>FantasyGP.com /f1/ League Formula Autism: Passcode: 12481614
>Number of F1 races since Vettee last clinched WDC: 124 (22 with RedBull)
>Hund status: Der coronavirus affects wir too, Hans had ein cough yesterday.
>News: MotoGP is kill Netflix haven't shown the worst t. Kmag Ferrari will give up on 2020 if they are not competitive early on Williams only suck because of sexism, not because Claire is a terrible TP
truly a man that doesn’t know what he’s doing this man is
Gavin King
Goodspeed, gatto.
Jeremiah Howard
Good to hear
Carter Wood
can't lose when your gf is more masculine than your teammate
Blake Nguyen
How come they don't allow actual proper wet races anymore? Every time it is wet, the cars are behind a safety car till the track conditions are inters, and about 5 laps from slicks.
James Peterson
LIFE TO KOT
Nathan Carter
this is a 100% gonna either be bottas worst or best season ever, leaning towards worst
>pull a NASCAR and ban racing in the rain entirely They have a far better reason for that with NASCAR unless youre too retarded to understand. They are going for single nut wheels even now, lmao.
>Two episodes of the new drive to survive >It's just become Haas to survive and every race until austria is skipped Wtf????
Chase Diaz
>All travellers entering Vietnam from China, South Korea, Italy, and Iran must carry out medical declarations and 14-day medical quarantine before entering the country.
Bye bye Vietnam
Noah Murphy
pandering to the lowest common denominator, they want burgerdollars
Carson Ortiz
It's a show about the people involved in F1 not a season recap
Jonathan Torres
Glad to read that. Godspeed, what's his name ?
>ham digits Has a trade been sealed with the devil for this ?
Is Haas the only team involved in F1 for the first 9 races?
Xavier Ramirez
Very happy to hear that lad I lost my cat of 13 years a few weeks ago and it sucks
Robert Ramirez
Haven't things gone pretty well with it in 'Nam? Doesn't surprise me they don't want it back. Maybe they should run a scooter race like they used to have at Macau in Hanoi in place of the Grand Prix.
They show things relevant to the team/person they're following that episode instead of doing everything chronologically. It's only Haas focused for the first two anyway
Colton Gomez
Didn't name him but he's called Banjo. An elderly neighbour at my old house could not care for the litter he was in
I like that we all know full well Bernie would have got round all these travel restrictions and we would be running a full season without a care in the world.
Been listening to the hella mega tour playlist and a My Chemical Romance, Jimmy Eats World, and Midnight Youth playlist lately lads.
Some fun sounding gigs coming up this year. Should probably listen to some of the music that might be at the world tour at the F1 too
Caleb Young
How frequently do they revise the travel bans? Here its every 48 hours Does it say anything about imports? Can ferrari customers still get engines?
Jaxson Wright
You have to think about the logistics though, they need a firm yes or no. Even if a ban gets cancelled they can’t just pop in there in a day and be ready. The engines might be there but the SF engineers won’t be.
Zachary Martinez
There is a ban into Bahrain for anyone who has been in Italy in the past 14 days.
We are only 17 days away from Friday Bahrain so any Italian based staff will have to leave for Australia now so they will be fine for Bahrain (assuming they don't go back to the factory).
Bentley Butler
BLESS THIS CAT
Liam Torres
I mean they could do it but should they? Or would they? They’ll be sitting on their asses for days in Australia and Bahrain. Also, it’ll be more than week they’ll be wasting doing nothing in Australia just to clear the quarantine time for Bahrain. Those are pretty precious days.
Also, make that 15 days from now, and that’s being generous, as people have to be there way before the weekend starts.
All of this are considering shit doesn’t get worse in Australia too, reports of confirmed cases are a daily occurrence in Australia now.
Tyler Barnes
Good. Health to pusser.
Samuel Rivera
Just discovered that Scotty James is fucking Chloe Stroll
Joseph Cook
okay this is epic
Adam Price
okay samefag lmao
Chase Scott
imagine a season of fucking gay MWL only because Ferrari is in guarantines and can't make the races
Anthony Roberts
Wait til you see who is fucking Lance Stroll
Dominic Moore
truly hell on earth
Michael Thomas
Useless fact I haven't used the formula1.com website since they made that stupid update like 8 years ago that got rid of the green countdown timer for the next races.
William Johnson
Watching DtS season two really makes me want to see Williams do better this year.
Josiah Perry
At least they got the car ready on time and it looks like it isn't such a huge shitboxas it has been
Blake Adams
Haven't gotten to the Willy episode yet. Does Claire still have a daddy complex and resent her job & position?
>Mercedes FIAMG invents DASAparat >FIA allows it for one season and conveniently bans it for 2021 Bravo! Great achievement! This is what F1 is about! Fucking FIA for banning it for 2021! >Ferrari invents an ingenious way to inject power into the engine >immediately banned REEE FERRARI INTERNATIONAL ASSISTANCE! BAN THEM FROM MOTORSPORT!!!
Camden Hall
din't HAAS and Alfa have the same engine? Why weren't they investigated?
Robert Fisher
Even without Corona it would have been MWL so really not that big of a deal
Why am I the only person finding DtS boring? There's literally nothing new or interesting if you watched the season. All that staged interviews/dialogues feel cringe as fuck.
Anthony Clark
because, funnily enough, ferrari were the only team with ferrari engine to use this "ingenious way to inject power into the engine". it totally wasn't blatant cheating for which they should have been thrown out from the championship, no no no. it was great idea which they forgot to share with their customer teams, using totally the same power units as regulations require :)
Kayden Howard
No, they had parts seized as well including one from a non-Ferrari team during the initial investigations.
>Mercedes does something shady like wheel rims and DAS >get to keep their innovation >not found guilty of anything GLORIOUS MERCEDES INNOVATION! >Ferrari does something shady >get to keep their innovation (for 2019 at least) >not found guilty of anything FUCKING FERRARI INTERNATIONAL ASSISTANCE!
>other teams (MUH FERRARI) have a right to protest das, wheel rims, suspension or anything else on mercedes car >they don't, because it's legal >other teams have a right to protest legality of ferrari power unit >they (red bull with honda, renault, mercedes) actually do, several technical directives are issued, fia reaches a settlement with MUH CRUCIAL TO F1 FERRARI can you cope any harder?
Leo Ross
ferrari engine was never protested you dumb cunt
Jackson Brown
>The building directly below the sun with the windows is the Gare Maritime de Monaco, so it's the main harbour, which means the photo is from the same building as the last photo but on the other side
So does Valtteri have his own apartment on the opposite side of the building, or is it just big enough to have a balcony on both sides.
I guess a “what if” question about the fuel-flow meter from Red Bull to the FIA is considered as a formal protest about Ferrari’s engine now. God, I fucking hate Poles.
Ferrari and Alpha Taureee has to fly all of their race staff to Australia right the fuck now so they can make the guarantine deadlines for Bahrain and Vietnam
Aaron Powell
>be me >put rice in rice cooker >half an hour passes >"why hasn't that beeped yet?" >investigate >I forgot to turn it on
Is being a fucking retard a symptom of Corona?
Aaron Cooper
Hope they're already in the air
Jackson Howard
I hope Monaco gets much Corona and the same restrictions apply. >Lewis has to go back to living in Stevenage
Chase Murphy
Aus government put a travel ban on Iran a couple days ago, travel ban on italy might be coming soon too.
Aiden Gray
because it's MUH FERRARI. that's why, what, 3 or 4 technical directives regarding engine were issued last year to stop their cheating, after big push from red bull, renault and mercedes who all figured out what maranello cheaters were doing >b-but it was never protested!!!1 oh no, this changes everything
btw its funny how you ignored part about mercedes. c'mon, tell us, why do you think merc aren't targeted by fia, ferrari, red bull or renault? surely at least at red bull they have balls to question legality of silver car, right? maybe it's because there's nothing to question and all you can do is cry about it like a lil bitch?
lel, about the same here. when they switched to a more mobile site look instead of a normal site
Eli Hughes
Same. No reason to use the site once they got rid of the quick and easy to find session times on right side of the screen that was there as soon as you loaded the page.
Now you have to scroll half way down the page and wait for the race list to animate and transition to the session times. If you don't know it does that, you'll just scroll past it looking for the session times.
It's a fucking woeful design.
Adam Sanders
Thanks have a nice one too binlan
Levi Torres
who the fuck tucks up and why
Lincoln Lewis
nothing borderline about what you are, man. sorry to say it.
>and lesser tyre wear No way that's true. Hamilton's tyres always die out much earlier compared to RBR and Ferrari but his strong will and encouragement from Bono keeps him going for at least 10 more laps than the rest.
Nathaniel Ross
Ricciardus est admonitio, ut invicta
Luke Foster
How will the shill pole reply to this I wonder
Chase Howard
I think I've been on it about twice in my life.
Dominic Robinson
it's whenisf1on.com or nothing for me
Jacob Long
corona virus infection to me so I don't have to endure another MWL semen slurp season
Looks like a beaver that got hit on it's head by a hammer
Robert White
we did it reddit!
Julian Fisher
the regular non electric 4-series will have the same one.. what the hell are they doing at BMW?
Josiah Howard
So they have officially gave up on styling their cars right? If that was an ice car the entire radiator would fit in the sniffer.
Lucas Sanders
reminiscent of a pig's snout
William Stewart
literally the best looking female human that nature can produce.
Alexander Taylor
>spend all morning doing meme exercises >spend the rest of the day drinking >don't know if DOMS and hangover or if genuinely sick
Bentley Kelly
>literally the best looking female human that nature can produce. only if you are talking about her 10/10 body without the face, of course
Blake Foster
Idk, I don't think it's that big of a deal honestly. It was epic watching Merc struggle to keep up at Monza. Couldn't even catch up to Leclerc WITH DRS.
Joshua Wood
>square jaw >no hips >rectangular torso >minimal breasts >best looking female human that nature can produce Come on man she's a 9 but there's plenty that could be better about her. I don't know if she's just thin as a rail or what but she's not exactly shapely.
Gabriel Scott
>wants a thicc bitch >with massive tits Hello, Tyrone
Levi Gray
>wants a thicc bitch >with massive tits Based high-test man of culture.
>But with the new regulations coming in 2021, the big question is how much is that going to cost? shouldn't they by now be like 50% done with next year's car? such a car can't be designed in 6 months...
Gabriel Mitchell
The fate of Haas is in the hands of Romain Grosjean? God help us all
you seem quite knowledgeable about this reddit and its average users' posting habits and jokes, don't you lad
Nathan Peterson
>makes reddit jokes >accuses other people of being reddit
Colton Scott
I pointed out an interesting piece of information, which is not an accusation. Maybe you should stop being a NEET in Perth and continue your educational career so that your reading comprehension, communicational- and interpersonal skills could improve
Nathaniel Collins
>dodging the question
Luis Martinez
whats a reddit?
Aaron Sanchez
im gonna top ur mums fedora
im gonna make ur mum a reddit joke
im gonna give ur mum some reddit knowledge
im gonna accuse ur mum of being reddit
im gonna give ur mum some interpersonal skills
im gonna dodge ur mums question
Camden Stewart
Based, me mum would like to have a strapping young lad like you as a conversation partner
Brody Butler
>last ep of drive to survive That race still makes me butthurt. Punishing hamilton after the ceremony.
they tried this morning but each time a red flag came out.
Joshua Wilson
trips and /f1/ stops gimiposting until FP1
Carson Richardson
Bahrain will have to be cancelled. They just increased the travel restrictions to pretty much every country you are likely to do a flight connection from Australia to Bahrain.
No way can reorganise onto direct flights.
Brayden Reyes
Ferrari and AT are completely fucked aren't they? No one will let Italians fly anywhere very soon
The Qatar race was cancelled because Qatar have travel restrictions in place, anyone coming in from Italy has to do 14 days in quarantine so most teams couldn't get all their personnel into the country for the race.
Nathaniel Taylor
Longneck VB takes care of Corona
Jacob Richardson
Reminder that beaner hopes and dreams are funded by >Fucking Leafs. Reminder that Lawrence Stroll is giving Perez the opportunity to fully expose his son. Reminder that Lance Stroll is completely exposable and already rather exposed.
Pretty impossible, to be honest. Car development, managing production, etc etc. It’s going to be an even tougher season for the Scuderia.
Jayden Wilson
Testing for Sophia's team so she can be Sophia's replacement when it clashes with F3.
Oliver Allen
So Williams No Paddy Lowe, which I feel is a good thing But no CTO at all, is this a bad thing? Can Williams resurgence start now or will it be another crappy year of shit? They're not going to get another year out of Russel if the car doesn't improve
Daniel Cruz
>Because of company restriction policies adopted by @ScuderiaFerrari and Pirelli following the worldwide Coronavirus outbreak, the scheduled 18-inch 2021 wet tyre test at Fiorano on March 5 has to be postponed. The test will be rescheduled at Fiorano at the earliest opportunity.
>back in my day if you wanted to put 6 wheels on your car you just put 6 wheels on your car >now it's all so politically correct
Jose Fisher
save for the 1000RR
James Scott
the car, you fucking idiot
Henry Campbell
but Bernie sold us to Liberty
Asher Butler
If you're going to use it daily, go for the car. If you want something to use on weekend trips go for the 650R.
Robert Barnes
Hammy would win a WDC before summer break in those circumstances today
Austin Gray
oh hey somebody saw my /o/ thread the RR is my favorite bike but 200hp will be useless on the normal road such bikes need the track
I have everything in walking distance though
I walk to work so I don't really need neither but the bike would be more of a hobby. I struggle to choose the car because I live in a big populated region. even finding a parking lot near my home would be a struggle
Jose Bennett
Just get a Suzuki Swift or the new Golf
Juan Brown
Maranello needs to declare sovereignty from Italy and become some principality. Surely some people at Ferrari have read The Prince and could figure it out.
Jace Lopez
If you have everything in walking distance, go for the bike. And start saving money to buy another for the missus.
Going on a trip with your so, each in one bike is an amazing experience. Even better if you don't really have a destination and it's just following the road.
those idiot journalists are claiming out of thin air that RB found something to blow on the car that might be a great advantage. their only source for this is that they feel that the engine sometimes sounds a bit like in the time of blown diffusers.
Never liked the front end of any McLaren road car ever, even dating back to the F1. It just doesn't work
Carter Davis
the p1 looks cooler but the senna is the best supersport by the stats
Leo Cooper
Having seen the 720s in real life, I think it looks great. Its radical styling might not lend well to age but at the moment it's every bit as dramatic as a supercar should be.
Colton Fisher
They're too squinchy, all of them. They look asian. And not one of the good asias like Japan or Korea.
Brandon Rogers
>8 years older than him based Stroll taking advantage of his youth to get a mommy gf still in her twenties.
Matthew Ward
Nine (9) days till FP1 bros
John Flores
starter slag/10
Ayden Martin
goblando is a virgin, isn't he
Justin Carter
Do they call it that because it looks like someone drove it into a wall?
Samuel Stewart
Canada is the most patrician f1 country. None of that plastic corporate advertising from car companies or pointless attempts to create a "trve championship of only the best drivers" in a sport where money is everything. Just wealthy guys bringing their vehicles to the track for gentlemanly weekend competition.
100% Ditto Albon, Gasly, Kvyat, Russel, probably Latifi but I literally know nothing about him The Racing Point lads have tasted pusy, so have Haas and probably Renault, obviously Rari and Mercedes have Alfa's a wildcard, Riakonnen's so old he must have had sex at one point but if it turned out he hadn't I wouldn't be that surprised, Giovanazzi has had sex but only with men
Oliver Brown
>Ditto Kvyat
Kelly you can't retroactively make Kvyat a virgin by refusing to acknowledge him as the father of your child.
Caleb Butler
Fuck off newfriend
Jonathan Diaz
you fuck off this is my thread now get the fuck out of my thread or I'll scream so loud the mods will hear
Nathaniel Bailey
please be a proxy and I dont share a country with you
That’s bad, they should be developing their 2021 car by now.
Cooper Price
Can someone explain to me why Haas buy in so many third party OEM parts? Haas is a CNC company, they make the machines other companies would use to make the parts they buy. Why can't they make their own parts.
Charles Gomez
Remember that porsche 1994 imola crash? I found this part on the senna book >"A brief episode, however, interrupted that briefing. A major accident, involving the cars that competed in the Porsche Cup, made with virtually everyone running to the living room window. Decidedly, things continued to go wrong in that strange end week."
She's a cyclist, that usually means a big fat wide but still firm and muscular bottom, he might just prioritise that over everything else
Jonathan Reyes
how can one animal be so based?
Luke Rogers
>gravel trap Bad news user.
Grayson Butler
Over a season I don't know but for an individual race not even close.
Gabriel Brown
It couldn't be that bad as the guy still raced afterwards, however I find it a bit spooky that his race records from 1994 are completely gone. OK, Imola probably was the only race he took part, but it should still count, right?
>Speaking exclusively to news agency Reuters, Brawn said: "If a team is prevented from entering a country, we can't have a race. Not a Formula 1 world championship race, anyway, because that would be unfair.
I expect announcement about postponing the 2020 season any moment now.
>Not a Formula 1 world championship race, anyway feels like 1955 *sip*
Justin Turner
Even on this video about the first 3 races (first one is imola) they just show these crashes, and none of them are serious, just the last one that caused a red flag, but no video of the crash
>Ban the Italians. >The Italians bans your first GP. I have the feeling we will only see half of the Season...
Eli Walker
Clover Team Racing Similar to pic related but a 4 leaf clover rather than a jaguar and whatever sponsors we can get Bonus hidden anime grill like the mclaren hidden speedy kiwi
>european season only >forgets about suzuka or interlagos
Austin Peterson
THE PRIDE OF LANCASHIRE
Ryan Johnson
Suzuka closed due to corona Interlagos is done because soon Brasileiros will ban Italos from flying there
Evan Cooper
>“If a team is prevented from entering a country we can’t have a race. Not a Formula One world championship race, anyway, because that would be unfair,” Brawn told Reuters at a sponsorship signing with betting partner 188BET.
I legitimately rate the GT season I was planning on travelling to 24 hours of Spa
Colton Hernandez
it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-isola-soddisfatto-per-zandvoort-abbiamo-due-strade-aperte/4713023/ >Mario Isola about the tyres >For Zandvoort we have two choices, either go with normal spec at 26psi or Zandvoort spec at 24psi >Not much difference in performance but bumping the normal spec up to 26 would cause troubles in balancing the car and the zandvoort spec has longer warm up time >We are gonna decide in the next weeks which way to go using more datas from Zandvoort and the teams >Using Zandvoort spec outside Zandvoort is not in question if the load on tyres is too high, teams decided to use 2019 spec so that's what it will be used, we will simply raise the pressure
Parker Jackson
>Brawn said: "If a team is prevented from entering a country, we can't have a race. Not a Formula 1 world championship race, anyway, because that would be unfair.
You know that this means? Non-championship races that will finally give Liberty an opportunity to force their new gimmick ideas. >muh reverse grid race >muh sprint race
Owen Mitchell
>Remove Zandvoort, Hanoi, Paul Ricard, Marina Bay and Yas Marina >Re-add Sepang and Estoril >Adjust points system accordingly There I just fixed the boring parts of f1
Xavier Watson
>muh reverse grid race >muh sprint race these are great ideas tho
Blake Phillips
gorona :DDD
Blake Sanchez
I bet you think gold, silver, and bronze medals to decide the world championship is a great idea too.
Kevin Kelly
i doubt the missing teams would be fine with giving their competitors free testing sessions
Juan Myers
>Zandvoort, Hanoi What year are you posting from?
Also remove Barcelona and Sochi at least.
Alexander Sullivan
Not their competitors fault, or F1's fault, that they didn't show up to race.
yes, they'll be fighting only one RP, since El Penejo will bin it right after start, and Stroll will, as usual, gain +7 places at start from P15 and fight ferraris until he burns his tyres
Angel Watson
Just as in pic:
Jordan Wright
the Michelin cars could have just driven slowly through the banking
Jose Lopez
Ok, Bernie.
Austin Martin
>2020 season postponed to 2021 >both seasons are run simultaneously
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guys, it's been like this for weeks. I didn't do anything wrong myself. Restarting modem doesn't help.
I have various witty images, rare pepes, and ffffuuuu comics to add to complement by posts. But I cannot use them. If this continues to go on when the season starts... I don't know what to do.
Can we contact the new Moot or something, explain the situation?
anime_girl_holding_back_tears.jpg
Dominic Bennett
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;)
Adrian King
>40 car grid >Bossberg returns >Wins in the 2020 car
I had that 1-2 years ago. I still had to solve captcha for some reason. What am I paying for.
Kevin Phillips
Just wait, last time I got my mobile carrier range banned for cunny spamming it didn't take more than 2 months to be lifted
Kevin Reyes
This is what happens to my phone carrier nearly every month as well. Nearly every month I'm either range band from posting or just posting images on blue boards, only time I'm able to post is after I pay my bill and the data rolls over to the next month. So I was basically able to post yesterday at work, something I couldn't for a few weeks. And no buying a pass is the most faggotory thing you can do.
Carter Phillips
Maybe they're outsourcing part of the development process to keep their operational cost low
Austin Garcia
post hulk looking at gasly and sainz having fun at bikini bottom
>Your balls bouncing off her forehead as you pump it back and forth down her throat. >Her nose assaulted with your hot sweaty stench from a long day testing >Saliva plastering her face as she pants inbetween your poundings >Her eyes going cross eyed as you go all in and hold her head to your crotch >The lovely warm sensation around you as she starts to run out of air >Her hands starting to panic and scrabble as you blast down her throat >That long strand of saliva/cum going from her mouth to your cock after you pull out >Her cute little smile in her oxygen deprived state as the next person in the room lines up
REMINDER 2021 F1 Grid >Scuderia Ferrari Mission Winnow VET LEC GIO SCM >Monster Energy Petronas AMG HAM BOT OCO RUS >Honda VER GAS ALB VIP >McLaren AMG SAI NOR RIC ALO >Aston Martin AMG STR PER LAT HUL
Biz idea. F1 starts using ethanol, since it is actually greener than an EV in most cases.
Justin Torres
*facepalm*
You shouldn't get your scientific info from facebook comments, m8.
Hudson Jones
user's cat had surgery and likely wouldn't survive but he's still kicking At least, he is, right? user?
Evan Sanchez
Facebook comments? It's true tho. Do you have any idea about how much pollution producing and disposing of Lithium batteries creates? And this is without even considering the energy source. A lot of countries still have coal and gas as their main electricity source.
You're not accounting for efficiency or the actual environmental impacts involved. Lithium mining is mostly done in deserts and salt flats where there's almost no native flora or fauna to interfere with, and the batteries themselves can be recycled to some extent if handled properly. Meanwhile, the carbon emission per kilowatt-hour of usable energy (kinetic energy of the vehicle, not chemical/electrical energy stored in the battery/fuel) when applied to an electric car is much much less than that emitted by a fuel burning car, ethanol or petroleum. Further, solving the mass electrification problem is a lot simpler than solving what would ultimately be a huge food crop shortage if you were to convert enough corn and based onions and whatever else into fuel instead of food.
Tl;dr carbon emissions and environmental damage are different things. One is largely local while the other is an existential crisis on a global scale.
>had a dip in form late last night where nearly lost him >pushed through to improve this morning >last dangerous part of procedure went alright today >blood toxins were 3 times the fatal level & he still made it >vital organs seem to be doing well >with some more in depth tests he may be back tomorrow
I'm not saying that we should start using ethanol in every vehicle on the planet, just that F1 should start using it. It would be good pr for them, and they already said that they want to go carbon neutral in a few years.
Besides, crop shortage wouldn't be a thing, you can use basically anything to make ethanol. In Brazil we use sugarcanes, in the US corn, and iirc there's a country that uses beetroots.
Also, you don't just throw Lithium inside a car and it becomes an EV, what generates pollution is the processing of it, not the mining.
I could go on if you want to have this discussion. There's a lot of things to consider when comparing ethanol and EVs.
Dylan Kelly
>audi joins f1 >hamilton moves to audi >6 more years of hwl and awl
Colton White
>using food for vroom >using food grown on former rainforest-land oh yes, that's gonna be good PR.
Zachary Martin
Based and Cumminspilled >On "strict exercise regime" >Takes scooter for track walk Very cute though
You clearly have no idea about how big Brazil is. The northern region alone is bigger than western Europe.
What's grown in former rainforest-land is onions, which is used to feed cattle or Chinese people. Sugarcane plantations are thousands of kilometers away. And like I said, you can use pretty much anything to make ethanol.
Kevin Foster
ok, just found out that Yea Forums replaces onions with onions desu
>ywn purposely walk fast on the track walk so Carrie has to trot to keep up
Mum is the same height as Carrie and I do this to her when we go to the Globe. I'm a meanie.
Mason Hall
Yeah Ethanol in motorsport is already used in some cases. It's not a bad idea to expand it at all. I mean ultimately it's a pretty moot point to throw out blanket comparisons and write off solutions entirely when in reality there's a best solution for everything and it's likely to be different across most applications. Lithium is nasty, sure, but ultimately most research I've seen backs up the assertion that battery-powered cars are much cleaner across their lifespan than fuel-burning cars. Now is it a long-term solution? Absolutely not. Lithium will get more expensive eventually and we'll either get solid state batteries figured out or hydrogen cars will become more popular. Further it's impossible to solve transit issues in general by focusing on cars, electric, driverless, or whatever. You need more public transit to deal with the increasingly densely urbanized environments people are living in, and ultimately getting people onto buses and trains makes a hell of a lot bigger an improvement to carbon emissions than anything you can do with cars alone.
I agree. What we need to sort out is how to improve mass transit.
But I feel like transitioning to Ethanol would be better in the short term, even if slightly worse environment-wise. Ethanol-based engines are simply cheaper, and can use the current infrastructure used by gasoline.
In Brazil, you can get an Ethanol powered car for 35-40k BRL, new. Meanwhile, the cheapest EV is over 200k, and a Tesla is near 400k. I'm guessing that in other countries it must be similar.
Kevin Carter
Stateside a Tesla Model 3 costs about $35000 starting, a comparable Camry or Accord starts around $27000, so the different isn't nearly as stark as it is for you. The other thing is EVs don't really need an infrastructure for regular commuting. Home charging can keep an EV in the range where it can easily be daily driven with no range anxiety. For sure long haul trucks and buses that run all day probably can't be fully electrified yet without better infrastructure (although pantograph-equipped electric buses have existed for ages), but regular cars can be and it's a good short-medium term step to clean up cities' air quality, if for no other reason.
Didn't knew that the price difference was so low in the US, guess this makes the EVs better in this case.
But I have more arguments(so nice to have a good discussion sometimes).
EV technology is receiving huge investments from China, likewise countries that produce Lithium. This can be a problem for the power balance between the west and China.
On the other hand, you can make ethanol anywhere, using several kinds of plants, so it's not as source-dependent. Similar as to how oil was important in the 20th century, lithium will be in the 21st, ethanol could be a backup plan in case the lithium producers fall in the hands of China.
Another thing, maintenance. A ethanol powered engine is pretty much the same as a gasoline one, so you don't need to retrain millions of mechanics worldwide to fix EVs.
There's 2nd and 3rd order effects for every transition. It's just a question of how important it is to make that change at the surface level. And ultimately climate change is a big enough issue that we need to tackle it. I was watching a talk the other day about nuclear weapons and climate change, where the speaker was saying we need more nuclear energy not just because it's so effective at producing carbon-free energy, but also because we'll run out of nuclear weapons if we don't, and that plays directly into Russia's hands.
Re: maintenance it's a pretty moot point since electric motors are so simple and reliable, and every other part of an ev is mostly the same as an ice car.
Jack Edwards
imagine if they somehow found a browner driver and would focus on him instead of kekilton. Bet you the browner driver would still be marketed as the first black driver
Eggman is pulling 600bhp out of a valveless 3 cyl engine, meanwhile we're still waiting for a car with any implementation of a MGU-H. Road relevancy and pinnacle of engineering my ass.
b...b..but MINIMALISM We can't have too many colours ja....It wouldn't look good on the app store....That is what we were told.
Liam Nelson
Honestly it looks cool with the transparency on the car, but they should absolutely keep the black background for marketing.
Thomas Ramirez
*Camless
David Murphy
We don't need any further downsizing and electrification of Formula 1, no thank you.
Joseph Lewis
I was just using it as an example, my point is road relevancy is a meme, and yet you still see people using it to justify retarded choices. Worse, engine regulations effectively prevent any innovation such as that camless engine and teams are stuck with the current V6T, not even daring to drop the MGU-H because of sunk costs.
