MATCH OF THE DAY THREAD

MOTD is scheduled to start in 30 minutes on BBC One. It is highly likely that the Last Night of the Proms overruns YET AGAIN.

Running order: Nor/ManC, Wol/Che, Liv/New, Tot/CP, ManU/Lei, SU/Sou, BHA/Bur.

>Gary Lineker presents the best of the action from Saturday’s seven Premier League fixtures. Reigning champions Manchester City visit newly promoted Norwich, Frank Lampard’s Chelsea face a tricky trip to Wolverhampton Wanderers, and last season’s runners-up Liverpool host Newcastle.

Striking legends Alan Shearer and Ian Wright are your """expert pundits""".

Attached: motd thread.jpg (460x276, 84K)

Other urls found in this thread:

freeintertv.com/view/id-2209/
youtube.com/watch?v=QacxL3VHVwY
youtube.com/watch?v=-W77154J0-w
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12741743
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

LAND OF HOPE AND GLORY

Missed all the fun today so will watch for once

shan't be staying up til 11pm to watch this

Anyone got a link for stream?

I just watch it on tv

>click 'l have a tv license' on iplayer

Attached: devilish.gif (425x481, 1.51M)

same. i watch it in my living room

Like how Linecuck has tried to throw people off with this interview as everyone knows he's a creepy sex pest.

Attached: ED2_ViKX4AAaaNc.jpg (1200x1049, 254K)

>EU flags at the proms
disgraceful

Cant wait to you fuckers are begging us for fresh produce

How about if im not an English man with taxed TV access

Well that's a darn shame, but I guess you'll have to do without

And did those feet in ancient time,
Walk upon England's mountains green?
And was the holy lamb of god
On England's pleasant pastures seen?
And did the countenance divine,
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among these dark satanic mills?
Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear, oh clouds unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire!
I will not cease from mental fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
Til we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land

IN ENGLAND'S GREEN AND PLEASANT LAAANNDDD

It's all very cringey. This lot didn't give a fuck about their European identity before the 2016 referendum and why they associate being European with the EU is misguided and deluded at best.

>there are people in the world who are not even a bit English
sad

>there are people in London who are not even a bit English

lads, I’ve got tears in my eyes
this is true kino

>there are people

>tfw told myself two years ago there was no need for me to get my FAC because Brexit will be dealt with shortly
>tfw literally gonna be a shitstorm soon and I am unarmed
What a mistake.

Same songs everytime can't they sing some other old tunes

this desu how about Knees up Mother Brown?

Do you want to give Margaret and Bitsy a stroke? Old people don't like change

why do they skip the verse about confounding their knavish tricks, it's the best part of the anthem

When are England going to get their own national anthem?

give me a stream you proddy cunts

Sorry, no can do. Shouldn't have been such a cunt about the backstop

Lineker's going to be fucking fuming about this. Every fucking year this overruns.

No.

Anyone who doesnt have a tv would just watch it on iplayer.

Enjoy paying for it
Im watching it for free
Boris has you all fucked
freeintertv.com/view/id-2209/

Linekar loves immigrants, this is his jam

Lineker needs to fuck off and die.

>watch the goals everyone already saw on reddit but with insipid studio analysis in between
I don't get how this show is still going

Can't believe Boris' new MOTD legislation

Gonna quickly pop to the shop you lads want anything?

And they pay over £80m per year for it.

Attached: wrthhrt.jpg (620x413, 27K)

No continentals allowed

Attached: Hard Brexit.webm (790x434, 1.91M)

love the theme song simple as

Boomers

It won't fucking let me, of course they wait until I make the account to tell me, fucking bbc nonces

>they

Kinder Bueno

Attached: 0_JS192439430.jpg (2036x1227, 504K)

You’d be surprised by the number of brexit barrys in places like skegness and grimsby that don’t browse reddit

Got nothing against classical music but the Proms are bent as fuck, bunch of hoity toity posh silly people

So when will Liverpool throw the title away, lads? February?

You.. you do realise Austria has a TV license, right? Of course you don't. Your mummy pays it for ya.

Within the next 3 weeks

Fucking Hell. Gareth Thomas is HIV+.

can someone whatsapp me when this shite finishes and MOTD starts

07632866200

cheers

Yeah but we have better TV

>gay man gets aids
shocker. what next, BBC presenter turns out to be paedo?

>AIDS
Not quite. Plenty of meds available now that prevent that.

The commentary tends to be decent, the highlights are well put together and flow well, see more than just the goals, don't have to trawl through reddit individually finding each goal, can chill out after a long day at work and just switch off and watch, packing a day of football into an hour and a bit, plenty of reasons to watch it, even if the studio analysis tends to be inane, I also think Lineker is a good presenter, even if he's a cuck

But they're the cheapest classical shit you'll ever find.

And did those feet in modern time,
Walk upon England's urban grey?
And was the holy lamb of Allah
On England's pleasant carparks seen?
And did the countenance divine,
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Mecca builded here
Among these dark infidel mills?
Bring me my bomb of burning gold!
Bring me my knife of desire!
Bring me my acid, oh clouds unfold!
Bring me my truck of fire!
I will not cease from mental fight,
Nor shall my machete sleep in my hand
Til we have built Mecca
In England's grey and urban land

kek reverse image searched it and found this from the same funeral

Attached: 0_JS192439171.jpg (1983x1227, 390K)

>austria

>guy verhofstadt at lib dems party conference
Fucking hate that meddling gap-toothed cunt.

>Woofter gets the woofter disease
Stunning.

Just maxed out Rinoa's HP on the old FF8 remaster

then why are you going out of your way to watch the BBC, mate? If your TV is so great, why does everybody fucking copy us?

Fuck off Ribena

>Not watching Wossy on ITV until MOTD

Seeing as I had to come to this cesspool of a website to find a stream, while I'm here, does anyone have the slippy G comic with demba ba and the pepe / wojak meme, funniest fucking picture I've ever seen, still remember it years later

Of yeah, Gyppo funeral at Stokesley. Fucking embarrassing display.

Attached: 0_JS192439433.jpg (2051x1227, 480K)

>Defeat Ultima Weapon
>Refine 99 Ultima
>Apply 99 Ultima to Squall's Strength
>Get Lionheart Blade
>Cast Aura on him
>Spam Limit Break
>Win game
Final boss still takes 20 mins using this tactic. Rather grim. Make sure you get Odin before you fight Seipher tho.

>falling for the nationalism meme
embarrassing

>89,700,000,000,000,000,000,000% inflation
How does this work? Start the day as a millionaire and barely have enough money to buy a toilet roll by lunchtime?

5 years ago I was around my parents when an old family friend got shit faced and started ranting about how the BBC should be abolished. I thought he was nuts.
Now I agree with him.

Fuck off, Guy

>be gyppos
>get kicked off local development area for new housing
>reee for months
>finally get removed
>come back 4 months later and resettle
>for some reason the law requires people to get another moving on order
>thefts go up, crime in general goes up, trash and traffic goes up
Wow. Almost like a certain Austrian had the right idea.

>moved into new flat today
>got skidmarks all over the toilet with first poo

Shall I just move out lads?

>Make sure you get Odin before you fight Seipher tho

My inner autist can't cope with the thought of losing Odin for Gilgamesh, even though he is a cool dude

the MOTD commentary is recorded after the game is over. it is so obvious

>Source: 2011
Thanks, BBC

Do Africans ever stop dancing?

DICKS OUT FOR MUGABE

>falling for the nationalism meme
embarrassing

Because highlights already in a package with likeable (for some) guests is better than watching souless goal clips with french commentary where you get no sense of the game.

Not abolished, just embrace an alternative funding model that doesn't criminalise people that don't pay and allows options.

Three Lions

Say you have a quid at the start of the day and can buy a Zobwogen (a made up thing that costs a quid), then by tomorrow you'd need 245,753,420,000,000,000,000 quid to buy a Zobwogen

Reminder that Mugabe used to be a hero of the left.

jesus christ

Attached: 0_JS192439470[1].jpg (2170x1227, 489K)

It's a pretty cool event, mind. Gilgamesh is also rather crap. Cactaur is still the gayest summon to get. Not as bad as FFX's Super Boss fights. That shit sucked and I quit.

Proper ethnic voice over for this piece. Good work

where's the streamlink

Fuck off, Guy.

Sounds like an investment opportunity to me. Buy one, sell it a day later and retire to your own private island.

Saudi Arabia BTFO

>Saudis being fucked by some towelheads with toys bought off Amazon

until the libtards got btfo by reality. kek
the left is allergic to facts and logic

This is bollocks and it's obvious, it's all just good editing

did you get a stream?

well yeah obviously, he was a heroic leader of the anti colonial resistance for many years. no one really has anything bad to say about him until he stopped being left wing. shame, he should have been a mandela

liberalism isn't left wing in europe, fuck off back to the states, dumb yank

okay

thought mugabe died years ago not gonna lie

Wish the US would pull out of the ME and let these fucknuts go at each other.

Any white reporters allowed in the BBC studio?

No they do commentary over the highlights, it's not the endited match commentary

Wonder who's gonna be last tonight

I really don't give a shit how it's done as long as it's good to watch and why would you?

PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI

Gays v Racists

yeah they get the highlights and splice them with the commentary recorded in a studio. it's great editing and money for old rope for the commentators. 10 minutes work at most

>liberalism isn't left wing in europe,
That may have been true a century ago.

He was deposed a couple years ago and a big deal was made of it. That’s what you’re thinking of.

just bought this new toilet, works great

just using the one that you posted (assuming there is only one hitler here), posted in a few group chats so hopefully one of the lads helps out

>They're showing a story on a nicked loo
The news has to stop

Attached: 1564557704103.jpg (960x562, 180K)

Not a fan of how the news kept portraying Mugabe as some hero instead of the murdering dictator he was

how's the action on the flush handle? good smooth action?

he was deposed and they just let him live? wow what a country of cucks whichever country that was. egypt i think, or south africa, somewhere around there

>toilet
>it's called america
KWAB

Attached: Una.jpg (389x617, 69K)

>FUCKING LEFTY KEKS!!!111!!!!111

Attached: Capture.png (512x583, 17K)

Million quid gold loo nicked from a royal palace. Not your average toilet theft story

Proof?

what has being non-white got to do with anything?

I wanna piss on the seat of America

No, it's becoming more true all the time. People just forget what liberalism actually means.

good man just checking you saw it

at least Sam Curran plays for England due to Mugabe seizing their family farm, so it wasn't all bad.

Attached: curran.jpg (845x578, 37K)

I do this thing called thinking

It doesn't cut them off mid sentence or include them rambling about Interstellar like they did today during the Spurs game

yeah it's not the best quality but it will do, it's very smooth tbf

liberal economic views are right wing, that's just a fact. left/right in the economy can be understood as a continuum of equality, with left being most equal and right most unequal. liberals doctrinally believe in economic inequality to promote economic activity. therefore, right wing.

It's not like there is a narrow definition of what liberalism is.

S L O W

Ederson is so shit

>these BBC shows
>a Love Island rip off
>a rap version of The X Factor

They’re wasting more tax payer money now than they ever have.

It's not like there is a narrow definition of what liberalism is.

What liberalism is now is defined more by social issues, not economic ones.

damn, really wish Britain was all white. and I wish people identified as British instead of Welsh, English and Scottish so we could all be one people

>gookmoot

well that was frightening

Damn black people are so cool

based pukki

Gotta get the youff and ethnic audience

started having a bit of an existential crisis there

Gary with the bants

Why does the MotD commentator sound so unenthusiastic? Match of the season and he's commentating like Robot Wars.

>completely unmarked

what the actual fuck

I don't even really know what a MOTD is desu

and that's a good thing

CHEEP CHEEP

Attached: yellow bird.jpg (800x600, 52K)

It's just like watching Brazil

Why do they all have some urban nig music over the top too?

I've noticed ITV's advert for the Rugby WC have some anime visuals, but with fucking grime music. Grime nigs don't even follow RU.

for me it's replacing gary lineker with craig charles

Well, yeah, if your redefine words then they can be as broad as you like.

once drank in the same pub as Kenny McLean when he played for Aberdeen.

AMA

they're trying to get DOWN WIT DE YOUF

massive
ovulating
thespian
daughter

im starting to think city are liverpool under rodgers were if you just attack them they fall apart

>oh, and player x is coming up for the corner.. he doesn't score many goals you know.. and WHAT?! HE HEADS IN! amazing coincidence that I happened to be talking about him seldom scoring just before he did! what organic commentary from me, the live commentator of this match commenting on events for the first time

White man celebrating like a black man.

>tfw the theme is likely going to be some bludfam version of world in union
grim

I like how no one ever mentions that his brother is a paedo too.

Ederson is wank

Because it's a bunch of boomers sitting in a room saying "how do we get the youth to watch TV?" "They like rap music, yes that's a good idea".

>oh its a completely isolated yellow card incident we are showing you for no reason, he'll have to watch himself in the second half!

problem is, many teams in the league are mongs who still believe the "PEP IS INFALLIBLE" meme

what the fuck was that

not really relevant is it

okay thanks for the explanation
have you ever been in a threesome?

This could be true. I hope this marks a change in how the opposition face City, because watching them lean on teams who crowd the box and hope is shit.

The power of South American defending

Genuinely can’t believe Otamendi still starts on a regular basis for us, rather have Fernandinho play there. Why doesn’t he fuck off to Turkey or China?

Why can they just record fresh reactions to clips and told to just talk on what's happening. Also he was just cut off for the pukki goal

>What liberalism is now is defined more by social issues, not economic ones.
to you perhaps, but the economy will always have primacy. the social follows. can be seen in how the tories are evidently closer to the lib dems, despite since Theresa being leader being very different socially

>conspiracy theory

no

City are fucked without Laporte. Poor decision by Pep not to have found a Kompany replacement.

>tfw everyone besides britbongs likes it

Delia looks good for a 90 y/o

Attached: festive alex tettey.jpg (478x358, 44K)

I'm excited for Pep's interview where he pretends he isn't seething

>to you perhaps
But it's clearly not just me though. Look at the world around you.

CUTE GIRL WITH GLASSES AND A BUN

POST PIC

>muh politics
fak off u poofs

Mad they record the commentary after the game, yet keep the managers at the stadium until midnight for interviews.

unironically should have gone for maguire

PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI PUKKI

Attached: [PUKKI intensifies].jpg (1157x1200, 170K)

I already did my cums to Pukki desu it's fine

thinkin this pukki might be a player lads

Alri alri alri

thats correct teemu pukki is a player for norwich city

did someone order a fat peadophile?

amazing to think sterling can play this well despite all the racism he faces, absolute inspiration this lad

she cute

Attached: 1568485226432.png (507x821, 1.02M)

This!

Maybe. Think he should have tried to tempt Bonucci to The Etihad meself, or maybe de Vrij

good man

haha yeah

>losing to Norwich reserves
o i am laffin

Indeed, if you and your Stalinist ilk can redefine liberalism and overbearing state control over thought and deed I guess we just need to get with the programme.

she's 14

...

Sergio Agüer-No

me in the background

>8 players injured
>had to have third keeper on the bench just to round out the numbers

How the actual fuck did they beat City. this makes no sense

Does she have a younger sister?

It's pukki!

Why, why does every single Yea Forums thread have to include politics. Why?

So fucking sick of this shit.

Every single goal was a City defensive fuck-up, that's how.

this desu. Pep is fucking annoying and i want him to leave the prem

cute

>I’m not upset

Attached: B05D2894-56BE-4159-9831-568B3F9CE74A.jpg (1024x576, 80K)

looks a bit like Lily James

city's defenders are shit
and ederson is also shit but inexplicably over-rated

what did Pep whisper to him?

Or just wind your neck in and accept that the US sets the social, political and cultural narrative in the West and stop getting mad when people use the word 'liberal' to describe people who you know exactly who they're referring to.

>and what a result for Daniel Farke, who proves the positive benefit of immigration within the European Union
fucking hell, gary.

The new show MOTDx is literally three niggers and a negress.

She's a bit young looking, no nonce behaviour in the thread !

soul 3 - 2 soulless

Really this. Stones / Otamendi / Ederson shat the bad.

Stephen Hendry is managing Norwich?

pukki looks like the coom version of valtteri bottas

>IM SO RELAXED AND HAPPY WE LOST HAHA WHO EVEN CARES ANYWAY LEL
god i hate this fucking faggot, be upset you fucking basedboy

okay, show me one liberal who doesn't have economic polocy as the cornerstone of their ideology. the whole past 40 years has been a project of implementing liberal economic theory.

fuck are you talking about mate

fuck off septic, not welcome itt.

Signed up for Universal Credit so I could get stop being NEET, chose my place of birth and my first pet as security questions so now I'm reminded of how I dropped out of uni and had to move back home and my dead dog everytime I log into their site.

Attached: 1429023834831.jpg (251x240, 5K)

B R O W N

Attached: EER2R3jWkAINntE[1].jpg (624x351, 40K)

He cute

If only Man City could afford to buy £40m players as defensive back up.

Friendly reminder we are a Matthew Stevens and a Dominic Dale general

Tottenham Son Korea joke
I cba to write it

He looks like Federer's older bro

You forgot Walker.

you now remember irish MAN Roy Keane making english KEK Ian Wright look like a MUG on LIVE TV

>never buy an argentinian defender; never repeat my mistake.

me neither desu

mate. i love dogs but if you still haven't got over the death of your first dog you have problems

Funny how the leaches of society talk about politics the most.

is Ian Wright 'one of the good ones'?

Yeah and De Bruyne's clone

>Just accept American retardation as fact
Nah

That third Norwich goal was hysterical

haha I get it, because oriental people don't have souls
is that the joke?

>it's a "we have to give credit to [lower quality team]" episode

Imagine giving Jermaine fucking Jenas of all people his own show. You've got Alex Scott on the payroll, at least she's something to look at.

Kinda but Barnes is better

Runs in the family, innit.

Hey, one of you lying bastards said they got Pukki on a free.

Pep won’t accept the PSG job unless the owners guarantee him a 600m budget and can keep hold of Neymar.

getting cancelled after half a season don't worry

They did

Very similar to the first goal in England v Kosovo

who else is black and young enough to appeal to da yoof?

chelsee grimes is pretty qt
shame she bats for the other team

You don't have to accept it. Just don't get upset. You know the sort of person they are referring to.

>Otamendi shows about as much interest at that corner as Michael Owen did for Newcastle

Let it go Alan.

my mate Kwame

Even if they paid 50m for him it would be seen as bargain at this point. Truly impressive

dunning-kruger effect exemplified wonderfully here

>Early signs here we won't get a repeat of 6-4
Wew la.

they meant Buendia was signed from Getafe for 1.5m
hilariously, Leeds had first option on him but didn't sign him

Lineker said they got him Getafe for 1.5 mil.

it's always been like that. don't you remember pep's first season? the problem is that City are usually too good to get the ball off

mate, the americans don't even want to accept that. they have people there smart enough to know that it's a retarded inversion

Robbie

What an ominous thing to say, almost like he already knew the score and was recording that after the fact

>lelds

Disgraceful Negroid-Fest. No philtrums either so they're not even human. Just look at those fucking skull shapes. What became of us.

Blootah

1.5 mil is what Norwich's whole squad cost, Pukki was free

They did. They were talking about Beuinda the midfielder who was £1.5m from Spain.

>Don't accept it, just surrender utterly to their interpretation
Nah

>the strength of the wolf is in the pack
hate that shit at grounds desu

>and tammy abraham starts for chelsea today, he's never scored a premier league hat-trick, and no player has ever scored a hat-trick and an own goal in the same game... this game promises a lot and I definitely have no knowledge of any events that could conspire, oh it's a fresh experience for me clive no doubt about it

They were talking about Buendia

Eh, Lily James is a goddess, this girl is just cute.

Lineker is a huge cunt, HUGE!

Oh.
I retract my previous statements.

the coloured one from F2 Freestylers

Gary I love immigrants Lineker’s son was nearly killed by them

Attached: image.jpg (1242x1462, 632K)

barnes is an institutional racism fuckwit

eh idc where he goes. he'll disappoint there too

ngl people not having their teams as a flair is making this thread really complicated
I don't know how to banter without teamflairs fuck me

Calm down.

NGUBU

>Oluwafikayomi Oluwadamilola "Fikayo" Tomori
Proper Canadian name, that. Glad he plays for England.

>Woolves

>If you expose me like that again you long haired cunt I'll get my boys from Qatar to castrate every testicle in your family tree and dope every defend against your ablino rate pukkshit you hear me you small team mentally faggot.

Attached: image (1).jpg (630x445, 113K)

Wish a nigger would

Honestly lads l dont give a fuck about your political opinions

hate to break it to you but sierra leonans in sierra leone aren't immigrants

How long before England fields its first all black XI? 2025?

just needs a nose job and some professional make up, do you think celebs are stunning before they become famous?

doesn't look like wolves are going to dick the premier league this year

love it when a defender scores a top quality goal like that desu

Lads, Oluwafikayomi Oluwadamilola "Fikayo" Tomori better than Adetayo Oluwatosin Olusegun Adio Aduramigba Iretioluwa Edun? They're both English U21 players. Who will make it?

Attached: mfw thinking about it.gif (600x663, 1.53M)

user this thread has more unique posters than the UK has Sierra Leonian migrants.

Anyone who played their adventure games could tell you that's just how they operate down their anyway. He should have known what to expect.

Europa League effect

They will be eventually. Every nig that can walk, swim, or bribe their way out of that useless, cursed, continent, will.

celebs are celebs by birthright

people have worked out how to play against them now

>ohh terrific finish from Tomori! it's no doubt the best of chelsea's goals this afternoon...ahh I mean, definitely the best goal scored so far, it may be the only one after all

he talks blacker than usual on it as well and it's pretty cringey. obviously faking it

there is no correlation between skull shape or race and intelligence, that was long disproved. you have to go back.

> They were ripping his clothes off, they’ve taken his phone and everything out of his pockets – he only had his fags, being a silly smoker, typical Harry, and he was terrified – genuinely terrified ~ Gary Lineker
They stole all his camera equipment

Attached: image.jpg (615x586, 313K)

Are you comparing Jermaine Jenas to hooligans in Sierra Leone?

All of Gary's kids look like the mutt meme. lmao

Attached: lineker.jpg (615x409, 40K)

Edun was on loan at Ipswich and was perhaps the worst player I've ever seen. Until I looked across the field and saw Donacien.

Well he is from Shottingham

There are literally millions of these savage cunts crawling across Europe you dumb cunt.

haha yeah

>2019
>samefagging

Europa League, not even once.

Serves him right for taking tens of thousands of pounds worth of camera equipment to a fucking shanty town. I'd have mugged him on principle alone.

Bournemouth
Watford
Newcastle
Wolves
Aston Villa
Crystal Palace
choose 3 to relegate

She's cuter because she supports Norwich

So, Oluwafikayomi Oluwadamilola "Fikayo" Tomori is the future England player? Or will Canada or Nigeria nick him?

Watford
Newcastle
Palace

eddie meme
hertfordshire nobodies
woy

>keep telling everyone Tammy was gonna be GOAT tier
>huur he no look liek me he can do da footbal

There are very clear links between skull shape and race. You can tell the race of someone by their skull. Many academic disciplines do.

newcastle villa and i'd send shitfield poonited down as well desu

Villa, Wolves and Mememouth

hate money clubs

>you now remember that own goal
youtube.com/watch?v=QacxL3VHVwY

Palace villa watford

Oh my

kek

>solves Wolves

Attached: 1023190622.jpg (644x428, 29K)

clap clap clap clap

CHELSEA

>Chelsea are now an academy team
>Lampard is the manager
>It's working
What a weird timeline

Attached: 1537992563711.jpg (500x376, 34K)

Hopefully all of them

bournemouth, wolves, palace. all just awful.


and as I stated, there is no correlation between race and IQ. IQ correlates with wealth and income for obvious reasons, as all knowledge is obviously socially constructed

>doubting the Woy
When will you people learn?

Goalkeepers fault, he fell over.

It should be fucking law that the commentators have to say their full name at least once.

>making Frank hang around until 10:30

based

>its working
They're 6th

Great dedication from Frank to stick around for the interview, probably knew the proms would overrun as well.

Was more talking about the god but ok

mental that frank is still there

I'd doubt him after today's embarrassment.

>Lampard is actually good at interviews
Fucking hell. How can he give good interviews but others are 'Err it was a good game. They score. We score. We won, I am happy.'.

l like Tammy

nuno nuno have a shave

Tammy is a handsome lad

no homo

Abraham's got uncanny valley hair.

>the city of Rui Patricio

Lampard was always good in interviews, even as a player

he's not a bonehead whose mind is governed exclusively by cliches

Attached: 21071__nuno_1[1].jpg (400x600, 31K)

lampard's iq is like 150 apparently

He's a certified genius, 150+ iq man. A* in Latin.

>i trust you'll be watching match of the day this evening

Err Gary, MotD is no now you spacker

>Mount and Abraham could be the best partnership the premier league has seen since Michael Owen and the treatment table

Alan pls.

miss those stupid headphones they used to make the managers wear for their interviews desu

He always was.

should I put Abraham in my fpl team?
replacing jota

yes, well done today tammy, well done...
but just know, you'd better keep this form up, because one more blunder like that own goal and I will be taking myself to twitter to let you know how I feel

Yeah I know but that was football. he actually went into his tactical theory and shit which is refreshing as fuck.

Well he has said cliches during player interviews but that was ana ctual interesting interview.

yeah but as a player, never seen him do a manager interview.

English is his native language so it puts him ahead of like 80% of managers in the premier league straight away.

Frank's family is tied up behind the camera in the studio.

>let commentators comment over the highlights after the fact
>but the studio analysis and manager interviews have to be live
just cant work it out lads

Dyche can speak English as a native and he never talks about his tactics or players or anything. It's all about muh diving.

Those headphones made some kino moments

Attached: 1567546243533.jpg (283x178, 10K)

Half eleven and the Liverpool game still hasn’t started. I want to go to bed

>Michael Owen derby

Shut up you chundering apes

>dyche
>tactics

I've had two pints and am really sleepy, any reason to not have an early one?

Manager interview isn't live mate. It's done prior to the show.

kek

obviously you clown. any winger/striker playing thats first pick for a top 6 club and under 7.5 mil should automatically be in your team

james, mount and tammy

Yeah Frank Lampard stayed behind at the stadium for that interview six hours later

>UEFA ban Chelsea from transfers to try and punish them
>it makes them stronger

Attached: 1559163448544.png (663x801, 759K)

Gerrit up t’big man

i'm going to livestream my suicide

This nibba's watching from the future

Going to drop the N-Bomb lad?
It's become quite the in thing to do

Yeah but my 9 year old niece can enunciate herself better than Dyche, not really a fair comparison.

>Liverpool playing
Yawn. They win. Who cares.

>Kevin Oghenetega Tamaraebi Bakumo-Abraham (born 2 October 1997), known as Tammy Abraham, is an English professional footballer who plays as a striker for Premier League club Chelsea and the England national team

Kevin lmao

There is a correlation with IQ. The argument you are looking for (and offering yourself as I didn't mention it) is that 'IQ tests are catered to the Western system of Education'. That's a good reason why Sub-Saharan africans perform so poorly as a group. Why Japanese people do so well gets in the way of that though.

The correlation is there but can be challenged (but is also very, very, true).

>D-Don't forget to mention my book, Gary.

Attached: 1375123784864.jpg (640x441, 121K)

>wrap your arm around another person's neck and yank them to the floor
>not a penalty

Typical ALB nonsense

newcastle goal was good

Can you do it before 12? im kippered

>It's all about muh diving
kek, that's so Dyche

>5-4-1

Attached: 1549311362351.png (143x124, 33K)

There are correlations between skull shape & race, and race & IQ. It is impossible for there not to be some link between race & IQ given those facts. Sorry, Nigger.

Or I'll kill you and harvest your hamstrings

Chamberlain played shite. He’s not going to get many games this year and could see him being a bench player for the rest of his Liverpool career

Jetro Willems was my FM/Fifa 16 bff, happy to see him again.

Luckerpool wins again

>le 25 year old prospect

Sumptuously

Steve Bruce really does have a big fat head

And a big flat nose

He's got a big fat most things.

Not that.

>Couldn't craft that finish

Attached: 1559004062715.jpg (409x509, 54K)

Is Abraham’s form proof that racially bullying works??

"and another thing, it's been three years since we had that bloody referendum"

Wish I had that confidence to show off my fat pale bod

May take time to fully recover his match fitness

Dug his defenders out of a hole they dug themselves.

He fought burglars

Attached: image.jpg (1277x720, 305K)

>now you remember steve bruce scoring 20 goals in a season for man u playing as a centre back

>no ex-Liverpool player on the panel

no, the main reason is that economic structures force third worlders to be poor, and force most non whites in white countries to be poor. as I stated, wealth and income cause higher IQ. if you're going to try to pre empt my argument at least do it properly

Van Dijk of his day

youtube.com/watch?v=-W77154J0-w

and that's a good thing

No england caps

you're a plastic if you want City to win their third in a row over Liverpool this season

I want them both to lose

I'd rather neither won desu. Dislike them both.

What if I basically don't care?

correlation =/= causation. basic stuff mate.

HE SHOULD BE HELD TO ACCAHNT

like the majority of neutrals, I want liverpool to win

I want literally any of the other 18 teams to win it rather than City or Livershit, but City are lesser of two evils.

he embarrassed us in front of based Pamela Anderson there

no you're not

Its Leicester for me.
Again.

If City win another title Sterling will be hyped up even more, for neutrals no one wants to see that happen

More of a John Terry.

Your argument is poor and disproven by any basic knowledge of the systems and processes you are describing. The one I envisaged you using is better/more commonly employed. I'll aim lower next time I talk to a stupid nigger.

>Origi is the kind of striker that likes to go up against defenders. Whereas Firmino is the kind of forward that comes deep and receives the ball. And some strikers are more interested in race horses.

Alan stop.

Don't care about Sterling being hyped up. I fucking despise Liverpool and despise Man City. Either winning the PL is as bad as the other.

Kek

>Pistol Phallus

Shearer went a bit quiet when Owen pointed out his attempts to manoeuvre away from the Geordies lmao.

>racists have never heard of the Flynn Effect

Honestly forgot Man U and Spuds existed.

omg this i cant handle a black player being praised

Turning it off. Who cares about a bunch of mid table and bottom of the league teams

haha yeah

Everyone forgets about those things anyway, like how Liverpool fans conveniently forget how Gerrard tried to force a move to Chelsea

>Flynn Effect
Explain this
t. racist

all the worthwhile teams have been shown, time for bed

me favourite player is Ngubu

Son ate my dog

>Heung-min was put in the 19/20 World 11 nomination list
>he scored 12 goals last season in the PL
>Lacazette, Aubameyang (golden boot winner), Vardy, Richardlson, Pogba and a few others all scored more
lmao

>it’s a Pochettino fluctuating weight episode

I remember

Can't wait until Crewe make it to the EPL because I'll have been dead for 300 years.

Same, only farmers after this. Gonna play rdr2 for an hour then bed I reckon.

True actually, I'm racist and have never heard of it.

well im definitely not a racist but for some reason I hate raheem sterling and hate when pundits praise him. only I konw the truth, that he is shit. plus when he speaks out about racism for some reason I get really angry
plus he struts around and is rich, and people shouldnt do that, especially people like him.

is Zaha finished or just not bothered?

Liverpool without Rick Parry might’ve won a league title

Attached: image.jpg (615x409, 184K)

no, higher income = better education, from which IQ derives entirely. why are you unable to construct a counterargument, and insist on using racial slurs instead? were you not aware that racism correlates negatively with IQ? you're doing extraordinarily poorly, my stupid friend.

Basically IQ increases as nutrition and general quality of life improves
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12741743

Danny Rose taking his depression out on Zaha

no its to do with skull shapes. learn some science like me

The Flynn Effect exists to explain WHY niggers perform worse than whites. You seem to be aware that they/you do. So that's good. Remember that fact. You may know a list of reasons why you're dumber, sure. Excuses even. You're still living a life dominated by the Bell Curve.

PIC OF CUTIE SITTING NEXT TO DAVID BECKHAM PLEASE

Sterling talking about racism seems to get all the lefty weirdo's knickers wet despite that fact he's a fucking mong and his comments are retarded.
John Barnes is the only one that seems to talk sense.

I too have seen django unchained.

t. browsed /pol/ for a few months and thinks he's a genius

D.Beck still styling on you

>outrun by a gook

you are racist though. virtually everyone is, including ethnic minorities themselves. it's called subconscious bias.

HAHAHA, I hope this comment was ironic! you have been thoroughly seen off at every turn. back to b with you, dumb racist.

Zaha's one of the most overrated players in Premier League history

yeah, plus theres something else I don't like about him. cant quite put my finger on it

care to make non-retard comments about that topic?

cant we just talk about football?

sonny is such a qt

would fuck him for sure

t. David Moyes

Son is better than Eden Hazard. Don't @ me.

I'd rather be a plastic than backing Liverpool for anything ever.

Why did Liverpool even by Shaqiri?

Not until he retires

Here's your (you)

One of these days Roy is going to sit in the dugout and just die in his seat.

Well I eat a nutritious, balanced and varied diet, live in a comfy leafy Home Counties suburb and am an absolute mong. Checkmate.

Plus, IQ is a load of meme shit.

Attached: fad.jpg (680x546, 31K)

Plays for a micky mouse international team instead of sitting tight for that England call up that might not come.

oh yeah let's talk about some of the midtable scraps remaining in the most exciting league in the wor-zzzzzzz
fuck off

Attached: rivals1.png (915x1303, 356K)

Decent backup. Who else could they get of that standard who'll play 20 minutes in half their matches?

the racists started it. scroll up, they tried to inject their unfounded race politics into the beautiful game. they had to be seen off, as they were, before we could have a proper discussion.

Albanian sponsor money.

demarai gray is the national league north jordon ibe

>higher income = better education, from which IQ derives entirely
based on what? the correlation? high iq parents are going to be able to get their kids a better education

twins separated at birth have similar iq. also, adopted kids and birth mother show more correlation than between adopted kids and adoptive mothers

Because he was 12 million and was Stoke's best player for years.

and no-one will notice until full time

no shit, idiot. dumb people don't eat well or have a high quality of life. nutrition only matters if it's malnutrition

Leaves make people stupid, look at farmers. You need some technology fumes up inside your head. I've got so many microparticles in my brain I'm basically a cyborg at this point.

IQ isn't meme shit, people think they understand it but they don't have a fucking clue. IQ is huge in psychology and a critical variable in vast areas of social statistical analysis.

N

I

My mum has an IQ of about 150.

P

neat

im 158 IQ but lazy, thats why i sit at home and masturbate all day long
but I am a genius really

I thought Basedoncu and Evans were better than Maguire

nah, it's late hours, what did you expect? high quality discussion?
eating a nice balanced meal is the best thing that could ever happen top you degenerate piece of shit lol
okay

stop trying, it's getting embarrassing. Yea Forums is a normie board, we'll have none of your daft neo nazism.

they are but they both had below average games

maguire is a mong and bad at football

Dammit, Söyoncu

We're still here Jamal.

Go read what Barnes says. Basically:
- Racism is a societal issue, not a footballing one. Punishing clubs is pointless as those throwing racist abuse around don't care.
- Focusing on verbal racist abuse at football matches ignores verbal abuse in general, of all kinds. Look at why people abuse football players to start with.
- Players like Sancho and Rose moaning about how being called names at football affects their love of the game isn't convincing. They're privileged enough to not experience the real societal and structural effects of racism that others do.

>IQ is a load of meme shit
is that why it correlates with average lifetime earnings?

I'm 160 according to the mensa academy game I bought on the xbox live marketplace a few years ago. All you have to do is pause it on the maths questions ;)

based and coompilled

Because they're below average players? Evans is literally surplus to United and he's better than Söyoncu

will Manchester utd win a trophy again

what's your IQ mate?

Oh dear. He fell for the IQ meme.

>eating a nice balanced meal is the best thing that could ever happen top you degenerate piece of shit lol
Try again in English.

city hate liverpool more than they hate united, yet city are only liverpool's third biggest rivals
what an embarrassing lot

evans is clearly better than shitters like jones and rojo

I just took a lot of IQ tests until I found one that gave me a high number. I dont even read the questions I just guess.

imagine your biggest rivals only putting you 3rd or 4th

High iq approach

An Mensa agent tried to test me once. l ate his liver with some fava beans and a lil bit of the bubbly

Jones literally benched Evans when he was fit. If Jones had the limited responsibilities Evans has now he'd do just as well, arguably better.

Can't wait for the women's football show lads

what difference does that make?

>tfw our biggest rivals have us as 1 but all the teams who we'd put as 2, 3, 4, 5 don't even have us in their top 5
Mixed feelings.

Hate this covering the mouth shit. What media training nonsense.

every successful person admits you need a bit of luck and to be awarded a 160 IQ purely by luck proves I am a really lucky guy, and also smart because I have high IQ.

Makes a difference if you'll be rich or poor so shouldnt you want to know asap?

OOH A LITTLE BIT OF THE BUBBLEH

just shows how plastic the club is that Liverpool is their biggest rival. god i hate city

city-liverpool is a meme rivalry that only city's new gloryhunters from outside the two cities care about
actual city fans hate united more than they love city

well it sounds like you watched a stefan molyneux video once so I was just wondering how high above 200 yours is

>tfw %100 IQ

Attached: 1524924606672.jpg (482x295, 26K)

Because they get bollocked in the press if they use naughty words. Don't blame them.

'ok'

i'm going to end this here, not much point arguing with a fat yank spastic about "soccer"

if news of the world was still around chris wilder would definitely be caught up in some kind of paul jewell-esque sting

if you do multiple IQ tests, you add the results together right?

WHOOOOOO CARES

>IQ is a load of meme shit

dumb cunt

no-one, that is why no-one is talking about football any more

It's fair enough. The media take the fucking piss with players so they're well within their rights to control how they're presented in the media.

>a lil bit of the bubbly
top meme

Good goal tbhqh

haha he's still watching. point and laugh

Take the average of them.

Maybe you're right, the tabloids are to blame for most things.

Did you do one of those online ones that said you were brainier than Einstein, bog-trotter?

>billy shart

I wanted to see Sheff Utd get refballed

>Fat
>Yank

Wrong, and You clearly can't say that Maguire is a worst player between Evans and Soioncu

ok but obviously I discount the ones where I got a low number because those were clearly rigged. if IQ tests were real I would get the same number every time

it's correlation. it doesn't mean every smart person is rich and every stupid person is poor

didn't people know iq correlates with earnings? don't they know that SATs in the US are proxy IQ tests and it's obviously smart people do better on them? I really would like to know if anyone who says iq tests don't matter thinks that a doctor or a lawyer or a Jeff Bezos or a professor etc have low IQs. isn't it all obvious?

Just look at how John Terry got fucked over.

>can't even recognise his own flag
>american education

l'm leaving bye lads

ur mum correlates with my dick

There are several legitimate reasons why the number result you get from an IQ test will be different. I really can't be arsed going into it all, too many cunts on this thread who know fuck all about IQ and think their opinion is worth a shit. Do some of your own research on it.

I'm worried my IQ is too low to research IQ so I need to find out my IQ first.

yeah well your dick correlates with my dick

This faggot that keeps saying correlation sounds like a right twat lads.

Night, mate.

Kinda gay mate

wow bit gay but ok

Brilliant logic, as displayed by your argument

>GOOGLE 'IQ BY COUNTRY'
>CHUCKLE @ NIGGERS

did I ruin the whole thread, lad? kek

bit gay that you two poofters had the exact same thought at the same time. can't you come up with independent thoughts?

>female commentator

Attached: 1526926941582.gif (300x264, 1.82M)

Did they forget to turn VAR on today? It's not been involved at all, has it?

Maybe do some research into the criticisms of IQ testing too, you arrogant paki.

what IQ is the average football fan? can't be much higher than 80. it's objectively a low IQ sport

They disallowed Sheff Utd's goal

Attached: 4g.jpg (1280x720, 69K)

why would IQ stop you? no-one is saying you should live your life by it. they're simply saying that it has some significance

I just did some research and apparently you can trick an IQ test by doing it over and over again until you get the right answer on every question. I'm going to do this until I have the biggest IQ in the world

about ten different 'faggots' but okay

You've finally figured it out then, mate; just lie. You can do anything with the power of lying and anything you can't do you can just say you can. Foolproof.

sounds like low IQ tricks to me lad. you won't poison me with your insidious ways. my mind correlates with genius while yours correlates with being stupid and gay

Smart thinking, lad. Can tell you're a proper brainiac and you don't even need to do an IQ test.

I know many of the criticisms, some are even legitimate to some extent, but none come even close to dismissing the utility of IQ in many applications.

>burnley score
>silence

>The Fappening was 5 years ago

Attached: Q5UAXpY.png (542x602, 43K)

dyche will be calling up brighton's chairman and spouting anti-gay jibes

ok i'm bored with shitposting in this thread now. my IQ is too high for this

I keep getting higher results from IQ tests because each time i do them i learn what they're actually asking for. so what IQ result should i take as my actual IQ?

The one who started it with
>correlation =/= causation
Know it all liberal student language.

well this means your IQ is getting higher because you are learning each test you take. your most recent IQ test is the correct value

Do an IQ test with your eyes closed. Proper mega minds do this.

Mensas phoenix test is considered the best. You have to pay to take it.

we all know the truth in this thread, that it actually DOES equal causation and I have to question the IQ of anyone who thinks otherwise

i'm too scared to do this, i don't know how i could live knowing i was a literal brainlet

My IQ is the same as Burnley's shot's on target percentage ;_;

I think we already established that i'm left wing, and therefore not a liberal. you never went to uni mate? must be fucking stupid

>paying to take an IQ test
is there anything more low IQ?

Don't know about you lads but that Romesh Ranganathan feller should be in more TV shows, he's really not getting the exposure he deserves.

>racism is a societal issue, not a footballing one
okay I actually agree with that
>Focusing on verbal racist abuse at football matches ignores verbal abuse in general, of all kinds
wait, what? if they focus on racist chants to, I guess, punish teams, how does it ignore verbal racial abuse in general?
>Look at why people abuse football players to start with
because they are black and fuck up 'their' team?
>Players like Sancho and Rose moaning about how being called names at football affects their love of the game isn't convincing. They're privileged enough to not experience the real societal and structural effects of racism that others do.
Tbh I'm happy that you actually tried to elaborate in a way that even a retard like me understands,but even if richkids don't really 'feel' the the societal and structural effect of racism it doesn't make their distaste for racism any less relevant.
If even someone as privileged as Rose or Sancho say that football fans have affected their love for football negatively it speaks enough volume top tell you that racism in football is a kinda serious issues, doesn't ie?

Do a chargeback with your CC company after completion.
High IQ move.

it is pretty smart-ass. to think you can just shrug at something because 'lol correlation and causation are two different things' is silly. it goes against a good amount of arguments that people normally make too

>wait, what? if they focus on racist chants to, I guess, punish teams, how does it ignore verbal racial abuse in general?
You misunderstood. It ignores all other abuse. Like how is calling someone a paedophile acceptable and why would you do it at a football match? Does this not have the same phycological effect on folk as say calling them a coon, or chanting monkey noises?

i love when iqlets get mad and try to delegitimise iq tests and out themselves as insecure about their intelligence and therefore the iqlets that they are

When I applied to medical school, you don't do IQ tests, you do aptitude tests. You're given a timed quiz on various things. The average for students was 500/500/400 or something like that. I got 560/580/360 or something. In total above average. Aptitude tests are a better measure of intelligence than IQ tests, because the latter can be trained for. My dad has an IQ of 160+, yet he isn't in Mensa or anything, he's just good at IQ tests.

Only pakis, poltards and insecure turds that go to shit-tier unis/ex-polys care about IQ.

IQ tests aren't just about measuring intelligence. Did you even read the post you were replying to? If your dad genuinely has a 160+ IQ he could get in Mensa, that's literally their one qualification for entry, a 98th percentile IQ. Just fuck off.

racism isn't being called mean names, it's being forced to have a lower quality of life due to the colour of your skin. which is reinforced by the mean names. that's why the mean names matter.

it was shown that, even if IQ is adequate to apply globally, it correlates exclusively with income and wealth, and not race.

Mensa is for elite networking and headhunting.

I was in Mensa for a few years, it's full of faggots. I don't recommend it.

>racism isn't being called mean names, it's being forced to have a lower quality of life due to the colour of your skin.
Which is Barnes' point.

>society of people who take IQ tests seriously is full of faggots
shocker

all the butthurt guys obviously care about them

also
>only x like y
is lame

Yes, he could get into Mensa (doubtful now, he's old) years ago but he didn't apply because IQ tests are largely irrelevant. The word 'intelligence' is just an all round word, again, aptitude tests challenge more than just spotting patterns or whatever (yes I know that isn't just what IQ tests are, stop taking everything i say literally to the extreme).

Finally, common sense and general knowledge is also incredibly important. You might be able to spot what square is wrong in a group of 8, but you don't know that blood is red when inside you (I use this example because I knew a guy with like 140IQ who thought that human blood was blue and only showed red when exposed to oxygen when you cut yourself). Again, high IQ is great for certain things but not for general all around 'intelligence' (this word, again, meaning stuff like general knowledge, problem solving etc).

Jesus, I'm so drunk that I actually quoted myself lol
Ooooh, I see. Sorry about that. Didn't really think that one through.
But still, that's retarded, isn't it?
Did anybody ever say "yeah, let's ignore every other dumb shit the fans are singing"?
I'm all for 'let's make fun of someone on the pitch' chants, but not if the chant boils down to 'he's black lol!'
But maybe I'm just too leftist.

>all the butthurt guys obviously care about them
You mean those desperately trying to convince people they aren't a boring dull autist by quoting their 160 IQ test result as if anyone genuinely cares?

Because it's more about exploring why people abuse football players altogether rather than simply boiling it down to why do people do monkey chants. Bobby Huth made a similar point a few weeks back. There's no line and no push back or condemnation against any abuse regardless of severity and so people will keep pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable.

IQ is standardised for age. IQ tests are not 'largely irrelevant'. I cant even be arsed reading everything you wrote after this because you're not reading what I write and you have no fucking clue what you're on about. Again, just fuck off.

>8 seconds

Seems you're the retard here tbf. I bet you're a paki or blackie.

Attached: 765376589790.jpg (1024x576, 280K)

kek

So any idea why people abuse football players? It can't just be jealousy, right? Then they'd be regularly abusing white players as well.
So, why do football-fans retort to abuse players?
As you said, exploring why they do monkey-chants is rather dumb,
>There's no line and no push back or condemnation against any abuse regardless of severity and so people will keep pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable
Yeah, that's true. But what kinda punishment would you implement? Everything I've heard so far boils down to 'penalize the team of which the fans are the loudest' which I think is kinda dumb
There's the obvious problem of people pretending to be the fan of their rival's team to get them fucked over and also the problem of pretty much everyone getting fucked over because of two or three dumbasses
But to be honest I don't really see any reasonably good solution to this kinda problem myself

I think most racist online abuse is just people who think it's funny and don't really give a fuck. Like if you could get them and probe them I doubt you'd find many genuine racists. They know what they say will get a reaction in the media so they just do it 'for the bantz' or whatever.

>incredibly important
To what? To being 'intelligent' or to being a chess-master, mathematician, lawyer etc. Probably the latter set is what people arguing IQ is important are talking about.

>he didn't apply because IQ tests are largely irrelevant
Irrelevant in the sense that he didn't need to know it to do well or irrelevant in the sense that it has no effect on him doing well? Usain Bolt probably doesn't need to know the precise genes he has which made him fast but having those genes are relevant to him being fast.

So basically like people on here fishing for (you)s like its /pol/ lol?

>Then they'd be regularly abusing white players as well.
They do.

Yeah I guess so.
But they're not calling white players 'crackers' or some shit. They're just calling them tossers or whatever.

tossers is the n word for white people. don't you dare marginalise people of toss

You think there's no white people in football being abused for their ethnic identity? How do you explain Scotland, or abuse Germans get in England, etc?

>tfw everybody already forgot about Mkhitaryan not being able to attend the Europa League final

Imagine choking her...

>even if IQ is adequate to apply globally, it correlates exclusively with income and wealth, and not race.
Absolute lie.
IQ is 80% genetic at birth.