>WDC Standings L. Hamilton 284 V. Bottas 221 M. Verstappen 185 C. Leclerc 182 S. Vettel 169
>WCC Standings Mercedes 505 Ferrari 351 Red Bull 266 McLaren 83 Renault 65
>Nico Hülkenberg F1 races without EVER scoring a podium: 170 (172 entries)
>Point difference between Gasly and Albon 31 points
>Hund status: RAAAAH ZE ROTEN AUTO SUMMONED SE FERRARI INTERNATIONAL ASSISTANCE, WIR WAREN UNTERHUNDER SINCE WIR WUZN'T FIAMG ANYMORE AAAARRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHH....
>News: Toto STILL seething Hamilton STILL seething Jolyon Palmer seething British media in general STILL seething Hugebear's funeral is today
The main problem is rule consistency. As long as the rules are consistent so every driver knows exactly what is allowed and what isn't then it's fine.
As for crashing into other drivers in order to try and win, I don't think the teams would like such a rule because their cars cost lots of money to make. So banning it is probably for the best. And then this rule should be ruthlessly and consistently applied to ensure a level playing field.
With the pushing the driver out issue, I think they just need to find a solid rule and stick to it. Either allow it or don't, simple. I agree with you that I think it's dumb, especially if you end up pushing your opponent into a wall. But the most important thing is to get a clear rule in place so we know exactly what the parameters for racing are.
Gabriel Cruz
Can someone answer me why Euroformula Open call their cars f317 when they obviously are f312? I just know that they use new engines, but maybe there are more things than that
>"Sorry WAGlad but I'm already part of Muhammad's harem"
Nolan Wright
The rules have been set by Massi's comments this weekend, you can push a driver off once and get a warning as long as it does not lead to a crash / spin, then if you do it again you get a penal.
Carter Robinson
youtube.com/watch?v=8Nxwn3OHkEw >grown men playing bumper cars Is this based or just plain stupid? Were the cars really so much more durable then?
Ian Rivera
They are F312s with an upgrade package which makes them F317s.
Next year they will use F320s or rather F317s with an upgrade package to make them F320s
EuroFormula Open is a funny series.
Christopher Martin
13th for vettee surprise win this season at suzuka/yasmarina
Christian Taylor
>4xWDC >surprise win >in a car where a twink in his second year of F1 has already won two (2) races Is Vettee ex, dare I say it, posed?
Bentley Miller
Ferrari (and we) consider Canada to be a Vettel win so he has one there in Ferrari (and our) eyes.
Brandon Gonzalez
>ferrari built a car purposely to be good at 3-4 tracks >got two wins out of it any other win can be considered surprising tb.h
Luis Roberts
Oh come on you are being exceptionally harsh now, and Ferrari have a history of dealing we this behaviour from the GOAT MSC.
Nicholas Kelly
What hamilton did in Monza is the equivalent of a player diving in the penalty box playing football.
David Myers
>any other win can be considered surprising tb.h Any wins left to be had this year anyway?
Jose Jackson
I suppose you could blame the cars' fragility on being almost entirely made of carbon fibre, after a hit it can be either ok or snapped in half / severely cracked, no inbetweens
Logan Gomez
Why has Max going from being a good mature driving style driver earlier this season to how he was at the beginning the past 2 races?
Mason Evans
texas perhaps and then only surprise as I'm saying
Samuel Wilson
>They are F312s with an upgrade package which makes them F317s. But what package? If its an aero package, the nose looks different
The suspension at least must have been musch more robust. It'd snap within a corner or two if they did that today.
Joshua Butler
Honda is shit and newey built the chassis so the max had absolute 0 (zero) chance to win spa and monza. Maybe that's why he sperged out in spa and was dumb at the beginning in monza
William Gomez
You know what I think what it is is that they have the option of using a base F312 or F317 but then have to follow the aero package which mandates a 2012 front nose but a 2017 rear wing.
Or at least that is what I understand from the tech regs.
So all the team are using F317s but the rules say they have to put on the old nose. I think.
Brandon Williams
do they have jet engines?
Benjamin Gomez
Fucking hell the Wiiliams documentary made me sad :(
Jaxson Harris
>you are being exceptionally harsh now Harsh? How? Leclerc has made at least as many errors as Vettel has (don't let his most recent points haul distract you from that). Two or three weeks ago, no one rated him over Bottas. And he has nowhere to go. There's no reason for Ferrari to give him a raise.
>Ferrari have a history of dealing we this behaviour from the GOAT MSC. Not quite: Schumacher usually got the team's full backing and thus never really had to go against them. He also DID play the team game when he didn't have a chance to go for the title himself (much like Vettel does right now). Leclerk is showing signs of putting himself above the team, and that tends to not go well with Ferrari.
Nathan Sanchez
If he has a bad start or feels like he has nothing to lose he becomes extremely impatient, goes for the hail mary at the first turn and often fucks it up. From what i've seen if he has a good start at the front of the grid and/or believes he can win the race he drives much more conservatively.
Luke Watson
this those fucked up starts always ended up bad
Luis Harris
this is a surprisingly good analogy
Eli Thompson
Plebs didn't rate him here and you take a few posts as the standard /f1/ opinion? LEC fucked up in the RAIN, he didn't spin for no reason like in Monza and then get a stop go, he didn't fuck up in Bahrain Vettel style. Vettel's fuck ups are so much more severe than LEC and continuing whilst LEC gets better in his first season with ferrari and second in F1.
Juan Murphy
Well, maybe you are right man, thanks for the help
But Claire is probably far too sentimental about the whole thing, which is ruining their competitiveness. Williams should have snapped up the opportunity to forge closer ties with Mercedes and buy more of their parts. Instead Claire has this sentimental attachment to "independence" which isn't really feasible anymore. But I watched an Autosport video where they were saying Williams have now realised they shouldn't make everything in-house, since it's just harming them. Hopefully they do get back on track.
If they did forge closer ties with Mercedes then I don't see how it's so much of a bad thing. Merc are the best team on the grid. And Williams have sold their soul to much shadier people and businesses for years - PDVSA, Sergey Sirotkin's money, Lance Stroll's money, and now Rokit phones. I've never heard of Rokit and I don't think most people have either - this company could well go bust before their sponsorship with Williams concludes (I know they recently extended it). So forging closer ties with Mercedes, a reputable automotive manufacturer who just happen to have the best team in F1, doesn't seem like a terrible thing. If Williams are reluctant to because they think that they want to challenge Mercedes for championships in the near future then they're obviously deluding themselves.
Kayden Jenkins
38th for Carrie is a dirty whore
Cameron Baker
pls elaborate I don't know what you're referring to and don't watch nogomet
Liam Ross
I can just see her felating multiple male guests at her birthday party now, I can see one of those strippers dressed as a bear with whipped cream on his willy coming towards her and her gorging on it, my mind ruined.
Andrew Powell
are they the last traditional standalone team? Is that what is killing them?
Carter Lopez
If they sell themselves to Mercedes they'll be a B-team at best forever. That's it. Never again champions. Probably never another race win, except in a monza 2008 meme race. The target will forever be the midfield. They won't be their own team any more, and the best they'll ever hope to be is second to their underdog overlords.
Jason Bailey
Claire probably fantasises about a Brawn GP tier season but it will never happen with her anywhere near the team.
Ian Wright
I still find his error at Monza weird. He was actually patient but somehow was still caught off guard when everyone hit the brakes. Almost as if he doesn't have a lot experience driving more at the back of the grid or not even used to everyday commuting and dealing with traffic jams
Brayden Bailey
Severity doesn't count for anything. Especially because severity is judging the outcome, not the circumstance of the error. Leclerc didn't do much better than Vettel in that regard, and yu can easily argue he did worse in the consistency department. The points do reflect that to an extent, as Leclercs two wins only put him marginally before Vettel. Neither of the two has looked too good this year, but to be fair, Hamilton, Bottas and Verstappen have looked just as bad. And Gasly much much worse.
because hamilton went into the escape route to avoid a collision when leclerc switched to the right. that user sees it as hamilton diving, trying to con the stewards
Joshua King
Of course it does, LEC is having a season much like Verstappen did at the start, fucking up on the high risk circuits like Monaco/Baku, just like Max did the first time, but you also see his brilliance. Vettel has had how many seasons at the team now? He is only getting worse, I don't even know what we are arguing about at this point but if you can't see LEC emerging as the new number 1 driver I don't really know what to say. Vettel will serve out his contract and leave most likely unless he can take a huge paycut and accept being number 2 status which would be very embarassing for most drivers.
Joshua Nguyen
He was ok at Monza desu, he just misjudged a bit, in Belgium he was indeed low IQ. I expect him to expose Albon hard from now on.
Henry Roberts
thank you divegrass, that I get
Andrew Foster
>but you also see his brilliance. Sorry, but, no. I don't see his "brilliance". Where do you see it? Faltering against Verstappen? Breaking rules left and right in Monza? Needing Vettel's help and a few Mercedes mishaps the week before? I do see him having lots of problems and messing up quite a lot. Sure, you can say he'll come around when he has more experience. But judging him right now, he's certainly not brilliant.
>if you can't see LEC emerging as the new number 1 driver Who's the "number 1" is something the team decides. So far, he's played dirty in qualifying once, but that does not make him a number 1. Let's wait and see where he goes from here. As for Vettel: You're honestly overstating his errors. Even if I have to repeat myself: He's not making more errors than Leclerc, he's significantly helped him to a win and for all practical purposes won Canada (a relatively weak track for Ferrari) on his own. Plus an extremely strong performance at Germany under difficult conditions - maybe the strongest from any driver this season. That does not excuse his errors, but it does put them in perspective, especially when someone like Hamilton made more errors and has nothing to make up for them.
Parker Thomas
>He also DID play the team game when he didn't have a chance to go for the title himself (much like Vettel does right now). It was pathetic but not unsurprising that the media deliberately ignored how Seb very loudly and proudly assisted Leclerc to get the win in Spa because they wanted to push their "Leclerc is number 1 now" narrative. In all his interviews immediately after the race Seb made sure everyone knew he did everything he could to hold Lewis up for Charles.
Vettel is smart af, and knew it wasn't his day after Ferrari got baited in to fucking his strat, so he helped Leclerc so he could bank maximum good boy points with the team for when the shoe is on the other foot, which he hopes will be for a championship, not random occasional race wins which he likely couldn't give a shit about with his record.
William Taylor
Alright Norbert, it's time to sleep now
Owen Ramirez
Were back to merc 1-2 and maybe a lucky win for amx if merc fucks up
Austin Gutierrez
>Faltering against Verstappen? Breaking rules left and right in Monza? Monza was definitely Charles responding to Max bullying him in Austria, and trying to play the same game. The problem was he fucked it up badly because it doesn't come naturally to him. It's actually very similar to >pic related imo
>It's going down tonight What did she mean by this
Tyler Cox
7 races to go lads do you think the #blessed one will be able to break vettspins and potato's record of 13 races won in a season?
Juan Martinez
Leclerc was still in a F2 18 months ago, if you think he didn't look really good you have to buy yourself a pair of glasses because you can literally see him improve SUBSTANTIALLY every race up to this point.
This weekend was probably his best race yet, defending and battling like he had to do is probably the hardest thing in racing.
I don't think Vettel is underperforming either, I think Ferrari have a worse car than last year compared to Merc and. Imo VET only know how to do one thing which is managing a cruise in pole with a very stable car, every time he had to race close and overtake/defend with a Ferrari (much more "spinny") he always choked.
Easton Anderson
she's too round. it would be like fucking Ms. Pac-Man
Isaiah Hughes
>It's actually very similar to >pic related imo Maybe. I'm not sure what his nature is. He seems a bit inconsistent in hin on-track demeanour. He was bending the rules much more often and over a longer timeframe though. How many laps did he keep it up until Hamilton fucked up? Rosberg just was more aggressive in some situations, and FIA, Mercedes and the media reacted very harshly to that. Leclerc got away easy in comparison.
Still worth less since both had less races in a season
Josiah Bailey
>This weekend was probably his best race yet, defending and battling like he had to do is probably the hardest thing in racing. Defending and battling like he did is outright illegal under normal circumstances. Sure, he probably had to to keep the two Mercedes behind. But it was excessively dirty and at any other track would have earned him a disqualification. Hell, it nearly did here! Sorry, but I will not regard a race where a driver got shown the black/white flag as a good race for him. If you think that's his best, that says a lot.
Jackson Cruz
Well, if he and Mercedes stick around long enough to witness the days a season will have 30 races, he might even win more than 15 ...
Isaiah Morris
>This weekend was probably his best race yet, defending and battling like he had to do is probably the hardest thing in racing. Except he should have got a penalty for running Lewis off the track if the FIA was at all consistent. He fucking blew it but got VERY lucky.
It was a very good race for him and she showed he's willing to risk getting a dq to earn a win, well done on his part and he's exactly what this boring fucking semen penis blowjob sports needed someone rash and aggressive and young and willinging to risk shit, it's refreshing to see and made for a really fucking entertaining race so fuck off you fucking fuck
Blake Brooks
Hey don't kink shame my rule 34 searches
Camden James
>needed someone rash and aggressive and young and willinging to risk shit That's Verstappen. And Hamilton before him. FIA always give in to those on-track bullies. I swear, if they continue to let Leclerc get away with shit like this, it will ruin the sport in the long run. Rule interpretation is already inconsistent as fuck.
Henry Parker
verstappen isn't likable tho, lecute is at least a nice guy who has a good personality off track
Jackson Gutierrez
>tf
>tp
Mason White
nah, he'll lose Singapore, Sochi, and Mexico.
Aiden Sanchez
True. But I feel that the more he gets away with breaking rules on-track, the worse his personality will become off-track. That's why I hope that Monza will be a one-off thing for him.
Leo Johnson
We'll see, as long as he keeps his cute butt (no homo) I don't really care
Connor White
>We'll see, as long as he keeps his cute butt I don't really care FTFY
Lucas Evans
Ok this is based
Jaxon James
>breaking rules on-track t. oto
Jason Martinez
Nah, I'm kinda happy he won and Mercedes lost. But it was as dirty as it gets. You do have to admit that.
Robert Allen
>Ricciardo goes to Ferrari >he doesn't win a championship because lolFerrari >Italian media starts laying in to him >he finally stops smiling all the time BASED timeline?
Wyatt Moore
>ricciardo goes to [enter any team name] >doesn't win his smile and optimism: [random ricci meme]
I swear plebs drive even more retarded after a race weekend. Fuck off Max you're making my commute worse.
Jaxon Kelly
McLaren is a standalone team.
I didn't say "sell" mate. I'm saying that if they bought more parts off Mercedes, like Mercedes were offering, then it could help them get out of the hole they're currently in. Otherwise how are they going to get out of the hole? I read today that they have made a financial loss this year which is bigger than last year, which isn't surprising. Their applied engineering arm is doing better and bringing in more cash, which is good, but they're still making a loss overall, partly due to their shitty 10th place last year in the WCC. If they keep coming 10th then the team's existence won't be viable anymore.
Liam Lee
Petrobras is planning on bringing big money back to Williams for next year so there is some hope
Juan Martin
I have a suggestion for you lads. Go rewatch the Belgian Grand Prix of 2018, soak in the race knowing that that was vettee's last win in F1. Enjoy and cry, because the broken german won't step on the highest place on podium, ever again.
Noah Rodriguez
>implying pouring money on a pile of burning shit will solve anything
Jaxon Gray
You live in Serbia.
Jaxson Jackson
based
Andrew White
You live in a penal colony.
Jayden Watson
It could have been yours
Chase Campbell
Serbian education system confirmed for still using 200 year old books.
Christopher Carter
What's that got to do with me being right?
Caleb Garcia
You now remember Stoffel Vandoorne You now remember having Waffel-fever
Evan Johnson
>no argument C o p e
Jordan Cox
>no argument M e m e
Ian Collins
VETTEL IS DONE LOL
never win another race, never win a championship away from Newey who is free wins
sad state of the sport honestly
Michael Taylor
With a stable rear Seb will expose hard Hammy, Max and Charles
Carter Green
can't have a stable rear when he's so buttblasted
>McLaren is a standalone team. it is, but is traditional, with all the sheikh money?
Austin Sanchez
>ricciardo goes to Manchester United >doesn't win >his smile and optimism: Shoey Did I do it right?
Mason Rogers
this is our timeline lads
Anthony Wright
why dont we ever see in the ferrari garage when vettel fucked up for example? When bottas went off in germany we saw close up of toto in agony but never mario
Gabriel Reyes
>ricciardo goes to [Brawn GP 22] >wins title
David Lewis
HOW DID HE FUCK UP? He just didn't ram him off the road completely, only other fuck up was before parabolica near the end but he sitll nailed the exit and maintaned the lead, the lock up at the first chicane is just standard f1 drivers being lazy, hamilton did it too remember.
Nathan Davis
Because Toto plays up for the camera. Not long ago he blew it and reacted when he realised the camera had switched to him, but it was far too late for it for be a natural reaction
Isaac Gutierrez
But we used to see the silver fox but never Mattia..
Landon Reed
...
Easton Cooper
Oh shutup Max did worse in austria and got no penalty, FIA are fucking around at the moment they punish Seb but let Max off why? So why should LEC get a penalty for doing half what max did?
Owen Green
wbm?
there's only two men that can come out of retirements and handle the brawn
Adrian Hernandez
Same reason really, but Arrivabenis wasn't faking it because he's Italian and has no emotional control 8bins on the other hand is Swiss and controls his emotions.
>on the line LMAO only someone as delusional as hamilton and his fans could truly believe that he is not certain to win the title even with 3 DNFs coming up
>Max did worse in austria and got no penalty, They never penalize Verstappen.
>the moment they punish Seb but let Max off They always penalize Vettel.
>why should LEC get a penalty Because him doing it in Monza was the only reason he didn't.
Bentley White
Look, Charles has to do what he has to do, would you do it? Grab the chance? You are with Ferrari in your second season and your teammate is making mistake after mistake, do you just let him win a bit? It is not good for the team or for charles or vettel, no he does his best and grabs the opportunity that many won't get. If Charles can win with ferrari I don't care if he humiliates Vettel, vettel is a cool quiet guy anyway who will enjoy his retirement.
Look, if you had one shot, one opportunity to seize everything you ever wanted. One moment. Would you capture it or just let it slip? His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy, here's vomit on his balaclava already, mom's spaghetti. He's nervous, but on the surface he looks calm and ready
Asher Green
>not wanting Vettel to win the WDC for Ferrari so Alonso suicides
Elijah Ross
this was about to post mom's spaghetti based laszlo poster fren
Eli Phillips
Great slavs think alike :^)
Dylan Long
Watching this now, better be good.
Hudson Williams
>Schumi He has literally no personal connection to him though. And I bet his girlfriend left him because she feared for her life.
Jackson Price
Oh wait, I have a better one.
S L A V M I N D L A V M I N D
William Edwards
>I don’t care, I want Charles on pole in Singapore >Mick? Oh we have plans for that one...
Watch it with this in mind instead of mindlessly swallowing the narrative it spins:
>Ginny Williams >becomes obsessed with Frank >marries another guy >stalks Frank >leaves Husband for Frank
>Frank Williams >never even went with the family on their family vacations >neglected his wife and children and only ever cared about the team >Wife sticks with him becomes paralysed (because she is an obsessed stalker) >she writes a book about how hard it was on her when he became paralysed >Frank is even more emotionally crippled then he is physically, and refuses to read it
>Jonathan Williams >Frank doesn't trust him to run the team >lets his sister run it instead, he just a token job in "classic team Williams" >fucking hates her, barely even talk to each other
>Jaime Williams >refused to be in the documentary >works for a London music advertising firm, not a free ezmode executive job in the family business >presumable hates his family and wants nothing to do with them
>Claire Williams >only dirt on her the entire documentary was her relationship with her brother >that story is told solely from her perspective and all blame is attributed to him >I wonder who was in charge of editorial content in the documentary?
Also: >be Ginny >engaged to be married to some guy >meet Frank >develop a thing for Frank >become obsessed with Frank >still get married to some guy >still obsessed with Frank >literally start stalking Frank >wait in your car all day outside where Frank in so you can "bump in to him" and talk >get real close with Frank >shamelessly Flirt with Frank in front of your husband >finally leave husband for Frank The Williams documentary plays off this entire scenario as cute...
Josiah Gutierrez
>>shamelessly Flirt with Frank in front of your husband *which was at a public "dance" in front of all their friends, to humiliate her husband.
Daniel Campbell
>that last part fucking kek I'm on that right now and if you replaced the sappy lovey dovey music with something more foreboding the whole thing could just as well be the intro to a murder documentary
Charles Ramirez
And Claire sits there telling the story about how her mother is a fucking sociopath as if it's funny and cute. Really says a lot about the Williams family when they consider that kind of behavior to be a positive.
Fucking horrible people the lot of them.
William Cox
>"We'd go to parties and there was Frank. >He was dancing with Ginny >And he was getting obscene with her >And her husband is watching it with daggers coming out of his eyes. >And I'm like Frank what the fuck are you doing?" >*HAPPY DANCE MUSIC INTENSIFIES* This is too good.
I'd be pessimistic too if I had to work with French people
Nathaniel Wilson
When was the last time the constructors champion did not win the drivers championship as well?
Levi Parker
>Renault Sport F1 team sacks Nico Hulkenberg per continous exposure from a certain Finnish number counting site >The site in question keeps a so called hulk-o-meter that counts the number of races and entries in which the german driver has not scored a podium >Hulkenberg's knowledge of such rude site has led him to become pessimistic of his future, leading the french formula 1 team to take measures
>why is Vettel so bad now He isn't. Hamilton, for example, is way worse.
Wyatt Perry
kek you're making me want to watch it again
>Ginny is married >becomes obsessed with Frank >she sits in her car all day outside a building where she thinks Frank is inside >waits for literally hours >Frank finally comes out >hops out of her car and acts casual >"oh Frank, fancy seeing you here" >*HAPPY MUSIC INTENSIFIES* Stalking is so cute :3
Colton Hill
And yet he backed out, disproving your theory. Whoops.
Ethan Martinez
>from monaco GP winner >to a mob enforcer is he breaking legs and busting kneecaps like they did unto him?
Juan Hernandez
>yeah i should just give away points! that's the way to win a championship! Why are all Hamilton seethers so fucking stupid?
Michael Miller
>Retardo being told in the press that he will keep driving a shitbox for 18 more months
Sad, he's probably praying that Vettel retire now.
William Richardson
and before 2008 1999, both times Ferrari lost a to McLaren driver.
Liam Evans
Christ look at those bitten fingernails, nearly disappeared. I can never understand people who bite their nails that far down.
>implying the Money Badger isn't only there for the fat paycheck Who cares about ever being a WDC, or even winning races, when you can Stop Being Poor™
Caleb Hill
The reason why Merc is so seething right now is because their party was fucked up at Hockenheim and wanted petty revenge at Monza :D instead now Netflix will make them look like idiots prancing around in stupid clothes, fucking up their celebratory GP while Ferrari wins its own celebratory GP.
Jordan Bailey
>the story of their wedding fuck's sake
>I told Frank: "Well this is a great day, I'm going to buy you a spectacular lunch!" >And he said "No you're not. I'm working." >And he fucked off! Haha! So romantic.
Andrew Miller
>seething so much about a single driver that you literally can't stop thinking about him and will try and crowbar him into every post you make Lmao.
Williams needs the management to be fired and the whole company being handled by an actual competent group of people. They refused to take parts from Mercedes despite having a car seconds away on the lap, they are still very arrogant for a bunch of shitters.
They say "we don't want to be a B team" but they can't even compete to be one.
Jason Martinez
>yt notification pops up >FORMULA 1 is live: LIVE Pre-Race in Monza | 2019 Italian Grand Prix 2 days late. state of jewtube
Kayden Rivera
Come on, at least rename that pic to "sauer kraut 2.png". Right now you're just showing off your own butthurt with how unapologetically humourless you approach that whole shitposting thing of yours.
Dylan Brooks
Shieeeeeet
Christopher Clark
I really dislike how those round sunglasses are back in fashion, they look so fucking goofy.
Jerez>Valencia>Barcelona Magny Cours>Paul Ricard Adelaide>Melbourne Long Beach>Las Vegas>Texas
Ayden Brooks
>the Tuscan installation also reveals its ambition to try to organize a Formula 1 GP. Director Poli first wants to concentrate on renewing with MotoGP, then in five years he hopes to be able to hunt Circus. "we want F1 to race here"
>merc will pay off neetflix to turn the episode into a tragic and sad loss story of the poor unterhunden that fight against evil OP fascists
Gabriel Davis
>Bianchi dies >Wins GP3 >His dad dies >Wins FKino >Charlie dies >Dominant Bahrain if it weren't for exploding engines >Hubert dies >Wins Spa >VETTEE's career dies >Wins Monza >Giada's dog is sick >???
>One of the remarkable things about @LewisHamilton is how he has achieved so much in #F1 without committing professional fouls on track.
Holy fuck that is a severe level of bullshit.
Nathaniel Cooper
DIS WAZ MEANT TO BE A CELEBRATION OF MERSAYDEEZ, WE PAID FOR THE FUCKING GRAND PRIX, THIS WAS OUR GAY NETFLIX DAY TOO, WHY DO THE CROWD CHEER WHEN OUR CARS CRASH????
Carter Smith
Ferrari didn't let them film monza did they?
Benjamin Turner
>n-no u! Pathetic.
Jaxson Phillips
VERSTAPPEN LECLERC MERCEDES
who wins? next 20 titles right there...
Christian Taylor
>Huberts death
Brandon Hall
wasn't he given the arse from commentary for being baha-tier about hambo?
Jacob Parker
I believe contract between Netflix and Ferrari was for Monza GP only, like with Merc it was Hockenheim only
Jordan Bell
You're not coming across any more mature doing this, you know ...
Landon Myers
Holy fuck, what balls. I mean, imagine actually claiming that in writing while being a "professional" F1 journalist. He must carry them around in a wheelbarrow.
Carson Jenkins
Arrogant, yeah maybe. I think I would use the word misguided though. Fair enough Claire wants the team to be independent but she needs to be realistic.
Notable arguments in /f1/ 03/09 - 10/09 >Vettel out of track limits argument Very entertaining argument, one side unable to understand how tyres buldge, also entertaining how the rules are wrong but common sense dictates. 7/10 argument
>germany vs britcuck hamilton fan Not that entertaining, one side (brit) far too quick to use bad language, overall bad feeling from reading these arguments going on for several days now, would rather it stop. 3/10 arghument
Daniel Nelson
>/f1_il_mugello_si_candida_per_il_gp_d_italia/ The "European GP" is one thing, but hosting the """""Canadian GP""""" in Imola is utter bullshit.
Jackson Williams
ooh wow 2025, probably won't be alive by then.
Blake James
s-surgery user?
Kevin Lopez
the heineken led board aside this could be based if it's just you two and if she gets the importance of that spot
>still watching the 2017 Williams documentary >there's this whole bit about GIRL POWER in the middle >"There are still those who believe that women can't do the jobs that men do, well we've got a female team principal, female aerodynamicists, female engineers, female mechanics, ..."
2019 season really isn't helping their case so far is it.
Robert James
the latter is entirely a samefag arguing with himself which is why it's not as entertaining as the rules argument
Jason Edwards
>now some brit tard is getting mad too You've been "getting mad" for quite some time now. Also, please stop adressing yourself in the third person.
Ryan Russell
The only reason to ever listen to moist holes is for a chance to put your peepee inside them
Leo Edwards
Mercedes has a female trainer for Hamilton and he wins basically everything lmao
Alexander Torres
Is that the blonde with the ponytail? Her ass looked amazing in Monza.
David Flores
Trainer? She just carries around his stuff.
Elijah Torres
A physiotherapist for one driver isn't exactly the same as a team principal, engineers, etc.
Angela Cullen
Beware, she's a lot older than you probably think. I'd still berry tho.
Chase Brooks
>he doesn't know
Grayson Bennett
Holy shit she looks 25 on TV and 40 on Instagram? Would still smash due to the great ass.
I thought I was paranoid but indeed it's unironically samefag Raskesh isn't only a fag, he's a schizo too
Jayden Bailey
If Singapore is the most hard race in terms of physicality, which is the easiest?
Caleb Brown
I would guess Abu Dhabi
Luis Garcia
Monza
It's the shortest race.
David Rivera
monza? little strain on the body from the straights and it's over pretty quickly.
John Stewart
barcelona
Jayden Peterson
>2019 was 1 minute and 7 seconds from being the shortest normal race
Liam Russell
How much did the VSCs took off the time? It has been around 1 lap and a half more or less so I think without it would have been much closer if not faster Also >Hammo's fastest lap still was 7 tenths off Barrichello's record Impressed, thought it would have been beaten
Anthony Martin
Did Lecerc dump Giada to go after Hubert's Monegasque gf?
I remember him mistaking a slo-mo replay for Fisichella's Renault breaking down three times in the same race.
Jack Reed
>NIO formula mEme team will be called "NIO 333 FE Team"
Are you ready for the imitation 555 livery?
Nolan Hall
>implying thats not fiscios actual pace >you now remember australoa 2006 >"giancarlo, stop being so fucking slow"
Thomas Cox
Vaping I hope, the only enviromentally firendly way to have a nice smoke also >Gunther to BMW-Andretti >DaCosta porbably to Techeetah Nice
Thomas Taylor
the guy on the left to the front carrier looks aesthetic as fuck
Gavin Baker
Monza or Paul Ricard I think
Brandon Rivera
Merc reveal tomorrow.
I believe it's Stoffel and either Wehrlein or De Vries
Joseph Davis
There was a vaping study covered in the paper yesterday and apparently it quickly fucks you heart. I look forward to the longer term studies where it isnt better than smoking.
Landon Gonzalez
I JUST WANT LECxRUTH RELATIONSHIP NOW
Hunter Barnes
I too, want that ugly bitch to die.
Alexander Gutierrez
Is a funeral really the place to showcase your designer zoomer sunglasses?
And it gives you lung problems which loads of kids are now being hospitalised for / dying from.
Sebastian Anderson
Are those nightmare goggles?
Jackson Johnson
Yeah suppose Stoffel is staying, I guess Debris? i mean it was only hinted but I'm pretty sure even him realuze he doesn't really have a shot to F1. That being said, it needs to be seen if Merc understood that experience in the car is pretty much needed for FE
Jayden Powell
would alonso wear a kimoa hat?
Charles Williams
harry potter XIV and the steampunk prince
Jaxon James
have sex you freak.
Jacob Allen
Oh yeah, read a couple of news earlier this month about people getting sick from it.
Asher Smith
Alonso wouldn't go to any funeral because he has no driver frens
Parker Morgan
Everything looks exactly the same.
Jace Nguyen
Even karting at the highest level costs a million dollars lad. Either they have to have sponsors or be trustfund babbies.
Julian Diaz
imagine naming your team after your number plate
Tyler Cox
If jorge lorenzo died alonslow would surely show up. In full kimoa outfit
Dominic Rogers
Can you lads suggest me some kino 90s race? I saw spain 96, jerez 97, spa 95, monaco 92, Australia 94, brazil 91. Grazie ragazzi
Jace Rivera
I thought he bonded with Hamilton during the Red Bull era over how much both of them hated Vettel?
everyone complaining about Mercedes/RedBull/Ferrari winning everything, there's your answer >Renault: the year after next for sure >McLel: celebrating being slightly less far off the podium >Toro Rosso: not allowed to progress >Racing Point: lol >Alfa Romeo: Ferrari kindergarten/retirement home >HAAS: lmao >Williams: F
McLaren sold their soul to the King of Bahrain. Mercedes have soul. The soul of ruthless efficiency. And they haven't sold out to anyone else which is why they have soul. Haas sold its soul to a bearded lunatic but now that he's gone, they have soul again. Gene Haas started the team because he loves racing. And they're the only American team in the sport. So for me, that's soul.
Jaxson Butler
>Mercedes have soul. The soul of ruthless efficiency. So, soulless
>The soul of ruthless efficiency yeah thats the definition of souless
Jason Cooper
forgot to change your proxy from britsh to german m8
Caleb Harris
monaco 96, 97 also >jerez 97 moj brat
Ian Peterson
The 98 season is pure kino >mclaren fucking everyone in melbourne >based schumacher meme penalty in silverstone >double restart in montreal, also schumi v hill >spa >based schumacher v hakkinen in monza >ralf in nurburgring >suzuka
No. Soul means spirit and authenticity. Which Mercedes have, and they use it to win.
Soulless means people who have sold out to big money. Man City are soulless because they're a plastic oil money club.
But it seems that to you, soulless means "any successful team whose success I'm jealous of"
Jackson Roberts
remainder that vettee saved ferrari's ass for the 2nd straight race, without the spin they were going to use the same tyre as mercedes and it would have been another MWL, the team would have lost all the momentum and leclerc would havef left exposed against the whole of italy for losing in a faster car
Ryder Wood
>Soul means spirit and authenticity 200 IQ post right here lurk more
Jace Price
>without the spin they were going to use the same tyre as mercedes lolno
Leo Young
>Lobbying to have an engine you have already developed becoming the engine formula for the next 7 years and killing competitiveness and several fun back marker teams with costs of that power unit So much soul 2bh lads
Liam Ramirez
>MUH PAS-EE-OWN >WAHHH WHY IS OUR CAR SHIT AND WE CAN'T WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS Lmao what a seething fucking moronic faggot you are you fucking cunt.
I've said it before but I'll say it again - this is exactly the same seething butthurt that people have said about winners like Jose Mourinho (when he was actually winning) and Team Sky/Ineos in cycling. "Wahh I don't like their style, their winning is making everything boring, wahhh".
Lmao what a pathetic load of seethe.
Parker Long
Except they came prepared for the race with softs -> hards strategy. Vettel's spin actually lowered the chance of a ferrari win because he would've been able to get in front of bottas before the pit stop, which would ultimately result in rari 1-2.
Jack Russell
>trying to argue that merc is soul toppi kek
Grayson Walker
It's nothing like that at all, did you even read the post?
Jason Gomez
Why did Leclerc dump Giada only a few days after their vacation in America?
>Wahhhhhhh why don't are you going against the groupthink? That's not fair! This is my safe space!!!
Nathaniel Kelly
go and fuck yourself, curry nigger.
Ryan Cruz
You have never said that And did Sky/Ineos lobby for a new bike drive train that everyone has to use that they developed and sold to people for so much other smaller teams went belly up? Never heard that about cycling and I follow that pretty closely.
>Why did Leclerc dump Giada No, no ... you got it all wrong. She left him, but not because she doesn't love him anymore, but because she'd rather not end up dying for his next victory. He's running out of friends.
Jackson Turner
Go home Lewis, isn't there a rent boy you should be fucking?
That's not an argument. They have soul, they have passion to win. Just because they don't throw spaghetti around like a fucking Mediterranean (not that there's anything wrong with Mediterraneans) doesn't mean they don't have a passion to win. I think the team leadership of Toto and Niki had tons of soul; Niki did that job because he loves racing.
Soulless would be a team like Williams, even though they have been great in the past. But currently they're soulless - selling out to pay drivers and thinking that will solve their issues.
>come into thread using a term incorrectly >get told you're an idiot for using it incorrectly >nuh uh implying im even trying to use it correctly, im merely pretending to be retarded
How do you even lobby for regulations change in football?
Christopher Fisher
>Niki did that job because he loves racing. I'll agree with you there Niki had tons of soul, but Toto has none, and it feels good to watch him bitch out while still leading both championships with a huge lead. Mercedes are a bunch of bitches
Austin Thomas
>this much seethe just because a team is winning Lmao.
WOW you're right, because Ferrari have NEVER exploited FOM for their own benefit in the form of a special "long term team" bonus or whatever the fuck it's called. No team has ever done this! No other teams have ever lobbied FOM for anything that would benefit them!
Logan Martin
>WOW you're right, because Ferrari have NEVER exploited FOM for their own benefit Oh, how cute! You're trying to be ironic! ... too bad it doesn't work.
>not having british, australian, german, dutch and filip flags filtered
Juan Perry
Just use a small one on bradford
Adam Price
>They have passion to win Every f1 team wants to win fyi, but noone has the 450 mill budget and best engineers/strategists of a Mercedes. They're a soulless PR machine that wormed their way into engine regulations, constantly trying to swing the other changes in their favour so they keep winning (le passion for win amirite) and now is trying to haul as many GPs as they can, because they simply can. You also mention Niki; yes he loves racing but he's the shrewdest and most calculated f1 champion ever. He knew what he was doing. Mercedes has no soul; they're just thinking of clutching the FiA and F1 more and more to feed the mother company's pockets, while throwing Lewis the ultimate PR machine Hamilton to the fans to look likeable and shit. Winning by having engine&tyre advantages that you lobbied for and almost always having FiA at your back isn't soul. Soul is trying to win fairly, soul is making your own team and not being a huge ass corporation's side party, soul is about admitting defeats when you lose instead of making excuses and pointing fingers.
Jonathan Jenkins
this is all your fault for not filtering the UK flag, cunts
Kevin Rodriguez
>Wahhhhhhh why don't are you going against the groupthink? That's not fair! This is my safe space!!! The level of patheticness is off the charts.
Benjamin Hall
I'd go to the valley parade and finish the job first
Aiden King
at least im not british lmao
Luis Smith
Get off here, never post again, and fuck off to the mosque then ya cunt.
Since she hasn't sperged about it means she was guilty which means she fell for the american cock meme
Josiah Hernandez
>Make some low effort Shitpost >People seeth at each other discussing that shitpost
I love the Internet sometimes
Aiden Foster
So your definition of "soulless" is "teams or people who have lobbied for rules changes in the sports they participated in"?
So I guess when this guy made his post - - then according to you he was saying that Ferrari, Williams, and Haas have never lobbied FOM about anything whatsoever, while Mercedes, Red Bull, McLaren and Racing Point all have? I'm pretty sure they all lobby FOM about what they think is in their interests.
>wahhh they're winning and i'm mad! I think you need to look in the mirror before you start calling others bitches.
Levi Cooper
what was Newey referring to when in his book he said that he sat there and seethed? Was very funny reading that on here.
Brody Cook
>He thinks that every British poster is the same person
then it would be just me rambling about JV, Stroll, lego and 1997
Aaron Bennett
>has no argument so resorts to ad hominem Well if you want to admit I'm right then fair enough.
Carson Sanchez
>was good at karting when I was 8 >be 9, dad takes me to karting school for one day to try >cry like a bitch all day I don't even remember why lol >dad brings that up when I tell him that some F1 drivers are my age now
>He unfollowed giada while she's still following him maybe these guys are right
Nolan Cox
>resorts to ad hominem Wait ... do you really consider being called "British" an insult? I mean ... I probably would, but I feel that you shouldn't.
Ryan Green
97 was a pretty good year >Schumi knocks himself out of title contention >Villeneuve wins >Ulver release Nattens Madrigal All in all I'd call it based
Tyler Gomez
>Rakesh Bhatia >British KWAB.
Charles Sanders
infinitely better than the brainless shitposting that's been going on for the past few weeks, surely you cant stand: >SEETHING KRAUT >hamilTURD >KWAB KWAB >nonce >that one hungarian retard who posts ippo screenshots along with ">anime" (hes based thougg, unfiltered that flag yesterday) >bumlicker this >unexposable that >hidf retards >toothpasteniggers Im living in bliss with all that shit hidden
Josiah Cooper
Double dubs kek
Kayden Baker
Guess Charlie boy will win singabore, while giada will rip under mysterious conditions
Gabriel Barnes
I only wish for charles' sake the pussy wasn't that good that he folds and catches feels again
Sebastian Morales
No, I'm just saying that comparing Mercedes with Mourinho is ridiculous Besides while Mou played defensive football at times, his greatest achievements were actually underdog wins, Porto and Inter People complain about bus parking but holding out at Camp Nou one man down against a much stronger team in 2010 with Inter was nothing short of a miracle, I guess the best comparison would be Vettel's win in Monza 2008 or Maldonado in Spain 2012
Bentley Cooper
I apologise for that idiot sharing my flag who gets constantly baited by that one bong
>REEEE STOP POSTING THINGS I DON'T LIKE! Fuck off back to Haiti Bahanig.
Jaxon Richardson
thanks, I tend to keep my shitposting on topic, accurate, reliable, just enough autismo and a bit of banter as well. can't we all just get a long
William Cruz
Remove sidepods aero pls
Christian Perry
charles, ruth, giada and a strap-on engaged in a foursome
Brayden Foster
For me '98 was better. Schumi lost out again, but this time to Migga, kino spa, Luxembourg and silverstone, Coulthard starts his eternal jobbing to mika and "we gon get it next year". Also kino jordan livery
Cooper Evans
>he spends his evenings making fake arguments using a proxy this might be the pinnacle of shitposting, you gotta appreciate the hustle lads
That's true, 98 was a fantastic year. I still have a video cassette with Spain 98 taped on it, so I can always watch both arrows cars break down right next to each other. Plus Paysage d'Hiver released both Schattengang AND Die Festung that year. Late 90s were pretty great
Sebastian Hughes
I remembered a Lego racing game I played as a kid so looked it up. Fugg I forgot about this, played it for hours as a kid
Ferrari's budget is bigger than Mercedes'. So that's one "argument" of yours defeated straight away.
>They're a soulless PR machine And Ferrari N.V., the famous Dutch-headquartered car company (for tax purposes, of course), listed on the New York Stock Exchange, and formerly a subsidiary of Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, isn't?
>constantly trying to swing the other changes in their favour So no other team, in your view, has EVER lobbied FOM for rules changes that are in their favour? I guess you don't remember when Ferrari was threatening to quit F1 unless certain demands that they made were met?
>and now is trying to haul as many GPs as they can And other teams don't? You yourself said that every team wants to win.
>they're just thinking of clutching the FiA and F1 more and more to feed the mother company's pockets And Ferrari N.V., Red Bull GmbH, Renault S.A. - they're not using F1 as a marketing platform to drive revenue at all, are they?
>while throwing Lewis the ultimate PR machine Hamilton to the fans to look likeable and shit So no other driver does PR stuff in your view? Rosberg didn't have a deal with Thomas Sabo? Ricciardo hasn't done a billion Renault adverts this year?
>Winning by having engine&tyre advantages You mean the engine that is now less powerful than the Ferrari? And the tyres that are the same for everybody? (Maybe you're referring to suspension instead which all teams have an equal opportunity to develop?)
>Soul is trying to win fairly You think no other F1 team tries to find every possible loophole in the rules in order to win? The double diffuser never happened?
>soul is making your own team and not being a huge ass corporation's side party So Ferrari N.V.'s team is soulless? How many years has Enzo been dead now?
>instead of making excuses and pointing fingers. So Toto giving credit to Ferrari and congratulating them, while conceding that their car wasn't good enough at Spa and Monza, is making excuses and pointing fingers?
Sebastian Bennett
Octan Haas F1™ Team, the only acceptable replacement
Carter Thomas
Go to a gay bar and ask a guy to ram his arm up to his elbow and pull out whatever is stuck up your arse out
Jeremiah Reed
It's gonna be a Mon Cheri as a thanks
Evan Cook
>nostalgia inducted, replies harvested, mood lifted, agruing ceased hard days work done lads, g'night
Ferrari spent less money on their cars than Mercedes during hybrid era. It's just a fact. Ferrari was started and ran by a single man more than half it's time. They bankrupted more than once in their time so NV bought them. Completely different to Mercedes Red Bull makes way more money outside and is bigger than mercedes just because of the products they sell&other stuff they do. That's why they're also soulless. Renault is a joke ever since 2006. Ferrari started out as a racing team first, unlike Mercedes. Don't mix the two. Lewis is the ultimate PR machine, that doesn't imply others don't do it. What is reading comprehension? They had better engine for 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 season, the whole last year they rambled on about the thread of tyres being "too thick" so pirelli listened to mommy and made thinner tyres so only extremely high downforce cars like Red bull can manage them, but honda is an inferior engine . Finding loopholes is a part of engineering evolution; that's why these cars are fast. Going as far as doing illegal tyre testing and lobbying for your engine concept when others are in the dark is however just perfidious and evil. Lewis at Spa: "man if I had only few more laps" , "we could've done a better strategy and win" Don't even want to mention all this coping toto and lewis did at Ferrari and FIA at Monza. Now fuck off
Samuel Hill
honestly his shoes were ridiculous for such an event come on leclerc
Brandon Johnson
I guess they just wanted to win monza that badly
Liam Rodriguez
Hello again, /f1/
I have returned from my great Belgium-Germany-Italy escapade to remind you all that the greatest driver in F1 history is due to return any day now
>tweets about how a baby crying on a plane makes him miss home How soon until he goes postal?
Juan Ward
Assuming that under these conditions the only non merc winner for the rest of the season would be max at mexico and/or singapore, what would be your top 5 races this year so far lads?
>Know Mercedes are probably better till 2021 >Focus all your resources on just winning that Italian GP after all those years >Get the love back of all those Tifosi >They finally win the Monza GP so now they'll focus on the 2022 car while letting Mercedes and RB battle it out for the remaining years >FWL is back whilst the Merc has quit the sport for Formula Meme and RB is now 2016 McLaren tier Just 7D chess by Ferrari
James Cruz
Most will disagree but I rate Austria over Germany.
Austria Germany Hungary Italy Silverstone
Zachary Davis
Germany Silverstone Austria Monaco and probably Spa
Why doesn't Ricciardo have a girlfriend as of now? He's famous, funny, has win his fair share of races, yet he's still single? I don't get that, he doesn't seem THAT gay
Connor Lopez
All that funny smiley shit is just a front. He's as beta as can be. Why do you think his ex was his high school sweetheart?
Adrian Wright
He was dating a red bull employee.
No idea if he is still dating.
Nathaniel Moore
Germany Italy Belgium Austria Canada, but only because I was there
Dominic Baker
>Toto STILL seething >Hamilton STILL seething
Still? what have they said now?
Carter Hughes
real question: are Yea Forums (you)s a substitute for likes or upboats on social media as terms of short term rewards?
What's the value in talking to seething continentals who don't give a single shit about cycling and spend their entire time seething at the fact that British cyclists merely exist in the sport?
That's fine, I thought it was still in the chain of the (You) discussion
Chase Thompson
>not even Chad Leclerc can keep a gf in 2019 Incels were right
Jackson Sanders
>Ferrari spent less money on their cars than Mercedes during hybrid era. What's your source for this? I thought I'd check. And maybe some of these sources are dodgy, but it looks to me like Ferrari spent more money than Mercedes in 2014, 2016, 2017, and 2018. Mercedes only spent more than Ferrari in 2015. And overall in the period of 2014 - 2018 (don't think figures for this year are around yet), Ferrari spent more if my currency conversions are correct. Also, Red Bull spent the most of any team in 2014 and 2015 according to the figures I've found.
I converted all currencies into GBP to add up totals for the hybrid era. Results: 1st: Ferrari (£1.585b) 2nd: Mercedes (£1.439b) 3rd: Red Bull (£1.352b) 4th: McLaren (£1.003b)
John Lewis
Charliekek is a cheater and only won because the Italian mob were holding the FIA hostage.
Hudson Hughes
these numbers are obviously trash, mclaren suddenly doubled their money in 2015 then went back to normal? lmao
Why the fuck would Red Bull go 340->468->215->280->310? Especially considering that Red Bull in 2015 had the highest budget of any team that year, and apparently their highest ever? That year was probably one of if not the worst one for the team to date.
Xavier Anderson
They literally say in those links Ferrari numbers are estimated as they dont have the british government releasing all their information like most other teams.
So you haven't really proven anything with regards to Ferrari. Mercedes themselves said they were working and spending money developing the engine years before the regulations were set, where do you account for this money which is hybrid era money? So you haven't really proven anything with regards to merc or any spending for the hybrid era at all.
What a large long shity post you created that doesn't actually have any substance.