/nfl/ general- Rank the 2004 QB draft class edition

News:
DAL: Zeke plays 31 snaps in Cowboys' blowout win
DAL: Prescott posts perfect 158.3 QB rating in win
IND: Marlon Mack rips Bolts for 25-174-1 rush line
NE: Damien Harris healthy scratch for Week 1
SEA: Chris Carson leads SEA in targets with seven
LAC: Ekeler lights up Colts for 154 yards, 3 TDs
BUF: Singletary posts 98 yds on 9 2nd-half touches
LAC: Mike Williams exits with 2nd-half knee injury
CIN: Joe Mixon (ankle) questionable to return
SF: Tevin Coleman (ankle) done for day vs Bucs

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>stoolers

Its fucking over

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Dak is elite.

Talent:
>Rivers
>Fatlessburger
>Manning

Clutchness in Playoffs:
>Manning
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>Roethlisburger
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>Rivers


Best at not being embarrassed by Tom Brady:
>Manning
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>Matt Schaub
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>Rivers (only because he doesn't make the playoffs half the time)
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>JP Losman
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>Rapistburger

SUMMERTIME LOVERRRRRRRR, GIVE ME ONE CHANCE AND I'LL TREAT YOU LIKE A PRINCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>cowboys fans acting like beating the Giants means anything

Eli>>Ben>>>>>>>Rivers

Go to bed you unfunny hack

Virility: Rivers>>>>>>Roethlisburger>>>>[POWER GAP]>>>>Eli

>Steelers heemed
>Browns heemed
>Bengals given false hope, and defeated
Imagine being the Ravens right now, holy shit.

What is the best way to watch games online if you can't watch them live streamed. Is there a good VoD system for the games, or am I screwed by work

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who would you take as the franchise QB on your team?
Josh Allen or Lamar Blackson?

put me down for allen.

oh fuck off jewish anime faggot

that's not very canadian of you

allen. he's a lovable lanky meme

>mfw america's team, the dallas cowboys, absolutely STYLED all over the poo york gnats
>mfw faggot haters have been VIOLENTLY shitting their pants in fear of the dominance of america's team, the dallas cowboys
>mfw early season cope posts are in FULL swing

it sure feels GREAT being a fan of the best team in the NFL, america's team, the dallas cowboys. how pissed off are you faggot haters right now?

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>best team
That goes to the New England Patriots.

only the 2015 panthers can save us from the patriots

Fun Fact: Without the Patriots, cowboys as we know them wouldn't even exist.

>replace Gronkowski with Antonio Brown

Wtf how is this fair

Imagine having neither and shitting on the Steelers by 30 points first

lads it's the >stoolers

Fuck that, I’m ranking the 2016 draft QBs instead

1. Jacoby Brissett
2. Dak Prescott
POWER GAP
3. Jared Goff
4. Carson Wentz
5. Nate Sudfeld
POWER GAP
899. Connor Cook
900. Cardale Jones
901. Kevin Hogan
902. Whatever other no-names I’m forgetting
THE ABYSS
9001. Paxton Lynch
???. Christian Hackenberg

I'm unironically excited for the loins offense this year, Stafford and Hockenson looked great

>Thinking X team beating Y team is impressive
>We beat B team and they're better than C team
Week 1-3 hype is unironically worse than pre season hype

>racist man doesn't want the objectively better QB because racism
wow can you please sand down those edges there are children on this board

>literally not being able to beat the cardinals
>excited
jesus you detoilet cucks don't have alot to be excited about do you

>I'm unironically excited for offense that just tied with the tardinals

thanks for sharing, billy

Chargers

Literally the coaches and playcalling fault, almost nothing wrong with Staffords execution, especially when his shit o line had him running for his life

>Stafford just needs more help!
>Repeat for a decade
that about sums it up I guess yeah

>having hope as a Lions fan
>even after tying a rookie midget QB

You people do it to yourselves

Racist white man here. Would unironically choose LeMeme over Allen (inaccurate passer at every level). Funnily enough, Allen is the bigger rushing threat too. Overall he’s a third-string-tier QB who will be clinging to a roster spot in a few years

(You)

Brady's first play next week will be a bomb down the field to Antonio Brown for an easy touchdown. Cap this and witness.

When the coaches blatantly mismanage the clock, call terrible timeouts, and reduce the pressure on defense, I don't see how that's Staffords fault

DRAGONS

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DRAGONS EVERYWHERE

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>Best at not being embarrassed by Tom Brady:
>Matt Schaub
I guess you missed when he was the Texans QB and Brady dabbed all over us and our letterman jackets in the playoffs.

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there should be an infinite gap between manning and ben in clutchness in playoffs

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Week 1 QB power rankings

>Elite
Lamar Jackson

>Shit
Everyone else

>XFL tier
Mitch Trubisky

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Good job beating up on a dolphins team tanking so hard several players asked to be traded after the game

>Lamar destroyed the Dolphins will to live

Based

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retard

Patriots are -16. I might actually bet Patriots to cover. Like a few years ago when the Jags were really embarrassing and 23 or 24 point dogs to the Patriots and Seahawks in back to back weeks. 16 is like giving me a free touchdown. It should be in the 20s. Iirc the Jags barely covered against the Pats but not against the Seahawks, but I’m too lazy to google scores.

Putting my life’s savings on the Dolphins beating the Patriots. Wish me luck boys.

Kek

I’m getting good odds so could be in for a lot of money.

>almost losing to the Redskins

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>almost losing
no, >we were pretending to be bad. Also R******s are way better than lolphins.

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Dont talk @ me ever again. Your QB only threw for 3 TDs and had an imperfect passer rating.

>being this cocky about beating a 0-16 team
good good, watching gayvens downfall will be even better

>good good, watching gayvens downfall will be even better

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Why does Old Gay think beating the Dolphins is impressive?

The redskins will lose to the dolphins

The Patriots are ADDING AB.
The Stoolers are fucking retard crackers that should have been nicer to him instead of trying to trying his career. Now they are going to pay for their retardation for the next half decade. Brady night even get another five, FIVE, rings out of this. He's going to have ELEVEN fucking rings because Stoolers and Raidniggers dont know how to run a business.

>trying to trying

Trying to end. Sorry I'm a bit hungover.

Yeah, I mean look at all those ring Brady won with Moss

>the WEEB is the absolute peak of human masculinity

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Could that fanbase be any more reddit?

injuries can still derail them, their O-line is weak and they just lost Marcus Cannon last night in garbage time because Beli is a fucking retard like that. Gronk originally broke his arm blocking for a PAT in garbage time and it cost them an Owl

Skill position players don't matter if Brady is getting killed, especially at his age

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Who can stop them?

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>O-line is weak
Shaq Mason is still the best at his position, Wynn looked good, Thuney is still good, no guarantee that Cannon is going to be hurt long term

>dbz
>naruto
literal baby-tier shonen

Because he is a delusional retard. If he watches college football I bet he'd say Alabama beating Duke 42-3 is also impressive.

What position does Shaq Mason play? It can't be right guard, since he wouldn't be the best there

Name a better right guard

Marshall Yanda, Zach Martin

Martin, Brooks, DeCastro, Yanda, Long

delusional little faggot

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See

lol come on dudes

absolute cazzie taste

He was wrong in every game. Great (((expert)))

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That's the taste of a middle schooler who just discovered anime. Probably watches in dub too
>reddit bay

>Every game
Wrong. He got LA and IND, plus he could get HOU

No he bet on the Colts.

He took the Colts +6.5 or whatever the line is.

retard.

What? You don't understand how point spread works? The actual winner pick is basically just a throwaway. Taking the point spread is how the betters make their money

>their oline is weak
They literally took a hot dump on the team that lead the league in sacks last year

Meanwhile, in reality

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>Pats lose a broken down Gronk to early retirement
>Pats replace him with Antonio Brown and Josh Gordon

There's literally no reason to watch the rest of this season. These faggots will go 19-0 because Eli won't be there to assfuck them in the Owl again.

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>Eli won't be there to assfuck them in the Owl again
*Giants Defense

Josh Gordon will get suspended before October and Antonio Brown will fight and fuck off

reporters are fags who just list the stuff they vaguely recognize, these guys aren't casuls

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Genuine question for old bay. Do you honestly believe the Ravens are the best team in the league right now?

He's gonna answer yes even though they beat the fucking Dolphins

All he does is look at the score.

>DeSean Jackson and Zach Brown talked about how mentally weak the Redskins are during halftime
Lmaoooooooooooo

Wishful thinking, Kiwinigger.

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i mean we know they are offensively but that d looks a little weaker so wait and see

Well I guess it will have to be 8-8 then

>The Ravens are the best team in the league offensively.

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>2014
DeSean Jackson will lose a step any day now
>2015
Jackson's gonna slow down this year
>2016
DeSean's losing it! Any day now
>2017
DeSean Jackson's bound to slow down this year
>2018
Okay THIS is the year he loses his speed
>2019
Its time. He's old. He's gotta slow down now
Why do I keep making this obviously wrong prediction?

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Pats will be fine but it wouldn't be a surprise to anyone if Josh Gordon gets suspended again. Or AB whines like a bitch for not getting targeted enough.

In reality Mason is a jabroni while Yanda and Martin are future Hall of Famers.

Yes. They dismantled their opponent so thouroughly that opposing players are demanding trades/releases.

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the reason most players drop off around 30 is because they are fucking lazy with shit diets who relied purely on genetics to make it to the league. The guys who take care of their bodies can maintain fitness until they hit 33-35

As of right now they are. Jackson took a literal shit on a pretty good secondary yesterday.

Yanda is like 12 years older than Mason. Mason has 3 rings and will have a stronger HoF case than Yanda by his age

>Iggles

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Lol, you are retarded

>their opponent
Who might be the worst team in the NFL

So, Mason gets in on the Rizzuto ballot? Le solid player carried by talent all around him? Glad you admitted it

>Carried by talent around him
What? By who?

Feels bad. Redskins front office is garbage and always lets their best players walk, to come back and rape em

Only people with double digit IQ's think championship rings are a factor in offensive linemen Hall of Fame credentials.

Shaq is as talented + having the rings

How do I filter Old Bay?

He needs 5 more TDs to tie Jerry Rice's 50+ yard record. He gets that and I can't see him not having a bust in Canton

So Big Ben is an AB baby?

Hines Ward and Santonio Holmes as well

I’m not worried about Cleveland

>Brady is just a Moss and Welker and Gronk baby

>more talented
>no pro bowls or all pros

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I'm not sure, his peak years really weren't that great, over 1100 yards only once and never 10+ TDs in a season, only 3X pro bowler

he's a lot like Frank Gore in that he's been good for a long time, but not really great. If DJax could put up 2-3 1200+ yard and 10 TD seasons with Wentz he could probably make it. WR is just hard to get into the HOF, especially with all the recent stat inflation

I'm going to sell my car and then bet that money plus my life savings on the pats beating the dolphins next week and then use my winnings to buy a nicer car.

He won 3 with the likes of Troy brown

Yeah, but his stats were shit and the defense carried him

The titans and browns game was actually pretty close if you ignore the score, browns had more yards but less rushing, they had a very even stay game, except for the fucking penalties, the browns will bounce back and win next Monday

>pro bowl
Retarded fag shit that had mitch trushitsky in it last year lmao
>all pro
A bunch of retarded fat sports writers that hate the pats and yearly snub players from it just because they do

>A bunch of retarded fat sports writers that hate the pats and yearly snub players from it just because they do

Why do bostonniggers have such an "us vs. the world" attitude?

don't reply to him

>old gay
>green gay
>gaysconsin
>gayron gaydgers

kek lol oh no!

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Because its true

He picked the redskins?

The Dolphins are so Trash, even the Orlando Apollos would give them a Run for thier money

>next week

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dont worry this week was just a fluke

I saw Mayfield was sacked 5 times and he threw three interceptions. That to me indicates the Browns O-line is dog shit. Your season is over Browns fans.

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>all 3 NFC South teams lose
Dont make it to ez for /us/

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>season is over
They will start playing 6 blockers instead of 5

Browns will be fine
They are going to trade for a lineman

>season already a 1/16th over
nice sport you plebeians

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Where did all those Browns shitposters go?

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Faker Gayfield still sucks

im still here

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Did Tom Brady receive adrenochrome therapy during the off-season?

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>that middle tooth

He doing some kind of juicing. I know that fucker is on some kind of roids.

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I told you all Gayker Gayfield was a turnover machine but you didnt listen.

Manziel > Mayfield

Dont @

Unironically true
Manziel had talent but was a mental headcase on a truly shit team with nothing
Put him on the current browns and he wins that game by 10

Thanks, AB.

t. SKEEEEEEUUUULP

Manziel was agile like a spider monkey
If he had the mental fortitude of Tom Brady he could have been great. But deep down he was a fucking pussy and couldn’t handle the money, the women, and the fame. He is lucky to still be alive

He’s always been a barely above average QB who is really good at scrambling. The only reason he ever looked elite was stellar defenses and amazing offensive weapons. Yesterday’s performance was his normal level.

Cannon bruised his shoulder
He'll be out next week because it's an easy win and then at 100% rest of season

Fuck the cheatriots

Suspended for what? They don't punish weed use anymore

Josh Gordon, Antonio Brown, and Jewlius Edelman will all get suspended again.

The more suspensions you give to the Pats the stronger they get. Don't you fucks ever learn?

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>The more suspensions you give to the Pats the stronger they get.

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People like to pretend that Manziel was a total abortion on the field because of his issues off of it, but he wasn't. He dropped nothing but dimes in a game against the Titans during the 2015 season. He also flashed in relief duty against the Bills around the same time, which was a team with a legitimate Super Bowl caliber defense.

Jimmy Haslam just has no idea how to run a team. Brett Favre nearly overdosed himself out of the league, but the Packers brass forced him to go to rehab. No reason Haslam couldn't have helped Manziel along those lines.

Other way around.

>Cowboys beat the fucking Giants, one of the worst teams in the NFL
>Analysts are already declaring the Owl favorites and calling Dak elite
Is there a more overhyped team? Like holy shit, any time these clowns win 1 game people act like they are the Patriots.

manziel couldnt read a defense or go through his progressions. if the first guy wasnt open, hed panic and scramble out of the pocket hoping someone would get open after the play dissolved then throw the ball up. thats his whole college highlight reel. he was never an nfl caliber qb.

>beating the giants
WOW! Nigga, a team of disabled school children could run a train on Eli and his hobbled ass team of flunkies

nfl gamepass or you can pirate games on torrentsites like tenyardtracker

Just finished watching both Patriots vs Steelers and Cardinals vs Lions. Some thoughts:

1. Steelers need to fire Donte Moncrief into the sun
2. Lions need to fire Taylor Decker into the sun
3. Steelers first half play calling was a complete fucking embarrassment. Have to make the Patriots defend the whole field and they didn't even try
4. That timeout by Darrell Bevell/Matt Patricia icing their own team when they could have easily converted the 3rd down to essentially win the game may cost them the locker room. Their next few games are brutal and they needed this win bad
5. When the fuck did Zane Gonzalez suddenly learn to kick?? Unsung hero in that comeback going 4/4 on field goals + the PAT
6. Kyler Murray went from having one of the worst first half performances I've ever seen to leading a genuinely inspiring comeback to tie the game. He had at least 4 batted passes in this game and that's something he better get used to because the dude is a genuine midget out there but damn he's got heart and a live arm
7. Larry Fitzgerald is a national treasure. I hope he plays until he's 40 like Jerry Rice. Made two incredible plays down the field in the second half + caught the last Touchdown in regulation
8. Patriots don't even need AB. Their WR corps is 100% as stacked as people were hyping it to be all off season and it makes me physically sick
9. WAKANDA FOREVAAAAAA

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Their media feeds it to them constantly

every week i have to listen to announcers ballgargle JUJU

his name is john. fuck off.

Moncrief had 4 drops. Dude's a bum.

As a cards fan who got up at 3am, fuck I'm happy with how Kyler came back from a truly dreadful 3 qtrs to tie that game

fuming Brock dropped that int

David Carr has a ring

Mfw AJ Brown

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>AB 1000 yards
>Josh Gordon 1000 yards
>Phillip Dorsett 1000 yards
>Julian Edelman 1000 yards
>Demaryius Thomas 1000 yards
>N'keal Harry 500 yards
>Jakobi Meyers 300 yards

Spoiler: AB will be out by week 5. Can't cure CTE.

Spoiler: AB was faking his crazy. Lads finna go OFF on Miami

Yeah but Tom Brady can’t throw TDs to himself, unlike Marcus Mariota
>MM: 1
>TB: 0
Suck it fag

Couldn't believe they kept throwing him the ball. Also did Randy Fichtner just completely forget Vance McDonald is on the team? Didn't see him get a single target

Yea the dropped int was painful. Would have been the perfect end to a classic detoilet meltdown if he'd hauled it in and they kicked the FG with 10 seconds left to win it

As for Kyler though what I loved most was watching him on the sidelines. Even when shit wasn't working or they had to settle for FGs he was so poised. Kept talking to Kliff and the WRs through it all

>you couldn't simply find anime on any channel
>[VHS tapes] also came out a month before the episodes would air on TV

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Thats because Brady would just drop it

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Someday jets fan. Someday. They’ll git gud again. I just want to see them finish at least 9-7, if that’s the most I can ask for

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Of course he was. 50% lower salary was his goal all along. Fiendish.

He only starting throwing INTs when the game was already lost. >we lost because of a field-and-a-half in penalties

15million cant buy a SB ring.

You lost because you were undisciplined and because the Titans were the better team. You had no answer for Derrick Henry and your O-Line was a sieve. Cameron Wake and Harold Landry basically set up shop in the Brown’s backfield and were living there rent-free.

Based and niggapilled

Are you seriously this childish? Do you think a ghetto rat like Antonio values a ring above $15 million?

Kevin Durant did the same thing. Turned down a much bigger salary to join a stacked team.

Dorsett or DT has to go to fit in AB's contract.

Risk reward m8.

You really think Fitzmagic cant pull out a 400 yard passing game? And no, you can’t base the entire season after week 1. People are already crowning the patriots champs, and have the dolphins with the #1 pick.

Durant became the second highest paid player in the league when he joined the Warriors. AB literally lost half his salary by being retarded. This is not comparable.

it isn't really 50% lower, especially with bow tenuous the original guarantees were shown to be

I’m such a nerd lol I go to see every marvel movie and I love yoda and chewbacca lol socially awkward lmao lol

>AB lost half his salary
For 2019 yes. 50 million over 3 years is like an average of 16.5

Just because he lost guerenteed money doesnt mean he lost that much value. He literally can make more than 50million if he wants in the 3 years if he does well on NE

Only if Brady stays healthy and consumes whatever evil elixir brewed by a witch in haiti made of assorted baby parts. Ithas to be devil magic no one should be playing better in their 40s than their 20s.

Dallas is officially BACK

Super Bowl rings are only about $50,000 and Antonio lost out on 20 million, not 15.

Chicanos are officially BACK

Just like in 2016 when they won the first seed right?

why are cowgirl fans such aggressive shitposters? you guys haven't won anything in decades

Manziel didn't have the self discipline or drive to be a professional QB. He Leafed himself. He'd be lucky to make it in the XFL. Chad Kelly is like that too.

>Beating Giants
>WE BACK!!!
Even Phillyfags aren't this delusional

yeah because we all know the pats don't pay under the table lol

> Black QBs winning left and right

wtf

Yea Forums told me this couldn't happen

you niggas mad as hell

nice leddit spacing

Thanks.

I worked hard on it.

Yea Forums is always wrong

The world renowned symbol of success, determination, and teamwork

A global brand and a national treasure

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Based. Can't wait to see our teams meet in the Owl this year.

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AFCN analysis

>Ravens
Probably the team to beat. Tho they aren't as good as they looked yesterday obviously, I don't think this offense will be top 10 by the end of the year, but they are a playoff team imo.

>Browns
Browns gonna Brown desu. They have a lot more talent but a lot more retards too. With a better culture a leadership I think they could weather a tough start and bounce back but if things get bad they're gonna go Chernobyl and it'll be hilarious.

>Bengals
Looked a lot better than expected. The new coach's offense seemed to fit Andy Dalton well. They left a lotta points on the field (missed FG, failed 4th down, etc). Should have won that game. Expect them to be in the mix for a playoff spot this year.

>Steelers
Total opposite of the Browns. They looked equally as terrible, but they actually have the leadership and culture to bounce back (assuming they really aren't this awful). I expect them to be much better and competing with the Ravens and Bengals as usual.

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Top fucking kek

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one xavien howard please :^)

>Top 8 Offense
>Top 6 Defense
>Top O-Line
>Weapons all across that offense.
>Deceptively good defensive front 7
>Best Linebacker Trio in the NFL
>A Good Will Hunting NFL Genius OC
>A NFL Coach
>A Secondary that looks like it is swarming all over the ball and will be the best Cowboys secondary in a long time.
>Great defensive coaches

I'm thinking 2 playoffs wins at least this season is very possible, guys.

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is tom brady the greatest NFL player in history regardless of position??

Anything less than a super bowl would be a disappointment

Yes.
Inb4 salty bawmer trash

No. Not even close.

>Cowboys are a Super bowl contender

Yea no shit. Only people who didn't already know this were delusional iggles fans

system babby not even top 50 QB

>jerry rice
>walter jones
>justin tucker
>ed reed
>walter payton

No.

>people actually thought steelers would beat the pats

i don't even believe it. they knew. they were telling everyone else to take the steelers so they could bet on the pats themselves.

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No because you can't compare players playing football in the year 2000 onwards to guys who played in the 40s-60s

It's essentially not even the same sport at this point

Official "worse fanbases" ranking.
>1. every single team in the nfc east.
>2. every single team in the nfc north.
>3. every single team in the afc north.
>4. saintsfags.
>5. patriot bandwagoners.
>6. chieffags.
>7. bandwangoners of other teams.

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>best LB trio
No matter how you look at it you are wrong

Looks like I got my "yes" in before the salty bawmer trash could name A KICKER without a hint of irony.

Why did the NFL forget the lesson"Never draft the Heisman winner."?

Nah, there are some otherworldly talents at other positions that never had his success. He is easily the most Clutch player off all time though

WE

Cam newton turned out alright

Not sure if serious.

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TICK TOCK GREEN GAY
ALMOST 1000 DAYS

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holy based

Sorry sir you have to beat a real team before you're back.

xPPP

Is Tom Brady the best QB of the Superbowl Era?

Yeah, Carson Palmer, Cam Newton, Lamar Jackson, Mark Ingram, and Derrick Henry are all shit...

This division is locked up already, Erin is old, Trubisket is shit, and the Lions are the Lions.

Not just NFL. He's the greatest athlete of all time in any sport.

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If I constantly made insufferable posts about >my team even when everyone knows they are shit and not a threat, would people like me?

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>Is Tom Brady the best QB

Yes

The NFC is pretty weak so just about everybody has a shot in that division.
Winning the NFC is akin to being the tallest midget.

Correct, they are.

>The NFC is weak
>But this other conference that has 1 or 2 teams always making the superbowl is much stronger

You are correct I should amend it to only include the QBs.

That would be Michael Phelps

Ebin xD

who is your team?

Did she die?

for me, it's the Tennis Sea Tight Aunt's all-Heisman backfield, featuring Marcus MariGOATa and Derrick Henry

HOL UP HOL UP
HOL UP
WE DEM BOYZ
AY
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WE DEM BOYZ

>the NFC could be 2-0 against the AFC in week 1

>1. patriots "fans"
>
>(POWER GAP)
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>(ANOTHER POWER GAP)
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>2. everyone else
fix'd

I lived right outside Boston for a couple of years in the mid-90's. Nobody liked the Patriots. You had Dolphin fans, Raiders fans, 49ers fans, etc. You could barely buy Patriot gear at the mall. They were invisible.

Patriot bandwagon fans are the lowest lifeform imaginable. They are literally the NPC meme. Absolutely disgusting.

No the greatest athlete ever was Jim Thorpe.
Saying Phelps is the best athlete is like saying Aquaman is best super hero.
Just no dumbass.

doesn't get any more redpilled than this

did that allegory actually make sense in your little raisin brain?

Hi why don't you make 80 threads with pictures of NFL players that say "for me, it's" like the bongs do to shit up the board?

Americans are posters of peace.

has a fanbase very been btfo as badly as the browns? keking my ass off at you rust belt poorshits

>Rumor: Antonio Brown may be signing a 4 year deal, contrary to what was previously reported as a 1 year deal. The contract would most likely end up voiding at the years end. This would be done in order to try and manage his cap hit for this year. As they don't have enough cap movement to even fit the size of the rumored 1 year contract according to the NFL's internal cap report.
>According to Boston Sports Journals' Greg Bedard speaking on Patriots Post Game

nobody cares go away

The Bungles gave the Shehawks all they could handle.
The Shehawks are considered the upper tier of NFC. The Bungles aren't considered anything.

This

Worst part is Patriots fans don't even know how cancerous they are. Anytime someone brings up Wes Welker or Asante Samuel all you'll ever hear them do is bitch and moan "oh they cost us a Superbowl" because they can't accept the fact the Giants were simply a better team than them in two different Superbowls

Yea Forums is an American sports board we can do what we want you yuroshitters need to deal with it

based schizo

That comparison puzzled you? Takes all kinds.

I think you mean Don Bradman

>multiple dolphins players asking for a trade after a game
so, it's kinda obvious that they're tanking, shouldn't the nfl look into this?
anyways, everybody facing them is getting a free win

Who will hand the cowshitters their first loss?

you got a source for that?

>Patriots added an option year for Antonio Brown in 2020 at $20 million which becomes guaranteed if executed, per source. It was done to help for cap proration purposes this season.
>@AdamSchefter

OH NONONONONONONONONO
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH HIM FOR 2 YEARS?!?!?!?!1?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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This

i don't think they're dumb enough to let that roll, so i'd imagine they're doing damage control as we speak

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what a dumpster fire yikes

Is it a team or a player option?
Very important difference.

Team

The greatest athlete ever was Pat Tillman SEMPER FI RESPECT THE TROOPS

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Oh ok that's good, basically means this was done purely for cap purposes then.

Even if true the WR room is way to crowded. They have some time and the situation may sort itself out by the time Harry comes back but atm One of Dorsett and DT is going to go.

Let Cam take them to the owl, then bring the man back, give him another chance.

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he probably has a beer gut by now

Tillman wasn't a Marine.

oh damn he's getting more money than if he hadn't got released I never saw this coming

1. Rivers
2. Manning
3. Roethlisberger
4. Losman

This is the only true order

HOLY FUCKING BASED POST!!!

EVIL

FUCKING

GENIUS

Legit 500IQ

Forgot my PICTURE

Antonio Brown is a supervillain
A fucking SUPERVILLAIN

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If he had been he'd still be alive

I think it was Broncos and Seahawks. Broncos-Jags 2013 set the record for highest spread (-26.5), though the donkeys didn’t cover

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
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Patriots added an option year for Antonio Brown in 2020 at $20 million which becomes guaranteed if executed, per source. It was done to help for cap proration purposes this season.

>3peat incoming lads

panthers.com/video/jake-delhomme-has-an-announcement-to-make
HOLY FUCKING BASED

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>dont play a single down for them
>still force at least 500K out of their pockets
Has a single organization ever been as insultingly fleeced as the Raiders?

It was technically four

Only beef I have with this is that he only plays on one side of the ball

This thread is for Americans only, please refer to any of the divegrass threads now available. Thank you

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t. NPC fan

Pats will get the one seed

Choofs will get the Brady seed

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Most likely DT gets cut when Harry comes back.

Manziel got sacked 5 times by the bills

Pats will dress 9 wide recievers and average 8 touchdowns per game

You can't stop it

Dorsett is too entrenched in the offense at this point and Brady trusts him as a relatively deep threat. DT would be on the chopping block if one has to go.

twitter.com/espn/status/1170923493581565952/video/1
Literally seething lol

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>ratbirds
>good
Lmao the dolphins didn’t even try

FRIENDLY REMINDER!
>tom brady and Giselle practice black magick

This!

letting the days go by

(let the water hold me down)

letting the days go by

(water flowing underground)

into the blue again

(after the money's gone)

once in a lifetime

(water flowing underground)

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Kek losing nick foles was the greatest thing for the jags

>He was wrong in every game.
No? He's 2-2 for the week. The Chargers only won by 6, meaning he beat the spread there which was +6.5 for the Colts. Same with the Rams winning by more than 1.5.

So 2-2, and could still win the Saints/Texans. Keep in mind that Colin's final score predictions are ALWAYS wrong, the important thing is his bet against the spread.

You are forgetting all the fines he accrued while in Oakland idiot

>Pats offered a 1 to the Steelers for Brown
>used the Raiders 3 and 5 instead

Raiders got bent over badly and they honestly deserve it.

more like they practice BLACKED magic

>860k- 300k in fines = 560k

Fuck off old gay

PENIS

500k is the possible 800k he's getting - the 300k fines.

>jets
>falcons
>steelers
>browns
>patriot fanbase
>jaguars
>bears
>colts
>lions
>cardinals
>eagles
>redskins
>giants
>panthers
>bucs

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Stop taking the bait, he's merely pretending to be retarded.

So that's the expectations you have of you're team? 2 play off wins and not even super bowl? Lol

Will he come out of retirement alongside Gronk?

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>R*ddit bay
>nigger QB
LMAO

Gonna be a fun division same with the NFCN

I own Lameme in fantasy. Should I sell high after this week?

>throw less than 100 yds
>Still win the game
based boomer coach

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>The new coach's offense seemed to fit Andy Dalton well
It did for that game, but having him throw 50 times a game isn't a good long-term plan. They need to work harder to give Bernard and Williams some room to work with next week (assuming Mixon will miss a game due to the ankle).

If they can work a trade for Dorsett I think they will make it. I think it will be DT that goes though.
By the time Harry comes back the Gunner /Meyers thing should work itself out. If they are both producing Harry stays on IR unless one of the big 4 flames out or is injured.

Better hope Dalvin cook actually makes it halfway through the season for once

*is based in your path*

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They are going to be facing teams that are actually trying going forward so that would be the wise choice.

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How bad will the Toxins get btfo today

>Steelers guard Ramon Foster was more verbose than Roethlisberger but had the same approach.

>“Please don’t ever ask me about him again,” Foster said, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. “I ask that respectfully.”
They're so traumatized by that game and AB's story that they can't even bare to speak of him.

based

Based.

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i think boone can do just as good as dalvin if he gets a chance

>there are no "bad" teams in the AFCE

Old man Brees about to be styled on by Deshaun.

i need a webm of that play burger got sacked but he was open to run the ball into the endzone but since he's so fuckin fat he wont ever run

>there are no "bad" teams in the AFCS

>Archie reacts the same way
>They both internalize their emotions, even the joy of watching Peyton succeed
>Eli takes after his dad
Cute asf t b h

>Lolphins

There are no good teams outside of the AFCE

>There are no "bad" teams in the NFCW

Pats fans are as emotional and dramatic about their team as any other teams fans. Even if the Patriots succumb to mediocrity after Brady and Belichick they'll still stick around saying they've got the best team each year like Cowboys fans do.

Imagine getting to play the Dolphins, Bills and Jets twice a year forever.

Cousins can make clutch throws but he's better as a game manager. This is the perfect system for him.

They play the cardinals this week though. Should I wait for him to potentially put up back to back stellar performances against teams that may not win a game?

>everybody praising Tomlin after the Raiders released Brown
>that praise doesn't get a chance of reaching media time due to Brown signing with the Patriots about one hour after his release
>sunday night football happens
>everybody's already shitting on Tomlin again
lmao

Imagine rating the Texans

Imagine getting to play the Jags, tits, and Toxins twice a year.

Why are boomer comics so cringe? Not even specifically about the Pats here, just in general

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Jackson is a top 5 fantasy QB and top 10 NFL QB

>84 million guaranteed for a game manager

OH NO NO NO NO

Only because he looked good against a high school level professional football team.

Tomlin deserved to be shit on anyway for that embarrassment of a game, the AB situation just adds another layer of delicious irony to it.

Nah. Cardinals won't throw away the game and Suggs probably knows a thing or two about Jackson.

I feel like those teams have been to the playoffs more in the last two seasons than Fins, Bills and Jets have in the last 20 seasons.

That's how bad the AFCE is.

Jackson is a

N

I really really like green gay

The Tardinals offense will give LaMeme a ton of chances.
If the def is competent he won't do much. I don't know anything about their D so take a look.

>he ignores how the colts have just as high of an interdivisional win rate as the patriots
kek
The AFCS is just as bad if not worse.

The jets went back to back in 2009-2010 thanks to a shutdown defense

>doodoo shit-pooster as a number 1 receiver

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>nobody mentions the colts
>seethe over them anyway
Anybody can cause butthurt when they’re good but it takes a special kind of team to make people butthurt when they’re bad

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imagine getting to play the Giants, Redskins, and Cowboys, twice a year, forever

Imagine getting to play the Jets, Bills and Fins twice a year and every few years getting the Texans, Jags and Titans.

You're not helping your case.

>le ebin cuck may may

Go back to sportsnation

It’s not nearly as bad, early on the Titans had McNair who is one of the most underrated qbs ever and the Texans have won the division several times lately. Only the jags have mostly been awful.

Based

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Imagine having a 6'5 250 lb QB that can't get you a yard

>there are no "bad" teams in the AFCE

This is your mind on Patriots.

Who's getting canned first, Tomlin or big Ben?

Imagine getting to play the Jags, Tits, and Toxins twice a year and every few years getting the Dolphins, jets, and bills.

You aren't helping YOUR case.

Nigger I'm a Saints fan lol.

>i dont know a hole in the ground from my ass but here is my opinion anyway

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Texans are elite

*wins and makes Yea Forums seethe

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Nah, the colts were good, but it also helps that they got to trash on a really shitty division.

He could, but Patriots just held a team generally thought to be pretty good at worst to 3 points. Now maybe the Steelers are actually awful and will win 5 games but still nobody thinks they’re worse than the Fins.

Fitzgerald will have a few good games but probably not against the Pats.

>there are no 'bad' teams

Why did Philly get rid of Bennett.

both need to go, order doesn't matter, just soon

Wrong #8

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>there are no "bad" team in the AFCS
This is your mind on Colts.

Black QBs are a meme until proven otherwise. They always ride on their physical talent and once they get figured out they flame out because they’re not smart enough to adapt and analyze in real time.

Rivers is 0-8 against Brady

>hard R
that's a yikes from me

>people complain about the AFCE getting ran over by the patriots
>patriots play a top tier AFC team
>smoke them 33-3

ah yes, you're right. it's just the division that's shit. i'm sure the patriots would struggle in any other division

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What do we do about the Fatricia problem?

My white son Carson James Wentz looked like he is returning to form yesterday :)

You aren't cultured enough to understand them

They are, too bad they'll never be coached properly to show it

Philly has depth at the position and Bennett was the older and more expensive player in that group

Shhhhh lad let them seethe it's funnier that way

>steelers
>top tier
nigger what lol they absolutely collapsed this offseason

>returning to form

So IR by week 10?

>there are no "bad" teams in the AFCE

Money and he didn't want to be part of a rotation

>There are no "bad" teams in the AFCS

Tomlin's playcalling was unusually conservative last night. Does he doubt his team's ability without Bell and Brown or was he just extra dumb?

*instills fear in your QB*

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Name a single good team in the AFC thats not the Patriots

you can't

acquire intercourse

Divisional power rankings since 2002

1. NFC East: has consistent double digit win teams
2. AFC East: bad but the Pats buoy them so much
3. AFC North: would be 1 if not for the clowns
4. NFC South: good teams but all inconsistently win
5. NFC West: had a bad lull in the early to mid 2000s and routinely lose in the owl
6. AFC West: another mediocre division that occasionally has a good team
7. AFC South: mostly bad teams outside the occasional Colts run
8. NFC North: when was the last time this division even had an impressive team? The 15-1 Packers who got knocked out? Outside of a miracle run from the Packers in 2010, not a good division

that's not what everyone's been saying. Ben has calmed down, worked more with recievers, they've cut out the cancer in the lockerroom

It was the way we did it. We have a modern offense now.

You fool. You don't realize the Eagles planned ahead for that. Everyone knows Wentz has an injury bug, right? And we all know his savior is one Nick Foles? What if the Eagles, perchance, cured Wentz? At what cost? Nick wanted to be the man of his own team, but knew Wentz was their star, so in return for being released as a free agent, he vowed to help the Eagles by absorbing Wentz's injury bug. Wentz won't get injured because Nick Foles already got his injury.

>we x 2

>Reporter: “Ben, your thoughts on Antonio Brown joining these guys now?”
>Roethlisberger: “Whatever.”
kek

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>his teams QB didn't throw for 300 yds in the first half against the leagues no. 1 defense

sad

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This. Foles sacrificed his own body to heal Wentz.

i honestly can't even name 3 steelers players off the top of my head. the ones i think of have probably left.

Yo NFL, y'all ready for 15 more weeks of raw anal penetration by the biggest D in the league? Buck and Co. Is here to fuck. Pepper your angus bitch niggas.

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KC didn't play the Pats this weekend silly.

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YUH
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HOL UP
HOL UP HOL UP
WE DEM BOYZ WE DEM BOYZ
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HOL UP
HOL UP HOL UP
WE DEM BOYZ WE DEM BOYZ

patriots unironically have the best defense and offense in the league

you are lucky you played the lowest IQ qb in the league

>pepper your angus

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I think the Bears defense might be better, but their offense is awful.

It’s over. The Cowboys Patriots SB confirmed. Dak > TB12*

Both

What is the single season record for fewest points allowed?

>jags
>league's no. 1 defense
what fucking year is it

you are in denial nerd Cowboys are a top 3 team

Cowboys actually are one of the few teams that matches up well, they have a good pass rush, a qb that rarely causes turnovers and a workhorse back that can chew the clock.

What do you consider a nice car?

>Pepper your angus

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>bagging about beating this
Oh no, so scary

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maybe a top 3 in sucking and also being gay lmao

1977 Falcons. Went 7-7 due to a godawful offense.

For a 16 game schedule as well I believe it’s the 2000 Ravens

You are lucky your team didn't play the full on rapist train that is the best D-Line in football perhaps in many years, perhaps of the 21st century.
Das rite bish. Nice and peppery.

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>Tampa Gay
>Failcunts
>Brownies
>Jags
Which team got exposed the hardest yesterday? It seems to me like their seasons are over already

a 2014 kia optima

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BOYYYZZZZ

The Browns, given that there wasn't a whole lot of hype for the other 3 teams, especially the Bucs, who were largely pegged to be NFCS cellar dwellers.

>be pats fan
>have friend who hates the patriots and all new england teams
>says hell be online after last nights game
>patriots absolutely shred the stoolers
>friend doesnt get on
>mfw i see him today

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Exposed? The Falcons definitely, Matt Ryan looks lost. The Browns are a very close 2nd. The Jags didn’t look awful, and Tampa Bay was expected to be awful

Solid

>Tampa Gay
not really exposed because no one expected much of them
>Failcunts
mildly exposed; it's the fucking kirk cousins vikings. if the failcunts are a playoff team they have to beat bad teams like the vikings
>Browns
Probably most exposed, they were very hyped up to be a possible AFC contender but they looked very undisciplined and Mayfield seemed either lost or angry and forced bad plays
>Jags
honestly? probably the least exposed. put up a decent fight (against what is probably either the best or second best team in the AFC) despite BEWD getting injured.

Browns or Jags. They didn't play very good opponents while Tampa got destroyed by the best defense in football but have talent and will gel into a very good Arians system and the failcons likewise have deep talent on the offensive side of the ball and need to work out early season kinks.

The AFC looks like a complete fucking JOKE this year. The Eagles, Cowboys, Saints, or Seahawks will probably steamroll anyone who comes outta the AFC.

which team do muslims support?

>jags
>didn’t play a good opponent
The Chiefs are a top 5 team.

Niners played a literal ape who would be murdering albinos for their magic powers in Africa if his great great granddad didn’t get on the boat. Don’t get too excited.

Browns, from sexy playoff pick to getting shit stomped in your own home by the fucking Titans.

>Tynig Hill headed to IR
Lmao

cope

Lions

>Colin calling Baker, the Browns, and Cleveland flat out stupid

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Baltimore Ravens

Wait, so, the Raiders, and NFL team that wants to win games, released the third best wide receiver in the league, all because he was complaining to the league office about not being able to use the helmet that he's used to using? And they got into a catfight with him for no reason and then released him for no reason? Am I getting this right?

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harsh but accurate

Cope harder and dilate because we coming for that ass

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If the foo shits.

Is Winston getting benched?

the whole thing was a show so he'd be released. he didn't want to play for the raiders.

Yes. Mike MAYOck is the worst GM in football. Hands down.

He was a cancer. Cancers need to be eradicated.

Jimmy G is ass, he couldn’t barely throw on a porous Tampa defense

This level of Jags cope. Their """"elite defense"""" immediately chimped out and even with Big Dick Nick they would have stood no chance

this is the worse boomer meme I have ever seen.

No, its not really his fault. There's nothing you can do against a defense that filthy.

My dad used to work in for the Bears FO in the 80s. He's hearing from people that Tampa Bay is actively looking to acquire Trubisky from the Bears. He's hearing they offered Winston and a 2nd so far but Bears won't budge until they get a first.

Nah
They'll release him at the end of the season

they are worried about giving too many players under-the-table money.

Trading shit for shit is still a bad trade

They’re still probably a 9-7 team if they can get anything out of Minshew

Why not trade him, at the very least. Like, obviously they should have just let it go and kept him, but why release him? Surely they'd get something other than literally nothing if they traded him.

>implying receivers need TD receptions

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Imagine thinking you can get a first for Trubisky.

Yes, he is. Though there are people at other positions who are comparably hardworking and talented, he's the best.

Who else officially /patshater/ now? I was never really butthurt about them even when they picked off Russ in the SB (that was more on the Hawks anyways) but the Antonio Clown trade finally put me over the edge. I would even root for the Rasms if it came down to both of them in the SB again. They really can't keep getting away with these kind of moves

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would anyone have traded for him with his hissy fit going on? i don't like the guy but he played everyone like a fiddle and got exactly what he wanted out of it. pretty based for that reason alone.

happens every fucking year

Lol the niners did pfffft ahahahahahaha
Because MAYOck has a raging hard step-dad dick who thinks he has to flex at every opportunity because deep down he knows he's the biggest cuck on the block and has to answer to his HC.

t-t-t-rubsky is turning it around dough

No way, their Defense is done. I saw it happen with the LOB and it's happening again. Their division is pretty weak but they also have absolutely no offense. They are lucky if they get 6 wins this season. Screencap this!

Who jerbaited their old team harder:

Antonio Brown or Kawhi Leonard?

MAD at the colin?
youtube.com/watch?v=2UAxO-qtERk

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Not his old team but Kawhi wrecked the Lakers entire season

>you now remember Ramsey talking shit about QBs
has there ever been a more hilarious one year wonder?

>thinking wentz will stay healthy

I don’t think the defense is 2017 quality but a lot of defenses are going to get beat up by Mahomes

Redpill me on the AFC and NFC, why don't they just make hierarchy league with relegation and promotion?

Clearly teams want him. You don't think some team would be willing to cough up a late round pick at the least to keep him from going to the Pats? He's a fucking all-pro receiver, if he gets on the field for one game he's worth more than a practice squad player.

That’s not how we do things in sports. Americans have no interest in rooting for minor league teams, they usually have awful attendence and are propped up by a major league club.

Lakers have been shit for almost 10 years now. You could argue The Spurs rebuilt strategy was centered around Kawhi.

That's because Bellicheck litterally had spies on the inside of the Bills, Jets, and Dolphins. I think it was way more than merely videotapes but getting play books, player evaluations, ect. He was basically able to use teams like the Bills a minor league team to snipe talent.

I've lived in Massachusetts my entire life. You are full of shit. Bledsoe was a household name, and there were still Patriots fans everywhere even in the 90's.

Zoomers and casuals on this board seem to forget that the Bledsoe Patriots were actually a decent team. They were not the "invisible" joke you're making it out to be. They were an average to above average franchise in the decade before Brady arrived. The Patriots weren't truly irrelevant except in pre-90's era.

So I call utter bullshit on your claim to have lived here. I grew up watching Drew Bledsoe, every kid in my school knew who Bledsoe was. Acting like Patriots fans ONLY started supporting the team after Brady came onto the scene is fucking retarded and a lie.

Based.

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Didn't you hear? Foles took the Wentz injury curse with him

You never realize how large those endzone decals are

His baggage makes him difficult to have any trade value. I do not know the details of his contract but if the Raiders held on to him hoping to land a deal with a naive team they would've ended up with dead cap space just like the Steelers.

foles also had a history of injuries they needed each other to complete a year

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Not a lot of defenses chimp out and collectively lose their minds in the first game of the season though

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Based Seahawks still scaring anons on 4channel

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The NFL existed first and then in the early 60s the AFL was formed and at first they were basically a minor league talent wise, but as time went on they attracted (paid out the ass for) more and more elite talent. It got to the point that a serious argument could be made that the AFL champion was as good or better than NFL champion (also the AFL played a more wide open aggressive game) so by the close of the decade the first super bowls were played between the AFL and NFL champions. The NFL won the first two, but the AFL jets won the third. Soon after the leagues merged into the NFL but the conferences became the AFC and NFC in homage to the pre merger leagues. There's only 32 teams for a very large country so that's not enough for relegation. If, perhaps there were 100 teams it could work with tiers of 32, 34, 34 or some such, but it is incredibly expensive to field a football team of 53 fully geared players and pay all the medical expenses. Plus you have to compete with college ball.

they just gave him a $20 million option for next season

Did you watch that guy Gardner Minshew play? He held himself decently considering he was facing the Chiefs D.

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I mean the Chiefs D might be terrible to be fair.

Sure, I understand that, but I can't imagine there'd be no team willing to give up the bare minimum in a trade to ensure they get him, instead trying to sign him once he's a FA.

>Seahawks
Xehawks beat the Bungles by 1 point through no fault of their own, they had to rely on fuckups to save them

>if you dont let black QBs you're an edgy racist
Go back to re/eddit fag

Kawhi literally didn't owe the Lakers anything. Antonio Brown should have honored his contract.

Chiefs D is probably awful but yes he didn’t play bad, and Jags D lost that game for them.

Jags headed into serious “season from hell” territory after living that last year

It was 10-7 when Foles got hurt and Jack got ejected. Changed the entire tone of the game.

yep, i'm thinkin it's time for another wild card run bros

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Seattle has to be up there. Basically >Reddit the fan base

At this point the smart play would be to just have him assassinated to save face. Would be easy to make it look like a suicide with all his manic drama online.

You now remember that currently two staring quarterbacks in the nfl were both the second and third string qbs behind Brady.