/gaa/ All-Ireland football final #1

Liam McCarthy Cup was in town the other day.

Looks like pure shit IRL. I actually thought it was a fake made of plastic when I first saw it. Don't know how they make it look so good on telly.

Please don't upset my Queen like that

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She looks like my little cousin that has autism.

LETS FUCKIJG GO

>being a jackeen
I hope you're aware that this isn't soccer?

More importantly than this shite, Liverpool are actually going to win the league.

To compound matters, you were looking at one of multiple copies. The original is in the Croke Park museum.

*buys your ferry ticket*

Cute!

Fuck I hope the dub lose. Fucking wankers

It's coming home, lads.

>posting about s*ccer in a GAA thread

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Your cousin is Chris-chan?

Bitter Mayo diaspora detected.

I don't want to win a close game. I want to smash the bogger hoops off these Kerry wankers. Dublin by 12

Logically, anal sex has to release copious amounts of harmful methane gas but you'll never see this spoiled brat go after those degenerates. It's all for show.

>Mayo
Don't insult me

Based Leaf. Nobody outside of the Pale wants Dublin to win. Seeing west brits dominate one of our national sports for 4 years in a row is depressing enough as it is. Not only that, but they've managed to ruin the game by effectively turning it into defensive basketball, all while their fans act like they are at a soccer game. At least Kerry played some lovely attaching football in the first game. Hopefully they replicate that today and show the Dubs how football is meant to be played.

>attaching
*attacking

That's not something we can help though, unless we decrease the population. That would be actually be a good thing though

Those Kerrymen are good lads now. I'd often see them out in the fields, helping out with the work. They're good to their families and their communities and they have my support. Them Dublin lads though haven't a field other than Croke Park, they know nothing of hard work like so I have confidence in the good men of Kerry.

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>handpass bad

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Nothing wrong with the handpass if (a) you don't use it as your primary method of getting the ball around the field, and (b) you actually do the handpass correctly.

>Giving pity frees to Kerry to try and get a 3rd replay
Come on now.

Have to balance out the fact that Dublin are playing on their home turf in from of a home crowd.

>you don't use it as your primary method of getting the ball around the field
But it's the most effective way of doing so. Athletes are so supposed to all that they can to win. If you don't want them to use their hands then watch soccer

>Based Leaf
Ah here now, we'll be having none of that

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>But it's the most effective way of doing so
It isn't how the game was traditionally played. The game has undeniably evolved, but its evolutionary path makes for a boring style of play. Long range kicking and short range kicked passes have almost disappeared from the modern game.

It's over bros.

Funny, I just counted three short kick passes from Dublin in the past thirty seconds.

You can't change the rules without changing the game. Hand pass is more effective, faster and accurate.

Dubs ruin everything. I give it about 20 years until they've ruined hurling too. Slowly handpassing the sliotar up the pitch until they can throw it into the net. They will then lobby for the removal of the hurley from the game was it's "unnecessary" for the modern game.

So hurling becomes olympic handball?

That was bad timing for my post. An untypical passage of play based on having watched most of the Dublin games this season.

>Hand pass is more effective, faster and accurate.
I'm not denying that at all. My point is that it makes for a more boring game to watch.

>Dubs ruin everything
This

They've already sold the country out. I barely saw a white face on Grafton street last Christmas.

Don't act as if Kerry is much better. Tralee and Killarney are as "diverse" as Dublin; and without the saving graces of capital tourism or universities to use as an excuse.

So they should handicap themselves because muh tradition? How do you decide what era of the game should be replicated, is it just arbitrary? They game has evolved and the meta is being constantly finetuned. It was only a matter of time before they discovered that people have better hand-eye coordination than feet-eye. Personally, I like Dublin's style of play anyway so I'm not complaining

>Tralee
Is the aquadom still there? I spent many happy summers in Tralee as a child

Essentially, yes.

>Tralee and Killarney are as "diverse" as Dublin

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Lol no they aren't. Not even close.

/up de dubs/

>Tralee and Killarney are as "diverse" as Dublin
Don't tell lies, user.

Don't tell me what to do.

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Its that liverpool kind of feel, lad

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Also Tralee and Killarney are two of the biggest tourist hotspots in the country. So you clearly know nothing about what you're saying.

>So they should handicap themselves because muh tradition?
Not saying that at all. All I'm saying is that Dublin's style of play is incredibly boring to watch and I consider the focus on handpassing and blanket defense to be a negative evolutionary path for the game. Kerry's attacking style was far more entertaining during the last match. Not only that, but it appeared to be a decent counter against Dublin. Only in the last 10 minutes when Kerry started playing more conservatively (when they went a point up) did the game turn against them.

Everybody in my neighborhood is wearing Kerry shirts. Where are the Dublin shirts? Genuine question from someone unfamiliar with the sport.

>So they should handicap themselves because muh tradition?
>Dub hates tradition
No surprises there.

Yes, but it was looking a bit run down last time I passed it.

>This ref

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>long kicking is good to watch

Its fucking shite

Nice few points from Kerry there. They're playing with scraps though.

>Everybody in my neighborhood is wearing Kerry shirts
Where are you?

>Dubs lazily passing the ball backwards down the pitch
>based Kerryman intercepts and goes on the attack

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You'll usually spot Dubliners because they wear English soccer shirts, the traitors

Woodlawn, the Bronx, New York, United States

>Everybody in my neighborhood is wearing Kerry shirts.
Do they look like Irish students? I can't imagine this being popular among Americans

I'm not from Dublin and I want Kerry to win this for the narrative. I'm just saying that Dublin play a nice style

>Woodlawn, the Bronx, New York, United States
Ah yes, otherwise known as "Little Kerry"

>They're playing with scraps though.
1 pt difference playing with scraps? Dublin better get their shit together then

SAY THE LINE, DUBLIN!

Dublin used to, theyve become very robotic

When I said it they were. They've really come into the game in the last 5 minutes.

They're Irish people. From Ireland. I live in an Irish neighborhood.

idk if this is sarcasm. I've never heard this. I didn't think any counties were disproportionately represented here.

>watching an All-Ireland Football Final where Kerry are the underdogs
What a bizarre timeline we've entered.

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They haven't been favourites for a final in almost 10 years

Fucking Dub scumbags, black card the cunt off

Looked it on Google streetview desu. How is the Hideout Tavern? :3

What the fuck was that bullshit

The Rambling House has Irish flags outside it

I've only driven past it. It looks dingy. Off the main drag. Not much foot traffic.

Rory Dolan's is probably the most famous followed by Rambling House and then maybe Behan's

>Rory Dolan's is probably the most famous followed by Rambling House and then maybe Behan's
Christ, that really does sound like an Irish neighbourhood.

>level at half time
Was not expecting that.

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Looks comfy enough desu. I always imagined NYC was shit for the average person since they would be forced to live in a Taxi Driver-tier apartment surrounded by non-whites out to get them but it almost looks like somewhere you would find here

The GAA needs the money from another replay.

Sick of these fucking cunts whinging and whining every game about the referee. For fuck sake it's getting ridiculous. It feels like every game now there someone crying because of a close decision. Let the referee ref the fucking game.

Have you been waving it in the British expats faces like Dara O'Briain.

youtube.com/watch?v=b5kD3B2cYIE

Is he your dad? Hes fucking shit

>eir forcing a negro into their GAA ad

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I live with a Bong, he's gearing up to get one. Also there is a Loyalist in work, and he's already got one too. Remind him everytime I see him.

So glad that 1.4% of the population didn't feel left out.

Doing alright.

What were you expecting?

>What were you expecting?
I was fearing the worst and expected Dublin to be at least 3 points ahead at half time.

Fuck the dubs

I mean, like I said, it's an Irish neighborhood. The grocery stores sell the brands you'd find in Ireland, the people are the people you'd find in Ireland, the bars show the sporting events you'd watch in Ireland, etc. This is how America has traditionally worked. Ethnic neighborhoods.

>Remind him everytime I see him.
You legend.

COME ON KERRY

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Fuck dublin

>Pat Spillane praising Kerry's kick passing
Based.

I thought Irish neighbourhoods had been replaced by Irish American neighbourhoods?

Fuck, might be a time for a pint

If Kerry win, we're all going for pints, lads.

Joanne dressed like a back-up singer for a 1970s motown band

Great first half. Kerry really embarrassing the doubters

I think she looked better for the first game. Her hair was definitely nicer before. But that aside, I'm warming to her as a presenter as time goes on.

Would love to see her BLACKED desu

>no Brolly
What's the point?

t. Dub

Get two. I'll have one.
youtube.com/watch?v=eXf93CEI4t0

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i think she looks nice

More likely a Waterford man, they have the biggest percentage of Scandi DNA.

Keyword there was "traditionally." There's not as much Irish immigration here anymore (for a few obvious reasons) so most of the first generation Irish immigrant communities have gradually become "Irish-American" but Woodlawn still has a ton of fresh off the boat imports.

>you will never sniff Rachel's sweaty leather trousers

jdimsa

Somebody clearly told Pat Spillane to calm down after the last day.

>but Woodlawn still has a ton of fresh off the boat imports.
Any particular reason for that?

Where has the highest amount of Finnish DNA?

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Cavan

Finland.

>ten seconds in

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how many times is that this year dublin have come out just after half time and got a goal or 3 to 4 points unanswered

such a class side

Tfw never played a full game of GAA in my life

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Fuck sake. Time to get out the Rosary beads, lads. Who wants to lead?

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what the fuck kerry

lol how many steps did he take

>close my eyes
>listen to the crowd
>chanting sounds exactly like something from an English soccer game
Not necessarily having a go at Dublin here, but this is a really strange phenomenon. I've never heard it from the fans of any other county.

Imagine not being a Kerry fan. Couldn't be me.

Fuck it, 2pm pints and then a nap it is

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It's like a feedback loop I guess. Irish people move here because there are more Irish people here because more Irish people move here etc. etc.

The later generations (i.e. the Irish-Americans) have moved out to the suburbs (e.g. Pearl River) just like any other second generation population which can afford to.

Seems to be a lot of loyalists in Canada, it's weird. I suppose they like that they can still fawn over the Queen there.

>why yes, I support Dublin because they always win, how could you tell?

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What are we eating during this tea time match, lads?

Having a chicken salad sandwich and a big pot of tea myself.

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Not bad looking for a foreign pint.

> not drinking

Can't. Have to drive later tonight.

It's flat already. All the imports are shits

>that perfect catch amounted to nothing

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Kerry are backtracking too much on the attack in the last few minutes. Take your points, lads!

>that cloth residue on the inside of the glass

Drives me fucking insane.

It's actually on the inside of the glass

Are the Dub fans singing a soccer chant? It sounds familiar.

you didnt just hear the kerry fans booing like soccer fans when teams hold possession?

>Dublin getting stick for playing Dubball.
Well deserved.

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I don't think that's kerry fans, I think that's just anyone with a passing interest in watching football actually being played.

I'm talking specifically about the chanting. Booing is more common at GAA games than people like to admit.

IN THE FUCKING FACE

Yes that what I was saying. Clean it with a soapy sponge, rinse it and leave it to dry. Dont wipe the inside of a glass with a cloth, it leaves that residue and probably why its gone dead already.

If Gavin was called Gaviola everybody would suck his dick for holding the ball

Fuck sake, how do you miss a chance like that?

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I took it straight from the dishwasher and poured.

>its another kerry miss loads of goal chances episode

GAA fans aren't inbred brits.

>RTÉ Player stream is shitting itself again
No wonder they're in massive financial trouble when they can't even design a decent streaming service after 2-3 attempts.

>Kerry niqqas be like "dis goal too spicy"

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Did the goalie catch it with his face? Sure looked like it

theres a weird misconception on here, not surprising really, that dublin are a side that holds the ball more than others
they can certainly do it now though since they have the cushion

Cluxton only uses his arms and legs when the situation requires it. As much as I hate Dublin, I have massive respect for Cluxton as a goalie.

They do, they got booed off the pitch again Donegal last year for doing it

Give Kerry your energy, goal in the 65th minute!
\o/ \o/ \o/

Pizza, chocolate and milk.

Wont be long now until Kilkenny sets up station in the midfield/half back line and starts doing his meme handpassing to run the clock down

\o/

Any minute now.

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they dont
they build scores more efficiently than other teams, theyre nothing like some of the northern sides

Dublin football is just Tyrone football executed more efficiently.

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Why did they get booed off the pitch then?

with 3 times the population to choose players from

Meant for

10 times

Kerry fans on their way to the match today XD

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There we go kilkenny has gone back into position now and started his handpassing

>Moustache O'Sullivan

Based

clueless
dunno, maybe donegal fans are just like soccer fans
where was the criticism of kerry when they went possession based for 10 minutes after going a point up last week?

dublin have the cushion and theyve still been attacking and building scores

She's great, love her work

Surprised a Dub even knows what a tractor is.

>"Look a' dat bus, Deano. Only da driver on it doh. No ppl ta rob"

>Kerry diving
Exactly what the sport needs.

The Dublin fans were booing, I was in the hill

Kerry got heavily criticised for doing it btw, it cost them the game

didnt see any on here which was my point in the first place
look at dublin now even after playing against this very organised kerry defence for most of the game, still attacking

we're on the road again
they've paid the ref again

you'd best be looking at lists of actual registered players and not total population, and even if Dublin has higher number of registered players so what it's great the game is strong.

It's ogre.

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>won't be able to watch or read any news for the next week without listening to the Dub media fawn over Dublin
Local radio it is then.

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fake and gay

Dublin has 5 (five) times the population of Connacht.

5

>and even if Dublin has higher number of registered players so what it's great the game is strong.
>the unwavering dominance of the most populous and well-funded county is a good thing for the sport

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Hahahahaahhahahahahahahahahaahgaagagagaghagahahahahshshshhaahhaahhs, seethe you Kerry fags Dublin is the best county to play football ever. Seethe.

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who bundoran here

Nice pic of a Dub.

>the game is strong

Leinster is dead and buried, the only championship that isnt predictable is Connacht, Dublin winning the All Ireland is pretty much a foregone conclusion every year

no it doesnt

5 IN A ROW!
5 IN A ROW!
5 IN A ROW!
5 IN A ROW!
5 IN A ROW!

how is the game strong if Dublin dominates year after year and smaller counties get little to no funding or sponsorship?

just fuck off and keep your shite opinions to yourself you worthless dub

S E E T H E sheepfucker

Nah, the skin is too white.

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seething culchies

Football is over, lads. Invest in Hurling. Laois and Carlow stocks have the potential for huge gains in the coming years.

>Jason Chinklock
Says everything that needs to be said about Dublin

lol at Kerry

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
IT'S /o/'s YEAR BABY
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I've been doing my best to spread hurling in America, they are fascinated by it when I show clips

based and dublinpilled

Fucking everyone is out driving their cars around beeping their horn here lmao

thanks for the ruining the sport you shitskinned retard

FUCK OFF YOU DUBLIN NIGGERS

JUST GO PARTY WHOOOHOOOO

Gaelic football is just not a very good sport due to rules being extremely exploitable and the governing body being glacially slow at implementing changes to the game, and the way teams are divided up prevents any level of parity ever being likely or achievable.

The real problem isn't Dublin dominance but the fact that upwards of 90% of games are near unwatchable anyway. The gap between Dublin and the rest of division 1 it's bad, but the gap between division 1 regulars and teams lower down in division 2 is ridiculous.

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Did you enjoy the soccer game, Jackeen?

Based. It helps that hurling has been going through a bit of a golden age lately.

Get good, loser

Right cunts, see you all for the rugby soon. I'm out

This. The football has been ruined by jackeen greed.

Why werent they watching the game

How is hurling getting it so right lately though? They're both governed by the GAA and both sports saw massive changes to the structure of their respective championships in recent years.

Ooooooh nooooo my poor farmer legs can’t keep up with the city lads, GAA you suck WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Give us some of that Dublin money and we'll try.

This is the sort of response I'd expect in a soccer thread. Dubs really showing their true colours. Not an ounce of respectability or love for the game.

Like clockwork.

And the crowd goes mild

I expect attendances at football games to be way down next year while hurling continues to draw record crowds.

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I think they got in their cars as soon as the match ended. I'm north county, we're hardcore

Because they don't. They'll act like they always did with this result.

>football attendance on its are
>hurling at record levels
>football still has more

kek death to all hurling shitters

Dublin just won 5 in a row, you're after witnessing history, and you're first response is nerf Dublin. LMAO

>I'm north county, we're hardcore
*knackers

>first reaction after the game is to jump in the car and start beeping

Dubs are a strange breed

Hurling is an objectively better game.

I've been calling for Dublin to be nerfed for the past 2 years. This dominance isn't going to end while they have such a massive population and financial advantage.

umm, we prefer skanger so as not to confuse ourselves with the local travellers community

we're witnessing the decline of an ancient sport due to inequality in funding, sponsorship and straight up massive differences in population

you're the kind of mongoloid who defends arab oil money teams like man city dominating the EPL

you don't care about the health of the sport, you only care about dublin winning so congratulations it'll continue to go down the shitter and you'll keep winning all-irelands

>I'm north county, we're hardcore
You put the heroin into your eye instead of your arm?

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>objectively better
>only dominant in 3 counties

kek

>only dominant in 3 counties
>Kilkenny, Cork, Tipperary, Limerick, Clare, Waterford, Wexford
And those are only the clear-cut counties. Do they not teach counting in Dublin schools?

Only 3 of those are dominant, the rest are dual

>dublin walk through leinster every year and are starting to do the same in the all-ireland, and that's a GOOD thing
It's getting to the stage where in the future, Dublin's wins will need an asterisk beside them.

>implying country retards who enjoy fucking hurling deserve to be counted
Hurling is retarded and just because you can’t fucking win doesn’t mean you should dribble all over you’re GAA jersey and cry when you lose like the knuckledragger you are.

Which ones are dual rather than hurling dominant? Both sports may be played at a high level in those counties (except Kilkenny), but I only listed ones where hurling is the dominant sport.

Dublin has been the largest county since forever, and it's literally only been dominant and winning, and only in football not hurling, the past 5 years. Other counties need to up their game and stop it with the complaints.
I hear that Dubs are all west brit jackeens and we don't into anything but soccer, and then I hear that we're literally winning the football because of unfairness.
I look outside my house and see my neighbours have Dublin flags up for the finals and there's probably at least 60 out of the 80k at the game today wearing Dublin shirts which they might've robbed from the shops.
I suppose it's because we're all plastics or some other shite.

Tipp Kilkenny and Waterford are hurling dominant, the rest are dual

is there a group of people more intolerable than those who have some sort of vague technical family ties to dublin claiming they're massive dublin fans and love the sport only when the all ireland final comes around.

>Hurling is retarded
Stopped reading there.

>it's literally only been dominant and winning, and only in football not hurling, the past 5 years.
wonder if the newfound funding and sponsorship has anything to do with it

nah couldn't be must just be everybody else not trying hard enough

>Dublin has been the largest county since forever, and it's literally only been dominant and winning, and only in football not hurling, the past 5 years
Due to a huge boost of funding since the Bertie Ahern era.

>I suppose it's because we're all plastics or some other shite.
Pretty much. Dub fans literally act and sound like soccer fans.

>only started dominating when the GAA pumped in millions in funding

Imagine my shock

the children of Dubs that've been raised in other counties have absolutely no right to support Dublin. It annoys me seeing babies born in Kildare and Meath being dressed in Dublin jumpsuits.

>Meath and Kildare
>not in Dublin

Kerry here. May actually kill myself.

send your complaints to the gaa, I'm busy bathing in your delicious salty tears

>counts Tipp as hurling dominant but doesn't count Limerick or Wexford
Shows how much you know.

Dubs moving to other counties yet acting like they still live in Dublin is a more annoying phenomenon than the mass emigration from other counties to Dublin.

You left the game behind you the last day. Never give Dublin a second chance.

so you admit we're right

well done smoothbrain

celebrate by bathing in the river liffey with your fellow dubs

>Meath and Kildare
You mean Dublin West and Dublin South West?

As I don't play on the team I've fuck all to be ashamed of

Limerick is rugby dominant desu

Limerick and Wexford have as many football clubs as hurlin

Your county let the Irish people down today.

But their hurling teams are more successful at a club and county level.

Yeah because most of the country doesnt play hurling, they're dual counties

That's flawed logic.

I know we did, lad. I'm fucking dejected. Going to drink myself into a stupor to numb the pain.

if it helps, at least people from your county are tolerable people

No it isnt idiot, how the fuck is a county hurling dominant when as many people play football

Sound bud. But compared to jackeens anyone is tolerable lmao.

Accidentally. Hurling isn't as perfect as it's made out to be, but it's just an inherently better game. It's a telling failure on the GAA's part that hurling has failed to expand beyond its traditional strongholds but the sport is better for a number of key reasons.

>1: it's designed for the field it's played on
Hurling is the true GAA sport. It's the reason the sport exists. The size of the pitch and the scoring system is designed for the game of hurling, where the point of action changes in an instant. Football would be better suited to a smaller pitch but this can't happen because it's tethered so closely to hurling. Scores from long range are far more achievable in hurling. Working a ball in for a goal is far easier in hurling. In football, the level of work required warrants more than 3 points.

>2: skill level
Football is a made up sport, designed to help spread the GAA in areas that did not traditionally play hurling and therefore lacked the skill to compete. That's not to say footballers have no skill, but its legacy as a game designed for the skill-less is plain to see. Hurling is near impossible to excel at unless you've played since you were a child. A top level track and field athlete given a year to work on hand-passing, soloing and his core strength would walk on to most intercounty football teams the way the game is played now. It wasn't always like this. In the 90s and early 2000s, teams like Galway and Kerry played wonderful football. Watch the movie A Year 'Til Sunday and you'll be astonished how good the football is. In the modern game however, athleticism is more important. An absurd number of intercounty players cannot pull off a medium range kick pass, a skill which should be the equivalent of pucking the ball in hurling. Since pro-level conditioning has come into the GAA, skill level in hurling has increased year-on-year, while football has gone the opposite way. To put it simply though, football very rarely makes you say "wow"

Crazy how for a bunch of soccer playing Jackeens we've produced the most dominant team ever? Nothing funnier than culchies devoting their lives to the sport and being absolutely shite at it

Brilliant post. Almost reads like an excerpt from a book or news article. Good stuff, user.

Celebrating tonight, lads

The death of football?

Its utter shite lad, go watch the kerry 4 in a row team in the early 80s, the games were near unwatchable

must be nice to get paid to play an "amateur" sport

us culchies have to commute to train and get no financial help or support from the GAA

>culchies demanding that the gaa implement a salary cap

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The problem is Kerry trying to win by playing "puke" football.

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Kerry do play nice football now, against Tyrone they were good fun to watch

Yes

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of course you're a fucking weaboo pedo

Bigger population

Seethe harder

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Breed more and stop moving to Dublin

maybe if the government put money into other areas instead of Dublin. Everyone just thinks of us as one city and a few towns. it's embarrassing.

Cont.

>3: favoritism (or lack thereof)
The favourite refrain of the Dublin fan looking to deflect criticism is to point out Kilkenny. "They won 4-in-a-row and no one thought they should be split in two, lol." Kilkenny however, didn't receive the bulk of development money for hurling, didn't play all their important games at home and didn't receive a free stadium while the GAA were making other teams upgrade their own at large expense. Make no mistake, the GAA wants to do the same thing with Dublin hurling they have in football so they can milk Dublin for all it's worth. However, hurling's high skill level provides a far greater bulwark against this than in football.

>4: intensity
That hurling is a far more physically intense game than football is not surprising. Add heavy wooden clubs to any sport and it will get a bit tougher. Football, on the other hand, lacks even a clear tackle. No one seems to know what constitutes a foul, so instead they awkwardly shepard their man around the place. It's bloodless and boring. Hurling has full-on shoulders, hooking, blocking and the clash of the ash.

>5: more contenders
Despite being historically divided between "the big three," hurling still throws up far better match-ups. Even in the era of Kilkenny dominance, they had to fight for every game. They had to dethrone a top class Cork side first, Galway were always a thorn in their side, Limerick and Waterford kept coming up just short against them and their games against Tipp were always epic. Last year, Dublin won Sam without ever looking like losing a game, except a meaningless """"Super"""" 8 clash with Tyrone. Every year, Kerry walk through Munster, Leinster is a contest of who gets to lose the final to Dublin, and while Connacht is competitive, it's hard to see any of them make an All-Ireland final anytime soon. Compare this to the round-robin hurling games, which have become essential viewing over the last two years.

TL;DR: Football shit, hurling good.

weird to see a guy who was bullied by football players in school posting in this thread

mate, I used to bully the football players in school

Are you a hurler? If so, that makes sense.

Don't forget; Gaelic football is anti-rugby as in matter versus anti-matter.

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and yet you ended up pulling yourself to cartoons. funny how life is.

It may be anti-rugby (or not), but it is certainly the anti-hurling in it's refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement.

When's the book coming out?

Did Kerry just turn up to lose? I don't believe that they made an honest effort to win that game.

HAHHAHAA SEEEETHING KEREEEEEE FANS HAHHAHAHAH GET FUCKED DUMB BOGGER CUNTS.

BACK IN YOUR FUCKING COACHES WITH YOUR HAM SAMBOS...SURE ITS GRAND CRAIC AND THAT YOU MIGHT GST BACK FIR SU DAY MASS AHHH YA PURE BANTER AIN'T YA HAHHAHAHAHSH KEREEEEEE GET FUCKED LEAVE THE CITY NOW YOU LAPRING FAGD

>the eternal dub

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Have FIVE!

People from the country emigrate because theres no jobs in the countryside

Based schizoposter

SEETHING NORTHERN FAGGOT. HE'S CONSTANTLY SEETHING

Even ignoring the All-Ireland, splitting Dublin into two would make the Leinster Football championship less of a fucking joke.

Googled it there. Look comfy.

>Dublin v Dublin final every year

Which is the Dublin-based government's fault.

FUCK OFF YOU JACKEEN BASTARD ARRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Maybe Dublin would split into twin cities north and south of the Liffey and they could spend their time hating each other instead of ruining everything good and Irish in the country?

If they're going to bother splitting Dublin, it should be in four: the three county council areas and Dublin city. Anything less is a temporary measure. It puts the population of these teams roughly in line with other counties and Dublin could have its own provincial championship. Dublin should realistically be treated as a province rather than a county. Railway Cup should be brought back and expanded so Dubs can still have their old team in a meaningful competition. Railway Cup used to be kino. Gives quality players from smaller counties a place to shine.

you lads still complaining about dublin jesus

Every county should be split up until all the gaa county sides represent the same population as Leitrim, nigga

It's not all about Dublin. General state of the game too. Mayo-Donegal, Kerry-Tyrone, the drawn game and the first half of today were the only genuinely interesting games all year in a tournament with nearly 70 matches. The sport is in the shitter.

Well, in cases like Leitrim, I would argue there's a genuine case they should be amalgamated with Sligo and Roscommon, and other counties should follow suit, so you'd have more competitive teams. Having one of your 32 teams have 1/5 of the population is a uniquely ridiculous situation no matter the deflection Dubs attempt to come up with.

population doesnt matter in sport

no idea why people constantly bring it up as if it's some assertion of fact
even a minor investigation would prove it yet people dont even do that they just assume

You know that it's all amateur? I'm not from Leitrim myself but I'd imagine that the lads over there consider it a great honour to represent their county.
At the end of the day all this population talk just doesn't wash with me, it's a squad vs a squad, the numbers are equal.
Dublin have their system in place with football and so does Kerry, and Mayo, and Tyrone, and Donegal, and a couple other counties.
I'm certain that if any county needed funding to improve their infrastructure that the gaa will listen to them and they'll get a fair hearing.
What I'm getting at the moment is that Dublin have produced the GOAT generation football side and some folk are being bad sports about it, it's not even as though the Dubs are easily winning every match against the top counties, there was a draw two weeks ago.

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>I'd imagine that the lads over there consider it a great honour
Used to be the way. As it's gotten more professional and rural jobs have disappeared it's changed. Leitrim lose upwards of half their team every season, because guys haven't got time to commit. They might love Leitrim but they can't live there. Probably have to go to Galway or Dublin for work. Are they suposed to commute to training four times a week to get whupped twice in the Chamionship? If you're going to put in the time that's required nowadays to play inter-county, you need to actually have some hope of achieving something.

>I'm certain that if any county needed funding to improve their infrastructure that the gaa will listen to them and they'll get a fair hearing
You have no idea what you're talking about.
independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/ewan-mackenna-how-obscenely-good-dublin-gaa-have-it-is-best-highlighted-by-how-disgracefully-bad-some-others-have-it-37771428.html

GAA's actions and interventions are actively making it harder for counties to compete with Dublin and they keep giving Dublin more money PER PLAYER than everyone else even though they have the highest playing population. GAA are chasing diminishing returns because all they see are Dublin gate receipts and they're going to crash the sport into the ground doing it.
punditarena.com/features/emackenna/mackenna-on-monday-all-we-wanted-was-fairness-but-even-that-seems-too-much/

go on then show us your minor investigation or could it be you're talking out your arse because you're wrong

Excellent post. Keep fighting the good fight, user.

the simple fact that dublin never came close to winning 5 in a row despite always having the population and always being a very strong football side should be obvious enough
or that cork has more registered players which is a much more significant factor yet haven't won an all ireland in 9 and 15 years

its just simply obvious population doesnt matter and it can be extended to every other sport if i was arsed
so now then, go on you prove population matters, go on and do it i'll be waiting

like i said it's only ever asserted as some sort of axiom and no one ever bothers to back it up

Yeah Leitrim should just train more lmao

im not talking about leitrim at all
ive never mentioned them once

But by your logic Leitrim can be as good as Dublin if they just train harder.

Somebody should really tell them.

ive never mentioned training in any shape or form either so i dont know what youre talking about
maybe youve confused me with someone else

it didn't matter until sponsorship and funding came into the game

now people see it as a viable career rather than a mere amateur sport which is what it is in every other county in the country

poor dubs played soccer because they seen it as an avenue out of poverty
now they're doing the same with gaelic

gaelic has become povertyball 2.0 and dublin's team will be 90% foreigners within a decade

Well if population doesnt matter why dont Leitrim just train harder lmao

>But by your logic Leitrim can be as good as Dublin if they just train harder.
Not him but yeah. Gaelic has fuck all skill, it boils down to fitness really. Dublin are clearly in much better shape, other teams should prioritise that in training over skill-based drills

There is a massive correlation both in hurling and football between the number of senior clubs in a county and the quality of the county team. The more players to pick from, the better the team. The sport has historically always been behind football and rugby in Dublin, while everyone else played pretty much nothing but GAA sports due to the ban. Before Heffernan's time, Dublin teams tended to be made up of country lads living in Dublin a la New York or London nowadays. Dublin's massive population was offset by a comparatively smaller interest in the sport.

However, things have changed massively since the year 2000. The GAA worried it was losing ground in the capital completely and would lose out on sweet, sweet Jackeen cash, so in concert with Bertie's govt. implemented a long term development strategy to put Dublin back at the top of the sport. Dublin now have the highest playing population and a largely professional under-age coaching structure giving their 10 year-olds coaching on the level other counties give their minors. It's a conveyor belt of talent. Even though the job is complete and Dublin are now dominant the GAA refuses to dismantle this operation and Dublin continue to be given the highest amount of games development funding per head by some distance. Such a program has never been proposed for Antrim hurling, or in Offaly, a former dual county which has fallen apart in the last 20 years, because they don't have the population to bring in the big bucks.

Given the massive cost of running an intercounty team, sponsorship matters. AIG pump Dublin full of money because that gives them 1.35m eyeballs. Leitrim almost had to without a sponsor a few years ago, and essentially beg a local hotel for a pittance every year. Galway footballers couldn't find a sponsor a few years ago and decided to put a charity's logo on there instead, and eventually Pat "Supermac" McDonagh took them on alongside the hurlers out of pity.

dublin are the best trained side in the country and thats not fitness

you dont score 12 points in 12 minutes just because of ridiculous levels of development funds or population

Quads of sort-of-truth. Gaelic football is a reductive and skill-less sport. It's essentially an athletic competition at this point. Skill can carry you a certain distance, but if you took the top 12 athletes in the world, gave them a year to train at handpassing, soloing and tactics, put them in with two decent forwards and a good goalkeeper they'd walk into the semi-finals.

The problem is, Dublin have the scouting apparatus in the county to find the best athletes at a young age and turn them towards GAA. McCaffrey, McCarthy and others were cross country runners. Other counties don't have the resources to do this because GAA don't pump money into their under-age coaching structures. When you get players on high level training programs at a young age, it has a massive influence on their development.
the42.ie/dave-fagan-liam-hennessy-player-pathway-4798279-Sep2019/

Dublin also have another key advantage over other counties. All their players live in Dublin. They all train in one place all the time. Mayo, for example, have had to split their squad in two, a Dublin group and a Mayo group and meet halfway for training sessions at times. Dublin are, in effect, a professional set up in an amateur competition.

>or in Offaly, a former dual county which has fallen apart in the last 20 years, because they don't have the population to bring in the big bucks.
Offaly declined due to the county board mismanaging them and not having a proper youth development plan in place until recently and no Offaly hurling man will tell you any different.
Though, with Dublin receiving all that money, I'd like to have seen what Offaly or some other counties could have done with a bit of it.

>There is a massive correlation both in hurling and football between the number of senior clubs in a county and the quality of the county team.
So why are Cork so shit then in comparison to teams who have either won or played in AI hurling finals since they last won it then? Obviously it's not population when they have 4 times the registered players of Kilkenny and twice the number of senior hurling clubs.

>you dont score 12 points in 12 minutes just because of ridiculous levels of development funds
Proofs?

>So why are Cork so shit then in comparison to teams who have either won or played in AI hurling finals since they last won it then?
Deep-rooted cultural and organisational problems from a county board level right down to a club level. Many Cork hurling fans in particular will point to the two players' strikes in the 00's as being the crux of the issues that persist today.

>Offaly declined due to the county board mismanaging them and not having a proper youth development plan in place until recently
That's my point. When that happened in Dublin, the GAA stepped in to save them and created Frankenstein's monster. The debate is whether population is an advantage to Dublin. My argument is that if it wasn't for their population and the commercial opportunity that it represents, then Dublin would've been left flat on their ass like Offaly have been.

>why are Cork so shit then
They've won the Munster title repeatedly in recent years, and if it wasn't for a red card they'd have made the final in 2017 and they took Limerick to extra time. This is in spite of comical level of mismanagement by the county board and years of horrendous youth development. In spite of being terribly run, Cork's playing population allows them to maintain consistent status as a knockout team in the All-Ireland.

If anything Cork are proof of the value of high playing numbers. If any smaller hurling county were as badly run as them, they'd have disappeared off the scene completely. If only there was an obvious example of that happening, hmmm, I wonder...

Can I just say how enjoyable it is teaming up with you guys to BTFO this Jackeen's paper thin denials of obvious advantages Dublin possesses.

Always remember, all of Dublin All-Ireland's since 2011 come with an asterisk.

look at man united under ferguson and look at them now

money is main thing successful soccer sides (and most teams in other sports like the dublin footballers have in common when it comes to success tbf) but man united still have the money/budget and none of the success

well there you go then, that's a more significant factor in contributing to success than population alone
dublin are very well run now as well, which, along with the money, has given them unprecedented levels of success they've never had before despite always having the population

>My argument is that if it wasn't for their population and the commercial opportunity that it represents, then Dublin would've been left flat on their ass like Offaly have been.
okay well then your argument has nothing to do with mine since yours relies on the money they received which i agree is a much larger contributor to success than population alone and you seem to agree with me that without the money they wouldnt have been successful

im not from dublin
i dont even care that they won today

i can use examples in other sports to prove my point but this is a gaa thread

Yes, my point is two-fold. The GAA is incentivised by financial motives (related to population) to set things up in Dublin's favour, and secondly, with Dublin now engaging with the sport on a level comparable to other counties, their population provides them with an advantage. The example of Cork and Offaly is a good one. Both horribly run, but one has the population to counterbalance it, the other doesn't.

UP DA BLEEDIN DUBS

The GAA should help every county to be set up properly as Dublin is. And there needs be something done to allow lads that are representing their counties to live closer to home if possible and if it suits them, I'm saying it like that because I knew an old man that many years ago represented Clare in the football whilst he was working in Dublin, and his profession sort of meant he had to work in Dublin, but he used to drive out for training and matches, so that's not a new problem or even an actual problem for some. I know he wanted to do it, he made the choice.

>giving their 10 year-olds coaching on the level other counties give their minors
Ah, no wonder it wasn't fun as a kid.

Hmm, I'd suppose that they can't afford not to do that. The other counties just can't raise the same revenue.

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a.k.a. "Puke" football.

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>youtube.com/watch?v=bULZxbrEcGs

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Dublin GAA have killed Sport in this Country.

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They haven't killed hurling (yet).

You're watching the ladies football today, aren't you user?

>kerdasi amaq

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Well that was shite.

Who won?

Dublin.