All the Beyonder stuff was in adjectiveless. Regardless, New Avengers may have provided the grist for his mill, but adjectiveless was much more of an Avengers book.
I liked the run except for the frequent problem of his cool ideas building to nowhere, like the Alephs and the Beyonders. Also, he mismanaged a couple big fights during Infinity where whole books were just panels of characters posing with past tense narration. Terrible form.
Thor and Hyperion didn't do dick. They raised some mutant kids in the Savage Lands (kids who thanks to T'Challa and Reed remaking reality and setting it back 8 months no longer exist) and fought the Beyonders and lost. I'll give you this, they did more than most of the main Avengers team. Fucking Smasher got multiple issues devoted to her and just ended up pregnant from a romance that happened largely off panel.
I admit my memories of Avengers are a bit foggy, but wasn't Cap's time travel in there? That was important
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No, no it wasn't. He goes forward i time and is made aware of the incursions and of the Illuminati's work. He then proceeds to chase the Illuminati around for a few issues while they and Doom co tinue to spearhead the work to stop the incursions and finally he gets into a fight to the death with Stark as once agai the Illuminati and Doom are off doing the plot relevant stuff.
anything that makes the plot evolve is relevant.
you are considering those characters the only relevant ones since you know how the story ends already.
But the evolution it created was irrelevant. Nothing came of it. Thus, it was not important.
Because Hickman cares about rulers and geniuses and nithing else. So he stuck all the rulers and smart people (T'Challa, Reed, Valeria, Doom, Tony, Namor etc.) in one book and struggled for 3 years to make himself care about the everyman heroes of the main Avengers book.
the final issue of FF is fucking amazing what are you smoking?
I'm talking about the climax to the run not the over-long epilogue that the last ten or so issues are. The War of 4 Cities was a complete bust.