while we still talk about MoS and BvS in 2019!

there's so much obvious samefagging in this thread that it's quite sad

>Zack Snyder
His bland sludgy direction was the biggest problems the films had.

The golden age Captain Marvel is used as a prove of anything?
In the golden age Billy Batson and Captain Marvel were 2 different entities.
Cap was just the man Billy turned into, but it wasn't Billy, it was Cap Marvel

That's not even from DC. The original Whiz Comics are an entirely different continuity. It has about as much credibility as saying that Superman should kill people. Like regularly.

>His bland sludgy direction was the biggest problems the films had.
You misspelled "what made his movie epic and great"

>MUH Snyder
>MUH cartoons from 20 years ago
Every thread it's always the same but I guess I can't blame you losers with a future like this

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I know that this is a bait thread, but Taika Waititi is a fucking hack that ruined glimpse of personality Thor had and turned him into betafaggot. And probably will do the same with Squad. Sad.

But the original Fawcett comics are the inspiration to every subsequent comic, there's not a single interpretation of Billy on DC so using the argument that he's exactly not like he is in the comics doesn't work because he's not 100% consistent

>The mistake wasn't that it was lighthearted, it was that it was that dark at all.
No, you marvelfag, the problem is that was trying to be a good and realistic movie but wanted to be a bad and lighthearted film.
>You are correct, and yet it still has such fun moments such as Billy beating the fuck out of bullies because "they deserve it" while acting smug and without remorse. Telling the robbers that they're dead before throwing them through a fucking window and out on the street.
NO! That's are not funny moments, are cringy moments. Bullies that hit a kid with a car get away with it instead of going to prison. Billy should be pure of earth, he should put these bullies in jail for hitting a fucking child with a car.
Billy shouldn't be smug, he should be pure of earth or serious about life. The realistic and dark Billy was just the only good thing of the movie, when he turns in Captain Marvel he is just a funny idiot, when he is Billy he is a serious and sad child. That doesn't come together. When it was funny was just shitty crap
>He was still acting like a smug asshole about it. Billy wouldn't do that. He was chosen due to how good his heart was after all.
The only time Billy does shady shit in the comics it's followed up with inner monologues of him being ridden with guilt. And if confronted he wouldn't fucking defend himself insisting that he was right. They made a conscious decision to make it darker.
The guilty and shady is part of Billy character, in the comics he was abused by his uncle and it made him serious about courage and hope.
>He was smug because he wanted to make fun of the guys beating the shit out of a cripple, Billy's whole arc in the film is him becoming a person that deserves his powers.
this is bad, he should be worthy by the power from day 1, why the fuck did the Wizard choose him if he wasn't worthy and he had o become worthy?

Even the original Fawcett comics changed drastically over time. The original comics to the later years before the DC acquisition.

Again. Superman used to fucking kill people on the regular. That was the inspiration to subsequent comics just the same. But it is not remotely like the Superman that came to be.

As the other user said. This continuity is entirely different and runs on completely different rules. They're not even the same character, Billy and Captain Marvel. It's different and not what anyone is discussing.

Mmmmm fanta bulous augggghhggg

I am just going to assume that this post is a shitty troll and I won't ever give it a serious reply and others most likely won't either.

Can't ever compete with 2D.

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*dabs on snyderfags*

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>this is bad, he should be worthy by the power from day 1, why the fuck did the Wizard choose him if he wasn't worthy and he had o become worthy?
They say this in the fucking movie
that's another part of my point, there's not ONE right Captain, and even then, throught his existance he has always joked and acted somewhat smug on occasion in both forms.

Stop overthinking snyders capeshit user, it's just that, capeshit, action movies, nothing more. Yeah BvS and man of steel touch those themes, i agree, but they never talk about it, they are just flying around without a proper message in mind, it's fucking pretentious, at the end of the day it's just a hero vs villain action movie.
Snyders shit it's not so different from marvels shit, the end.

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Go watch lord of the rings or some shit, then

there's still hope.
i dream about dc making snyder and chadvill doing an adaption of pic related for the last movie of their contract

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Snyder is why the DC movies failed to begin with.

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Snyder sucks

>They say this in the fucking movie
In the movie they say that he has to prove to be worthy, but is bullshit. He should be pure of earth and willing to use the power for good, and if he wasted it as he did in the movie his powers should abbandom him and return to the wizard. At least in the bronze age comic was like this, and it made sense

Only ifis Zack Snyder direct LOTR

>Snyder is why the DC movies failed to begin with
>Snyder sucks
Without Zack Snyder the dceu is just a pale shadow of something good as Snyder's dceu.
Zack Snyder is the only person that went and made superhero films, not superhero movies

No, he is the only that make sense

snyder cru represent, best superhero director there will ever be

>snyder cru represent, best superhero director there will ever be
Being so based and having so much truth im your body is kino!

>Superman used to fucking kill people on the regular. That was the inspiration to subsequent comics just the same. But it is not remotely like the Superman that came to be.
What the fuck are you talking about? The first Superman was just pragmatic but never killed, maybe he let criminals die. But that was the mindset, everybody thought criminals deserved it comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/superman-165/golden-age-superman-was-no-boyscout-623752/ look at Spectre and Stardust The Super Wizard

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The wizard gave him the power because he was his last option, there was no other way, good to know you didn't watch the film

>Whats even funnier is that Snyder gave his approval of Wan's Aquaman, but OP is just a shitposter i bet
Snyder was supposed to write the movie, but after WB killed themselves by firing him they gave the job to that chucklefuck of Geoff Johns that ruined more dc comics than saved.
So Aquaman suffered from not being made by Zack Snyder

I'd hardly describe making over a billion dollars as suffering

>I'd hardly describe making over a billion dollars as suffering
Oh yes! Because money equals being good!
What a fool am I!
All the modern movies that made a bilion are good! The Disney live actions! The IronBoy movie that everybody call Spider-Man! The sony movies! The star wars movies!

cry more bitchboy, snyder was trash and youre a brainlet for thinking it was deep and good.

>The wizard gave him the power because he was his last option, there was no other way, good to know you didn't watch the film
The Wizard made the worst choice even for an antisocial wizard that lived in a cave for centuries. Billy is the last person on the planet worthy of the powers, child Sivana was worthier. In the movie Billy needed to learn to stop living in the past and lamenting what he doesn't have, and learn to live in the present and appreciate what he does have, and that was what I loved about the movie! Billy could have learned all the lessons he needed to learn without ever becoming Cap Marvel in the first place.
There are a lot of humans out there, but the problem comes when the wizard has been looking for a champion for thousands of years never finding a perfect candidate, but for some reason he gave the power to Billy, someone who became a decent champion only out of pure luck and circumstance. And Billy isn't even pure fo heart by some pretentious standards, he is egoistical and mean to his half brother, the only person that tried to be nice to him and went away when he was being bullied by bullies. The wizard should have been willing to gave his powerd to someone who was mostly good, like FREDDY! That was nice to his half brother when he was just mean to him. Freddy was pure of heart

>cry more bitchboy, snyder was trash and youre a brainlet for thinking it was deep and good.
Really?
You're gonna call me this without adding nothing more? It was deep and good, buy yes, call me brainlet. I don't think you can discuss without calling me this

>Fuck off back to R3ddit you stupid niggerfaggot pajett or spic that loves sucking Snyder balls so much. You are retarded,Snyder films suck ass.

one more week until we get the first teaser trailer for the Cyborg movie dropping in April 2020. I can't wait. So far the BTS footage has been amazing.

>one more week until we get the first teaser trailer for the Cyborg movie dropping in April 2020. I can't wait. So far the BTS footage has been amazing.
Please stop this! The real Snyder DCEU is dead! Stop doing this!
Make it directed by Snyder or abort it! I don't want other crappy lighthearted cash grabber movie!
I want my chad realistic and gritty Snyderverse films! Not this, I never wanted this, I want realism and symbolism. Not this!

>This is epic
>Yea Forums actually thinks he's serious
The absolute state of this board holy fucking shit

>>MUH Snyder
>>MUH cartoons from 20 years ago
>Every thread it's always the same but I guess I can't blame you losers with a future like this
You know, I don't even give a fuck about Harley Quinn, I hated her in Batman TAS because Paul Dini and Bruce Timm made a jerk off character for themselves by appropriating Alan Scott's wife Harlequin and Gaggy's backstory. But then I evolved for just not caring about Harley Quinn. But now, fucking now we're getting a deadpool 4th wall breaker movie about her, and it will be shit as the leaks confirm to be, it's bad, it's horribly bad, and it's not what I signed for the DCEU. Now I just want her to not exist, not to die, just to go back in time and stop Bruce Timm's to fap to clowns and made him realize Gaggy is the real Joker's henchman

>I know that this is a bait thread, but Taika Waititi is a fucking hack that ruined glimpse of personality Thor had and turned him into betafaggot. And probably will do the same with Squad. Sad.
Don't forget Sif, because he forget Sif and made Valkyrie the new Sif

Please, we already got Wonder Woman Bloodlines

>The absolute state of this board holy fucking shit
I'm serious my dude.
Why you think I'm not, my sweet, sweet dude?

>Zack Snyder is gone
>Affleck is gone
>My man Henry Cavill is almost gone
But these re all good things.

No, are not. These 3 people started something extraordinary that nobody of us deserved

>Stop overthinking snyders capeshit user, it's just that, capeshit, action movies, nothing more. Yeah BvS and man of steel touch those themes, i agree, but they never talk about it, they are just flying around without a proper message in mind, it's fucking pretentious, at the end of the day it's just a hero vs villain action movie.
Not it's not, it wasn't hero vs villain, in BvS there wasn't a real hero. Batman was considered a murderous psycho, Superman was considered an alien terrorist. It was Anti-hero/villain vs Anti-villain/hero. The message was about xenophobia, how we humans are bad by nature, how the real goodness doesn't exist, how humans can't forgive or be emphatic to others different to them. It was a masterpiece with superheroes, not a superhero movie, a superhero film. A superhero movie is just a form of entertainment, whose purpose is not to tell a story but to be something commercial and that leaves the audience happy, satisfied, but ultimately unchanged. While Zack Snyder's superhero films were commercial, but had a larger purpose than just making money. Were characterized by the personalities, beliefs, and artistic ambition of the person making it, it attempts to convey or explore something larger than itself, forces the audience to grow in some way, to leave the theater slightly better humans than when they came in.

>Snyders shit it's not so different from marvels shit, the end.
Yes it's different, Snyder's DCEU has a purpose, something the MCU never had

Extraordinarily bad.

>forces the audience to grow in some way, to leave the theater slightly better humans than when they came in.

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Is your life not all the richer for MARTHA? Or for the opportunity to mock backward retards like OP? If being forced to watch BvS is comparable to some form of spiritual asceticism, is it not akin to colonic irrigation for your soul?

>>forces the audience to grow in some way, to leave the theater slightly better humans than when they came in.
Why do you think we got a Mos and a Bvs thread every week? Because it changed normal people minds

>Is your life not all the richer for MARTHA? Or for the opportunity to mock backward retards like OP? If being forced to watch BvS is comparable to some form of spiritual asceticism, is it not akin to colonic irrigation for your soul?
Outstandingly good

Affleck and Cavill were fine. Snyder was the main problem. They might as well have had Garth Ennis build the DCEU.

>Is your life not all the richer for MARTHA? Or for the opportunity to mock backward retards like OP? If being forced to watch BvS is comparable to some form of spiritual asceticism, is it not akin to colonic irrigation for your soul?
That Martha scene made you more think that everything you everwatched in movies and films, admit it

>That Martha scene made you more think that everything you everwatched in movies and films, admit it

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