Are defenders getting better ? You don't see them getting destroyed as much now

Liverpool's record improved because they went from a back 5 of:

Mignolet

Gomez Lovren Matip Moreno

to

Alisson

TAA Matip Van Dijk Robertson

Quite why people put it all down to Van Dijk I don't know. Even before he joined Klopp had started making moves by bringing in TAA and Robertson and changing how Liverpool defend by not sending both fullbacks forward at the same time.

Because forwards are shit now

>leaving out the 3 DMs covering the back line
Idiot

It's not all Van Dijk but he was the biggest reason for the greatest defensive turnaround in English football in recent memory. Recognizing that contribution with a player of the year award isn't exactly a crime against humanity.

What I meant to say is you have to go back more than 10 years to find a better defensive performance than VVD this year.

no.
why ? remeber back then defenders wanted to kill you and take the ball from you , ok you passed me ? i will take your leg with me.

just ask maradona

also tactics improved by 200% in the last 20 years

The Van Djik hype is similar to the Neuer hype a few years ago. Everyone just wants someone else win Ballon D'or and it will look very cringe looking back in a few year (Modric ahem)

Van Djik is a quality CB but the hype that is magically transforms teams and is literally playing like a Terminator T1000 programmed with footballing skills is ridiculous.

He very much benefits from the teams style implemented by Klopp, and the protection he receives from his midfielders and fullbacks. The no dribbles stat is a fucking meme because Van Djik positions himself so deep that he only needs to clear balls that have spilled through 7 Liverpool players or he just backs away until he is behind the goal line or until he runs into another Liverpool defender to crowd him out.

Spamming 60m long balls for Ngubu's to chase works because they are very clinical but fucking anyone can do that shit

Do you only watch Liverpool/City?

Marketing, you fucking retard. Do you actually think the balloon door is anything other than a popularity contest?

Literally Ramos mate

Samuel and Lucio for Inter in 09/10
Ramos and Pique for Spain and their clubs throughout the 2010s
Boateng 5-6 years ago

he is, and by a country mile

>this sand nigger

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chiellini-ramos-godi-pique are the best defenders in the last 15 years and nobody even comes close

>Marketing, you fucking retard.
It was a rhetorical question you fucking retard.

>comparing van dyke to a bunch of other defenders is a rhetorical question
Based retard

reactionism isn't cool or edgy. koulibaly been consistent for 5 years, while van dyke was getting spun by martial , playing for saints

Waaaah he scored an own goal his career is finished now

Koulibaly hasn't won a single thing of note in his career and Van Dyke has been good since his days at Celtic.

He got dominated by higuain, he couldn't stop higuain, higuain, higuain

People forget Van Dijk conceded 4 goals in a ucl semi final against fucking Roma. Liverpool did NOT improve overnight because of him

Rare brother

roma was better than barca that year

And Napoli can't even get to a CL semi-final so why are you acting like Roma are a shit team and Napoli aren't?

What does this have to do with napoli?

he definitly is. koulibaly is an active defender, he will intervene unlike van dijk who pretty much only run along side forwards.

I think u have replied to the wrong person

Sorry I got you muslims mixed up, my bad

van dijk joined liverpool in 2018 winter transfer
didn't prevent liverpool from conceding a lot of goals

np bro

the issue here is liverpool were a lot worse defensively than all those teams before vvd came to anfield

They were also worse before Robertson, Matip and TAA, what's your point?

De lete > van dijk

Unless your argument is that vvd didn't contribute as much to improving the defense as much as those three, i'm not sure why you're mentioning them. the argument is vvd vs other defenders. not liverpool's back 4 vs real madrid's and atletico madrid's back 4. if you want to have that argument thats fine.

>try to claim vvd magically made liverpool solid at the back
>point out it was actually the fact they replaced their entire defense
>hurrrrr we aren't talking about the whole defense
You're retarded. If VVD was the only change to the trash they had before they would still concede shit loads of goals

>Look at my sample size of one game!

ABLs out in full force today. Thanks for the attention lads.