>Shake Milton goes for 39 points in 40 minutes with 14/20 FG, 7/9 3Pt, 3 Reb, and 5 Ast >The best part is that he gets paid $1.4 million for 3 years. >Meanwhile Al Horford fouls out and gets paid $108mil/4years to come off the bench. WHAT A FUCKING JOKE LMAO >4 players on the Clippies scored at least 24 points
>Raptors lost (now third straight) to the Nuggets and we couldn't even watch it on national television.
>Big dog Porzingis ate today. Records 38pts, 13Reb, 4Ast, 5Blk in victory against Minnesota without Doncic
>Derrick Rose dead again. Blows a 21 point lead and was losing by as much as 14.
exactly. Hubie I give a pass to cause he's an institution and sometimes doesn't state something overly obvious. Miller and C Web are try hard wannabes trying to sound cerebral instead of just being themselves.
Adrian Garcia
Why is Doris obsessing over Dwight's shoulders. Unless......
Robert Harris
actually a nickname. his dady was "milkman" milton. he was "milkshake" milton. shake was just shorter.
Easton Roberts
>mixtape i bet you post highlights of players and never post them getting blocked and exposed, like those lebronsexuals that forget that lebron is 3-6
David Rogers
I'm sorry Ja, you are good, but Zion deserves ROTY. I don't give a shit if he only played half a season, but this nigga too stronk.
Tyler Edwards
How does Zion have 30 from only dunks?
I thought the NBA was the best league in the world and you needed to be highly skilled to dominate. Harden told me so....
people thought the grizzlies would be one of the worst teams in the league yet they're in the playoffs. Ja got this shit wrapped up
Colton Rivera
For sure
Caleb Hill
retarded nigger, they'll letting him charge all over the court and giving him every call WATCH THE GAME NIGGER >how does WATCH THE GAME
Austin Turner
lebron is 3-6 and has never NOT been carried
Aiden Martin
you cant play defense anymore
Nathaniel Rogers
everyone was saying Zion was a bust one month ago. what changed?
Thomas Nelson
I'd rather she work out her lower body, on my dick. If you catch my drift
Asher Barnes
He's got half his points from the free throw line this year. Most manufactured rookie ever
Jason Butler
miller is a cornball but at least has player insight. cwebb gets hyped and has a nice deep voice. based hubie is one of the goats and still does a decent job even though he's literally 127 years old, so back the *FUCK* off
what does dorris offer besides muh vagina quota
Isaiah Myers
refs
Christian Perez
Is Jrue really the best defender the Hornies have against Lebron? Maybe. Ingram is a stick and would get outmuscled. Zion is too coward to take the assignment. Is Melli even a real player or just part of my imagination? Hart? More like Hartless.
Grayson Morris
he wasn't playing a month ago
Aiden Garcia
>from only dunks he has like two dunks
Wyatt Davis
DID ANYONE ELSE SEE THAT SOCCER BITCH'S EYEBALLS WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT DEMONIC SHIT
William Johnson
Giannis has AIDS
Jacob Perez
Zion turned a bottom 3 team into a team that can steal the 8th seed. And he is doing it without playing one half of the season. If he does it, Ja is finished.
Brody Bailey
damn jrue got a white girl...
Jeremiah Edwards
>28th free throw of the game to 6 unbelievable
Robert Jenkins
another Pelicans free throw?
Eli Martin
lanzo is a triple double machine
Brody Robinson
time for JaVale to take over the game
Daniel Bennett
She cute
Carter Baker
>Lebron only 1 FT Is he /ourguy/?
Julian Perry
yes, the 29th free throw of the game they need to take 5 times as many free throws to stand a chance
Julian Morgan
How can my based celtics be so good with literally no bench deep?
Jaxson Powell
I think he'll be an all star in a couple more years
Landon Reyes
Why don't the Lakers not foul????
Kevin Taylor
Wat about Zo
Henry Cruz
>3-6 >is bald and JUST >carried by autism and old men yes
Thomas Garcia
Will Zion be the first player to get a quadruple double?
Nathan Ross
>hurr why don't you just not foul go loot your neighbors ape
Dominic Cox
only if the admiral teaches him how to
James Morgan
Happened before
Carson Reed
Jrue who skipped leg day. Pelicans really have no one to match up with the elite PFs of the league because Ingram is mr. skelly.
I wonder if Zion has ever swung on anyone. He looks like he wouldn't hurt a fly.
John Rodriguez
ingram is fucking garbage
Angel Fisher
the pels were already streaking before zion even got back. A huge reason why they sucked in the first place was because everybody got hurt early. They were a sleeper playoff team from the start. Nobody thought the grizzlies would do shit this season
Brody Smith
>31 to 6
Blake Miller
and kyle kuzma, who has 20 points
Evan Wood
Checked
Parker Harris
LeBron had to school Zion again. Even with the refball.
Not hard feelings, Zoomers
Andrew Bennett
Ingram is SHIT Trade this stick looking nigga for a decent wing
Brody Johnson
How can you be a point guard and shoot 57% from the free throw line
he knows nothing about basketball and should just stick to scraping gum off the sidewalk
Isaac Thomas
yes you are, now give my rocket the chip now, otherwise lebron might just go 3-7
Dylan Peterson
zoomers don't appreciate Lebron's greatness. they don't realize Jordan was a volume scorer for about the first 3rd of his career before he had playoff success. Lebron has been a championship contender most of his career.
David Stewart
Feels good that my Lakies got the win despite being down Caruso and Davis.
No, LeBron just went off. Refs are actually trying to help Pelicans. They're just a really young team that can't close out against one of the best teams in the league
Ryan Thomas
Clearly off Mcgee. Fuck this rigged league
Jackson Turner
Davis isn't playing you fucking retard
Lincoln Green
Rockets already beat the lakers
Andrew Martinez
Ingram's only role is to throw possessions away with horrible memechucks
Ethan Collins
Pelicans are pretty good desu
Jaxson Lewis
damn Bron, you good?
Christopher Allen
LeDumb
Isaac Gonzalez
What’s the point of being a perennial championship contender when you go 3-6? Jordan just wins
Kevin Smith
Given them false hope
Josiah Stewart
Well ggs Lakers, (((Silver))) and the refs saved you again
Andrew Jackson
>muh davis i never even brought him up, but admit that lebald will get carried by davis, like he was with kyrie
Hudson Green
doris burke is annoying af time for realtek voice cancellation
Michael Walker
lebron is getting old bros he can't even inbound properly without having a bledsoe moment :(
Jack Gutierrez
OH NO NO NO NO
Evan Lewis
>LeSenile
Zachary Taylor
lebrap
Sebastian Murphy
MJ came straight into the league on one of the worst teams in the NBA, and still to this day the worst run organization in the sports, and did nothing but carry them to heights they had no rights going to
He did more to elevate a shit franchise than LeBron ever wishes he could despite having the benefit of social media and team switching faggot all star buddies like Bosh and tranny son Wade.
Camden Nelson
Lebron going brainlet lmaoo
Aiden Anderson
is lebron rigging games? wtf was that. saw the score and looked like he realized pels needed another score
Lincoln Lewis
LeBralzheihmers
Luis Ramirez
I'm loving crunch time McGee, bros.
Aaron Lopez
>needing lebron to beat the rebuilding pelicans sad, give us the chip now
Robert Wilson
>these retards watching any stream other than bilas
Kayden Nelson
LEMARTSHART PUTTING THESE SHITTY FUCKING KIDS IN THE BIN
Owen Smith
>whaaat is he doing???
Jordan Mitchell
Javal is ugly af
Evan Rivera
admit the rockets can't guard either lebron or AD
Tyler Smith
So when LeBron does it, not a big deal but when Tristan Thompson does it hes "ebic dumb nigger"
Anthony Turner
get better streams, fags
Michael Walker
>the benefit of social media
what
Isaiah Ramirez
admit the rocket are sweeping the lelkers in 4
Thomas Rogers
What tf is Davis wearing Why do blacks do this
Isaac Powell
>Lebron loses his mind >Lakers secure the win anyway
Asher Perry
Is Lebron white now wtf
Angel Reed
Jordan won when he finally got there, along with Pippen who may have been the second best player in the league and a solid supporting cast every year-Horace Grant and Rodman were all star level some of those years also. Lebron would have won with those squads also.
Can someone red pill me on compression pants and shit?
Sebastian Edwards
yes that's what i said >lakers playing well
Carter Sullivan
shut up maori
Dominic Cooper
AD is gonna look like fucking wilt vs the rockshits in a 7 game series
Owen James
Tristan was doing dumb shit and got called for it during his involvement with Kardashians. Kuz was the same when he was dating that other chick too
Henry Walker
>Jordan just wins
Except all those seasons he didn't make the finals.
Samuel Baker
There is no time in history that it's been easier to connect and talk with people from all across the world and use connections to grow influence and a cult of personality like LeBron has and influence his peers into working with/for his benefit.
Elijah Gutierrez
Lebron lost right away with D Wade and Chris Bosh, who were second and third in PER in the league. He averaged 17ppg on sub 40% shooting from the field, so no he wouldn’t have won regardless of what team you put him on because he’s a complete bitch.
Levi Richardson
so he's gonna look like shit against a team that uses small ball and shoots nothing but 3's?
Evan Nelson
MEATWAD MAKE THE MONEY SEE MEATWAD GET THE HONEYS G DRIVIN IN MY CAR LIVIN LIKE A STAR ICE ON MY FINGERS AND MY TOES AND I'M A TAURUS
Alexander Parker
Be honest, would you a doris burke?
David Parker
Why is Doris a fucking announcer?
Absolute trash.
Jayden Reed
Hey man, his wife has nice bimbo milkers even though he had to raise her daughter and son. He still won
All those seasons against loaded Celtics, Pistons, and Lakers teams, with a clearly inferior team that was 2-3 years removed from being bottom 5 in the NBA?
Ian Peterson
And when Lebron missed the playoffs while Jordan was making it with a 36 year old George Gervin as his second best player? Lmao you zoomers don’t even watch basketball
Josiah Jones
Doris is a great announcer and should have Mark Jackson and Stan Van Gundy's jobs
Thomas Wilson
which one is the wife?
Ethan Clark
Like a stadpadding choker?
Dominic James
Lebron got a 34/12/12 trip dub on 66% shooting and /nba/ has a brain aneurysm lmao shook as fuck
Andrew Phillips
No jap asians sicken me. They all have those moon faces like Mongolians
Carter Wilson
33-10 free throws
Robert Harris
you would have to be 40 years old to have watched the majority of jordans career
Easton Perry
Quads of truth
Anthony Roberts
These guys are all buddy-buddy now. Makes me sick.
>the pelicans yawn >meanwhile the champs get exposed by the nuggs pretty based if i do say so myself
Ian Young
In 2 games against the Lakers, Zion has 32 free throws to the Lakers 31.
Ethan Morgan
>Lebron beat a non playoff team Low bar
Jordan Wilson
Why is Zion doing GD handshakes? What a fraud zoomer. Probably never hit a lick in his life?
Angel Bailey
, nice digits but I disagree. Lebron, Bosh, and Wade took a while to get the chemistry rolling. Jordan, Pippen, Grant, and Paxton were a strong core playing together for a while going into their run.
Aaron Howard
Another day, another W. Good thing we're signing the last of our goon squad tomorrow to go against Lou Williams and Montrez "fake tough guy" Harrell. Philly cheese swag is coming to LA.
Hope you were watching KaLoad, we're coming for that series W.
This nigga really trying to recruit him, isn't he?
Blake Davis
Ingram has like half of those, that fucking fraud.
Robert Wood
Josh Hart can't win with these cats :)
Sebastian Foster
Except D Wade balled his ass off in that series while Lebron choked away every 4th quarter. You can’t blame Lebron getting locked up by 38 year old Jason Kidd on chemistry issues, he was just shook as fuck
Oliver Clark
damn son you didn't have to step on his neck like that
>LeBron Raymone James took a step-back 3 instead of taking Zion to the basket?! And then stuck his tongue out like MJ?! That was a PATHETIC and DISRESPECTFUL move by your King and you know it Shannon!
Ok not amazing but I don't think it's fair to call it shit considering his supporting cast in both those series. Literally what else could he have done?
Jacob Collins
Not shot like shit? You’re just moving the goalpost now, that’s three times he played like garbage in the Finals but you want to suck his dick and act like he only choked against the Mavericks.
The mavericks is the only real choke though, his numbers were down in those other series because he had to carry way more and it was a near impossible task to win them. Not exactly rocket science m8.
>NOOOOOOOO NOT THE NIGGERINO Again you’re moving the goalpost, you’re the one who said he played like a monster in all those finals series when he was chucking below 40% FG in multiple series. Now you’re arguing something else entirely because you know there’s no way you can frame that as good basketball.
Kevin Rogers
the toronto clippers? um based?
Jack Baker
LeBron doing everything he can to the the Kongs into the Playoffs Thank You King James
You're the one getting all emotional and posting your funny maymays. Taking 2 games off that warriors team by himself isn't a bad series.
Landon Stewart
So we can agree that Iggy extension was shit, right?
Blake Cook
I'm kawhi fan and rapties fan :)
Ian Ross
but the clippers are in LA and kawhi doesn't play with the raptors
Jason Hall
>the other team was too good for me to shoot above 40% FG That by definition is not a monstrous or dominant series, you’re emotional because you’re changing the subject solely because the player you have a weird attachment to lost and you lost.
Angel Young
not to mention the level of competition. Bron faced both Spurs and Warriors dynasties. Jordan played peak season of Portland, Utah, Seattle-all good teams but they fought years to just get to the finals with strong cores and then fell off.
Juan Williams
wait the bucks have already clinched the chip? how? oh wait of course they did
Michael Walker
Those teams only became dynasties because Lebron kept losing.
Alexander Roberts
I'm rapties fan/and I'm kawhi fan :S
Andrew Gutierrez
I admit his numbers weren't as good as I remember but you seem to be the one with the weird attachment, it's far from a choke job and you're putting way too much emphasis on fg%.
Jacob Lewis
>n-no you Embarrassing user, at least call me a faggot or something. What metric should we look at to judge his performance in those series? If a player is significantly less efficient in a series than normal (inefficient), and they lose said series, why is it irrelevant?
Christopher Sanchez
>Stan Van Gundy He's with tnt on Tuesday's and he's better than Jeff Can Gundy because he doesn't complain every 5 minutes like Jeff. Mark Jackson sucks though and so does Doris. All Doris does is go "wow isn't that amazing? wow just wow" and Mark Jackson is just boring unless he's with Jeff then he's just annoying.
Wyatt Miller
>we all did before they started programming us to admire the unholy ok zoomer
The only thing clear about your beliefs is that you're too young to have watched Jordan play and that you hate Lebron. You're likely going to turn in to the guy who argues in the future with younger people who rave about the next great player saying that he couldn't compete with Lebron.
David Walker
jvg is based and is the only one that regularly calls out some of the bullshit in this league
Isn’t it crazy how there’s no footage at all of Doris Burke playing college basketball? Plenty of high school footage but not one clip of her playing in college
Cooper Ross
Because I don't think those defenses were as concerned with Ilgauskas or Dellevadova dropping 40 on them.
Justin Walker
Post your ID, obscure your personal information, and show me you watched Jordan play
Nathaniel Baker
So Lebron was not good enough to score efficiently against elite defenses?
Levi Robinson
Is that what this is about? You feel threatened by Lebron? I don't think he's better than Jordan if that's what you're getting upset about.
Charles Cox
HIS TEAM WAS ONLY THE FAVORITE TO WIN 2 TIMES, YOU IDIOT. JORDAN'S BULLS WERE ALWAYS FAVORED FROM THE TIME HE GOT PIPPEN & CO, THE 80S LEGENDS GOT OLD AND RETIRED ETC
Levi Walker
like clockwork. I'm loathe to give advice but I'll just say that it's better to appreciate things as they're happening. you don't want to just watch and miss the show completely.
Gavin Reyes
Night losers
Julian Richardson
And Kerr
Nolan Williams
I think he is and I've watched both of their careers in their entirety.
Parker Bell
The Heat were not favored to beat the Mavericks?
Aiden Adams
that's 1
Justin Perez
>it's another Jordan vs Lebron argument episode
How about you guys talk about actually good players like Kawhi and Siakam :)
Dylan Ortiz
yes. and Rodman. and Scottie. and Horace. and BJ. and Scott Williams. it's the same for all of them.
I watched the end of Dr. J and Moses Malone. I saw still great years of Kareem, the primes of Magic, Larry, McHale, Dominique, Isiah, Barkley. The primes of guys most have forgotten-Alex English, James Worthy, Adrian Brantley. I remember the beginning and end of Jordan. The beginning and end of Kobe. The beginning and still going of LeBron. I'm trying to stay in the moment.
Chase Reyes
lmao how did no one push back on this absolutely terrible wrong argument, This is true about LeBron and the Cavs, and Bulls had a great team after Jordan. Better than any non-LeBron Cavs team by a lot.
Nolan Walker
Then why did that faggot LOSER only have 2 rings?
Stats? Sure, he’s got them for days, but is he a winner. No.
So if he isnt a winner, hes a LOSER. Fuck LOSERS. NO ONE CARES FOR A REASON.
Just like LeBitch - LOSER. Relegated to the LOSER bin of history.
Brayden Smith
for me, it's robert horry
John Nelson
I get where you're coming from but I think it can be a fun argument to get into remembering this stuff as long as you don't act like an ass about as, unfortunately, many people do
also apparently you've also forgotten Adrian Dantley lol. poor Adrian Dantley
John King
>posting here as an old man
Honestly kind of based
Adrian Hall
Why do people make this argument? It’s clear as day when people talk about rings they’re talking about the main guy on a team (FMVP), as opposed to role players.
Luke Adams
hubie is dogshot and sounds like a dementia addled retard these days
Dominic Ortiz
thanks for having my back. it's still fun sometimes. don't usually signal though.
Samuel Adams
In your opinion, who is winning it all this year?
Anthony Howard
I think the Clippers have the best chance at beating the Bucks assuming no big injuries shake up the landscape.
Jaxson Parker
I only trust boomers when it comes to ball. Who is the GOAT
Noah Myers
A sensible analysis
Carter James
>I think the Clippers have the best chance at beating the Bucks
They would but unfortunately they won't get passed us for a chance to play them in a 7 game series.
Respect if you're truly a boomer and posting on here.
Ryan Bennett
Thank you based Lonzo for saving the Lakers yet again
Jacob Gray
Wrong, nuggies have the best match up against the bucks.
Jordan Anderson
Lebron imo they're both deep, versatile and can play defense hope you're right. I'm a Laker fan. 48 year old Gen X. None of us knows for certain. Just hope it's exciting and no bad injuries to anyone.
>raptors lost >sixers lost my celties still can't separate from them because brodie owns them :)
Camden Miller
no dude. he's as close to the entire package as I've ever seen. elite passing, elite game management, scoring. almost everything.
Andrew Cox
who is your goat, btw?
Noah Robinson
Didn’t you see Bird play?
Zachary Gray
david robinson
Michael Scott
Larry was awesome. great instincts. best shooter. but Magic may have been better. there was hardly anything separating the 2 of them. It was never clear who was better even at the time even though a slight majority seemed to favor Magic. It's just become more muddied as time has passed.
Dominic Anderson
he was weird. always seemed like he should have been better than he was. his biggest moments seemed to come against Ewing. Hakeem was clearly better and then when Shaq and Duncan came along, Robinson seemed like just another dude.
Juan Bailey
Best shooter? Okay, Larry Bird is more of a complete package than Lebron though.
Justin Parker
kendrick
Tyler Bailey
Spicy P
Noah Wood
shooting is the only thing I'd give Larry a clear and decisive advantage over Lebron on. Strength and quickness would be a big advantage to Lebron. like I said before, Magic and Bird were back and forth in the same era. Neither of them had Lebron's complete package. Michael came along as they were both past their peak and clearly became the best player and he wasn't nearly as complete as Lebron.
Hunter Nelson
Russell Westbrook is unironically the GOAT
Wyatt Wright
How about rebounding, free throw conversion, playmaking, and defense?
Noah Parker
Lowry displayed terrible body language and lost us the game. Disappointed in him, he was being petulant even when the calls were going our way. He shouldn't have been in the game and we would have won if we gave McCaw the ball at point. He had energy and was playing well Every now and then you see really great stuff from him, but he always looks deferential, to his deficit. I know Nurse sees something in him because he has such a long leash. I would have yanked Kyle from the game and given McCaw command
Benjamin Jackson
i know none of yall niggas gonna believe me but my cousin literally plays in the nba and he says a lot of players are low key gay. who do you think is currently the biggest pillow biter in the nba??
I feel about him the way I felt about Iverson-guys I want to see hugging the trophy that won't ever do it.
Kayden Jones
>muh complete package >takes roids >3-6 >2011 >is a bitch Some GOAT
Joshua Martin
Also, anyone who watched the game tonight - tell me Anunoby isn't just as good of a defender as Kawhi when he's at his best. He won't always be this spectacular offensively, but he is a hyper-focused defender.
John Diaz
AD and KAT
Kevin Thomas
KAT looks gay, Chris Bosh was clearly a fag, KD seems gay
Jacob Watson
free throw shooting is a part of shooting when I said that. Larry was very smart with good instincts who could play good positional defense and he was big and strong enough to get boards but Lebron can do both of those things better. playmaking is different because larry didn't run the offense the way Lebron does. He's one of the great but Lebron is my greatest.
Robert Ward
based
Jace Wilson
somewhere between 10 and 15 percent are probably straight up gay.
Noah Sanders
>The full strength Clippers are 8-0
Julian Nelson
Larry Bird averaged more rebounds through his career than Lebron (10rpg) while sharing a front court with McHale and Parish, and averaged a single less assist than him throughout his career while not monopolizing the offense/having nearly as much usage as Lebron. Also never choked in a Finals series, Lebron may very well be your greatest but the complete package argument is kind of dumb when you’ve seen more complete players in your lifetime and just don’t acknowledge them because of muh athleticism/dunks.
Isaiah Ramirez
your so-called cousin. also, i am pretty sure Duncan was a fag. don't (you) me. you know i am right.
Hudson Perez
no more dumb than citing statistics from a different era to legitimize your opinions about a player you didn't see playing and failing against his own peers so you could see he wasn't infallible. Paul Bunyan didn't exist in real life. Everything from the past wasn't necessarily better. Sometimes you're lucky enough to witness the greatest without even realizing it.
Christopher Scott
>he just signed a $100 Million Dollar with Puma this kid has already made it and he's barely 18
what does one even do with 100 fucking million?? i can live a luxurious neet life for the rest of my life on 500k. it baffles me that there are nba players (alonzo mourning, iverson) that literally go broke after earning so much. fucking retards.
Samuel Jenkins
>what does one even do with 100 fucking million?? invest in chainlink
Elijah Hughes
go to B-Dubs on Tuesday for the buy one get one free on wings wing stop is higher quality but bdubs is stupid cheap on Tuesday and you get more variety (especially if you go with a couple guys)
Lucas King
>Da joos rigging the game for Lebron!!!! >Da joos rigging the game for Zion!!!! meanwhile the media is sucking off a whiteboi and Lebron got like 3FTA. the mental gymnastics you """ironic""" nazis go through is unbelievable
Nolan Brown
Holy fuck. Steve Ballmer is insane.
No. It wasnt enough to give the city of Inglewood 100 million dollars. He is apparently buying the forum from Dolan in order to build the Clippers adjacent new arena.
So now Ballmer will even own the place where the Lakers made much of their history, including winning 5 of their Championships. All that’s going to be left of the old franchise is LeBron’s corpse in Staples Center and an indentation on a hill in Calabasas. Of course theres the history, that will never fade, but theres something to be said about many tangible aspects of this history getting irreversibly erased over the last year and potentially in the near future.
Only question now is does Ballmer demolish the Forum as a final symbolic defeat of the Lakers franchise? It seems almost inevitable at this point.
Nathaniel Gray
When did I argue Bird was infallible? He was just a more all around player than Lebron, Paul Bunyan may not exist but Larry Bird does. What are you even arguing at this point? Bird only corralled that many rebounds because of the pace of his era? Lmao they play at a faster pace today meaning he’d be an even better rebounder, not to mention the spacing he never got to utilize in the modern game. Not to mention he’d never have anyone place their hands on him during a playoff series if he played today. Larry Bird may not be the greatest in history, but Lebron certainly isn’t.
Jackson Torres
subtle
Hudson Ramirez
so by your rationale, Bird would even have better statistics in this era and be an even greater legend. I don't believe that would be the case but you're entitled to your opinion. you've said nothing to persuade me to have a different one either.
Zachary Smith
That’s kind of how pace works user, similar to how Wilt and the Big O wouldn’t have such tremendous stats if they were to play today. I don’t think anyone cares about your opinion beyond yourself, it’s ridiculous you’re anointing Lebron best all around just because he jumps higher than Bird when Bird was clearly the most skilled player in history.
Lucas Gutierrez
This is insane alright... insanely based! He's tired of playing second fiddle at staples!
Christian Garcia
Lebron is a better, harder-to-stop scorer at much higher usage. That's the biggest difference. Prime Lebron was a better defender than Bird when he was locked in. And although Bird is probably a better passer in theory, Lebron actually generated assists at a higher clip. Lebron's peak and career have also been much longer
Bird was a better rebounder and a better shooter but he's just not close to Bron as an all-around guy.
Ryan Phillips
That dude is just trolling you bro he only thinks bird is the GOAT because hes white
Alexander Brooks
Bird would be way better in the present era. He wasn't better than Lebron but his game was basically built for the way the league works now
Owen Baker
Wilt and Oscar wouldn't have better stats, Larry would. No one cares about my opinion and you're going out of your way to let me know just how little everyone cares. I think I got it now.
Leo Brooks
>inb4 luka comparisons
bird was tough.
Thomas Williams
we all know this, we're just waiting to see him cop to it. he's prolly someone from Stormfront that doesn't even watch ball anyway.
Carter Phillips
I agree with what you're saying. I was just responding to Larry user.
Carter Garcia
Oscar would have better stats because he could probably have learned to shoot the 3. Wilt would have had... well, probably worse stats, but he'd still be really good because who the fuck is going to stop someone with his size and physical gifts?
Ryder Lee
Wilt would have been, at the very least, solid in this era. Who knows how good though. They're all bigger, stronger, faster now.
Noah Long
Bird generated nearly as many assist as Lebron (6apg to 7apg) with much less usage, the only thing Lebron has over Bird is scoring in an era where teams regularly score 130ppg in regulation.
Goddamn that's soft af...judgeing by his profile pic he's full of söy. Ariza needed to take the L and give Trae a kind of friendly nod like "you got me" then keep it moving. Kobe acknowledged Steph when he scored on him then returned with points on the board.
Jordan Mitchell
it really sucked that his back gave out. he had to really fight just to get in to the game during the Dream Team Olympics, which, iirc, was kind of like the last hurrah.
he would have been a hell of a wingman for Lebron.
Jack Kelly
Imagine pretending you love your gook children
Michael Miller
I think Wilt would be comparable to someone like Shaq, maybe not quite as good but the same type of player. I think he'd probably be the best center in the league.
I think most players who are really, really good would be able to compete in the NBA. At least anyone who was good after the 50s. Ball is ball.
Individual defensive rating is just not a good way to judge defensive ability, first of all. the fact that Bird's drtg is better than Pippen's is good evidence of this. Can't seriously say that Bird was a better defender than Pippen
I agree that Bird is a better passer than Lebron (and said so in the other post) but it's more of an indication of how much of an offensive creation load Lebron is able to carry. He generates more assists while also taking way more shots and scoring more points more efficiently. That makes him a much better all-around player than Bird, unless of course you arbitrarily decide that Lebron's points don't count because you're an idiot.
Joseph Cox
The Prophet (pbuh) said: >“Verily, your blood, property and honor are sacred to one another (as Muslims).
May Allah, the Exalted, cast this usurper and all his fellow sinners into hell for their crimes.
Zachary Johnson
>he would have been a hell of a wingman for Lebron.
This is true.
Brody Rogers
Probably doesn't care just send them to school so he could stay at home and bang mom all day everyday. Hope he had a prenup tho...her first husband was also a millionaire. At least he didn't end up with a horse face wife like that youtube guy whose mother in law hates him
Adrian Edwards
He couldn’t hold Bird’s jock, would be crying to management to get him traded for some of his “homeboys” Bird was the second best defender on multiple championship teams, you can’t argue Pippen was better just because of reputation and athleticism. Bird was an elite defender for the same reason Joe Ingles and Pau Gasol have been so good for so long, used his length to defend rather than counting on jumping high and trying to block every shot.
Lebron scores a lot more, but he also plays in a league where a 5’11 sophmore is averaging 30ppg.
Imagine if Bird played with no handchecking and freedom of movement hiding behind screens to generate easy offense, he’d score more than Lebron because he can consistently shoot.
Eli Brown
OK kareem
Blake Bailey
I don't spend as much time thinking about how good players from the past would be in today's game since there's so many variables but Wilt is definitely an interesting anomaly. I kind of think of a David Robinson or Amare Stoudamire without thinking too much about it. The main issue with me is that things have changed so much People barely even watched basketball when he was playing. Now everyone that plays is a beast and it's a talent pool that draws from the entire planet. Take football as an example. Super Bowl 1 was played in 1967. The average weight of the linemen on the Packers would be comparable now to a Division 3 college team. Too much has changed to make meaningful comparisons.
Joseph Sullivan
Pippen was the best defender on multiple championship teams. He also generated more defensive events (steals and blocks) per possession than Bird did, especially in his prime, and looked like a better defender to watch him. And you can't seriously be saying that Pippen tried to block every shot. Just really idiotic stuff.
And even if Bird played today, he wouldn't score more than Lebron because he doesn't have the power game that Lebron does that Bron can leverage into easy points regardless of what a defense can throw at him. Again, that's not an insult to Bird, it's just the reality. And at the point where you're seriously arguing Bird was a better defender than Pippen it's clear you're not being seious.
Tyler Cooper
Bird would be a solid bench guy in the D league in todays NBA.
Aiden Perry
I don't think it shouldn't be even argued, who's the most skilled player or most complete (skillwise and physically). It's quite clearly LeBron. So comparing skill to skill or stats is quite pointless.
That being said, there's been plenty of players who have been more skilled than for example Larry Bird, but not practically none of them could take the pressure the way Bird did. LeBron is definitely not a choker, more like an average on that end. Bord, MJ, Kobe,... were extreme cases when it comes to mental thoughness. Whether that means more than skills alone is another topic.
Isaac Mitchell
he's being resilient.
Henry Kelly
Need Candace Parker in my life bros :)
Brody Wright
Bird was in awe of Kobe Bryant if that tells you something about how much the game had changed since he stopped playing.
Jayden Russell
Steph Curry averages more steals than Lebron, therefore he is the better defender, brainlet. Bird would be a better Nikola Jokic in today’s NBA.
Xavier Morgan
Bird would make a hell of a wingman for Jokic.
Jacob Cook
>Pippen was the best defender on multiple championship teams. Meme, he never won the DPOY. Rodman and Jordan had three collectively.
Mason Gomez
>I don't spend as much time thinking about how good players from the past would be in today's game since there's so many variables but Wilt is definitely an interesting anomaly.
Yeah it's just really fascinating to me to imagine how different guys would play and how a coach would try to use different skillsets. I think it's an interesting way to understand basketball history idk
I think Wilt was such a physical freak, whether back then or now, that he would still be really effective. And the NBA doesn't work quite the same way as football with the weight stuff, I don't know what the equivalent of that is. You can still have short guys getting buckets. There are definitely some skillsets that don't work nowadays, like a lot of power forwards would have problems. But mostly you can find a way to use most good basketball players. I believe that.
A SF/PF who's an elite passer, shooter, and rebounder and decent on defense would be a starter on any team in the league.
Oliver Garcia
They’d win the title every year in a nonJewish league
Chase Torres
DPOY is not a good award that should be cited as meaningful evidence of things
Angel Long
Yeah, guys like Kawhi, Hakeem and Rodman aren’t that good on defense.
Logan Jones
Pippen was the most consistent defender of the 3. Michael might have been just as good if he didn't load manage as much. Rodman was fucking weird. Used to have these crazy stat lines like 3 points, 20 rebounds.-5 points, 18 rebounds. He'd be the most impactful player on the court in some games during the Bulls prime years and he'd be a complete non factor in some games also. maybe the most enigmatic player I ever saw.
Nicholas Parker
are you stupid? I said DPOY is not a meaningful award, not that people who win DPOY are bad defenders.
Jayden Jackson
Disregard the DPOY award bro, Ben Wallace and Dwight just got it accidentally.
Ben Wallace and Dwight are both elite defensive players. That would be true regardless of how many times they won DPOY and there are better ways to prove it than citing how many times they won DPOY, because there are usually multiple good defensive players in a year, and the award is based on voting from journalists who don't know shit.
DPOY winners are usually good defensive players. But winning more DPOY awards doesn't mean that Rodman and Jordan were better defenders than Pippen. Dikembe Mutombo is not the best defensive player of all time because he won the most DPOY awards.
Logan Wright
>and the award is based on voting from journalists who don't know shit. As opposed to some autist on Yea Forums who knows his shit?
Owen Ward
Well, it depends on the autist in question
In this case, it's me and I'm right
Samuel Ward
Nah the journalist know more than you do, which is why they get paid to make the selection. Rodman cried when he got his first DPOY, you think he’d have any reaction if you told him that your eye test/box score assessment makes him the 23rd best defender in all history?
Joshua Diaz
how much Rodman wants to be considered the best defender matters way less to me than whether or not he actually is the best defender
>Shake Milton went to my highschool >people make the same jokes about his name as they did in highschool
Jack Taylor
>i can live a luxurious neet life for the rest of my like on 500k maybe if you only have 8 years to live
Christopher Foster
if you lived in the middle of nowhere and literally never left the house you could do it although “luxurious” is the operative word
Ryder Young
Here's a Rodman story you probably haven't heard which was just one of the reasons he was such an interesting character.
When Magic Johnson announced he was HIV positive, it felt like he had just died. Back when he contracted it, the scientific community didn't know enough about it so it was like a death sentence. Of course, he retired immediately.
A couple years later, more was known about the disease including the fact it couldn't be transmitted through sweat. Magic wanted to play so bad he came out of retirement a little while before the ASG. The players publicly said they were supportive but you could tell they were still uncomfortable.
The game was kind of like a Magic Johnson farewell event. He was playing well and everyone was glad he was there but it still felt weird. The highlight of it all, and the real moment when the ice was broken, was when Magic had the ball and Rodman played "tight" defense on him-pushing up on him hard and grinding when they were both sweating. Until that moment, no one was really trying to contact Magic that much. I always liked Rodman but that was the moment that I really admired the kind of person he showed himself to be.
Looks like a typical chimp swinging on his tree branches
Benjamin Morales
Hey fellas is that movie Uncut Gems just Boston Celtics: The movie? :)
Lincoln Thomas
Now that Kobe died the NBA will rig the playoffs even harder for the Lelkers. They were already pushing them to secure Lebalds legacy. Now that Kobe died prepare for the worst refball you've ever seen during playoffs.
Carter Watson
the lakers won't win the finals you flyover retard
Ethan Baker
he's not dunking or shooting in that picture you stupid nip
Samuel Brown
You missed the fucking point, moron. You claimed MJ only let out a small bit of his tongue when dunking/shooting but Lebron's was somehow disrespectful when they both stuck their tongues way out. If what LBJ did was disrespectful then they're both disrespectful...clown.
What the fuck happened to this team? Is this the price they had to pay for ruling over the league for 5 years? Durant leaving and Klay being injured was deserving for GS but this almost makes me feel bad for them.
Andrew Cruz
Send him to my Pooston Cockshits for a low 2nd and Austin Rivers
Aaron Barnes
Durant leaving was all of Drayboon's fault
Steph and Klay were already injury prone after their 2nd title
They're just not durable enough for consecutive Finals appearances, Lebum is just a freak and juices a ton to cope
Thomas Gomez
WE GON GET DION
Josiah Kelly
>get drunk AF after yesterday >drunk dial my family >talk shit to everyone >tell my girl I loved her more than anything >throw up all over >fall asleep >wake up feeling like shit >my gf is cleaning everything up and cooking for me >realize Kobr is still gone
They were always frauds. People loved to hype up the west when the Warriors were on """""top"""""" but all of the teams were legit shit. Like lmao niggas actually thought the CP3/Blake Clippers or the Cuckets were contenders GTFOHere. The only real competition (Spurs) they had got f&%Ked because Kawhi is a F^&**ing snake f^uck and Zaza took him out that one year.
David Bennett
>Tatum and Smart out due to illness Coronavirus?
Hunter Rodriguez
God I hope so.
Nicholas Clark
It's the Nest
Load management, watch them magically showing up against the Jazz and OKC
Nathan Williams
So I guess you weren’t complaining when they went out and got KD?
Easton Parker
Why is everyone on here new to watching basketball? Tony Parker and Rajon Rondo got assigned to the G league when they got injured in their primes, Demarcus Cousins was just there last year. I swear the globalization of the NBA was a mistake
Alexander Ortiz
Steph Curry is officially a G leaguer HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Christian Morales
>ywn be the best shooter, highest paid nba player in the league playing comfy G league games it hurts bros...
Aaron Miller
he can touch my g spot anytime
David Young
>@wojespn Reporting with @ZachLowe_NBA >In memo to teams on coronavirus, NBA suggests players choose fist-bumps over high-fives and avoid taking items such as pens, balls and jerseys to autograph. Teams also concerned about corona impact on pre-draft process.
lmao
Christian Rivera
>like 20 people or less have the virus in the US >"DUDE CANCEL THE NBA LMAO" gay
Julian Jones
far, far left
Brayden Harris
LeBron is 35 years old.
playing back to backs...
still leading the league in assists while giving us 30 point triple doubles...
team is no. 1 in the West...
at this point if you still don’t respect his game, idk if we can ever be friends. Lol
Christopher Hernandez
I do respect his game but you need to respect that he's already won his last ring.
being a good player doesn't make you a good teacher
look at Jordan
Wyatt Brooks
kudos to the Lakers for hanging in there, with a superstar for a player, a bag of dirty diapers for an owner, and a stick leaning against a chalkboard for a GM
