Can he truly be considered the GOAT without a WC?
Ronaldo obviously has the strongest claim to that title, but it feels like a wobbly one. A GOAT is more than just numbers and statistics (although it is a sizeable portion), it's about transcending the sport and willing your team to victory in the biggest ocassions. Perhaps it's unfair because the WC is once every 4 years, as opposed to say the Superbowl or NBA title. UCL is most analogous to these two, in which Ronaldo is clearly by far the best and most clutch performer in its history. But unfortunately, in world football, the WC is the Pinnacle. What do you Bros think?
Can he truly be considered the GOAT without a WC?
>the get lucky, cheat and rig title
yikes
Please keep that GOAT shit to apehoop
He was born in Portugal ffs Most of his career he played with Raul Meireles, Miguel Veloso, Nani, Quaresma, Duda, Eliseu etc
>unironically based user
>goat is baphomet not ALL TIME best
But that's what you'd expect a GOAT to do.
For example, Superbowl 51, Pats were down 3-28 in the final minutes of the 3rd quarter. Odds for the other team to win were at 99.6%. Then, Brady entered God mode and had arguably the most clutch performance in history to bring his team back and win in overtime 34-28. That's what a GOAT does.
If Messi didn't exist, he would be considered the GOAT.
>Can he truly be considered the GOAT without a WC?
wait till 2022
In soccer the only time a player won a WC all by himself was Maradona in 1986
Ronaldo had Cafu, Roberto Carlos, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho etc
Zidane had a golden generation
Pele had Garrincha, Vava, Rivellino, Gerson, Carlos Alberto, Jairzinho, Tostao etc
messi isn’t even the best argentine
When will you Americans understand that football is a TEAM sport, there are no bradies and jordans here. No player can beat an opponent by himself.
Brady didnt win it by him self either of course
He isnt even on the field half the time
Americans just love simple storylines
>Maradona won by himself
show me his world cup final goals
>Can he truly be considered the GOAT without a WC?
A Euro title is worth more than the WC if you judge it by difficulty to win. Lot of random shitty countries in the WC for big teams to walk over. Not much of that in the Euro’s, the quality is much higher.
Combine Nations League + Euros and the fact Portugal never even made the Final of an international competition before Ronaldo and that’s worth more than a World Cup.
Honestly think they’ll be a top 3 contender come 2022 as well with Ronaldo being a super sub, he could yet win one.....
Garrincha in 62 might also count.
>In soccer the only time a player won a WC all by himself was Maradona in 1986
stop this meme
This
This is clearly false. Greece has a fucking EURO.
>Stats arent everything
Actually they arent even counted. Maradona has worse stats than a lot of players and he is considered GOAT beyond messi and CR7. Stick to apehop and handegg and baseball burger
he still needs edelman and gronk to help clutch the win. if he didn't have those two he wouldn't have won no matter how GOAT he is.
Maradona has the best documentaries about him thanks to his fascinating life.
I don't agree very much with "the GOAT must win WC", because that would mean players with shitty NTs could never being the GOAT, but i agree the GOAT must at least have amazing performances in the WCs and must be able to carry them single-handedly. Not sure CR7 meets these requirements.
Pelé for me is still the GOAT