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Heaven doesn't exist.

heaven seems boring if everything is just handed to you and you never have to work for anything

Happy 303 day lads!

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heaven is resting upon gary's grizzled chest

>le special day for the softest team in the entire league
>ow another injury what the fuck

I HEAR YOUR VOICE INSIDE ME
I SEE YOUR FACE
EVERYWHERE

so you got plans for international womyns week yet?

Are you okay?

wahoo fgt

EIGHT POINT FIVE IS TOO MUCH!

IT'S NO SURPRISE TO ME
I AM MY OWN WORST ENEMY

Keep at it little buddy. Every seething post you make will make your tears taste that much sweeter in June.

You okay? The avalanche are living nice and comfy in your head in raleigh?

>june
im sure it will since it'd be at least a month since your soft pusy team played a game

Great post

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>panthers to retire #1 for Luongo
uh... okay?

the good ol days
youtube.com/watch?v=2zRbn1jkzfs

>luongo getting to see the kitties getting massacred by the br00ns

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right in the childhood. I miss this kind of hockey

>calling the panthers the kitties

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>wojak
Opinion discarded

i too miss unskilled plugs skating around like retards

why did gary have to ruin the good ol days
youtube.com/watch?v=6B1-c3y_Vng

>rags

I too didn’t enjoy fighting and rivalry’s actually being good

>rivalry’s
based retard

just tune into the pyrite paladins and reaves has you covered

If you care about grammar so much

>just go to the literature board if you expect fully grown adults to be able to communicate properly
based retard

youtu.be/dZrdJpW3fbI

>-45

Anything to report about the Nashville tornado that pertains to tonight's game in Dallas? did anyone from Edmonton get delayed?

u mad breh

I think edmontons fine

Your all based retards.

ay, y u so ups'et homie?

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Hey... thanks

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didnt sound like they had any flight issues

Baseball sabermetrics:
"Winning on the cheap."

Hockey analytics:
"Losing with the most expensive team."

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>"sport" is so boring you have to create spreadsheets tracking "advanced stats" all game to stay entertained
lmao fucking cringe

checked and absolutely based

>cheapest team still chokes
>cheapest team still sucks
>BUT THE HECKIN SHEETARINO SAYS THAT HE CAN HIT THAT BALL AT A CERTAIN ANGLE

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"Spreadsheets" is 1998-tier. A total anachronism. Baseball sabermetrics is now on about the 4th generation and is about advanced physics and minute in-game tendencies.

Hockey "analytics", on the other hand, is literally just like a retarded little brother copying the superficial mannerisms of his big brother, but not achieving any of his success because he's a fucking retard.

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Don't care

youtube.com/watch?v=qj-S7wwqakY

>my version of excel is way more advanced than yours! you dont understand how truly boring this sport really is!
lmao

based gary implementing smart pucks before boreball cucks can even comprehend adding smart equipment

>best team
>best logo
>best jersey
>best players
>best goalie tandem
>best most recent month (Feb) of play
>best fans
>best fans in /hoc/
>best ice (top 5)
>makes /hoc/ seethe 24/7
Reminder.

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>best most recent month (Feb) of play
according to unofficial statistics*

How so?

just fuck each others assholes already faggots. we dont need another day of this.

Shut the fuck up all of you before I call norge

good lord i don't know how i still have a job

You're not getting it, dummy:
"Spreadsheets" are literally a 1990s-era sabermetrics tool. A spreadsheet couldn't even handle the computations of 90% of the formulas used in sabermetrics today. A database program is the floor for such work.

Regardless, baseball sabermetrics was put into practice and achieved immediate and irrefutable success. Hockey analytics has been a miserable failure, yet you all prostrate yourself before these snake oil salesmen as though they're all Theo Epstein. Because you're retarded Canadians who didn't grasp the spirit in which Bill James wrote, but just copied the attitude.

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goto nhl.com right now and rank the standings by point percentage then report back with a screen shot of your findings

here we go again

Go to nhl.com and rank the standings by month then report back with a screen shot of your findings

>Theo Epstein
>cubs
Wow great fucking example to use: the fucking cubs who haven’t made the playoffs since 2017. Guess you’ll defend the clown of a GM brodie van waganen is and how hes essentially baseballs kyle dumbass

>baseball is better because we have analytics
no wonder fans are heading out in drives to watch

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Agreed
make your own thread or we declare a dog pile on You and Your Lover

>only one team uses analytics
how fucking dumb can you people be

not until you report the results i asked for first

>no you still arent getting it! my version of excel even has fancy graphics to track random bullshit! look how entertaining this sport is when all of us are playing around with a spreadsheet on our computer with the """"sport"""" on as background noise!
yea you are really convincing me this isnt the most boring "sport" out there

>no argument

Thanks for your concession bud!

They don’t even give harsher punishments to the team that cheated. I don’t care they played the two biggest fucking teams, you cheated and that’s all the punishment you should be ashamed of yourself.

Thinking about killing self if >we lose tonight

>deflection
tyfyc

I got it

We made a /hoc/ thread for hockey talk, and a hockey analytics thread
>/hoc_anal/

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Oh hey soccerfaggots are shitting up the thread again.

Why?

>n-no you

Thanks for another concession bud! Gonna try to beat yesterday's record?

>Blues general manager Doug Armstrong was an early adopter, beginning to use analytics when he was in Dallas, and he uses the same outside company now that he did with the Stars. There are numbers that are game-specific that Hitchcock gets and numbers that are more big picture, which can be used in determining a free agent’s fit with the team. (Think of it as Moneypuck.) Armstrong says there are three or four numbers that he looks at regularly. He won’t name them.

why do they need lmao >mememetrics when the players are all wearing buzzers to identify pitches?

Wow you actually used an example of a good GM using them

I don’t mind it when they bully liverpool

Money buys championships in MLB.

>Moneypuck
wow

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this coming from the guy who responded to my request with his own request
still waiting for my screenshot
tyfyc

You're really pissed that the marquee NHL and Canadian team is spending the most money of all and is barely a fringe playoff team, aren't you?

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guaranteed hes looking at +/-

I don’t give a shit because this board obsesses so much over one team

7612
7640
niggers kys

What the fuck is Minnesota's problem?

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no i love when the laffs are failing. i dont need to create a fancy spreadsheet to stay entertained when they are losing to a fucking zamboni driver either. shame the same cant be said about your "sport".

Sure bud, here ya go. Let's see yours now!

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Maybe. But money definitely does NOT buy championships in hockey.

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my quality metrics are abysmal
i just shitpost while working so i don't pay enough attention to what i'm doing

The leafs lost because the canes played defense in front of that goalie. Wow

what do you do?

Media bullshit. There is no such system in hockey, there never has been, and there never will be.

Yes, GMs look at "statistics". Everybody does. But pretending this is "hockey analytics" as portrayed in the media is retarded. Hockey is a game of flow and instant reactions to strategies. Baseball is a game of routine and episodic, isolated, quantified actions. They're fundamentally different, and this is why hockey's pathetic attempts to copy sabermetrics (they literally even ape the word "Moneyball" they're so unoriginal) have failed catastrophically in Toronto.

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the cantpucks played defense in front of their nhl-calibre tender and lost to those same laffs. why didnt your spreadsheet predict that happening?

Moneyball never works because the A’s don’t fucking pay their players at all. The moment they get good and want more money they leave.

>retard accredits the use of analytics to one team
>leaf who's just as dumb replies calling both baseball analytics and hockey analytics memes
the fuck is wrong with this place

here we go, vegas is ranked 4th!
how can the best performer of the month be behind 3 other teams?

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I never said shit on the spreadsheets. Some teams can play a FUCKING DEFENSE in front of a goalie, and others don’t. The leafs were braindead retards that night and let the canes walk all over them.

my team is winning the cup so haha

work from home rating websites
been doing this since 2011 but they recently changed a bunch of things and now the job is much tougher

And yet your own proof proves otherwise.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thanks not only for the laugh bud, but also your concession!

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based my team winning it all

pretty sure chayka brought memestats to the nhl before dubas was even hired by the laffs. he just did it for the puppers so nobody noticed.

my team may or may not win the cup

since when did the nhl start determining the standings ranks by point percentage?

Mondale was from there
Also Reagan was a piece of shit

>21>22
What did he mean by this? Do you think rakell is better than mcdavid because he potted more goals but had less points? Or those Twitter retards who think that nichuskin>drai

'Moneyball' circa 2000 had some very real and very proven advantages. Most simply, they valued players based upon their ability to create runs (using those stats which best measure that, and which best predict that going forward). Many other teams either didn't use the advanced stats, or didn't use them with enough consistency or discipline.

However, as the industry grew and the fantasy sports industry grew, soon the stats grew so sophisticated and advanced (now including advanced physics) that you literally had to be a smart, paid, professional to have the time to process it all.

Since when has 76.7% been a better average than 80.1%

Don't worry, I'll wait!

Until then, thanks for your concession!

22>21

Basic math

How do you rate /hoc/

so all your fancy tracked stats couldnt explain that loss, huh? you just ended up using the good ol eye test in the end. thanks for confirming mememetrics is total bullshit just used to keep mouthbreathers entertained.

So two expensive, fringe playoff teams use hockey's retarded attempts to copy baseball analysis tools.

When will they finally say, "This is a failure"?

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>implying 21 is a bigger number than 23

Why the fuck did hurricanes trade for vatanen when he can't even play?

Never said shit on that at all supporting le spreadsheets. I think they’re retarded and an eye test can judge a player better than retarded analytics.

22 is bigger than 21 good job.

However, it took more games for them to get there.

RMYT huh bud!

Now explain how 80.1% is smaller than 76.7%!

Don't worry, I'll wait!

Thanks for your concesions buds!

who knows?

grim/10

I don't want to catch stupid from "debating" with you "people" but you can't accredit the use of analytics to one team when it's used by everyone

I order a hamburger from the concession stand
They need more defenseman MORE I TELL YOU

how can they even compare the 2 sports? one is a freeflowing sport where players have to transition from offensive to defensive roles as the puck moves from zone to zone and the other is a sport that is completely compartmentalized and players have a break between offensive and defensive roles. also boreball doesnt even have a salary cap so why do teams care about fielding a budget roster when you can just buy championships?

What is "used by everyone"? Statistics?

Yes, we know that every hockey fan uses statistics.

>22 is bigger than 21 good job
then you agree that vegas was not the best performing team
>However, it took more games for them to get there.
this is why the standing are ranked by total points
>Now explain how 80.1% is smaller than 76.7%!
80.1 is the larger unofficial number

And baseball also requires other shit like “oh I need a lefty in the lineup just because big pitcher dude struggles against X and use this catcher because he’s able to throw speedy gonzales out”. Hockey doesn’t need that shit unless you want to know how fast someone can skate or how fast they rip a puck. For players, who cares? A 4th liner does his job as good as anyone is suitable

>no argument
Thanks for your concession!
>then you agree that vegas was not the best performing team
Objectively false. Which is clear based on point percentage based on games played. Once again, 80.1 is greater than 76.7.

Thanks for your concession!

>Teams can't just "buy a championship".
>Baseball has a luxury tax which has gotten so severe that even mega-franchises like the Red Sox dump salary to avoid it. This is a de facto salary cap (though admittedly not as leveling a force as hockey's cap).
>Teams still either (a) want to or (b) must be ecnomically efficient. Even if you could, theoretically, "buy a championship" for a trillion dollars, you'd lose money. These are businesses that want to PROFIT.

wow you are a total retard that obviously cant even skate lmao. you dont even understand how important it is for the centerman to be on a certain side for a faceoff, but you think that >muh lefty vs righty is so important in boreball.

shut the fuck up retard holy fuck

Hey where’s my hamburger I asked for a concession not this wall of text? The hell dude
It’s important no shit.

>no argument
Concession accepted. Thanks bud!

I agree entirely. This is why Kyle Dubas deserves so much credit for being able to wear his fake eyeglasses, pretend to be a math prodigy (he's not), and dazzle you by aping the superficial mannerisms of Billy Beane and 'Moneyball', while (a) it's not applicable in hockey, and (b) even if it were applicable he's too stupid to grasp it.

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Where’s my fucking burger?

dafuq u so mad about? Don't even know what the fuck you're raging about.

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>no argument
Yup, there's another one (concession), thanks bud!

>Which is clear based on point percentage based on games played
which is not a stat the nhl uses to rank the standings
note in this image there is no point percentage to rank the teams by
also not how the nhl ranks tampa below st louis despite tampa having a higher point percentage

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shut the fuck up you retarded cunt

How so? You can clearly see otherwise in .

Thanks for your concession though bud!

Finally a good post.

of course you don't know, you're stupid enough to rant about "analytics"

john chayka was one of the first one to bring meme advanced stats to the nhl. pretty sure he even worked with a company that tracked those "stats" before becoming a gm. he was hired by the puppers 2 years before dubas took over the laffs. why arent you spurging at him? i dont even like dubas but you arent even getting your history right.

lol Captain Sweden

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Yo I ordered a hamburger (concession), so give me one

>no argument
Concession accepted! I appreciate it bud.

well, the autism filter is going apeshit. Catch you tomorrow /hoc/

Retard alert.......I’ll alert my discord

they will still be spurging tomorrow tho

that is not a screen shot of the standings page as i explicitly requested
do you deny this?

>no argument
Aaaand , what's that?

Another concession?

Yeah?

Got it!

Thanks bud!

hide stubs

urgh...gagashka

why are those logo backwards?

>denies objective proof
KWAB and TYFYCB

Got any other big brained ideas to prove your own argument wrong?

HAHAHAHAH
TYFYCB!

why is india backwards?

Stop touching your face.

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who denied that the point percentage was higher?
explain to me why the nhl ranks the blues higher than tampa bay when reviewing the league standings

>who denied that the point percentage was higher?
So you're admitting that you don't have an argument, got it!

Nice doing business with ya bud!

Thanks for your concession!

>REMINDER:
There are unironic Hurricanes fans on this board. Bully on sight.

a curvy spine is the devils roller coaster

>So you're admitting that you don't have an argument, got it!
hardly since you ignored my argument entirely
ill repeat it again
explain to me why the nhl ranks the blues higher than tampa bay when reviewing the league standings

>championships in 20 years
Canadian team: 0
Hurricanes: 1

>hardly
Then why was the first line of your response a literal concession?

Why would I bother to keep reading any of your posts at that point?

Don't worry, I'll wait!

Thanks for another concession though bud!

Based Almighty God punishing sunbelt anime redditors so hard the Bridgestone is now a homeless shelter

sw**es are the worst posters on /hoc/: change my mind

who had the high point percentage was never in question
the argument has always been who the best performing team in feb which was colorado as proven here if point percentage mattered the nhl would rank tampa bay ahead of the st louis in the standings, but we clearly see the blues ahead of them here
why is that?

copey is posting right now

>who had the high point percentage was never in question
And he concedes the argument again.

Thanks for another concession bud! I hope this has been cathartic for ya!

comfy is just a code word for boring desu

You do realize those people lost their homes right?

copey copey
better not drop the soapy
'cause if you do
you'll find that you blew
a greasy cock
that's been all around the Vegas block

>deflects away from the argument again
if point percentage mattered the nhl would rank tampa bay ahead of the st louis in the standings, but we clearly see the blues ahead of them here
(You)
why is that?

change my mind is just a code for do the research for me

Because Tampa has played less games than them retard. Thanks for your concession though!

How many times are you going to lose your own argument?

KWAB!

Chayka: 2nd most expensive team in NHL
Dubas: 1st most expensive team in NHL

Yet both are fringe playoff teams.

I really don't follow the Coyotes, nor do we actually know how decisions are actually being made (versus what Chayka tells the media to spin a good yarn). But I do know that you cannot escape the Toronto media boasting that Dubas is such a genius that "other teams are terrified of dealing with him". (Srsly, this was a meme going around last summer in the Toronto media.)

the retards who bitch about analytics they don't understand all the time are way worse
i don't even care what measures a team uses to succeed but i'm just so tired of seeing such boundless idiocy get posted

I don’t keep up with sunbelt happenings or news

>Because Tampa has played less games than them retard.
ah so when the team are ranked its total points that matter
you have finally admitted it
thank you for your concession

People died and lost their homes and the nashville arena is generous enough to give them someplace to stay. At least have some sympathy even if they are sunbelters. What if that happened to you?

you do know AAV isnt how much the team actually "costs", right? like with the faceoffs, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about and for some reason are still trying to force mememetrics on to hockey.

TORONTO
>Have most expensive team in NHL
>Have 4 of NHL's top 50 players (as judged by hockey media)
>Have mutliple financial advantages (front-loading contracts, promotion boosts to augment contracts, etc)
>Still be fringe playoff team

I, too, am tired of such "boundless idiocy". Do words like, "liability", "responsibility", "accountability", etc. have any place? How many more hundreds of millions have to be wasted before people say, "It's a failure"?

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Thinking about cute swedish boys

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You're correct: The AAV for Toronto actually UNDERSTATES how much they pay because they're so rich they frontload contracts (which smaller market teams cannot afford to do). This costs them the Time Value of Money (Interest + Investments) which means that they're actually paying (Salary Cap * 1.2) or thereabouts. I'd have to get an accountant to quantify exactly how much more than the base salary cap figure the Laffs are ACTUALLY paying.

do you want me to do more research for you, retard? it was never meant to be a magic bullet, teams just use it to get an edge over other teams
>Karmanos' first priority is analytics
nhl.com/penguins/news/karmanos-first-priority-is-analytics/c-722566
we all knew what came next
>blackhawks became the first team to win multiple cups since the introduction of the 2005 salary cap
sporttechie.com/how-the-chicago-blackhawks-success-with-analytics-and-tech-is-changing-the-nhl/
i can go on if need be

>Time Value of Money
lmao who the fuck cares about that stat other than mouthbreathing retards who think that doing basic statistics makes them a mathematical genius

>tuch will never wrap his loving arms around you the way he does for wild bill

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the fuck are you retards fighting about now?

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hockey is not for you, you fucking faggot

which one of us gets to kill you

>Hundreds of millions of dollars wasted on failed team
>Hundreds of millions of dollars = pointless, "basic statistics" to Laffs

The Laffs don't just lose....they lose EXPENSIVELY.

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Thinking about taking a car nap before the penguins game starts at 4.

>still understands nothing
you're a lost cause man

How so?

The teams with the highest point percentages will be ranked higher when teams have played the same amount of games.

Thanks for your concession though bud!

jonathan marchessault is a MANLET

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Make a point instead of just rage-posting.

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which swede is cuter

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I can't get ahold of my grandparents. They live in Nashville. Halp.

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>The teams with the highest point percentages will be ranked higher when teams have played the same amount of games.
if that point percentage was sustained then theoretically that could be true, however the las vegas golden knights currently have a 00.00000000000 win% in the month of march

I'm sure they're ok. I wouldn't worry too much fren.

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>the las vegas golden knights currently have a 00.00000000000 win% in the month of march
Yup, that's true, but when was that ever up for argument?

Oh, it wasn't?

You're just trying your last ditch effort at grasping at straws after being btfo?

Yeah?

Got it! Thanks for your concession bud!

it can't be attributed to laffs when it's used by every team, as i said

it is a pointless statistic to the laffs and their ownership. they are owned by a massive billion dollar corporation. they dont care about throwing money away or else they wouldnt own 4 different teams. if they really cared about money like you are suggesting why would they take on LTIR contracts from other teams like nathan horton and then pay him $5mill to never play in the nhl?

>You're just trying your last ditch effort at grasping at straws after being btfo?
didnt you just suggest that the golden knights could only theoretically be better than the colorado avalanche over the course of february?
reality is the golden knights were not the best team last month
tyfyc

>the fuck are you retards fighting about now?

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>golden knights could only theoretically be better than the colorado avalanche over the course of february
Nope, they were objectively better than every team in the league in regards to points accrued in relation to games played.

Thanks for your concession though bud!

>no Perds players died last night
Shame

pekka was blown away by the soilers tho

how do you describe what happened to rinne then?

whys gabben holding that?

My incel grandkid keeps calling me. God I hate that fag lol.

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>leafs have a 90% chance of making the playoffs
some fringe playoff team

He was dead already, not attributed to the tornados

>Nope, they were objectively better than every team in the league in regards to points accrued in relation to games played.
this isnt the how the nhl ranks teams, if points accrued in relations to game played mattered then tampa bay would be ranked ahead of st louis in the standings but as we see here
st louis is ranked ahead due to their total points of 88 making them the second best team in the league

>tampa bay would be ranked ahead of st louis in the standings
Yup, but the Blues have had more opportunities to win games. If Tampa has a better point percentage when the same amount of games have been played, they'll be ranked higher.

RMYT huh bud!

Thanks for your concession though!

that would require tampa bay to sustain their point percentage across games that havent been played yet
as we know with the knights game this month that point percentage was not sustained

Where was it implied that the Golden Knights had sustained their point percentage in March?

Don't worry, I'll wait!

Thanks for your concession though bud! I appreciate it!

youtube.com/watch?v=khK9fIgoNjQ

>nashville literally blown away
>panthers are lol tier
>lightning are inconsistent and just lost their captain to an injury
>carolina best player this season was a zamboni driver
>arizona doubtful for the playoffs despite adding an all-star/former hart winner
>vegas stuck in purgatory with their roster and hitting the cap despite being an expansion team, mark stone out
>kings are still shit but can't even be the best at being shit
>san jose lost their highly valued defender for the rest of the season, couldn't trade their franchise legend who begged to be traded, traded their first round pick for this draft and are having one of their worst seasons in recent memory
>anaheim ducks still shit
imagine being a sunbelt fan lol

Is he coming over?

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you cant add dallas?

>vegas stuck in purgatory with their roster
How so?

>Where was it implied that the Golden Knights had sustained their point percentage in March?
there were no more games for them to play in february which means they could have only theoretically have matched the avalanche's point total
if you rank teams by theoretical points that is your business, but the nhl ranks them by total points
which means
>best most recent month (Feb) of play
needs an *

more cups on that list than canada for the last 30 years

How so? They had the best percentage of points accrued in relation to games played?

Don't worry, I'll wait!

Until then, I accept your concession bud. Thanks!

Expensive contracts that no one would take if they want to dump.

and 0 cups since 2007. I beg to differ

And what contracts would those be?

>not knowing your teams contracts

kings won in 2014 friend

Name a player: it’s them

>no argument
Thanks for your concessions buds!

i forget the kings are sunbelt and those were two shit finals.

I think the knight's worst contract is probably fleury's

The season's almost over and they're still subject to miss the playoffs.
All with a massive payroll.
>laffs

>Nope, they were objectively better than every team in the league in regards to points accrued in relation to games played.
this isnt the how the nhl ranks teams, if points accrued in relations to game played mattered then tampa bay would be ranked ahead of st louis in the standings but as we see here
(You)
st louis is ranked ahead due to their total points of 88 making them the second best team in the league

william karlsson
>MUH 40 GOAL CAMPAIGN FROM 2018 MEANS IM WORTH NEARLY 6 MILLION

>if points accrued in relations to game played mattered then tampa bay would be ranked ahead of st louis
Yup, and if they have the higher point percentage when both teams have played the same amount of games, they will be ranked higher.

Thanks for your concession though bud!

>it doesn't count because I say so
Sure thing. Meanwhile based snowbelt chads like winnipeg and minnesota have zero cups ever.
rmyt

>what contracts
Not to mention the peons are over the cap for next year

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>winnichug
>Minnisomalia
nice cherrypicking

>they will be ranked higher.
there were no more games for them to play in february which means they could have only theoretically have matched the avalanche's point total
if you rank teams by theoretical points that is your business, but the nhl ranks them by total points
which means
>best most recent month (Feb) of play
needs an *

forgot about them, they're doing decently this year. not the best season but they're doing well.
dealt their backup/prospect for a player who will be UFA this year and will demand a long-term contract. got rid of the cheap Gusev for basically nothing and never gave him a chance to begin with, only 4 forwards even under 25, patches locked up on a 7 million dollar deal for 3 more years, Marchessault for 5 million for 4 more years, Schmidt with a modified NTC until 2025 on a 5.9 million deal.
Their only choice is to extent some players and let a lot go. Regardless, this team isn't upgrading in the future and will continue to essentially be non-players in the marketplace with a team that isn't good enough to win a cup and not shit enough to miss the playoffs.
>muh canada argument
look at my flag retard

thank you

>paying $7.5m for a goalie that lets in 4 goals on 17 shots
OH NO NO NO NO AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

>look at my flag retard
What about it?

how is schmidt worth 6 million?

translat pls

>no argument
Thanks for your concession bud!
How so?

They accrued the most points in relation to games played.

Thanks for your concession though bud!
>dealt their backup/prospect for a player who will be UFA this year and will demand a long-term contract
Are you implying finding a backup better than Malcolm Subban will be hard? Or that the "prospect" given up has more than a 20% chance of making the NHL?
>got rid of the cheap Gusev for basically nothing and never gave him a chance to begin with
How is 5 million a year cheap for a third-line player who had never proved himself in the NHL?
>patches locked up on a 7 million dollar deal for 3 more years
And he's the second highest scorer on the team, sounds like a pretty good deal for a short term before he's too old
>Marchessault for 5 million for 4 more years
Ahh yes, another bargain for a great goal scorer
>Schmidt with a modified NTC until 2025 on a 5.9 million deal
A great deal for a top pairing defenseman? Who would've guessed?

Keep dreamin' big though bud! Thanks for your concession!

/hoc/ sure is worked into a tizzy today

>They accrued the most points in relation to games played.
there were no more games for them to play in february which means they could have only theoretically have matched the avalanche's point total
if you rank teams by theoretical points that is your business, but the nhl ranks them by total points
which means
>best most recent month (Feb) of play
needs an *

>copey doesn’t know how contracts work
Not surprised even slightly. Enjoy that negative cap space

How so?

They accrued the most points in relation to games played, which objectively makes them the best performing team in the month of February 2020.

Thanks for your concession though bud!

its called on topic discussion

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Fleury's contract was always going to end up bad due to his age.

Considering the janny is from /cric/ it makes sense that copey isn’t banned

concessionposter is arguably worse than kippers

>no argument
Thanks for your concession bud!

>which objectively makes them the best performing team in the month of February 2020
theoretically speaking
which means
>best most recent month (Feb) of play
needs an *

relax don, don't want you going off about "those people" again

Actually March is the most recent month, and the Peons have a losing record in march

>theoretically speaking
How so?

Are you arguing that an 80.1% is less than 76.7%?

Don't worry, I'll wait!

Until then, thanks for your concession bud!

You're saying a business....doesn't care about profit margins?

Brill'ynt take.

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Where was it implied otherwise bud?

Don't worry, I'll wait!

Until then, thanks for your concession bud!

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Reminder that the Wild are going to knock the Cuckies out of the playoffs and it’s going to be hilarious

the laffs are still generating them tons of revenue and profit, so yea, its basically more business expenses.

And due to the fact he's performed up to his contract's standards once, since 2010

>How so?
there were no more games for them to play in february which means they could have only theoretically have matched the avalanche's point total
>Are you arguing that an 80.1% is less than 76.7%?
no at all, however this isnt the how the nhl ranks teams, if points accrued in relations to game played mattered then tampa bay would be ranked ahead of st louis in the standings
which means
>best most recent month (Feb) of play
needs an *

>it’s soon going to be a 3-way tie for last in the Western conference

who? im sorry who is gonna knock what out of a playoff spot?

>>Are you arguing that an 80.1% is less than 76.7%?
>no at all
Got it, thanks for your concession bud!

The surging minnesota wild

whom?

BIG DICK SWINGIN

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I disagree with your thesis that businesses don't care about profit margins.

More to the point, I disagree with the thesis that a losing hockey team which is the LEAST economically efficient franchise in hockey is the heir apparent to 'Moneyball'. The Laffs are literally the OPPOSITE of 'Moneyball': Overpay for superstars (and lose).

>dealt their backup/prospect for a player who will be UFA this year
This was all about improving on Subban.

>no argument
tyfyc

How so?

You conceded your argument based on the quotation.

Nice try though bud! I accept your concession.

>Are you implying finding a backup better than Malcolm Subban will be hard
No, but finding a good goaltender to succeed Flower will be difficult unless Lehner is seen as his successor.
>How is 5 million a year cheap for a third-line player who had never proved himself in the NHL?
He was never given the chance despite proving more than his worth in the KHL and national team, and he's on a 4.5 million dollar contract. Along with that Gusev has been one of the best Devils player this season, only has upside from here on out and would be even better with a good team.
>And he's the second highest scorer on the team, sounds like a pretty good deal for a short term before he's too old
He's 31, he's going to heavily decline before it even finishes.
>Ahh yes, another bargain for a great goal scorer
>complains that you wouldn't keep a third-liner for 5 million
>instead wants to keep a first-liner for the same who only has 2 more points and is 2 years older
kek
>A great deal for a top pairing defenseman? Who would've guessed?
A 28 year old defender under contract until 2025 is a good deal? especially when he's been outplayed by theodore?
You're the type of guy who seriously thinks line-position matters, that first is always the best line. That's beyond retarded.
for what? the playoffs? for one last shot? they're not keeping him long-term

>You conceded your argument based on the quotation.
if you rank teams by theoretical points that is your business, but the nhl ranks them by total points
which means
>best most recent month (Feb) of play
needs an *

Thomas Vanek

Nolan, Patrick

fuck the vanek trade and fuck garth snow

they still generate the most revenue out of any team in the league. sure most businesses want to find ways to reduce their expenses to increase profits but they are basically buying publicity since they are always going to be in the news whenever they do anything related to hockey. you are the one trying to put a dollar value on that publicity while they dont seem to care about it at all. they even went out this trade deadline and took on retained salary from lehner for some reason. seems like they just bought some publicity rather than making a "hockey move".

>No, but finding a good goaltender to succeed Flower will be difficult unless Lehner is seen as his successor.
Nice what-ifs bud! Dream big!
>despite proving more than his worth in the KHL and national team, and he's on a 4.5 million dollar contract
And yet, he was scratched multiple games this year. RMYT!
>He's 31, he's going to heavily decline before it even finishes.
Uh oh, is that more hopes and dreams without any objective fact?

Yeah?

HAHAHA
>kek
No argument huh bud? Got it!
>A 28 year old defender under contract until 2025 is a good deal? especially when he's been outplayed by theodore?
Yep, especially since the late 20s is when goaltenders generally come into their own.
>You're the type of guy who seriously thinks line-position matters, that first is always the best line. That's beyond retarded.
How so?

Don't worry, I'll wait! Thanks for your myriad concessions though!
How so?

Are you arguing that an 80.1% is less than 76.7%?

Don't worry, I'll wait!

Until then, thanks for your concession bud!

Man, that's a tough call.

Owen Nolan

roy, derek

>How so?
there were no more games for them to play in february which means they could have only theoretically have matched the avalanche's point total
>Are you arguing that an 80.1% is less than 76.7%?
no at all, however this isnt the how the nhl ranks teams, if points accrued in relations to game played mattered then tampa bay would be ranked ahead of st louis in the standings
which means

sometimes kippers would post entertaining images at least

nah its a good one. at least kippers didnt have a gimmick that derailed /hoc/ this badly

>>Are you arguing that an 80.1% is less than 76.7%?
>no at all
Got it, thanks for your concession bud!

I think it's Patrick Nolan. No parents can be so retarded that they give their son a first name as a surname and vice versa

Hecht, Jochen

>no argument
thank you for your concession

pyatt, tom

How so?

You conceded your argument based on the quotation.

Nice try though bud! I accept your concession.

O'Flaherty, Peanuts

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F

is nolan patrick still dead? do you think he looks back at the 102point season he had in the dub and thinks i could have been a star?

A fraud

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>You conceded your argument based on the quotation.
if you rank teams by theoretical points that is your business, but the nhl ranks them by total points
which means
>best most recent month (Feb) of play
needs an *

>Nice what-ifs bud! Dream big!
Refusing to argue against a point will be seen as you admitting defeat
>And yet, he was scratched multiple games this year. RMYT!
Yet he still has solid point-total despite being, as you said, a third line player.
>Uh oh, is that more hopes and dreams without any objective fact?
>Yeah?
>HAHAHA
>No argument huh bud? Got it!
the argument was made in the greet text but I guess you're too retarded to pay attention.
>Yep, especially since the late 20s is when goaltenders generally come into their own.
Oh yeah, Nate Schmidt as your goaltender. There's an idea.
>How so?
You described Gusev as a third-liner as if that somehow meant his effectiveness was less. Ironically he still has one of the best totals on the Devils. I guess the fact you dealt him for fucking peanuts doesn't matter.

his back could've been healthier if anything. Hes another pavel brendl if you think about it minus the fact he isnt czech.

>He is of Ukrainian descent through his paternal grandfather, with the original family surname being "Patrebka."[33]

>concession posting off the rails
this thread needs to 404

>for what? the playoffs? for one last shot? they're not keeping him long-term
Yes, for the playoffs. They want a guy who can be turned to as a 1B.

hint hint: filter the fucking word for gods sake

How so?

Are you arguing that an 80.1% is less than 76.7%?

Don't worry, I'll wait!

Until then, thanks for your concession bud!
>Refusing to argue against a point will be seen as you admitting defeat
How so? Arguing against your hypothetical dreams?

You've already lost that one.
>Yet he still has solid point-total despite being, as you said, a third line player.
Yet he's an overpaid 3rd liner, which is fine for a shit team, so he fits well on New Jersey.
>the argument was made in the greet text but I guess you're too retarded to pay attention.
Ahh, seething ad hominem?

Got it!

Ya have nothing left huh bud!
>Oh yeah, Nate Schmidt as your goaltender. There's an idea.
Not smart enough to realize I meant defensemen there huh bud! I guess that can be a big win for ya huh?

KWAB
>You described Gusev as a third-liner as if that somehow meant his effectiveness was less
Yep, it's an objective fact he's a third liner! Th

Thanks for your concession though bud!

reminder that filters are for little babbies

>muh theoretical points
which means
>best most recent month (Feb) of play
needs an *

poo peeland

How so?

Are you arguing that an 80.1% is less than 76.7%?

Don't worry, I'll wait!

Until then, thanks for your concession bud!

>muh theoretical points
there were no more games for them to play in february which means they could have only theoretically have matched the avalanche's point total
which means
>best most recent month (Feb) of play
needs an *

Goose has been one of our better players. He's on the second line, too.

How so?

Are you arguing that an 80.1% is less than 76.7%?

Don't worry, I'll wait!

Until then, thanks for your concession bud!
>second line
Someone should tell that to the team then bud!

Thanks for your concession though!

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>Arguing against your hypothetical dreams?
Arguing the Knights will find a goaltender after Flower is done.
>Yet he's an overpaid 3rd liner, which is fine for a shit team, so he fits well on New Jersey.
And Marchessault is an overpaid first liner, according to your logic.
>Ahh, seething ad hominem?
You didn't read the point and claim it's seething, you're literally digging yourself deeper into this the more you post.
>Not smart enough to realize I meant defensemen there huh bud! I guess that can be a big win for ya huh?
If you meant to say something you're supposed to say it, not mean to say it.
>Yep, it's an objective fact he's a third liner! Th
And that has no weight whatsoever on a player's quality.

filters are for chads

>Someone should tel that to the team then bud!
He's with Bratt and Zacha.

Chads just ignore it, virgin.

I only filter sweden

you wouldnt filter this cute lil babby tuatara would you?

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why did you repeat your argument? i have answered all your questions several times

Depends, what concessions does he offer?

i still ignore him whenever he gets past them

Because you're a sensitive n word, randy

tuatara does not understand the meaning of concession

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>Arguing the Knights will find a goaltender after Flower is done.
Well I can guarantee you they'll find a goaltender, otherwise they won't be playing any games huh bud?

Wouldn't that be silly?
>And Marchessault is an overpaid first liner, according to your logic.
How so? His AAV is quite low for a first liner.
>You didn't read the point and claim it's seething, you're literally digging yourself deeper into this the more you post.
How so?

Don't worry, I'll wait!
>If you meant to say something you're supposed to say it, not mean to say it.
Ahh yes the ol' non-argument.

You're doing great bud, keep it up!
>And that has no weight whatsoever on a player's quality.
How so?

Don't worry, I'll wait!

Thanks for your concession though bud!
Yup, notice how it's listed there as the third line?

Or are ya blind there bud?

Don't worry, I'll wait!

Thanks for your concession though bud!
>repeat your argument
How so?

Are you arguing that an 80.1% is less than 76.7%?

Don't worry, I'll wait!

Until then, thanks for your concession bud!

who is randy?

yet you get sensitive over some guy filtering you

>concess
you, you fat fuck

>get btfo by the jannies so many times he’s afraid to say nigger
lol

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>concess

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my name's not randy and I'm not fat but I still consider you a good friend despite your anger

>repeats his argument again despite having all his questions answered
you concession has been accepted

How so?

Are you arguing that an 80.1% is less than 76.7%?

Answer the question bud!

Until then, thanks for your concession!

nibba

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Why are snowbelters so mad all of the time?

I’m gonna write smut of copey and Canada at this point

Their line tends to get more ice time.

And?

>answer the question bud
i have answered all your questions, yet you repeat them
yet another cncssn

Ugh I think I found /cric/ in my osrs clan

Seems like a productive use of your time.

Bank standing?

>i have answered your questions
>proceeds to not answer the question
Got it! Thanks for your concession bud!

stop responding

>having a long drawn out argument with a vegass fan where you greentext every point of the last reply

cringiest /hoc/ in a while

what are you talking about

same argument they had yesterday too

he's the vegas fan
look, he's reddit spacing

he's gay too, definitely sounds like /cric/

>no argument
keep responding about your theoretical points
tyfyc

don't see it

>everyone is me
BASED schizo
And keep dodging the questions asked that objectively refute your argument.

Thanks for your concession though bud!

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>LEAKED NHL DRAFT PICKS
SCRIPTED FUCKING LEAGUE, FUCK OFF GARY

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get ready to say good bye to the old guard of tendies. we are on the cusp on a new era of zoomer tendies who play a completely different profly style than older tendies.

>hart
already taken over the crease in just his 2nd nhl season

>samsonov
>demko
>shestyorkin
just starting their careers.

>knight
>askarov
>wallstadt
we already saw knight get drafted high in the first round. askarov and wallstadt could potentially be top10 picks in their perspective years.

>oettinger
>primeau
>sogaard
a few other highly regarded tendies down in the ahl/chl/ncaa right now

>And keep dodging the questions asked that objectively refute your argument
which question is that?
tyfyc

Are you arguing that an 80.1% is less than 76.7%?

Don't worry, I'll wait!

Thanks for your concession in advance!

What about that isles tendy in the KHL? He’s pretty good also but does he come over at the end of this season?

The hill billys haven’t won a single game since the nhl deadline HAHA!!

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>Are you arguing that an 80.1% is less than 76.7%?
theoretically speaking vegas's point percentage of 80.1% could have brought them above colorado's total points
however
there were no more games for them to play in february which means they fell short of matching colorado's point total
ranking vegas below 3 other teams for the month of feb

I think I would be disappointed if this is how it went for the Devils.

my chair still has not arrived

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he will probably be pretty good too. basically at this point more than 1/3rd of the league has a strong tendie prospect under 25 that is like a season or 2 away from becoming a regular nhler. things are going to look quite different for all teams in the goal crease quite soon.

can only imagine what the shipping was on that bad boy

it was 25 kiwi bux

Which chair, lad? My IKEA chair is 4 years old now and I didnt love it that much to begin with

>there were no more games for them to play in february which means they fell short of matching colorado's point total
Yup, so you admit that since Colorado needed more games than Vegas to accumulate their point total.

Which puts their percentage of points accrued in the amount of games played to 76.7% in comparison to Vegas' 80.1% of points accrued in the amount of games played.

Which objectively means Vegas was more successful in the month of February 2020.

Got it!

Thanks again for your concession bud!

i ordered an office chair i hope to be sitting in it later

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>Yup, so you admit that since Colorado needed more games than Vegas to accumulate their point total.
which makes colorado the better team
tampa bay has a high percentage of points accrued in the amount of games compared to st louis, yet the nhl ranked the blues ahead of the lightning
>Which objectively means Vegas was more successful in the month of February 2020.
for this to be truth you would need to rank by an unofficial stat
which means
>best most recent month (Feb) of play
needs an *

Also reminder he’s a rival with shesterkin.

>which makes colorado the better team
I never said Vegas were a better team, but I'm going to imagine that you meant the fact that we're talking about the month of February.

Anyway, how so?

Is 76.7% greater than 80.1?

Don't worry, I'll wait!

Until then, thanks for your concession bud!

>habs drafting another finnish bust

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Stay scared, m8's.

why did the rags have to be notsoshit this year
this draft class is way stronger than last year's bustfest
fuck

Your team wanted panarin

>I never said Vegas were a better team, but I'm going to imagine that you meant the fact that we're talking about the month of February.
some said it right here
>best most recent month (Feb) of play
means theoretical games would have had to be played for vegas to be ranked higher than colorado

lafreniere is already better than busto bappo

Holtz and Schneider would be good picks. Drafting a goalie first round would be odd but >we do need a backup

Shouldve never had a bad year last year then :^)

You can just say Finnish, the bust is implied.

they jumped from like 9th to 2nd actually

worried about coronavirus

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blame it on gary wanting the >rags to git gud because he saw the other new york team make the 2nd round

None of them look like bad players. I would just like to get at least one of Stutzle/Rossi/Lundell. If they do take Askarov it should be because they think he's the best player available, not a perceived need for a backup. I doubt he's the next Tom Barrasso.

>tfw philly wins the c up

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>means theoretical games would have had to be played for vegas to be ranked higher than colorado
How so?

Are you saying 76.7% is a greater number than 80.1%?

Don't worry, I'll wait!

Until then, I accept your concession bud!

fuck philthy

>tom barrasso
wat

just dont drink any beer and you'll be fine

me rn and when the nucks lose to some desert doggos tonight

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not him, but that's rude

Tomorrow, you mean

what didnt you understand about this
"theoretical games would have had to be played for vegas to be ranked higher than colorado"
i have answered your other questions, yet you repeated them

Barrasso jumped straight from US high school at 18 into the NHL.

me rn and for the next 24 hours until the nucks lose to some desert doggos

why would gary rig a shit draft

because he doesnt want the rags to be stuck in shit

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So then your argument is that 76.7% is a greater number than 80.1%?

Got it!

Maybe you should go back to school and get that GED (or Canadian equivalent).

Thanks for your concession though bud!

based NHL historically knowable poster

Not feeling too good about Tampa’s chances lads.

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>he believes that 21 is a bigger number than 23
maybe you should have stuck around high school himself

About to rip some dude, lads. What game should I put on after?

>rags/blose
>hasb/islels
>snes/pongs

NOW YOU BRATS ILL FUCKING BURY YOU INTO THE GROUND, SATAN :D(expletive)
AND LOUIE SHUT UP

UNCLEDONALD, NO
DONT DO IT ;_;

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is anyone going to the concession stand?? can you get me a skittlebrau?

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Wait fifteen minutes and watch the broons

Habs Isles for me

its not that "odd". out of the last 5 drafts, 3 of those drafts saw 1 tendie picked in the first round.

the snes are already down 2

>snes otts

Rags/Bloos

>no beer
why

r u shocked at this?

>the city of otters

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lemieux is a fucking scrub

will holtby leave the caps in FA?

Alberta fiscal collapsing good

>two pro ice games in NYC
and still you people have the temerity to bitch to Gary, the nerve

will the sun rise?

>MDC cant score on a breakaway
fuck this bust

>do they have that spicy mustard for the hot pretzels?

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glasscrash is barely a sport

t.nigball

What's it thinking about?

I hope not

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iceboxing, m8

you realize the sun dont go down
it's just an illusion caused by the world spinning round

hockey

there's more glasscrash than punches thrown

i really want some fucking skittlebrau, lads

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if the earth ain't real how can the spin be real?

i really need to know why finland says dont drink beer to save yourself from coronavirus

what about those chips that give you diarrhea? i need to do some spring cleaning.

when you drink you start finding asians attractive

because he didnt graduate high school

i don't think there's a single russian ip in the thread

Yes, hi! Can I get 4 goals in 5 minutes?

who cares

just drink heineken instead

>tfw congested and coughing but want beer

watching hawkey sober sucks, ladskis

is the 3peat, dare i say, back on?

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job interview tomorrow

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>sens
no

>most dangerous laed

Should I learn jQuery or is it just a meme?

I'm broke as hell, my attitude is no good

it says it in the name... corona.....

make sure you give a firm handshake

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what kind of 60+ hour a week job is it?

can I get a slice of pizza at the concessions stand?

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pic unrelated

will do
project management (construction company)

Dog walker

can I theoretically get a Dagwood at the concession stand? or do you think it's a specialty item with extra charges?

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So binland can have all the beer for himself

no
if you want to be a web dev there are better frameworks that build off it (angular, react, etc) and are more employable
if you dont then it wont really teach you anything useful except about asynchronous callbacks but at that point reactiveX is probably better

which game we watchin?

yay it begins again

>st. Poois

*hides from /hoc/ for a week*
is the
*opens the blinds to my RV*
threepeat
*see glorious sight of middle schoolers shooting up meth*
dare i say
*oh my mary beth, that gang o' flyers chads driving past our podunk shithole shure do be lookin scary. shut the blinds!*
back on?

>maybe you should have stuck around high school himself
Wanna try and rephrase that bud?

Also, when did I say 21 is bigger than 23?

I didn't?

The argument is that the Avs needed more games than Vegas to reach their point total in February?

Which is easily proven by the point percentages:

Avs: 76.7%
Knights: 80.1%

Got it!

Thanks for your concession though! Better luck with your grammar this time bud! :)

it's just five other sandwiches stacked on top of one another. that's not a real sandwich just because you stuck a toothpick in it.

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oh haha i get it now thanks finland

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>islels

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what it a sandwich?
is it stacked food? where do we draw the line?

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>Milbury is annoying
>Pierre is worse than annoying
It can't go on like this.

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a /hoc/ thread is a sandwich

this place is fucking dead, did copey do this?

thanks man, you've answered my web dev questions before here. it's appreciated

fake

too bad he is too awkward to get fired like roenick did

>Also, when did I say 21 is bigger than 23?
when you suggested having a higher point percentage means that vegas was ranked higher than colorado
>Which is easily proven by the point percentages
an unofficial stat when ranking teams

>muh copey bogeyman

after i get out of school, im going to learn how to ice skate
MARK MY WORDS

Fuck sandwiches, pie.

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for me its being a hardline traditionalist in most aspects of my life and not just sandwich science

how many posts have you made in this thread

getting it ready, cuck?

>having a higher point percentage means that vegas was ranked higher than colorado
I know bud! I'm glad you're starting to figure it out!

I appreciate your concession though! Thanks!

>islesweeb nowhere to be found

got to suck just punching a helmet. good way to break your fingers.

>wherelanders

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they are overflowing with adrenaline. they probably wouldnt even notice if they broke a finger.

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am I retarded?

>he rates teams by theoretical points
tyfyc

Sausage and taters for din din cause I'm a meat and taters kinda guy

no worries user, I'm glad you find it helpful. programming is my job and a hobby so I enjoy talking about it

if i can help anymore lemme know