Why are they not banned?
Why are they not banned?
Connor Hernandez
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Liam Clark
because the whole MLB cheats. if they go into deep you will see a lot of these fuckers doing the same. they are the only dumbasses who got caught
Dylan Garcia
It would be antisemitic to punish them.
Juan Sanders
just kill fan support in one of your biggest markets bro haha it'll be epic
Ian Adams
MLB is jewish sports entertainment just like every other league in north America.
Joseph Miller
>manager and general manager banned from baseball for 1 year for overseeing team cheating
>Pete Rose banned from baseball for life for being on his team to win
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Josiah Foster
There's a potential strike coming up when the current CBA expires. The last thing MLB wants is to pick a fight with the entire Player's Union by banning a whole roster. And I don't care how much non-Astros players have complained, not one of them would support the players actually getting banned, sets a horrible precedent that can be used on them later when their team inevitably does something shady. Like the Astros cheated in game, but there have been cases of teams breaking actual laws. St. Louis had one of their execs go to jail a few years ago because they were hacking into other teams' files and stealing info.
It's much safer for both the Player's Union and the owners to let one or two front office guys be the fall guys, rather than risk actually hurting the bottom line for the players or owners themselves. And also this
Houston is a huge city, you'd basically be killing baseball in a big market just out of spite.
Wyatt Sullivan
*Also IIRC both the Dodgers and Braves were involved in some shady human trafficking business, LA even had charts rating their agents/scouts in Latin America on a scale of "mostly a bystander" to "criminal". They managed to avoid federal charges but still.
Anthony Carter
They could've just asterisked/taken back the trophy instead. Now the sport is a joke.
Oliver Peterson
>They could've just asterisked/taken back the trophy instead.
Definitely. Vacating the title/taking down the banner would have satisfied a lot of people. And it's not like Houston fans wouldn't still have the memory of winning, hell they're still celebrating it as though it was legit even though we all know beyond a shadow of a doubt that they were cheating in 2017.
Zachary Gutierrez
There is zero evidence they cheated though. No one has admitted it, and all evidence is merely speculative. MLB won't do anything unless it is 100% proven.
John Lopez
>There is zero evidence they cheated though.
There is a mountain of evidence, plenty of youtube videos documenting the banging scheme as well as testimony from former and current Astros players, a full investigation done by the league, and interviews with their former manager and former owner who both admitted it was going on (although the owner made sure to emphasize that he knew nothing about it, of course).
>No one has admitted it
They literally apologized, what the fuck are you talking about?
>MLB won't do anything unless it is 100% proven
It was 100% proven, and MLB did do something...where have you been the last couple months? They were fined and had draft picks taken away. Luhnow and Hinch both got temporary bans (think it was 1 or 2 seasons).
Jose Martin
>former owner
*current owner
Leo Lopez
they admitted to video taping catcher signs, which literally every team does and tracks including base coaches and pitching coaches. It's a grey area and MLB wanted to get aheadd of it before it became a huge league problem.
MLB hasn't confirmed they used that information in real time to help batters. Which seems to be the crux of the animosity. Not until a player admits to it, its speculative.
Juan Williams
>MLB hasn't confirmed they used that information in real time to help batters.
You can hear the trash can and the whistles you shameless Asstros cuck.
Xavier Fisher
Nothing happened. The yankees have spent nearly a billion in salaries the last 4 seasons and so they are salty they keep losing to Astros and Red Sox. The faggots like jomboy wen't on a crusade to "expose" the Astros. The reality is the whole league looks at the signs which are streamed on tv in real time.
It's not cheating, nobody cheated. I guess if it makes the yankeefags feel better then sure.
James Parker
>MLB hasn't confirmed they used that information in real time to help batters
Yes, they have. Why are you lying? The report specifically mentions the trash can banging scheme. Here
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>Cora arranged for a video room technician to install a monitor displaying the center field camera feed immediately outside of the Astros’ dugout. (The center field camera was primarily used for player development purposes and was allowed under MLB rules at the time when used for that purpose.) Witnesses have provided largely consistent accounts of how the monitor was utilized. One or more players watched the live feed of the center field camera on the monitor, and after decoding the sign, a player would bang a nearby trash can with a bat to communicate the upcoming pitch type to the batter. (Witnesses explained that they initially experimented with communicating sign information by clapping, whistling, or yelling, but that they eventually determined that banging a trash can was the preferred method of communication.) Players occasionally also used a massage gun to bang the trash can. Generally, one or two bangs corresponded to certain off-speed pitches, while no bang corresponded to a fastball.
Direct from the commissioner's official statement
Xavier Campbell
The sport is a joke if you start vacating titles because any small infraction is going to cause people to scream and cry, and you can never undo the actual games played.
It's the reason why the NCAA is such a fucking joke. Unless you think Reggie Bush didn't actually win the Heisman.
The report contradicts itself, how is Cora the mastermind if the "black magic" was going on before he got there?
Ethan Sanchez
this doesn't prove the batters knew drum banging = off speed pitch
Levi Martinez
wrong
Sebastian Rivera
>The report contradicts itself, how is Cora the mastermind if the "black magic" was going on before he got there?
It wasn't. The system the Astros called "the dark arts" (not black magic, not that it really matters) was first proposed by an intern on September 22, 2016 in a powerpoint presentation to Astros GM Jeff Luhnow. The Astros did not make the postseason that year, meaning that their season ended about a week later. Alex Cora was hired by the Astros as a bench coach in November of 2016. The system was first proposed about 2 months before Cora arrived, but it wasn't actually put into practice until the 2017 season.
Alexander Gomez
retard
Matthew Hughes
Except we have testimony from the batters themselves that they knew about it. Guys like Maybin and Gonzalez have said so, and Correa's attempt at damage control/defending Altuve's 2017 MVP win boiled down to "he knew about it but he asked us not to do it when he was at bat".
Anthony Hughes
Yeah because the NCAA is held in such high regard when they vacate random seasons and titles. They would be a total joke and have far less respect if they never vacated Heisman trophies and national championships. And don't forget how seriously people take the Tour de France taking away Armstrong's wins. 8 straight years of no official winner really elevates the prestige of the race
Landon Miller
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PUNISHING CHEATERS WILL HURT THE BRAND WE CANT DO IT
Michael Baker
Daniel Allen
They did get punished
Jeremiah Watson
I'm not the one crying about MLB not pretending nobody won the World Series in 2017 lmao. Have fun seething about flags flying forever