How does a franchise this old not have on single elite QB in its history?
How does a franchise this old not have on single elite QB in its history?
Cutler was elite. You've been brainwashed by the ESPN experimental trials to see if they could shift popular opinion on somebody with no substance behind it
Maybe you were living under a rock in 2017
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Is that captain "C" photoshopped on?
Sid Luckman, thread over
>zoomer
the same way the Bucs, Seahawks, Lions, Vikings, Cardinals, Falcons, and Rams don't.
>Sid Luckman
Yeah I don't think so big guy
Only one of those teams older than Chicago is Arizona. Which did have an elite QB, Warner.
> 4× Champion
> 5× All Pro
> 3× All star
>NFL MVP
>Pro Football HOF
Warner was a top 10 QB on the Cards but he was only really ELITE during that 3 year stretch for the Rams which is probably the greatest 3 year stretch for any QB ever all things considered.
>Seahawks
QB rating is literally a fake stat that means nothing, and has no actual logic or application behind it. Russel Willson is Alex Smith who can throw a better deep ball
>plays against auto mechanics, shoe salesmen and grocery store baggers in your path
>QB rating is literally a fake stat that means nothing
ok then buddy what's a good measure of eliteness?
Winning championships. Simple as
>being this ignorant
Faggot
Interceptions.
It's the only measurement to see if a QB has the balls to go deep
>Nick Foles > Dan Marino
Ah, a brainlet zoomer. I feel embarrassed taking such obvious bait now.
Is Brett Favre the real GOAT? I can get by with this Tbh
Having an entire offense run through you, elevating inferior talent because the offense is being run through you, and generally being the #1 reason as you why your team has a chance of winning that weeks game. A nerd making up a metric where you arbitralliary get fake "points" depending on numerous facts like RAC and prioritizing a run based checkdown laden opffense, while completely ignoring game situations will lead to a stat where Marcus Mariotta, Colin Kaepernick, Andy Dalton and Kirk Cousins are top 20 all time
uhhh
I know no one will ever change your blind hatred of Wilson but Id just like to state the championships are kinda a team accomplishment. Sure, the QB is the most important piece but he isnt the only piece. Wilson has a ring when the team was elite and now that the team isnt elite any longer he still puts up pretty great numbers despite having, from what Ive seen, one the worst offensive lines the past 2-3 years.
How much of a faggot do you have to be to not respect Russell Wilson's greatness?
The team has a bad O-Line because Wilson is too short to be a pocket passer and therefore wasting money when you need an offense that is heavily focused on 1-2 read play action, and roll outs would be a tremendous waste of money and cap space that could be used at other positions. The Seahawks front office is actually very intelligent unlike their retarded fanbase of transexuals, and realize this which is why they have been a consistently competetive franchise for basically the past decade
Please grandpa, tell us all the wonderful moments you shared with friends and family as you gathered around the telly to watch the good ole chicago Bears and see the great sid luckman throw the pigskin.
I'm sorry that I understand football more than what ESPN tells me to think
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ur mom gay
>unlike their retarded fanbase of transexuals
el atrocidad homosexuál reveals himself
Can I ask specifically what you dislike about his game? yea I get that he takes bad sacks sometimes playing hero ball but think your expectations are sky high. Theres like 26-27 teams right now that take wilson over their current starter.
Jesus christ
You should unironically kill yourself
I don't dislike anything about his game, he's a perfect QB for the style of offense they want to run, and the style of football Carroll likes to play. Extremely mobile, smart with the ball, can make plays with his legs, and throws a great deep ball to capitalize on their 4-5 shot plays per game. He's perfect for their system, but thats all he is. He's not elite, he can't carry a team, he's not gonna throw 40 passes a game and drag a team to victory due to his talent like a Rodgers or Brees or Brady, or ever be the focal point of the offense like someone like Newton is. He's a literally perfect example of a system QB, but that doesn't make you elite.
Seattle is just as gay and you know it
>le fake injuries in the NFCCG at home vs the pack and standing in the sidelines keking at his team getting rekt man
No they aren't. That's just a shitty meme Yea Forums throws around because they found some pictures of one tranny waving 12 flags and wearing seahawks merch. You can find the same exact thing for any other team if you're autistic enough to look for it.
San Francisco is literally the gayest city in America, and that's a fact. If you wanted to talk shit about Seattle, you'd bring up latte drinking millennials and heroin junkie hobo camps.
I can see where youre coming from but I feel the line between being a system qb and an elite one is blurred here. You dont think Brady and Brees have systems in place to play to their strengths too? Guess this is all a moot point since we're basically in agreement. Is Wilson a better Qb than typical prototype qbs (Rodgers, Brady, Brees)? No. Is he still a great Qb? I think so, and I do think Wilson is capable of taking over games and stealing wins like Brady and Brees, it'll just look different than how those guys do it.
You now remember Brees played for the chargers
Height.
Rodgers Brees and Newton elevate their teams bro. Look at all the championships they've won because of how high they push their teams bro. They did all the work that's why they've never had losing seasons bro.
>he isn't as good as 3 of the best QBs in history so he isn't great
Are you like 12 years old or a Broncos fan or something? Or retarded? What is the deal here?
The easiest way I can explain myself to you is this.
The Seahawks are 11-14-1 when Wilson attempts 35 or more passes.
The Seahawks are 29-6 when Wilson attempts 25 or less passes
There is not a single ELITE QB ever who has a split like this.
Take Newton out of there and I can agree. Wilson is definitely as good as Scam, if not better.
>the QB throws less passes when the team is winning
Wow that is some really impressive advanced statistics there Einstein.
Brady
Brees
Mahomes
Rodgers
Rivers
Roethlisberger
Newton
Luck (RIP)
Watson
Ryan
All of these QBs had far more responsibilities, far more complex offenses, and far more impact on their teams success than Wilson does. You can replace Wilson with someone like Dak Prescott and theres not gonna be giant drop off.
Go find a single other QB with those splits
All that means is that he's efficient, which is true and you'd see it if you weren't a biased retard.
Go find a single QB with those splits
>he's not elite
Bigger what? And this comes from someone who hates the xehawks
You want me to go look up every QBs win/loss ratio with throwing over 34 passes and less than 25 passes? I'd rather put my fuckin nutsack in a blender.
cool thats what i thought
Shhh don't agitate the autist.
Russell Willson has the best record in history when throwing between 22 - 27 passes when playing against teams whose first letter of their names is in the middle 17 letters of the Alphabet when the temperature on the field is between 45.7 degrees and 72.8 degrees. Find a QB who comes close I dare you.
Not throwing daily reminders
Imagine being so obsessed with an athlete that doesn't know you exist that the mere fact he's currently the 10th best player at his position and you can't prove otherwise sends you into this amount of histrionics
lol how is that relevant though? He's efficient, it doesn't matter how many times he chucks the ball if he gets the job done. that meaningless """stat""" is a product of their play calling, not his ability. If they deviate from the norm, it makes sense they're losing more games; correlation does not imply causation.
i'll take everybody else's word over some biased armchair qb on Yea Forums. The fact of the matter is, you're just a salty bitch and should focus more on your team's future draft prospects.
Understanding why that would matter would require an IQ that has 3 digits which is not to be expected from the NFL equivalent of the Fortnite fanbase
Russ is currently ranked 3rd according to the NFL and well under 10th according to every other fucking metric. Face it, pal. You're just a wee widdle baby mad becuz xehawcks bad!
a person with triple digit IQs would understand efficiency
A person would a triple digit IQ would understand the difference between completing 11 passes and 37 in regards to which player had more of an impact on the game and was important to his teams success. No you can either say that Andy Dalton has consistently been a top 10 QB his entire career or admit that Wilson isn't. Up to you.
Imagine being so autistic you don't understand sarcasm. Feel sorry for ya famalam.
Imagine being so retarded you don't even know what histrionics means
would you pick the guy with 11 passes and 3 TDS or the guy with 37 passes , 1 TD and 2 INTs?
You have the argumentative abilities of an 8 year old asking why the government doesn't just print more money to give it to poor people
>imajin u no no big word I use, me smart
California IQ, everyone
not an argument
>NFL equivalent of the Fortnite fanbase
Andy Dalton is a top 10 QB and has been his entire career
>NFL equivalent of the Lady Gaga and Cher fanbase
I think this means he's the greatest game manager QB of all time.
>doubting Matt Hasselgoat
>Cutler was elite
Fucking kek.
For the 40s the fact he has a positive td to int ratio alone is elite. He was very much elite
I was gonna post this
How many franchises have had an elite QB? The Giants have like 4 superbowls and have never had one.
his name is literally in the word
Trubitchsky is shit.
>forgetting about Rax
Them dragons!
>ctrl+f
>rax
>it's the most recent post
wew. thank you.
>Cutler was elite.