Why can she keep up with Batman in terms of fighting ?

But he is clearly crazy! You can't kill a crazy person.
Now excuse me while I count my totally wasn't a bribe money.

GOTHAM: It's Corrupt But It's Got One Hell Of A Economy So Fuck You Bludhaven

Gotham is in kinda-sorta-notreally-New York
Which has no death penalty

isn't Gotham canonically in New Jersey?

Ah, it is? NJ also lacks a death penalty, I'm pretty sure.

because it's just sex fighting for them

Stupid clown plot armor that surpasses stupid Bat plot armor.

Says who? Joker is crazy like Batman is over his parent's deaths. Joker aint crazy. Has shown at times that he is capable of thinking rationally. He is clearly faking it and the people of Gotham are retarded for not realizing.

I'm sure a state that had the Joker situation would reconsider that policy, even just as a temporary measure

That would be extremely unconstitutional.

didnt they have ivy buff her recently?

where did you hear that?

>didnt they have ivy buff her recently?
That happened in 1999.

joker keeps committing murder user, you're not gonna have to chase past crimes since it inevitably happens anyways

The true question we should all be asking is what the fuck was amanda waller thinking in the suicide squad movie? She wanted a team that could stand up to superman so who does she choose? A crazy chick with a giant hammer and a revolver, a guy who throws boomerangs, a guy who can shoot really well, a guy with crocodile skin, a guy who uses ropes for whatever reason, and a guy leading a military squad which could not stand up to superman in any way. Could have worked if they had made the SS a black ops team that fights lower scale terrorists and shit but no, they had them fight against the end of the world while superman, flash and the others were conveniently absent. Fucking retarded ass writing.

Mass murder for the first time and is eventually captured? Throw him in the loony farm. Mass murder the second time and is eventually captured? Throw him in the loony farm again and consider additional counter measures to prevent his escape and the reformation of the loony farm. Mass murder the third time and is eventually captured? Well shit, he is obviously not going to stop being a mass murder. Lets do the sane thing and just execute this loony clown.

A crazy chick with a giant Kryptonite hammer and a revolver w/ Kryptonite bullets, a guy who throws Kryptonite boomerangs, a guy w/ Kryptonite bullets who can shoot really well, a guy with crocodile skin Kryptonite claws and fangs, a guy who uses Kryptonite ropes for whatever reason, and a guy leading a military squad w/ Kryptonite military gear which could stand up to Superman in any way.

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Why do you care about the judicial process being unrealistic? It’s comics, half the people can fly

see

Here’s an issue where Harley beat a depowered Superman to a pulp. By the issues end his face was a pulpy, swollen, unrecognisable mess and half his teeth were knocked out.

Harley Quinn is a terrible character. Her being in Batman stories makes Batman stupid and incompetant. In Superman ones it makes him a pussy. In Joker ones it turns him into an even bigger pussy.

That’s why Batman has trouble with her, because her writers are as braindead as all her fans.

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1. She's an accomplished gymnast
2. Received training in suicide squad
3. Survived being near Joker for years
4. Ivy made her a metahuman

And btw she's never shown to a be able to keep up with Batsy but she's not just a crazy chick with a bat

that's not surprising though. supes has always been about raw power over fighting ability

That's not even Superman, that's Jimmy Olsen disguised as Superman.

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How can she keep up with batman and get beaten like a bitch by someone who's fucking auschwitz mode?

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For you

Because Harleywank

Except he’s been depowered before and has spent his whole life fighting hand to hand. Harley is a delusional idiot with a victim-complex.

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How can Cat-Woman?

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She's actually trained in hand to hand and has years of experience

So much experience she can beat 3 flashes at once

I don't really mind her, and other characters being able to fight him, but the more I think about it, the more I think that maybe those far away martial arts schools ripped Bruce off.

Come on, even Bat-Man shouldn't be able to do that. Not even Deathstroke or lady Shiva, or Cassandra Cain.

for you

Deathstroke would simply place three swords behind him and a Flash would run into each sword.

Fucking Tom King

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> Super-Speed

What's it good for?

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>not even posting the context
Dumbass.

Going back in time and killing the multiverse.

What context? So they’re controlled by Ivy, they still have super-speed

You must be one of those retards that think someone is instantly nerfed just because they are mind controlled.

Yeah it’s called super-speed for a reason, because it’s much faster than any human could ever hope to achieve

Metropolis does though

Heh, heh.

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She has enhanced strength, agility and immunity due to a serum that Poison Ivy gave her. She should easily be able to take out street level thugs on her own, but she shouldn't be able to take on someone with extensive training like Batman.

batarang to the face, done

Being controlled by Ivy makes them less intelligent and gives them inferior tactics. Use your fucking brain for once...if you have one.

They are though, you fucking buffoon. Poison Ivy doesn't know how to properly manage super speed, so mind controlling the speedsters is like being a fish out of water. They ARE nerfed. Stop posting immediately.

“Inferior tactics” doesn’t excuse 3 people who move and react many tumes the speed of light from losing to a stripper

But they're not moving or reacting at many times the speed of light.

Go back to tumblr user, over there you can talk about how empowering it is seeing Harley beating the trinity and Selina kicking at mach 10

Isn't martial arts usually pretty useless in street fights?

Normal human capes constantly do impossible things
Remember when Selina dodged bullets? Or knocked out an octopus while underwater? Or pulled out the tail of the helicopter with her whip?

Being master of every martial art in the world is stupid anyway
Realistically Bruce would need like 4 and he'd be golden

Does he really use various styles when he's really fighting? I mean, with most writers anyway?

That could be an interesting story thing. he goes up against the likes of Deathstroke, Lady Shiva, Cassandra Cain, Ras Al Ghul, Prometheus etc and he realizes he's still not completely ready. So he has to learn more.

Because crazyforce is real.

But I'm right, they wouldn't be going many times faster than the speed of light.

> Crazyforce

Made me think of this.

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Still faster than non-powered Cat-Woman?

Lex Luther was able to figure out how to use Flash's powers pretty quickly when he was controlling his body, but then again, Lex is one of the smartest people on Earth.

Slow enough for a peak human to react.

Against a group of guys who will be far more aggressive than your sparring partner, and armed with melee weapons or guns? Yes

“Peak human”. She’s a fucking Stripper. Batman’s trained every day since he was 6. That’s peak human.

Just have sex, user. You will never get laid by Catwoman for wanking her and Tom King

>She’s a fucking Stripper
Who is peak human.

Come to think of it, a lot of Batman's rogues can keep up with him when they shouldn't be able to. Joker is just a nutcase and Two-Face is just a guy with bad scars, but they can go toe-to-toe with Batman. I can buy Killer Croc or Poison Ivy or the like, but how do Golden Age villains that are basically just thugs keep up with him?

Not always. Joker's fights with Bat-Man have been one-sided a few times. A lot of it is dependent on who's writing.

Short answer is that they don't. Instead they become joke villains till a writer makes them super edgy to overcompensate them being jokes.

nobody said he mastered every martial art in the world

>since he was 6

so it's true, Yea Forums rally doesn't read comics and keep making stuff out of their anus

makes you think why did he even waste 10 years of his life to train with chinks if he's just gonna get wrecked by random hoodlums

Tom King literally has her whoop Batman's ass as Superman declares she is better than him.

I’m referring to the fact Batman year 1 had his parents killed when he was 6. Of course he didn’t start training the day it happened but he was dead set on it from that day.

That literally didn't happen.

>that time in the DCAU Joker got Johnny Cochran to declare him legally sane
>he still goes to Arkham in every episode after that

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I think you're confused user as Batman's parent died when he was 8 and it's not like he immediately picked up martial arts training at 8 years old.

I'm okay with that as long as it's one of the first few times he encounters her. Hasn't Bat-Man known her for years in Tom King's run?

In all the early stories it does, and throughout the 90s it still did (Long Halloween, Joker Devil's Advocate, etc.)

>why doesn't batman just fuck the joker?

sooo basically tard strenght?

Tell a speedster to go fast and they will go fast. Don't even have to worry about the negatives of superspeed since they have Speedforce protection. You don't need to manage anything. Its call mind control for a reason. You tell the mind control victim to do something and they will do it. Now stop sucking Tom King's PTSD dick.

But it did happen. See Heroes in Crisis, aka the modern Cry for Justice.

Not the way you're describing.

>You don't need to manage anything.
Yeah you do, you can tell them to run fast but not dodge fast.

I'm so fucking tired of Harley Quinn you guys

Harley Quinn is not fucking crazy

When it comes to Batman, the default answer will always be: IT'S A SEX THING.

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I dunno, being controlled by a plant lady by what I assume is some kind of chemical drug thingy could probably mess with their reaction time.

Nah. If anything, the very comic itself implied that the characters controlled by Poison Ivy had their super-powers/senses amped because she couldn't control them as well as they could, so she wasn't able to restrain herself using them as they could if they were in control of themselves. That's why Superman was taken down by Batman with a simple whistle when Poison Ivy used his super-senses to hear on Batman and Catwoman conversation, and as well Superman pretty much killed Batman with a soft punch.

Well, while it would be the first time Americans have ignored their constitution, I'm sure they'd be able to stomach it.

Friendly reminder that NightWing tapped that.