/nfl/ Revolutionizing how the game is played edition

peyton manning

steve young

aaron brooks

Tebow

drew brees

brett favre

Scott Mitchell has a ring.

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aaron rodgers

phil sims

steve "the heir" mcnair

Blake bortles

troy aikman

antwaan randle el

Case Keenum

rich "the cannon" gannon

john elway

Lameme will be out of the league in 5 years

jim kelly

Mark Sanchez

Vinny Testaverde

phil rivers

>Tom Brady is going to play for another team
>Antonio Brown is going to play in 2020
Post more brainlet takes.

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Tremendous cope. It's cooming and you can't stop it.

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drew bledsoe

>ESPN offered Tony Romo $17 million a year to replace Booger
>CBS matched it
Megakek. You'll never get rid of Booger. He'll be gassing the refs forever.

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Nick Foles

0-2 in the playoffs
0-2 vs Mahomes

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If Bitch Trushitsky has a 19-10 with a divisional title what does that say about his coach Matt Nagy?

>loss to Rivers in the playoffs
>lost to Tannehill in the playoffs
>both games were at home

was early 10s NFC East the most entertaining division ever, in terms of quarterback play?

forgot pic lol

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E L I T E

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Jay Cutler

Anthony Calvillo

Brad Johnson.

Mike Tomczack

Jay Fiedler
Kerry Collins

Dak Prescott

>Tony Romo to earn approximately $17 million per year in new deal with CBS, per reports

Basado

he had the easiest schedule in the league in 2018

that's not a dab it's a whip retard

drawing dimes

Kirk Cousins

Beat the Rams who made the Super Bowl and the Packers to clinch the division.

speaking of which
Ryan Tannehill

oh fuck here's a fun one
Daunte Culpepper

Will the Bengals fall for the Burrow meme or will they come to their senses and pick Tua?

cope

Thomas Edward Patrick Brady

>sanu needs ankle surgery
>edleman just had multiple surgeries. >thuney gone in fa
>scarneccia retired
>gost still dead
>gronk not returning
>kike owner still butthurt about AB
>rest of the offense still shit

RUN TOM RUN

Based and coompilled

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Don't forget

>old expensive overrated defense
>3rd lowest cap space available

Who are this draft's workout warriors i should ignore?

Brady is old and on top of that, a system babby. if someone snatches him up in FA they won't be happy.

Brady leaves for the raiders, goes 7-9, misses the playoffs, benched for Mike Glennon,Bill Belichick wins the super bowl with Patriots legend Derek Carr, BeliGOAT cements himself as the greatest of all time, Brady forever exposed as a system baby, also people start to question if Jon Gruden is really that good of a coach (hes not) or just a big personality.

Pats are a bottom 5 team without Brady, don't kid yourself

>Tom "system" brady

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>bill 'losing record without hof QB' belishit

ehhh brady is in a win win situation, hes far too old for a bad season on diff team to take away from his success but if he happens to do really well or win a sb on a new team then that further cements his legacy.

They can't stop it

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that bitch nigga haskins is finna get cucked AGAIN lmao

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Justin Herbert had a very good workout that certainly bumped up his draft stock, could be a fluke.

why are niggers always posting the dumbest shit on social media? keep it to yourself.

Also why on earth would he be going to the giants?

Toom and Coom will sign with the Cowbs and drop a diss track on robert kraft on their way to a superbowl championship

>Also why on earth would he be going to the giants?
That post was last year before the draft when people were speculating him going to the Giants at 6

gnats the right decision desu
>Don't let me go back to the crib
im from the DMV and this is where Dwayne played football as a teen, he went to a rival high school of mine. Its funny how little he wanted to come back here.

ill add; Chase Young is also from the DMV, they played against each other in highschool. He grew up a redskins fan and actually seems like he wants to be here.

Tho honestly who would you trust your future with, Haskins or Tua?

Tua all day. He has the mental makeup that you seek in a franchise qb and the talent is evident. Haskins is an immature prick and looks like a Rosen tier bust already.

Tua all day, but that would involve passing on chase young.

honestly this would be the most kino "heel" storyarc

Chase Young will be a bust

based on what? the reason everyone rates him as the top prospect in the draft is because hes the least likely to bust.

Michael Vick

jake plummer

When is John Elway gonna get Brady to sign on the dotted line?

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Brady to San Fran. Bookmark it.

Drew "Horsecock" Lock is the future, not crusty old Brody

Let Brady in there to get his goodbye ring, a la Manning, and Drew learn from him for a year. Perfect scenario. Don't think Elways dick is not busting at the seams just thinking about it.

Yes

Imagine scoring 3 points in a super bowl

Tim Tebow just in case no one mentioned it

>popularity contest
>not even 4k passing yards
The MVP became a joke when it was given to Scam, now it is just another meme award

>COOMBACK

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Jared Goff

Any news on the new CBA? Did all players vote on it?

>NOOOOOO, YOU ARENT A REAL QB ULESS YOU THROW FOR 5000 GARBAGE TIME YARDS WITH A 4 WIN SEASON

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Fellas, I think I've finally sobered up from the SB parade & I just discovered they added an extra day to February this year to continue celebrating the Chiefs winning month.

he's a speedrushbabby

>zero playoff wins
>got embarrassed by the Tits at home one year after getting embarrassed by Rivers at home
Enjoy your regular season consolation prize because Lameme isn't winning anything in the post season

Why are people still implying the Titans were just some bottom feeding team that accidently made it into the playoffs? They beat the brakes off the Pats AND Ravens and nearly beat the eventual champs. Lamar didnt have his best game and losing the first round as the number 1 seed sucks but losing to the Titans isnt as shameful as his haters are letting on.

Haskins is finna get Rosen'd and its gonna be sweet

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Because the Tits were fairly mediocre outside of Henry

tannehill was good tho

Tua is gonna look awesome in the burgundy and gold.

>Multiple sources from the combine say Panthers CB James Bradberry, one of the top corners on the market, is aiming for $15 or more million per year on a new deal. Washington among teams expected to be involved. Byron Jones, Bradberry and others plan to reset corner market.

The Panthers got blown out in 3 of their final 4 games and they are unironically going to let their best defensive back (And the guy responsible for covering Jones, Thomas, and Evans) fucking walk away.

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Wait, hold on niggas, none of you actually think Tua is an NFL tier QB do you?

>implying Cam didn't deserve it
>ignoring all the times Peyton was given the award after shitting himself in the playoffs like the choke artist that he is

Both Palmer and Brady deserved it more desu, but ofc they had to give it to the Dabbing Rex Grossman

Who are "we" drafting next year bro? Baker Mayfield?

Kek. Won a league MVP. No matter what happens, he earned the biggest accomplishment in the league.

Yeah, the Patriots sure were awful when Brady missed a season...

>Derek Carr
>Playing in the AFC
>Getting past and beating chiefs in any way shape or form
Hahaha hahahaahahahahahashhHhhahshaahaaaa

1st rounds you mean?
2021 we draft Tua
2022 we draft Rosen because Tua is shit even for the XFL
2023 we draft Lamar as WR for the double forward pass centric offense

Who? Bill "11-5 with Matt Cassel" Beligoat?

Why would we waste picks on guys like Tua and Lamar? They are all pro NFL qbs

not sure if he will bust but he has no moveset and has poor gap discipline. he's legit outside of that but those are two vital attributes to be an nfl de

>0 playoff wins
>0 head to head wins against patrick mahomes

Tua is god awfully bad, he'll be cut quick and Lamar is doomed to fail in the NFL

Post Quarterbacks better than Lamar Jackson. I'll start with picture related.

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That is the only QB better than Lamar Jackson currently in the NFL

>Yeah, the Patriots sure were awful when Brady missed a season...
The 08 Patriots were extremely inferior to the 07 Patriots.

baste chad bay

TJ Yates

The Chase Young hype is hilarious. Acting like hes a for sure HOF and drafting him will guarantee you 5 rings atleast. Another guy that gets called a generational talent despite the Bosa brothers, Garrett, and Mack all being called the same. I'm not saying hes not good but the reality is most of these guys are common and arent the game changers they're made out to be and certainly not someone the Redskins or Lions should take over Tua an actual game changer.

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> certainly not someone the Redskins or Lions should take over Tua an actual game changer.

The Lions don’t need an (already broken and thus suspect) rookie QB, what they need is a defense and a new coach.

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Brady is insane if he goes back to jew england with this trash ass roster

Gimmie an example of a 10 year loser with 0 playoff victories and only two seasons with 10 wins or more suddenly becoming a total winner that goes on a legendary playoff tear? Regardless he might have 5 years left to play TOPS and the team is clearly in denial thats its in rebuild mode, makes total sense to move on now and draft Herbert or Tua.

>The 08 Patriots were extremely inferior to the 07 Patriots.
And the 09 Patriots with Brady had fewer wins than the 08 Patriots with Cassel.

1/2

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> makes total sense to move on now and draft Herbert or Tua.

“There’s no I in Team”.

Bringing in a rookie QB and saddling him with a mediocre team and shitty coaching (as Stafford’s been stuck with for 11 years) isn’t going to somehow magically get the Lions to the Super Bowl.

Martha Ford is doing everything she can to make the Lions contenders but she’s only had control of the team since 2014 when her husband died, after which she shitcanned the entire administration and start over and while the “Patriot’s Way” plan hasn’t worked out as planned, that’s 90% on Fatty Matty Patricia who will likely be gone after this next (once again shitty) season and hopefully replaced by current OC Darell Bevell.

Because the Lions offense in 2019 was putting up enough points to win games (even with back-up Driskel and 3rd string rookie Blough at QB) but their horrible defense and the utter lack of any kinda pass rush, continually let them down so if by some means the Lions can get Chase Young, they’d be morons to pass him by.

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2/2

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>oline getting healthy
>receivers getting healthy
>Harry having another year in the system
>elite defense
>free agency
>draft
They're fucked if Brady doesn't resign but otherwise they'll be fine.

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>>elite defense
Too bad it can't defend the run, the LBs can't drop into coverage. Dmac has to resign, pretty sure he's a FA. Same with Jmac. Chung sucks at covering TEs. Their only redeeming virtue is the CBs, although Gilmore played like shit in the last Miami game.
>>Receivers getting healthy
Sanu and Edelman are both going to be a year older. They need to get younger and vertical. Too bad Bill blew a 2nd for Sanu so there probably won't be anyone worth picking up in the third for WRs for any decent impact.

draft wirfs please. they need a fucking O-liner

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I'll name only starters:
Brady
Fitzpatrick
Darnold
Allen
Berger
Mayfield
Dalton
Mahomes
Rivers
Carr
Flacco (who also happened to win playoff games with the Ratbirds)
Brissett
Watson
Minshew
Tannehill
Rodgers
Stafford
Trubisky
Cousins
Jones
Dak
Wentz
Keenum
Brees
Matty Ice
Kyle Allen
Jameis
Kyler
Russell
Le $134M plus tip man
Garop

Based Maddox dabbing on lameme with both NFL and XFL playoff wins

Love and herbert are the two best qb prospects of this year's draft. Fact

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What would you trade from your team for patrick mahomes?

im not giving up adams and other goodies for mahomes

anyone have a stream of the combine

Tua is much better than both

if he wasnt an injured mess maybe

Brett Hundley

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>Flacco (who also happened to win playoff games with the Ratbirds)
Literally was getting his shit kicked in with the same team that Lamar dragged to the playoffs.

If there was an All-NFL Team who are you putting on yours? Best player of each offensive and defensive position across the whole league.

It's always so sad when you see him with his daughter at IHOP Saturday mornings.

>dont have to trade shit

He's ours, forever.

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Love is the next Mahomes

>acl
Not so fast, kid.

imagine hating on this humble chad and the most authentic sport star today. lamar will be fine and get his revenge against the queefs both in the reg season and playoffs next year.

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Lamar Jackson is 0-2 against the Chiefs and 0-2 in the playoffs you know. Playing the chiefs in the playoffs sounds like a real recipe for disaster!

who improves next season and makes the playoffs?

who regresses and misses?

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d-does he have down syndrome?

I'm hoping Jake Fromm gets drafted to my Titans. See him develop for a year or two and then just destroy all the meme qbs. He's the smartest in terms of football iq and has drawn comparisons to Andrew Luck. People are sleeping on the Unafrommer

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youtube.com/watch?v=sRGkKisJW4M
Someone just donated 110 bucks to EDP's livestream

Hes gonna be QB 7 this draft class after Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Eason, Love, and Anthony Gordon

What a retarded take my man. Lamar is the only 2nd unamious MVP in history

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
PPPFFFFFFHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA
*wheezes*
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

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>wins his first 10 straight playoff games

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This is a reddit tier post

I understand Burrow. Tua is a huge meme but somebody will take the bait. Hebert will turn out an okay backup but only because he's most likely being picked by a team that won't try to immediately put so much pressure on him. Eason failed his interviews hard. He's going to end up a mediocre back up most likely. All that arm strength doesn't mean jack if the locker room doesn't like you(There's rumors that he's terrible as a leader). I could still see him drafted before Fromm. Love is another mobile meme qb that some idiot will fall in love with and pick way too early. I don't see Anthony Gordon before Fromm but I haven't seen enough from him to say he won't.

this but unironically

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How many playoff wins does he have?

Gordon's way more accurate and consistent than Fromm. Has a quick as shit release too

funny how in the two playoff appearances he has he has fumbled and lost the ball twice and thrown 3 interceptions for a total 5 turnovers in just 2 games

REEEE NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST EXPOSE THE MVP LIKE THAT YOU CUNT

He looks good. I could see why people would choose him over Fromm. But Leaf and Falk looked good in college as well...

KWAB

D-DELET THIS

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Is Jordan Ta'amu the next Kurt Warner?

no wonder that cuck loves him

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Black men having sex with white women

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based old bay

lmao we're going 13-3 at the absolute worst next year stay mad fags

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>runs

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Listen to him speak. He aspires to one day rise to the level of down's syndrome.

>that schedule

Just give Lamar another MVP right fucking now

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>>that schedule
>Just give Lanig another playoff loss right now

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bruh, is it because he's half a tard?

@99092210
If Lamars oline doesnt let him down right there he would have orchestrated the greatest comeback ever doing so as a rookie.

>99092269
>@
hello newfag

>Ravens go 16-0
>get the only First round bye
>shutout by joe burrow and the bengals in the divisional
>16-1

>3 of 9 for 25 yards
>int

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>oldgay triggered

Based.
>be old bay
>be a literal racist Nazi
>forced to defend a black qb
KWAB

bills or jets? or do we wait for the offseason moves each team makes before saying who has a shot?

That’s an argument against literally every quarterback that looks good in college

The bills. At least their meme QB can carry their shitty offense sometimes

There's been far fewer league MVPs than QBs with playoff wins. It's almost like one is more difficult to achieve than the other.

If it’s so easy why has Lamar failed both attempts

Lamar won MVP because everyone else had a shit season, not because he was amazing.

Statistical anomaly. It's not complicated to grasp. It's easier to have one good or bad game than it is to have 15-16 great games to win MVP.

Yet Lamar haters spent almost the whole season coping by saying Russ should have won it

Or maybe he just isn’t clutch and can’t handle big games

Whatever comforts you. The odds of Lamar winning a playoff game are much, much higher than any other player winning league MVP not named Patrick Mahomes. He'll get a playoff win, but 99.95% of NFL players will never win league MVP.

Why do the burrs cause such unrestrained seeth even when they suck?

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>"The age of the White QB is ov-

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*fumbles*

cope

Fun fact, did you know the first aids death was a minor?

Robert Rayford, died at 15. Had symptoms at aged 13.

Isaiah Simmons is going to become a Giant and win DROTY while Chase Young will turn out to be Vernon Gholston 2.0 on the Redskins and every loser fuck who said the Giants should have thrown the game in Week 16 because "muh Draft" is going to look like the fucking retard they are.

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Which OL will the Rams take in the second round?

One is given, one is earned. Guy likes handouts.

Russ was the most valuable player, though. The Seahawks wouldn’t have made it to playoffs without him.

Jay Cutler

Josh Allen is the future of white QBs because hes just a black man in a white mans body

cope

Agreed. League MVP over an entire season is earned, playoff wins are often given or taken away by officiating.

They are also taken away by playing like shit, throwing multiple interceptions, and fumbling the ball multiple times

Oldbay, put your trip on.

Neither. Nigger qbs aren't competent.

Lamb is gonna be much better than Jeudy

That's nice, so you're saying he earned the MVP by playing great for 15 games?

Allen is pretty good, but Jones is that next cerebral passer. His biggest advocates during the Draft compared him to Peyton and it's obvious that the Giants liked him so much because of how much they reminded him of Eli

>Wanting a QB like Eli
Lmao

James "Jimmy" Garoppolo

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Eli dragged the 2011 Giants kicking and screaming to a Super Bowl win when they had the worst run-game in the league, an aging and declining O-Line, and an aging and declining defense outside of JPP. If the Giants hadn't built horrible rosters throughout the 2010s Eli could have won at least one more Super Bowl before calling it quits.

Washington State has a history of failures at QB at the pro level.

Ummm, you can say the same about Lamar actually more so...

>Be average and .500 but has enough luck stat to win 2 owls against all odds.
You know some teams might want that

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>The Ravens wouldn't have made it to the playoffs without Lamar

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The ravens would have made the playoffs with Nathan Peterman, their division consisted of Memefield, Andy Dalton, and Duck Hodges

>The Ravens wouldn't have made it to the playoffs without Lamar
They were 4-5 in 2018 before Lamar took over, then went 6-1 in the remaining games. He makes the team look better than it is, the O-line, run game, and entire defense in particular.

>People think Leonard Williams is a bad player

How come no one gets that most of a defensive lineman's impact comes from the effect they have on the other quarterback rather than their numbers?

Star Lotulelei in Buffalo gets criticized because he's a former first-round pick and "has no sacks" but he's an elite space-eater and has never played on a bad defense in his entire career. How come people don't realize that Williams is similar and get hung up on "muh sacks"?

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berds

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julian edelman

God damnit bros we'd have 2 rings right now if we had taken Aaron Donald first in 2014

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williams sucked on the jets

who'd you draft

mitchie mania

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I am not a nazi

>washington state has a history of failurea at QB at the pro level

Say that to my face bitch

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>oline
lol you don't actually watch any of the games or understand football in the slightest if you believe this shit. ronnie stanley was the legit mvp of the league not jackson

Isn't he going right back to the bench?

No... Foles is getting cut

Remember how great the O-line was when Flacco was the QB? I do, they were awful. The offensive scheme they run helps the offensive line a lot. Any hesitation by the defender gives the O-lineman a huge advantage.

THAT'S MY QUARTERBACK

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Not that user but the Ravens had the best oline in the league last year by a mile

Wasn't that the game where Blair Walsh missed like 3 field goals?

>Any hesitation by the defender gives the O-lineman a huge advantage.
This is true, but it also helps having a QB who isn't a sitting duck who holds on to the ball too long like Flacco. The Ravens line is definitely talented probably the best in the NFL or at least close to it, but that being said they don't make the playoffs with RG3 or Flacco as QB.

Yes, the game was 10-2 going into the 4th quarter then 19 points were scored. Came down to the final seconds of the game where Wilson was sacked so they had to throw a hailmary that ended up being incomplete.

Also a third of the Skins players were injured going into that game so it made it all the funnier when they had to put in wide receivers as cornerbacks and DBs.

the field goals were all 40+, those are gimmes for elite kickers but not for guys who are backups/play for multiple teams

>This is true, but it also helps having a QB who isn't a sitting duck who holds on to the ball too long like Flacco.
They couldn't even run block, though. They were averaging something like 3 yards a carry in 2018 over the first 9 games with Flacco. It jumped to 5 yards as soon as Jackson became the starter. Some of the linemen are obviously good, but I'm not convinced the line as a whole would even be top ten if they ran a traditional offense.

Uh, no. Lamar made that OL look great, not the other way around.

That isn't how it works you fucking retard. Jackson didn't make Staley play like an all pro all season

>but I'm not convinced the line as a whole would even be top ten if they ran a traditional offense.

This. The Ravens have a solid LT and RT, a great RG but are meh at LG and C. Great blocking TEs who may as well be offensive linemen, but the OL is not a top 5 unit with another QB in there.

>stanley was never even pro bowl level
>jackson takes over and he's all pro

Really makes ya think

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>Yea Forums memes

Go back zoomie

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>99097762
>the cuck browses tumblr
go back you BBC worshiping cuckold

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you people are so autistic

The only thing he has in common with Luck is his hairline.

some more than others
>he's waisted this much time cucking himself here

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So you're implying that Jackson single handedly made his oline perform better? Why wasn't that the case last year? Here's the reality; Jackson had the most stacked roster in the league and had teammates step up to perform; he was playing with 10 other pro bowlers but couldn't win in the playoffs when it mattered

>and an aging and declining defense outside of JPP.
You're describing that defense way too mildly. That fucking defense was god awful outside of JPP. Perry Fewell is still the worst defensive coordinator I've ever seen.

Opinion I have: Tom Coughlin should still be head coach of the New York Football Giants.

>waisted

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>an aging and declining defense outside of JPP.
that "aging and decling defense" still had 48 sacks in the regualr season and 9 in the playoffs, they were anything but a bad defense when they literally averaged 3 sacks a game
on both of Eli's runs he had very good capable pass defending defenses

Nick Foles is better than Gardener Minshew

>waisted
pretty expected of a retard who is obsessed with a user on a Malaysian cat cooking forum.

>99097905
>>waisted

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Based Old Chad

Both are mediocre but Memeshew has the higher ceiling

please seek mental help

>higher ceiling
Only one of them won a superbowl

>newfag
"you're here forever" is not something to be proud of, ask any self-loathing ancientfags and they will tell you just that

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>Foles wins an owl with the most stacked roster in the league at the time
>still isn't good enough to be a full time starter

>Memeshew has the higher ceiling
Foles' ceiling is the only reason I picked him over memeshew

Foles' ceiling is top 3 QB in the national football league, im not memeing.

Nick Foles is elite 4-5 games every season

>Foles ceiling is a top 3 QB
He isn't even good enough to be a top 10 QB. Dont ignore the fact that he was playing behind the best oline in the league and had the number one defense in 2017 whereas he got injured for the Jags and then basically got be ched when he got healthy again.

That wasn't the case from 2012-2016 nor in 2018 or last year.

7 years is nothing retard
archive.4plebs.org/sp/search/username/Old Bay/page/1266/
>old cuck is not even his first tripnigger name
archive.4plebs.org/sp/thread/38506372/#38506776
tell that to the cuckold

Do you know what a ceiling is

Do you because one fluke year doesn't automatically make his ceiling rise you dumbass. Only Niggles fans think he's good enough to be a top 3 QB and that's mainly because Wince is garbage

He had that 7 TD game in 2013 lol

2019 was a fucked year for foles, get injured on your first touchdown pass and then have the dumbasses that coach the Jacksonville Jaguars put you back into the starting job right after you're out of a cast.
When hes at his best he is elite, he was far from his best in last year, let him bounce back and start him.

I think Minshew is promising, but see what you can do with foles.

You said four to five games every year. One good game doesn't really change that fact.

He's an eternal backup. He's basically a less injury prone Sam Bradford

>one fluke year
Nigga he threw 27 TDS and 2 ints in 11 starts one year
> that's mainly because Wince is garbage
this just proves you have no clue what you're talking about.

[GOAT]
Brady

(POWER GAP)

[Elite]
Mahomes
Wilson
Brees

[Sub-elite]
Cousins
Ryan (Natty Ice)
Tannehil
Rodgers

( small power gap )

[Great/Good]
Wentz
Carr
Luck
Dalton
Smith
Stafford

[Solid/Average]
Garoppolo
Manning
Bradford
Flacco
Prescott
Cutler
Palmer

[Manager/Serviceable]
Bridgewater
Mariota
Taylor
Winston
Goff
Kessler
Bortles

[Niggers]
Jackson
Newton
Watson

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The Jets haven't had a good roster since 2016. Which, incidentally, was the year Williams made the Pro Bowl.

Obsessed tbqh

>Trubisky not even on the list

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>retarded Niggles fan thinks he knows what he's talking about when he started watching football 3 years ago
Reminder that Foles was a failed project for the Rams so they traded him to the Eagles where he won them an owl with a stacked roster and then won them a playoff game the next year with a slightly less stacked roster and then didn't accomplish anything when he was given the opportunity to start again. And Wentz is garbage and doesn't deserve anywhere near Wilson money but he's going to fuck over the Eagle's cap so who cares. Although I will say Foles is better than Wemtz and the Eagles are retards for letting him walk

>Palmer
>Bradford
>Cutler
>Smith
you're lost, 2010 is that way ->

>Reminder that Foles was a failed project for the Rams so they traded him to the Eagles where he won them an owl with a stacked roster and then won them a playoff game the next year with a slightly less stacked roster and then didn't accomplish anything when he was given the opportunity to start again.
nothing, and I mean not a single thing of what you just said, is true.

based
>99098128
cuck

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williams wasnt good in 2019, and he was gonna be gone soon. Its not my fault he didnt become the player he was expected to be

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Oh right I forgot he was drafted by the Niggles and not the Lambs, and that the trade was the other way around, my bad. Still doesn't change the fact that he's been an eternal backup for his entire career which was my original point faggot

Foles is literally in the Jimmy G "le 29 year old prospect man" tier of QB. May as well sign Brandon Weedan

>Still doesn't change the fact that he's been an eternal backup for his entire career which was my original point faggot
it just proves you're an insufferable faggot that doesn't really know a lot about what you're talking about, have a good day.

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>uninformed opinion
>weeb
>niggles fan

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Matt Ryan is very well passing 100,000 yards if he stays on track with his passing career baring injury, he's already put up 50,000+ yards in his first 12 seasons in the NFL, another 10+ years of playing (which is possible considering the blueprint Brady has laid out for older QB's) and he has it

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What good defensive linemen have the Jets had the past three seasons? When Williams got traded to the Giants, they improved against the run to the point that they were actually one of the league's better run defenses in the second half of the year.

I have Williams pegged for a career resurgence next year. Especially if the Giants get actual pass rushers (Let's face it - Williams is going to get paid to be a Giant. They'll get absolutely ripped to pieces if they let him walk)

Nick foles won a super bowl MVP Mr.Bay.

Jimmy G throws a ball over 10 yards maybe twice a game on a good day.

Excellent rebuttal. How about you state a reason why I'm wrong then. Feel free to include his playoff runs with the Eagles and that one game where he threw 7 tds and had a perfect passer rating in that list

you really think he will git gud?

Malcolm Smith won a Super Bowl MVP too.

If the Giants improve their front seven and defensive backfield there's no reason he can't. There were plenty of times last year where he was a step away from the QB only for the ball to come out because someone had blown a coverage or the Giants had left a running back or tight end wide TF open ten yards downfield. Both common problems - Holy fucking shit James Bettcher was a fucking garbage D Coordinator, how the fuck did he fool everyone into thinking he was good in Arizona when his defenses got BTFO the second they lost elite players like Mathieu and Campbell?

>Browns go on a massive spending spree through trades/FA last year
>Suddenly can't pay any of their homegrown players and are just going to let a Pro Bowl linebacker like Joe Schobert walk away for fucking nothing

Think Leaveland has buyer's remorse about trading for Odell yet or do they still buy into the "Odell was just being held back by _________" meme?

>uninformed opinion
the guy I was """"debating"""" thought the Rams drafted foles and he was a "failed project" so they traded him to the eagles where he was a back up and then lead them to a super bowl after the starter got injured.

Nick Foles was drafted by Andy Reid and the Eagles in 2011, he would be a back up for 2 years until Vick went down with an injury in 2013, Foles would put up an impressive 27-2 td/int pro bowl season and a division title. in 2014 foles would get injured and struggle in his second season, the infamous retard named Chip "Trade Lesean Mccoy cut Desean Jackson" Kelly would trade Foles to the shitty rams for Sam "ow my leg" Bradford. Foles struggled in St.Louis and got injured then was cut. Nick got depressed and almost quit football till Andy "QB whisper" Reid brought him to back up for smeth on chiefs, Foles did great in his few games with KC and the following season would follow Chiefs offensive Coordinator Doug Pederson back to where it all started, philly. You know what happens next.

The record shows that foles is a good QB especially when not being coached by retards, the rams were a bottom feeder team with Bradford and foles was brought in to fix by the infamous retard named Jeff "9-7" Fisher. Foles was to young and is not good enough to do that so it nearly ended his career.

the thing that annoys me most in football right now is that kirk cousins's "you like that" was an exclamation, not a question, but most people are too retarded to realize it and so the retards have re-invented history to their own retarded liking

t. sad vikings fan

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I also stated that I remembered it wrong you fucking retarded faggot because unlike you I can admit when I'm wrong.
>Foles is a good QB when not coached by retards
So in other words you're basically stating he needs a good system to operate in, meaning he's a game manager. You aren't too bright are you

read the post above, ive been watching Foles is whole career and am giving you my opinion on his potential as a starter QB.

you had no clue about Foles' history because you're an uninformed zoomer, your opinion is invalid on Nick Foles because you no nothing about Nick Foles.

I'm older than you and have been watching football since the late 90s. I dont bother watching every game nor do I bother to remember details about every game that I do watch but I have seen my fair share of Foles games over the years and nothing really stands out aside from one or two games. He's a game manager because you yourself implied he needs good coaching to be a competent player. You're dickriding him because there's a good chance you're a biased Eagles fan

>So in other words you're basically stating he needs a good system to operate in
thats not what im fucking saying, if you learned how to read past 2 sentences I promise you you'd be better off.

Read the fucking post Chip Kelly and Jeff Fisher nearly ended his career with the decisions they made. It has nothing to do with their "system". good coaches like Reid and Pederson did the exact opposite, thats the difference between a good and bad coach.

Cope. The biggest accomplishment is Super Bowl MVP.

Flacco won a Super Bowl.

Rodgers had better success with McCarthy wasting his prime. Pete Carroll is wasting Wilson's prime but he can drag a bad team to the playoffs almost every year. Luck had to suffer with Pagano, Romo had Garrett, Vick had Dan Reeves and so on an so forth. Elite QBs are able to play with mediocre or bad coaching since they're capable of making plays when things go wrong. Foles had a great playoff run, but outside of that he has been fairly mediocre for his entire career unless he was playing with a functioning coaching staff.

He had 27 TDs and 3 Ints that year

Bro you're based. Anyone who thinks Wentz is better or as good as Foles is delusional.

he honestly doesn't know what hes talking about,

Hes EXTREMELY assmad about foles for something.

He's not the Foles spamming poster but I can tell you that Foles is a quarterback that needs protection in the pocket, he's not gonna get that in Jacksonville.

>Mahomes MVP is a meme
FUCK OFF SPAIN YOU ARENT WLECOME HERE

>t. mutthomes bootlicker

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come @ me the next time a QB not named Mahomes hits 50TDs and 5k yards.

with the current track the NFL is on it'll happen in another 5 years, but it won't be him
>Brady 50 TDs - 2007
>Manning 55 TDs - 2013
>Mahomes 50 TDs - 2018

OBJ was being held back by Freddie Kithens

>1 more year of cuck cousins
Superbowl or bust, if the vikings extend him for more than 100+ guaranteed i’m going to be even more depressed

Cousins is a top 4 QB.

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cousins is good m8, see

Tell me this is photoshoped

I dont even think sub elite is necessary those listed tend to be one season wonders, and then go to shit the next for a while.

You also forget that not only Chip Kelly was a absolute shit HC and was officially exposed in SF, but also no QB was ever going to be good under Jeff Fisher for then St Rams. Also pretty sure that season before Foles got traded was the season he tore his arm in half

How's his win/loss ratio on teams over .500?

sup, niggas, EA servers have ddos'd by a group of hackers, Madden and Fifa are currently BTFO

Based 2k sports hacking EA into the ground to release NFL2k21

it was actually the Lizard Squad group from what Yea Forums is saying, they once took out sony's PlayStation Network and Microsoft's Xbox Live Network, apparently the servers are so shit, they got through using only "40% of their botnet" and all the servers are integrated

put me in the screencap

Lamar Jackson has 2 playoff losses, Carr has no playoff losses

>lost the ball twice and thrown 3 interceptions for a total 5 turnovers in just 2 games
more like revolutionizing how the game is lost
lmao

delicious thread

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I love how you faggots conveniently ignored the fact that Foles was playing with two All Pro linemen that season with Peters and Mathis. And that year was Chip Kelly's first season as a HC so teams weren't fully prepared for his meme college style offense. You use one good season as an example but ignore the fact that he was garbage in 2014 in the same system after Kelly got exposed. You Philthy fans are retarded

Daniel Constantine Marino Jr.

>So you're implying that Jackson single handedly made his oline perform better?
Jackson and the scheme.

>Why wasn't that the case last year?
You mean in 2018? It was the case. See .

>dabs on your big board

>retarded Niggles fan doesn't know who Evan Mathis is

huh, are you retarded? this has to be old Bay with his trip off.

It’s only a matter of time when a team gets a kicker that can regularly make 60/65 yard field goals. Once that happens you’re gonna see this game turn into nba 3 point chucks but with field goals.

They'll have to start extending the field soon.

>I was only pretending to be retarded

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lol these niggas can't even kick an XP consistently anymore

I don't see that happening. Tucker could probably make more 60 yarders than me misses, but he rarely gets the chance. You're kicking from midfield at that point, a miss gives the other team great field position. It's not comparable to the NBA because a 3-pointer is lower percentage, but higher points...in the NFL a field goal isn't even half a touchdown with the extra point, it's just not a big enough reward for the risk.

Reminder, THOMAS EDWARD BRADY makes any team he's on an instant Superb Owl favorite.

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Activate it

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who?

Imagine going from the greatest coach/owner pair.... to Gruden and Opie Davis?

literally the opposite, modern analytics hates field goals with a passion
It's all about going for it on 4th down and going deep, basically the chiefs model

Going from a team that treats you like a bitch to a team that will suck your dick, I can see it

*wins the trevor lawrence sweepstakes in your path*

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This after they make a ton of splash moves in FA/the Draft and everyone crowns them as "winning the offseason" just like last year.

That said, I'm genuinely looking forward to Ron getting his revenge on the Panthers.

Who the fuck is on Hard Knocks this year?

we're winning the owl this year... r-right nigglebros??

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The owl already happened this year, retard

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST CALL LAMEME I MEAN LAMAR A NIGGER THE COACHES SAID THEY HAD A PLAN HE'S SHOWING FLASHES IN CAMP THE MEDIA SAID SO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Good at beating shit team

There have been a lot of mistakes in this world, a lot of them talk in this thread, but I think Wojak and his related memes are the biggest blunder of time.

>There have been a lot of mistakes in this world, a lot of them talk in this thread, but I think Wojak and his related memes are the biggest blunder of time.

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the thing that keeps it from happening is you basically guarantee the other team 3 pts and probably somewhere in the range of 5 pts on average if you miss. so even if you're hitting 50% from 65yds it's absolutely not worth it

Name a college quarterback who goes into the gameplan meetings on Monday and throws his notes at the coaches. No one else game plans the way I do. No one else prepares the way I do. No one else knows football the way I do. No one else is as big as I am. No one else is as powerful a runner as I am. Pat Mahomes might throw the ball 80 yards and I can only throw the ball 72, but I guarantee he can't throw an out route the way I can. No one else can do what I can do. And I've truly figured out in this process, if I can maximize all my potential in every aspect of the game – this is bold – I do have the ability to be the greatest quarterback to ever play. Imagine taking Brady's intellect and Brady's preparation and putting it on a guy with Cam Newton's body. Why can't I be the greatest? The only thing stopping me from it is me. That's what's driving me now.

Have fun overpaying Pickscott and UHMARI.

>yfw da bears win da superb owl

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I want the bears to win just to see this spammed 100x more than it already is

Kirk Cousins is a faggot

>didnt even make the playoffs
Lmao

This happens every year. Panthers cant ever keep a consistent team

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fuck off cuck

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Zack Ertz save me

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>gingers

bump

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>me and brady’s sixth knee

imagine talking trash about a 23 year old qb with a 19-3 record, two divison titles he lead his team to, and unianimous mvp award. I'll take that over that over every qb drafted since 2015 except mahomes maybe.

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Someone is really eager for 0-3

>0-2
>5 turnovers

Tua to Redskins rumors heating up. You think it's just to try and get the Dolphins to trade up or does Washington really want Tua?

They really want him. Haskins is a Rosen tier bust and was a yuge reach at 15 last year and they prefered Jones to Haskins too anyway. The smokescreen stuff is just cope fans spew when they dont like a rumor. They gain nothing from a smokescreen since the Fins know if the Skins really want Tua why TF would they even accept a trade to begin with.

>You think it's just to try and get the Dolphins to trade up
Do you actually think Snyder can fleece anyone?

I hate Dwayne Haskins

Same. His fanboys only like him because hes a darkskin black. Literally no redeeming qualities as a QB.

>two divison titles he lead his team to
He won the division twice in a row? Must have done pretty well in those two playoff runs then

Ideally the Skins fleece some dumbass team out of a second for Haskins then draft Tua and bring back McCoy or Keenum to start the year while Tua sits on the bench ala Mahomes.

I have a noob question: when talking about a QBs arm strength are they talking about how far they can throw a pass, how fast they can throw a pass, or both?

*saves the Giants*

heh...nothin personnel nfce

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It's almost certainly a political ploy to make the Dolphins trade up. Unlike Kingsbury last year who was up his ass about wanting to recruit Murray out of High School and installing a college scheme in the NFL, Rivera doesn't pretend that he knows anything about QB play.

ynr Perry Fewell was the head coach of the Panthers for four games last year

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How far and how fast are part of it, since a QB with arm strength can throw farther and faster.
But the biggest advantage is being able to throw far and fast without being set or using perfect form, which take time and a decent pocket to accomplish.
For example, look at Mahomes' 3rd and 15 throw in the owl. It went 57 yards in the air. Most QBs in the NFL can throw 57 yards if they set up and put their bodies into it. But probably only Mahomes and maybe Josh Allen can get it that far under pressure and poorly set.

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Ron clearly wanted to re-sign Bradberry last year but the Panthers are obviously tanking this season and Bradberry would be one of the things that prevents that. Without him that secondary is in huge trouble.

Donte Jackson is an outstanding athlete with some incredible plays, but his tackling is shit and he's not as good/mature as he needs to be yet
Eric Reid is a great box safety and a monster against the run (I think he set a team record for tackles by a DB last year) but gets abused by tight ends in coverage
Tre Boston is better than he was earlier in his career but he clearly gambles trying to make plays on the football and his tackling isn't the best

Plus the fact that Tre Boston might not even come back, and the whole reason they brought him in last year was because they whiffed on a third-round pick like they've done every single season since the Super Bowl (Worley, Hall, and Gaulden were all busts and Grier is shit too)

Kill yourself Kirk

Is this a joke? He couldn't beat the Titans because he can't throw a pass more than 2 yards. Jim Harbaugh thought he could make the Wildcat a viable offense. He couldn't. Ravens are going to regress BAD next year. Book it. Lamar is trash and won't get a second contract.

His head is a fucking cube. And he chimps out hard on the sidelines when he doesn't win because >muh narrative. Fuck Lamar.

Kirk Cousins is a faggot

"Chimps Out"? You arent even using ur poltard term right. He never argues with the refs or other players only gets upset with himself when he messes up a play because hes a passionate dude.

seething laniggers fags

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YOU LIKE THAT

>$84 million guaranteed
>for a fag that can't get past the divisionals

sorry, we aren't talking about Lameme's contract in 3 years

Lamar is a gamer and winner, only tryhards try give af about allstar events.

cousins has won playoff games unlike lameme

The Titans were legit they only lost to the super bowl champs. If the Pats beat the Titans and the Ravens were matched up against the shitty Texans then the narrative would be completely different around Lamar because they almost certainly beat the Texans.

How did people give up on Dwayne Haskins so fast? I remember everyone giving him constant praise before

>Gets called out all thread for being a cuck and autistic Raven spamming since 2015

>Y-y-you're just obsessed with me

What a pathetic human being. Go post some more tripless "sick em old gay" fagposts that you shit up every thread with. Cuck.

>and winner
>0-2
pick 1 and only 1

Because he's bad. You can tell if a QB has "it" within like 8 games of him starting. Haskins is bad. Rosen tier.

>Go post some more tripless "sick em old gay" fagposts that you shit up every thread with. Cuck.
glad I'm not the only one who recognizes this spamming shithead for what he is

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Lamar is what, 21? Kirk Cucksins will never win MVP much less the big game

Because black new york niggas were certain he was doing to the Giants so they sucked him off hard. Now that hes on DC ghetto niggas there gotta cape for him because hes a brother.

Thats the thing these simps dont get. Lamar is on a significantly better path than Wince, Trubustsky, Gayfield, Allen and every other overhyped top pick these last few years.

>nick foles will never win the big game
>trent dilfer will never win the big game
>brad johnson will never win the big game
those QBs are all worse than Cousins and Cousins was 4th in passer rating in the entire league this last season
espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/table/passing/sort/QBRating/dir/desc

better peices, could win, but never say never
>simps
fucking zoomer faggot

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Kordell Stewart. The original negro QB who couldn't thrown.

Shaun King

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The buffalo bills are winning the superbowl in 2021

not with their schedule against the NFC West next year, that's almost 3 gauranteed losses there alone

They need to get a QB first

I can try this delusion thing

the bears are an elite team with mitch trubisky!

Quincy Carter

>Rams
>A guarenteed loss to anyone
Lol

Oh did they get a good QB?

Dwayne "Josh Rosen" Haskins should not be their QB of the future.

pretty sure Rivera is in charge

>actually believing this

Snyder did this exact thing when he hired Mike Shanahan and promised a coach-driven organization. Ron will be the one in charge until Snyder wants something and goes over Ron's head to get it.

Fucking shit, I wish Ron had held out for something better. He's too good a dude to be Snyder's fall guy.

I'm not sure Haskins to the Giants was really a thing at the 11th hour. The popular sentiment was that the Giants were keen on Jones but most thought they'd use No. 17 on him because the media didn't think teams were that interested in Jones as a first-round pick.

We live in a timeline where people are seething at the Tennessee Titans.

Jets fans on suicide watch

y. did they finally realize darnold is a bust.

plot of the latest curb your enthusiasm :^)

>when ur team doesnt have lameme nigson as its qb
thank god

People were seething weeks ago when Jeff Fisher got named to the Tennessee Sports Hall of Fame. Fuck 'em. Jeff Fisher is cool as fuck.

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Bruce allen existed back then, now the Redskins don't have a GM. Rivera is calling the shots

im supposed to be on suicide watch because?

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who is our wr of the future, higgins, jeudy or ruggs because he's fast like lightning?

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cd lamb

The divison next year is gonna be rough, let alone facing the NFC fucking west.

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Drafting wirfs. No jeudy

A trade with my eagles so we can pick the wrong guy

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Name a more based team than the bears

>there are people who exist that doesn't rate mahomes as a top 1 QB
Ishygddt

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All 31 of the others except the Browns, obv

I hope my cards draft a tackle first instead of drafting a receiver in round 1 of a deep receiver draft class.

hes second behind brady especially bc brady is reuniting with mr. coom

ok boomer.

objectively the correct response.

As backup to Garoppolo.

redpill me on Ruggs

mitchie mania

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have a drink on the trubros

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monitoring this thread

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>New coach Ron Rivera told Tua Tagovailoa he wants to bring him to Washington to compete with second-year quarterback Dwayne Haskins during their meeting at the NFL combine, a source told the South Florida Sun Sentinel. They felt like Dwayne was not the guy right now, source said.

It's over finbros, Tua is gone.

We got too cocky.

Do we draft Herbert now?

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retard! motherfuckin retarded keksucker!! eat shit and die scumbag!!! more on capital M.

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hey bh!! i got something for ya!!

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i'm in full cotnrol

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Yes. Look at the tape he's good, only question is his clutchness. Arm is like 10x stronger than tannys ever was

And the fact he turned the ball over a lot against the only good defenses he faced in college.

Makes you think

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Friendly reminder that Eli will be a Hall of Famer.

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If mahomes retired right now would he be a HoFer.

Terel Davis is one, isn't he?

Halfie
or
Further
Evaluation
Required

Yeah but who else in NFL has accomplished what mahomes has done in just the span of 2 regular seasons.

>no brady
>hardest schedule next season
>bunch of long term starters leaving in FA
everything's shaping up for the Patriots to draft Trevor Lawrence

Which dumdass team will waste his 1st round pick on Tua Tagowhatever? I hope it's the Redskins do they have 3 shit QBs

hes got a noodle arm bud

hopefully cardinals or broncos

haskins is snyders boy, theres no way hes letting him go

the mostt interesting might be
>Redskins
>Giants
>Panthers
>Patriots (will never happen lol)
>Bengals
>Chiefs
>Ravens
>Saints
>9ers

>Snyder's boy
that's racist

almost all those teams can say no or are ineligible

just saying what teams I think i'd like to see the most
Eagles just did the "All or Nothing" series for amazon which was really good, better than hard knocks IMO because it follows a full season.

Based and fuck the Ratbirds

>”sportsball”
>”i only watch it for the commercials”

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>/nfl/ still hasn't accepted that Josh Allen is the future of the NFL
get with the times

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I wish my my vikings but everyone other than diggs and somewhat thielen is boring

*cucks trubustsky out of his job and dabs on cuck cousins to win the nfc north in your path*

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>white QB
Get with the times

How much will the NFL rob the xfl roster at the end of the year?

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If we draft ANOTHER injury prone QB with the 2nd pick, I'm giving up on the rivera era

Ta'amu and Walker are almost certainly going to get some looks. I have doubts about Cardale unless he gets it together for the rest of the season. WRs and RBs may get some looks as practice squad guys. The eagles WR Greg Ward jr was on the commanders and he got to make it to the NFL. even statistically upstaged their 2nd round WR pick kekek
the renegades oline has been pretty good so they might lose a couple guys to nfl backup contracts, but don't expect too many players overall to make it in the NFL. the play gap is pretty fucking big

Haskins is garbage

Why not they already wasted last years pick by getting Haskins and have a chance to get a QB that is actually good

i wouldn't even be mad desu. case was based, and we should've kept him. made the O-line look decent for the most part and he didn't even have dalvin cook.

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This is true. Cardale has been hot garbage last two weeks

He's been bad all year he got away with a lot of would be interceptions the first two weeks because the DBs dropped easy interceptions, but since his team won and he had a lot of yards people overlooked it.

Yeah, just not a first rounder.

The Vipers will just replace the Jags

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>I dont want to waist time being a combine athlete
based or cringe?

>someone play for me...

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>waist

sooon brothers...

based

>You'll never get rid of Booger. He'll be gassing the refs forever.
as intended

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really makes one fucking think that he won the "mvp"

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non-troll general edition:

>non-troll
newfaggot, you're 5 hours too late
actual right general