I know Cap grew up in a different era, but does he really have to act this way?

I know Cap grew up in a different era, but does he really have to act this way?

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It was a different time, OP.

Did Raimi direct this scene?

I mean, it's a subtle way to reference his first introduction in Avengers, specifically in the scene where Steve comments on the usefulness of Tony Stark's negro but still asked him why he decided to equip the negro with an armor made of sophisticated white technology and requested that he instead be turned into Cotton Machine. It was a subtle complex commentary on modern society's values and how they are taken for granted, tho I do agree that Steve looking into the camera and ordering all black people to stop watching the film was kind of..pushing it.

It's missing the extra dialog where he calls him a nigger. I hear Raimi wanted to adapt Hydra Cap

Based Steve doesn't care about race or gender, only FREEDOM.

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>hydra cap
Yeah what even was the deal with that anyway?

Raimi said the arc spoke to him.

this writer is legit brainless

Explain why you hate freedom?

>Beliefs always change
>But they always return to traditionalist values

Huh so things always change but they also stay the same? So then why is it no longer acceptable to own a slave?

And let me know when a few tweets about genderfluidity leads to societal collapse.

No, the government isnt society, its not the people, or popular will.

Letting shitters forum slide over from /tvpol/ was a mistake.

The nazi is still allowed to express himself. He can be charged on the grounds for disturbing the peace if he starts walking around with a megaphone, but he CAN'T be charged purely for the words he is saying. And that's the entire point, if one of America's core values is freedom of speech, that means all speech, even the ones that people consider evil. And it's restricted to "speech", not freedom of action.

A person deciding it's wrong and wanting to harass the neo-nazi is still unacceptable. It's not their job, if the neo-nazi gets out of hand, it's a job for the police. If he lives in a neighborhood where a set of internal rules delegate they CAN vote him out, then that's within their right, too. But you can't arrest the guy purely for his beliefs.

Isn’t it though? At least freedom from forcible persecution?
In what other way could freedom of speech exist? Why does it require protection if it means can still be persecuted?
Or do you mean social persecution?

>starts post by pointing out the capricious and arbitrary moralization of society
>ends post endorsing one morality as ACTUALLY being woke

I never said that he couldn't express himself, just that his beliefs can still be judged as wrong by both society and the government. Because while you can't arrest someone for their beliefs, in this specific case, the Neo-Nazi infringes on the personal rights of other people by promoting his race at the expense of another. Just as the Neo-Nazi has the right to express his beliefs, other people have the right to ask for him to be removed.

What he's saying is that you have the right to say something, but you don't have immunity from the consequences of your words.

fucking lol. is raimiposting, dare I say it, back?

Yes but the entire argument is still about belief. Cap's statement is in direct comment to people who DO believe you should just be immediately jailed for being a neo-nazi, even privately. There are citizens who think it's completely just that if you see a guy walking down the street with a nazi shirt, he no longer has rights and deserves to be punched in the face.

You can judge the dude, you can hate him, you can vote him out of your neighborhood if the block petitions for it, you can write angry comments on his Facebook. You can't jail him, punch him in the face, egg his house, or take any of his rights just because you don't like his beliefs. You have to wait until he actually does something that breaks the law, and just believing in something isn't against the law.

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Except you're conflating belief with expression. It's not believing in the ideals of Nazism that's the issue, it's openly wearing a symbol condoning genocide against other ethnic groups and the promotion of the white race. People punch Nazis because an open display of the swastika is a deliberate provocation. It's saying that if you are not white, I believe that you are inferior. It's a deliberate and open insult, while using freedom of speech as a shield against the consequences of that insult.

That isn't to say that people should have the right to punch a Nazi, but they do have the right to ask someone to remove an open display of their ideology, or to please speak elsewhere. Just because you have the right to speak doesn't mean you have the right to an audience.

And just because you're uncomfortable about symbolism doesn't mean you can deny the guy the right to leave his house until he changes his shirt any more than the neo-nazi can deny the right of someone wearing a "Fuck White People" shirt.

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Was it really necessary for Caps 20-minute rant about letting "them" use Human stuff

I'm not saying you can. I'm not even sure what we're arguing about at this point but all I'm saying is that you have the freedom of expression, but not freedom from consequence

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I still think it's funny that Trump has done ZERO to imply he's a "nazi", yet he makes it into all these butt hurt drawings. lol

kek

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It's because Trump said neo-nazis and people against neo-nazis were both being violent, and that might as well be swearing yourself as a neo-nazi to people. Quite literally Gaston's "If you're not with us, you're against us", despite Gaston being known for his ignorance.

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I swear to fuck Yea Forums has to be the most credulous fucking board on this site.

part of me was really disappointed that this scene didn't end with all of them shirtless and sniffing each others stinky armpits

I think that goes without saying, user.

When people get violent at a peaceful protest, regardless of how scummy you feel the peaceful protesters are, and you have bias news media demanding a statement from the president about how it's all the peaceful protester's fault, of course he's going to point out that it's an inappropriate reaction.

Wow, what a Nazi. Amirite?

They turned on Chris Evans recently because he talked about an open conversation with both sides.

it is acceptable to own a slave, but only if you're a corporation

Well yeah. SJWs will always eventually eat their own.

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>so ten why is it no longer acceptable to own a slave
Because white people ended the practice far before Africans did.

The incest joke they cut from Age of Ultron was pretty funny.

But they were both being terrible and violent. Trump was right to call out both sides. You can support one group of Nazi's because they agree with and then ago attack another and have some sort of moral high ground.

Do you actually believe anything you just said, or do you feel obliged to post it because you're stuck with him?

whether it is a right or left boot is of no consequence. It is the foot of Darkseid. Darkseid is.

"Mr. President! How do you feel about the sit-in protests where those filthy colored folks were sitting in our diners!"
"Well, it was wrong of them to disrupt businesses for the sake of their protest, taking up all the seats of the establishments, but it was also wrong for those counter protesters to drag them out and kick them in the streets."

BREAKING STORY: PRESIDENT IS ANTI-BUSINESS. SUPPORTS ANARCHY.

DUDE WHAT IF CAPTAIN AMERICA WAS A RACIST

-zach snyders pitch to marvel studios for the second cap movie

I did mean social persecution, yes.

This user gets it. Hail Darkseid.

Hail almighty Darkseid.

Cap did enjoy showing up black people

Most of the time the racist shit on here is cringey or stupid, but every once in a while I lol

>"Around blacks,never relax" -- Steve Rogers.

I don't like right-wing comics either, but this comic isn't a good satire. Since any claim made without evidence can be refuted without evidence. Responding, "no it isn't" is factually wrong, but it's actually good enough as a rebuttal to any unqualified assertion. Think, if you switched their places, and one asserted, "racism is good"; it'd be fine to respond, "no, it isn't". You don't have to waste your breath giving an oral thesis on equality.

>helicopter won't commit a mass shooting
That's a Hind D, Snake, of course it could.

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IS

Do you think Cap secretly has jungle fever?

It would probably have either been illegal or really frowned upon back then, maybe he’s curious?

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The satire works because of the second panel, where the guy who declares racism as good looks at the camera as smug as he can, to indicate that he won the debate for doing nothing but having the last word on his own comic.
It's good satire. So suck my nipples, you cumslut.

Yes.

>Do you think Cap secretly has jungle fever?
He looks like a man who'd have yellow fever.

Cap has Carter fever.

>one side protests against racism and hurting people
>other sides protests for racism and hurting people
>BOTH OF THEM ARE BAD M'KAY
Fucking brainlet centrists. Y'all fucking idiots without a single braincell in your heads. Trying to justify your idiocy with faulty logic instead of admiting wrong, or the fact that you actually support the people who want to hurt others. Go to hell.

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I’m not from America and I never understand how idiots there can never get along. Why do you guys stay away from each other all the time, you guys have a barely any connections to Europe, Asia or Africa aside from genetics.
400 years and you still fucked it up, amazing.

He’s probably killed a Prefecture worth of Japs.

see the problem here is that the people calling for violence against "nazis" also declares anyone who disagrees with any of their points to be nazis.
And with their mantra of "everything is political" (which I believe mussolini also said) you are not far away from having people kick in your door in the night...

>one side commits violence in the streets
>other side commits violence in the streets
I don't give a fuck what their reasons for it are, you don't go punching randos in the fucking street

Fuck off Yea Forums and take your autism with you

Everything IS political
if you don't hate rape, you're in favor of it
if you don't hate nazis, you support them through your passivity
Being against nazis is one of the few things in this word that really are black or white. There's no middle of the road here, fucker.
you don't go punching randos, but you have to punch fucking nazis because any reasonable person knows they'll do worse if in power. Period.

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How is punching them stopping them from getting into power?

>one side protests for letting in hordes of invaders
>one side protests against letting in hordes of invaders
Look Ma, I can strawman too!

Showing the public what they deserve creates losing status, credibilty and their motivation. It encourages discussion over the punched nazi. And while alt-right will still support them, they'll eventually see them as weak themselves, depending on how often they get punched.
Punching nazis will save America.

>YOURE EITHER WITH US OR AGAINST US
How about I just punch both you and the Nazis, you freebleeding communist whore.

Hitler and the Nazi's kill count wasn't even that high compared to other tyrannical leaders. Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc.

Cool racism, user! Go eat a dick.
>YOURE EITHER WITH US OR AGAINST US
Yes. It is exactly that, lesbian.

Alternatively, punching them lets them act like martyrs for their cause and ups recruitment.
Literally no one know who Richard Spencer was until some chucklefuck punched him

>Oooh I'm gonna punch those Nazis!

lmao I'd put money on you getting your shit kicked in by pretty much anyone

Stonetoss isn't right-wing.

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>Alternatively, punching them lets them act like martyrs for their cause and ups recruitment.
Granted, but people who would have followed them would have done it anyway. So it's better if they get punched and cry in front of a camera like the cucks they are

>Cool racism, user! Go eat a dick
I'm not the racist one here, user. Why do you insist on using brown people as vote-slaves and letting their countries rot in perpetual third world mediocrity?
Truly shameful.

>Save America
Fuck you let America burn.
Facist, Communist, Theocratic America will always fucking suck because they would still force the world to follow them.

Maybe. But that won't stop me for supporting nazi punching.

I know adultery was illegal back then, but was interracial marriage too? That's fucked.

>Ooooh I'm gonna let you punch those Nazis

lmao

>Fuck you let America burn.
You're right. It sounds even better
Cool racism, user. Eat some smelly shit.

>he says, while failing to remember that fighting Nazis in the streets is exactly what got tghem into power in Weimar Germany in the first place
You commies never learn, do you?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia

>>he says, while failing to remember that fighting Nazis in the streets is exactly what got tghem into power in Weimar Germany in the first place
that's not how they got into power, imbecile

>anti-freedom
>violent
>racist
>scatological
I can scarcely imagine being as terrible of a person as you, user

>a fascist calling me all that
KEK
the lack of self-awareness
anyway, slurp cum from the floor and die

Oh, youre right! It was actually the nazis punching the commies, because the commies were starting shit with anyone who wasn't voting commie.
Kind of like now, where there aren't really any actual Nazis, but you communists have whipped yourself up into a frothing frenzy. Next comes the actual Nazis.
You.
Dumb.
Fuck.

>MAYBE THE ANTI-RACISTS ARE THE REAL RACISTS!!!

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>communist sees fascists in the shadows
Pottery

ok user
keep living in your reality
just don't go outside of your room or you'll face even harder cognitive dissonance

Behavior, yes. Beliefs, no.

You obsess about race, drag race into everything, and divide people up along racial lines. You cannot convince me you are not a racist when you behave exactly like one.

>I AM SILLY

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it, and idiot leftists like you are what's going to kick off another Reich and get us all killed.

Not being willing to acknowledge race IS racist, because you can't pretend that the current system treats all races the same. It is also cultural erasure, something white people are really used to do. Your rhetoric is based on the fact that you're pretty fucking stupid and a fake bitch.

People here hate the Chinks about as much as the Mutts. Not everything has to be black and white, sometimes theres a little yellow in there.

Whatever you say racist. Why don't you go seethe about skin color on /pol/ where you belong.

>Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it,
Exactly why we must fuck up the nazis before they gain power again
Anyway, eat raw excrement from a fat guy's asshole

>braindead communist has no response to the fact that he's playing a part in accelerating the pendulum swing and is handily speeding us along to another ideological bloodshed
>posts more scatological nonsense
Why do I even try

This is all your countries issue right?
Theres no Nazis in Asia but I do want to see you guys rip each others arms off so continue to do that.

>if you treat people the same regardless of skin color, you're racist!
When did the left get so schizophrenic?

Don't worry, Chang, you'll get to see the western piggus go at it like two knife wielding chimps

Based hopefully they would off themselves sooner.
We have no shame unlike the west who thinks that saving a dying race is important and that somehow they could make a difference if they complained hard enough.
You gave up the keys to success to your enemeis nothing more cucked than that.

Can the nazis start actually oppressing these faggots now? I'd like them to at least learn what actual national socialism looks like before the country falls apart thanks to their retardation. They're so confused they think it looks like fat guys in polos or mean posts on the internet.

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>Theres no Nazis in Asia

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Name one actual Nazi Organization in Asia.
We only have Communists and broken democracies. Even if there was one its usually a joke of an Organization.

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National Socialist Japanese Workers' Party
Aryan League
SUMKA
Tsagaan Khas
National Socialism Association

Cap has Irish blood so it doesn't surprise me, and it's even worse because the serum won't let him get drunk.

He's only dated white women and one Latina in the comics.

Raimi pls

But Stonetoss is always based off events or evidence. Even if you don't happen to agree with it, there's meat on the bones. That "satire" is under the idea that there's nothing backing the originals. Which is rarely the case. It's lazy. It's the equivalent of drawing your opponent with a dunce cap with nothing backing it. But it is consistent with "the left can't meme", so I'll just assume this "satire" is actually making fun of the left's inability to create satire.

It is acceptable to own a slave. We call them undocumented citizens now.

Yea Forumsfag cant meme

>you can't pretend that the current system treats all races the same.
Sure I can. I assume you're talking about incarceration rates? The fact is that you just want equality of outcome which isn't going to happen while mainstream black culture thinks that gangster shit is cool.

>Punch all nazis!
>Anyone who's not standing with us is a nazi and needs to be punched!
>Liberals are just nazis hiding it and they need to be purged too!
>Also pour bleach on this cat that looks like Hitler!
>We're the good guys!
>Wait, why is everyone siding with the nazis?
It must be nice to be so historically illiterate. From Spain to Germany, communist thuggery allowed fascist regimes to take power for decades.

>sexually identify as a demisexual panaromantic Hind attack gunship

Why has /pol/ been making the same four jokes over and over with slight variations since 2013? Legit question, why haven't they come up with any new material?

>Implying that the crowd constantly whining about how gay people act don't immediately mewl about freedom of speech when someone calls them an asshole on twitter

Pretty sure they call the people chanting "blood and soil" in the streets Nazis

There is video evidence of them marching in the streets chanting nazi slogans and shit about Jews, you fucking retard

>Eh at least the demisexual helicopter won't commit a mass shooting
No, but their constant whining encourages them.

Their movement is largely built on an image of strength and masculinity. Exposing them as the fat weak cowards 99.9% of them are fucks up that image. Martyrdom doesn't work for them because it's off-brand. The brave champions of the white race aren't supposed to be helpless crying victims.

Jeez, Cap, just because he's black doesn't mean he's your chauffeur...

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Nazis don't exist anymore.
Well, maybe a few still do but they're old and will die soon anyway.

Neo-Nazis exist, but they aren't well defined as a group.
Does being racist make you a Neo-Nazi?
Does believing in white genocide make you a Neo-Nazi?
Does hating jews make you a Neo-Nazi?
Some people have called themselves Neo-Nazis, but is that what defines them?
Are people that don't call themselves Neo-Nazis not Neo-Nazis?

Talking about real Nazi's is pretty black and white, they were Germans following the Nazi party and either participated in or supported atrocities (although you shouldn't forget that most of them were still just humans taking orders).
Neo-Nazis are more complicated.
Most of them haven't actually hurt anyone, and you can't tell which ones are capable of actually hurting people unless you read their mind.
In addition, in modern times edgy ironic humor has become popular and especially online there are people who would pretend to be Neo-Nazis just to make other people angry.

I can't help but think that the hatred directed at both sides of these issues could be better spent on the rich people who unapologetically control and fuck over normal people for their own financial gain.
People are happy to punch anyone they can convince themself is a Nazi, but would never try to punch the fatcat CEOs that are making trillions of dollars by exploiting loopholes and taking advantage of the middle and lower class.

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Yeah but neo-nazis tend to be stronger than antifas, you think these guys are just /pol/tards that got out of the basement ?

>Yeah but neo-nazis tend to be stronger than antifas
You have any source for that? because I live in a pretty purple area in a pretty purple state, and trust me, the liberals around are way more likely to go to the gym than the conservatives

>all this Yea Forumsmblr

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>hes not pro-trump all the time
>therefore he is not right wing

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There, there frogposter, nobody is coming after your 3yo memes

I want to shoot you dead, but I don't. It's called being civilized

No ifs or buts about it, Cap punches Nazis, fascists and all manner of bigots.

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Fuck off nigger

>hordes of invaders
You watched too many movies, user

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In France, there was this guy, Clement Meric, who died in a figth with skinned. The guy was skin and bones like all the antifas I ever met in Marseille.
And I didn't say that liberals aren't more likely to go to the gym than conservatives, but we're talking about neo-nazis and antifas here, not simple conservatives and liberals.

>freedom of expression isn't the same as freedom from persecution
Then why do you cry foul when people oppose anti-LGBTQ+ bigotry?
Necklacing bigots is completely within the spirit of upholding human rights and responsibilities.

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Problem is that Nazi is getting thrown around so liberally, the meaning is getting lost.
Wears an SS uniform at home and beats up local Jews? Nazi.
Believes people entering the country should do so legally? Just as much of a Nazi, apparently.

>3+ million illegal shitskins
>not an invasion
I hope you get hit by an illegal driving drunk

>Problem is that Nazi is getting thrown around so liberally, the meaning is getting lost.
No, that's just a cheap defense for bigots.
They get punched and that's final.

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>man starts screaming and shitting himself several feet away from you
>"Ugh...I wish he would stop that."
>(punches you in the face) "INTOLERANT, BIGOT! AND DON'T YOU DARE COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS, OR ELSE YOU'RE A HYPOCRITE."

Nigger, go home

That comment contained zero counter-argument outside of "nuh uh!"

You can make exactly the same argument about Islam

Uh what? Behavior is the result of beliefs. If we all thought murder was ok, everyone would murder.

>punches you in the face
We burn fash scum is the streets where I live. Mob justice beats waiting for courts to decide the obvious and simply fine the cancer of society pocket change.

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The majority of antifa are upper middle class poofs who work in academia or other white collar jobs. They probably go to the gym to burn off calories, not build their bodies for conflict.

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>counter-argument
Killing bigots is the only counter-argument that's needed.

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So you live in fantasy land

Riiiiight.

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>Necklacing
>Fantasy

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The only places that necklace people are 3rd world shitholes in Africa

Yes, your point?

How do you have internet

>Entire point was the danger of people misusing the term "bigot"
>Idiot argues that point by suggesting violence toward people who are randomly labeled as bigots
>Doesn't even address the example.
If it wasn't clear that there's a limp wristed faggot typing this out while doing Captain America image searches, this would be legitimately concerning that there are people that stupid out there.

Bourgeois and an Anarchist. Also, everyone has internet.
Kinda.

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There are actually prosperous nations in Europe. Nigeria, for example, is doing quite well, and has a higher average internet speed than the United States. Hell, I like the Nigerians I've worked with. Really readjusted my perception of religious folks with just how decent and hard-working they were.

>Europe
>Nigeria

>Nigeria
>Europe
Not for a year or two, user.

That is one hell of a Freudian slip on my part, Anons. Obviously I meant Africa, but my point stands, and I agree that Europe's sliding into the toilet.

That's pretty much how it goes both ways now.
All anti-fascists are now apparently communists, because there's literally no middle ground between fascism and communism these days.

Today I learned that since Cap beat up Adolf in a comic during WWII, that automatically means the brain-dead imbeciles at Marvel can give into their biases and write him beating up Republicans as if it’s the same thing.

Congratulations, you’ve outed yourself as a Tumbltard. Get out of my board.

The difference that matters though, is that those on the right don't support the random assault of people on the street if they deem them to be communists.

There’s no prosperous nations in Sub-saharan Africa. The Nigerian gdp is the size of Poland’s, yet the population in the former is soon 200 million, while in the ladder it is 38 million and falling. And the nigerian economy is largely pushed by oil and other natural ressources - this is supposedly Africa’s flagship, but it would be a complete embarassment for any other continent.

By gdp per capita Poles are pisspoor compared to most West Europeans.

If Cap was real, he'd vote republican and beat up technicoloured abhumanoids for disrespecting veterans and burning the flag. Hell, you could write an amazing miniseries about his doubts and descent into bitterness.

>All anti-fascists are communists
They literally are in Europe where we've had official communist parties for decades.

And what are doing to stop it?

Fascist is an even more vague term than nazi, sjw, racist etc, mainly used by people far to the left who support physical and socio-economic abuse of everyone who has a backbone and resists them ie “fascists”.

People tried voting for Trump, but any attempt was autistically denied by the opposition, because they’re “on the right side of history” even though all statistics in America and Europe points to the opposite.

Trump seems to, ironically, care more about Israel now which the smarter /pol/tards called 3 years ago.

>in Europe. Nigeria for example
My fucking sides!

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I mean, you are no different from those who scream "Orange man bad" all the time if you say shit like that and ignore all contexts. such as the disastrous policies that came around the Crack epidemic and its long-term after effects (as if the law wasn't already biased before that time) and that's just the tip of the iceberg.