Tfw the two countries that care the most about football will never win a World Cup again

But user if our teeth are that bad won’t they crack on their own? I’m here all week

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sodas are cheap, and lots of delicious greasy food, same shit as with the americans

UMA DELÍCIA

Mexican food is pretty delicious, tbf. Can't blame them for being fat fucks.

Hahaha this gotta be bait, we're better than you in every single way at
Football
Hockey
Rugby
Basketball
Volleyball
Tennis (assuming you're Scottish then no)
Swimming
Rowing
Polo
I could continue if I wanted to, what sports are bongs actually good at outside football?literally none, so pathetic

I'm pretty sure bongs got you beat in Olympics (cylcing, t&f, swimming, athletics in general) and the most important sports i.e. combat sports (box and mma).

those are black immigrants, not real bongs

Yeah but in real life the real Football fanatics are the english, no one tops their stadium attendance.

2026 will be ours after we anex the argies for being dumb enough bringing back Kirchner

The red pill is that almost no countries have “bad food.”

You got meat? You got bread? You got fire/heat? You got veggies/other random shit to put in there? Congrats, your food is fine. Just need a half decent chef

>tfw will watch Leo Messinho lift the 2026 WC for Greater Brasil
immensely based

Europe is Africa now sweety get with the times

Unless you're a chink

Nobody cares about the national team. Clubs are more important.

south americans are so far behind tactically they will never win a wc until something changes. their players are still better than europes but their managers are light years behind. pretty sure the average /trb/ poster could do a better job managing than most south americans

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Kirchner paid off 200 billion dollars in debt, grew the GDP 1000% and took poverty from 67% to 24%, leaving behind a country with 23% inflation

Macri took 100 billion dollars in debt, shrunk the GDP 50% and took poverty from 24% to 40%, defaulted and is going to leave behind a country with 60% inflation

But yeah, I guess a fiscally responsible government that is "leftist" is so much worse than a fiscally retarded government that calls itself "conservative"

Are you trying to argue with right wingers while using actual data?
Are you a fool?

>Government freezes price artificially
>We ended inflation!
Lmao the state of leftcucks

fuck off retard

England is better at football
Rugby
Cycling
Athletics
Swimming
MMA
Boxing
Pretty much every sport tbf

Pretty much this.

Lowering the bar for poverty is not the same as diminishing, you dumb fuck.

Macri is the one who just froze prices

u mad, 49% - 32%

They didn't lower the bar, fucktard. Those figures come from a conservative university (Catholic University). Even when the conservatards measure it, the numbers say that Kirchnerism was infinitely better than Macri.

>after we anex the argies
Please do it. Only way to permanently eradicate peronism would be to be annexed by a majority country. Not to mention, imagine what our two countries could achieve if we had a friendly annexation.

I don’t think South American players are better than Europe’s

>Macri destroys the country
>i-it was the Peronists!!

lmao, all Cristina did was leave behind a 3% deficit in ARS

How does a 3% deficit in ARS turn into 100 billion dollars in external debt, moron?

Rightards BTFO
All hail communism

Macri was shit, let's agree on that, but you're a fool if you think Kirchnerism and peronism in general was good for Argentina. We're the laughing stock of South America because of peronism. Fucking Bolivia has had a more stable economy than us.

From 1955 to 1990, Peronism only governed 2 years. That's the period where Argentina lost the most positions in the GDP per capita ranking.

Argentina rose several positions both during Menem and Kirchner, then went down again abrutply with De la Rua and Macri

>b-b-but it's the Peronists!

When Cristina (who isn't the best example of pure Peronism) left in 2015, we had the highest wages in Latin America by far, even higher than Chile. Now we have the lowest wages other than Venezuela. Keep blaming Peronism though.

macri is a fucking idiot but cristina is evil. you literally lower your incomes by voting for her

Cristina is not going to be the next president. It's going to be Alberto. The government is going to look like Nestor's, not like Cristina's.

That means no trade deficit, no fiscal deficit, accumulation of reserves, paying off the external debt & a high exchange rate to favor exports.

Alberto is unironically more fiscally responsible than Macri.

Fuck off

Platino-Brazilian Confederacy is our only future. Fuck burgers and fuck China.

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Not a single proof so far.
But hey, i'm totally convinced. Let's bring Cristina, Lula, Chanchellet, that fat fuck from Uruguay whose name I forgot.
Hell, let's ressurect Chavez and put his carcass back to the venezuelan government.
Remember when the left was in power? Nobody questioned their crimes, their corruption, because the numbers were totally awesome. We should keep them in power forever.

Amém

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U mad, bozominion?
The right is imploding and the left will seize the power and never leave it again. Deal with it

Peronism is not communist. It's anti-communist and anti-debt.

Kirchnerism support Maduro's dictatorship. That is enough for me to not vote for them.

The Latin American right wing is nothing like the first world right wing. They are anti-nationalism, and always end up increasing the external debt because they're also fiscally irresponsible.

Wasn't Peron himself a kind of fascist? He even liked Franco.
I cannot understand why it has become what it did with the Kirchners.

Chile would never accept this alliance. It would have to be done by force.

Cristina said that Venezuela doesn't respect human rights and Alberto said they're an authoritarian government.

Cristina left with the country risk at merely 400 points. Now with Macri it's 2500 points, just like Venezuela.

I agree with this statement tho. They are more neocons.

>hating Maduro

Peronism is neither leftist nor right wing. It's a third position movement. That's why both Marxists and oligarchs hate it.

he was indeed a fat nazi general but zoomer kirchnerists don't know it as they scream fuck the army out loud while holding two fingers with their hands

Peronism deactivates the Marxist elements in Argentina by turning them into useful idiots for the movement. Without Peronism, we would have had a communist government already.

Alberto said "Venezuela isn't a dictatorship, it's just an authoritarian government" and that's not good enough for me, when all I see are more and more Venezuelans fleeing their country and telling me about their dictatorship.

So was the real fascist party in Italy.
I legit cannot comprehend it. Straight megalomania.

They voted for him. That's why he doesn't call it a dictatorship.

Imagine opposing this. We'd be a force to be reckoned with.

When did she say that?
Only VERY recently did Chanchellet recognise Maduro is a dictator, and before then, she was all buddy-buddy with him and Chavez before him, mostly out of UN pressure due to her current job. And they're both pretty much from the same cut, so I'm pretty inclined to think she only said that to save face.
Shit, our own left wing refuses to talk shit about them altogether.

>don't even care
>crush niggers left and right
lmoa

September 2017

>> Maduro's dictatorship

Right, you really believe 50% of Venezuelans support him? Those elections were rigged.

Cringe. They are way better at Rugby.

We are better at:
Basketball
>A Gold medal and WC, always on top 5 FIBA Rankings
Tennis
>Bongs beat us on Gold Medalls 2-0 after WW2
>9 of their 10 Davis Cups are from pre 1936, otherwise we are 1-1 (2015, 2016)
>We have more Grand Slams since the Open Era begun (6 vs 3)
Polo
>we are the best ever
>no one cares tho
Hockey (field)
>we are better at both Female and Male
Volleyball
>we are higher in the FIBV rankings and we had a third place in Soul 1988

Bonus Boxing:
We have had 43 World Champions. They have had 63. So they are better, but that's while using Ngubus and having double our population and 10 times the resources.
Not looking for an excuse, but it is obvious that GB has an advantage here.

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So, only after the problems were very glaring.
Nope, i'm not convinced.

Well, Cuba also had elections. One party and one candidate, though.

4channel is a left wing revolutionary board

>boycott elections
>Maduro runs unopposed
>omg how did Maduro win

They should have presented a candidate, and prove it was rigged. Now preemptively call it rigged without even trying.

So, reddit?

It would be nice, but for something like this to happen we would need a strong foreign campaign against us, kinda like what Macron tried to do with the Amazon, in a way that compells every military to do a coup in their respective countries in order to be able to defend ourselves from foreign agression, using as an excuse our weak democratic governments and their inabilities to even invest decently in our defenses.
What I'm trying to say is that in democratic regimes this shit will never happen.

the reencarnation of this guy will ruined it

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The military loves licking the same boot that Macron also licks.

Only full communism can save us

>Kirchner paid off 200 billion dollars in debt
Paying illegal debts contracted by Dictatorships and Menem is good because...??? "hey guise! I filled IMF's pockes, hell yeah that'll teach them!"
>grew the GDP 1000%
OHNONONO Kirchnerist education everyone, we had 6 gorillion dollars GDP in 2007. LMAO!
>retarded government that calls itself "conservative"
I DARE YOU TO POST A SINGLE VIDEO OF ANY CAMBIEMOS POLITICIAN CLAIMING TO BE CONSERVATIVE.
Larreta opened literal "trans houses" in Buenos Aires city ffs!

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reddit is just a bunch of white western male shitlibs

>paying illegal debts contracted by Dictatorships and Menem is good because...
Because we are not Trotskyists

>2007
Kirchnerism started in 2003. Peronism started in 2002.

>claiming to be conservative
They claimed to be center-right.

He lost once, he would lose again.
I don't know what happens in Argieland, but at least our military are actually way more nationalistic than our current government, even if the president was an army captain.
For example, the Generals responses to Macron were quite strong, and the old Commander Villas-Boas quoted Aldo Rebelo, who is a leftist, but also a nationalist, and that's a good thing.

but reddit have more hive mind mentality than us

And what makes you think our own specific case of moreno communist revolution could work?

Also yeah, the last 4 years of Cristina were a waste. She went full leftist (not Peronist) and that's why Macri won.

That's why the candidate running for president is the biggest critic of Cristina.

>They claimed to be center-right
post even a 10 second video. I'm making it easy for you, I'm sure some low ranking Ñoqui had to play the "conservative" role somewhere in CABA sometime in 2015. But I bet you cannot find a single heavyweight politician saying anything remotely conservative.
>Because we are not Trotskyists
Non argument, paying illegally contracted debts is outright retarded or complicit.
>Kirchnerism started in 2003. Peronism started in 2002.
Nestor ended up his mandate in 2007 kiddo, just for clarity, that 1000% was serious, do you actually believe that?

I don't know, the PT era made it sure that our Armed Forces were as useful as a soaked blanket, so that there would no risk of a full-on intervention (because it worked wonderfully in 1964 to its last consequences). I'm inclined to think they're more bark than bite and that's just diplomatic trash talking.

They don't do a coup mainly because of economics and the possibiliy of bloody repression on isurgents. To do a coup today would be easy af. The armed forces controls all the power and they don't use it because they don't want it. The problem is foreign sanctions, protests, etc... They don't think the bother would be well paid... At least in current circunstances.
I cannot garantee the future tho.

Gentle reminder that if you vote for Alberto, you're indirectly gonna support "questionable" governments such as Venezuela, Iran, China and Russia instead of the long established democracies of the west that have seen stability for years.

Has anyone accused Macri of being fascist, racist, sexist and whatever else the lefties throw around to people they don't like?
It's literally our left's strategy, and even with Bolsonaro shitting the bed, the left is pissing away any chance they have of ever being taken seriously again by acting like a kid denied a lollipop.

China is a pretty good example of a country in the periphery of capitalism should do so it can become liberated . Instead of just a whore of american dogs

Gomez Centurion, who was a Cambiemos official for years.

>En 2015 la ciudadanía votó una propuesta de centroderecha y el Gobierno no fue fiel

>illegally contracted debts
That's a leftist meme, dumbass. It's not illegal. We fucked up and we have to pay it back. I love how antiperonists believe anything the Marxists said so long as it's against the Peronists.

>1000%
It was under 100 billion after the 2001 crisis
It was 600 billion in 2015 when Cristina left

600% - 900% depending on how low it really was after 2001

Ah yes, the worker's paradise.
I sure will love earning 1 dolarydoo per hour while busting my ass everyday. All for the greater good of the Party and the country, of course!

Do you live in the established West democracies or in Argentina where we just defaulted?

China unironically has the best political form of this era.. They have a lot of faults (marxism, maosim, etc., its all shit of course, but its only in name, they don't even practice anymore what Mao taught), but the way they resist lbieralism is quite based.

The ruling faction of China is national capitalist, not leftist. China unironically follows the Peronist model.

>Western countries
>Stability

You can pick only one.

Factory workers in China earn 1 dollar but they can buy a house, a car, and the government can afford to build trains that even USA can't.

Please spread your ass for me

I don't see you going to Venezuela or Iran on holidays. It's always Europe or North America. And then you take cutesy photos with your iPhone with the Big Ben clock in the background and post it on your Instagram, where your fellow peronist friends wish they could be there.

>Home Ownership Rate in China remained unchanged at 90 percent in 2014

>Home Ownership Rate in France is expected to be 63.20 percent by the end of this quarter

you're retarded if you believe brazil isn't going to win a world cup again

You want to suck my fat American cock mongrel?

Dude development of a advanced/high waged economy takes time , and the way you do it is definitely NOT by selling EMBRAER to the american DOGS like your god Boslonaro did
Marxism_Leninsim of a 1000 thousond years of China will win at the end.
America does not stand a chance

Jokes on the Chinks, you can’t own a home under communism. Prager University said so

It's not about right or left. It's about latin culture. Lazyness, shallowness, and viveza criolla.

Now everyone GTFO to /pol/

We are not going to be Venezuela nor Iran. Venezuela is a country that has no industries. Peronism is a pro-industrialist movement. Iran is a Muslim hellhole. Peronism is a humanist movement.

Europe and North America didn't become rich with the Macri recipe. They became rich subsidizing key industries and administering their trade (the ladder). Only once they became rich, they freed the economy and told all the third world countries to do the same (kicking the ladder).

South Korea ignored them, kept subsidizing key industries and managing trade, and they joined the first world club.

we have marijuana, cocaine, bunda, sun and beaches

>American calling other people mongrels

So, it is indeed about busting my ass everyday for the good of busybodies that think they know what's best for me.
Not any different from wagecucking, but hey, at least they're commies and on The Right Side of History by default, right?

This thread was going to be archived, I posted a bullshit answer and now it's a 100+thread.

Marxism Leninism failed in China.

They don't fight capital. They don't worship capital. They put capital to the service of the people.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect

>You
CCP is unironically a marxist leninist party

Ah yes, the murriburger dogs will not stand a chance against a inhumane machine that pollutes ten times their own rate.

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Oh, and remember how murrica always meddles on our continent?
China will certainly not stoop to such levels, no sir!

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The Chinese one-party is MINO (Marxist in name only)

There are many factions within the party which act as pseudo-parties.

The ruling faction is not Marxist.

Only in name. They've abandoned marxism in the 80s.

They're stucked in their glorious past.

lol your prez married Eddie from Iron Maiden

>Communist Party no longer does communist shit
I wonder why

>Cambiemos is what this particular guy says it is
>even tho it is clearly claiming they are not what the people voted them for
perfil.com/noticias/politica/desplazan-de-la-aduana-a-juan-jose-gomez-centurion-por-la-denuncia-de-bullrich.phtml

Gomez Centurión was backstabbed by them and he saw what he wanted to see.
Parties are no perceptions of individuals. They had a 2 years campaign prior to their election.
Again, show me a single promise, speech, proposition ever made by Cambiemos that can be cataloged as conservative.
>a party that is ridden with Jews (a literal Rabbi) and opens transexual houses is conservative

About the debt, it was contracted by the Junta, they weren't a democratically elected government. Bush used a similar argument to pardon Irak's debts after toppling Saddam.
Also, Alberto is now stating he won't pay it all in the IMF terms anyways...

About the GDP. Itself is a bad indicator of quality of life or economic success. Mexico being a great example of a big GDP hiding extreme poverty.
countryeconomy.com/gdp/argentina

By 2002 we had a spree of 4 years of negative growth, reaching levels of GDP similar to 1989.
Comparing your government with the worst crisis ever in our history speaks a lot about your confidence in your own leaders.
"A-at least we are not like in 2002".
In 2009, 2012 and 2014 Kirchner had negative GDP growth.
2011 GDP was higher than 2014, we grew less than 2% from 2011 to 2014. It was only patched by....ASKING FOR MONEY back in 2014 and paying up more debts to the Paris Club.

Anyways, from 2002 to 2007 it would be a 100% growth, not 1000%. But again, it is comveniently comparing to the worst time ever, and ignoring numbers of their own government, like negative growth, INDEC censorship and 2014 default.

I think is funny how you deflected about EMBRAER and how bolsonaro is america"s puta
And that chart just explains my point about the time it takes to develop its economy , just look what the europeans did to their environment

Brazil could've easily won the last wc if lelgium didn't fluke a win against them and Argentina literally made it to the final in 2014

Better be USA's puta than Cuba's.
Now shove off, faggot.

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I get the feeling that 90% of Yea Forums are zoomers.
>don't remember Ks government
>think 2010 was the first good WC
yep.

Neither is good, but let's see if you will continue to say this when the USA inevitably elects a Democrat (and this will happens, its only as matter of time, and when it happens, they will legalize millions of illegals and they will remain in power for decades).

At least she's not her sister

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Macri said that he was going to free the economy. He said that the government should be like a referee in the sideline, not an active player. He said he was going to reduce taxes.

I know that he didn't do it, but that's my point. He's supposedly a right winger, and that's why the Brazilians defend him, but in reality he's a disaster that takes the worst of the left and the worst of the right without any kind of coherence, causing a huge crisis due to the inconsistencies.

>muh Jews and homosexuals
I was talking about economics only. No doubt that Cambiemos imported the globalist leftist agenda. Peronism never cared about that trash and it's already trying to undo it by taking it over and slowly moving away from it.

>paying the debt is bad
America didn't bomb the shit out of us. If you don't pay the debt, they don't let you export goods freely. The Military's debt is gone anyway. Now we have to pay Macri's debt and there are no excuses for it.

>GDP is a bad indicator
But GDP per capita is a great indicator.

>comparing your government to the worst crisis ever
We need someone to get us out of a similar crisis. So I think it's pretty relevant right now. Do you live in the same country? Have you checked the news lately?

>Argentina had a negative growth in 2009, 2012 and 2014
So it had a positive growth in 2010, 2011, 2013 and 2015? Even the last 4 years of Cristina, which were bad, were insanely better than Macri.

>it's easy to grow after a huge recession
Why doesn't Macri do it and win the elections? He has had recession after recession.

So what you're saying is do away with democracy and diplomacy. Got it.

At least she's hot, within his age range and he has other girls on his sight.

No, but it would be better to acknowledge that America is not our friend, and our rulers shouldn't bend before them.
Imagine the disaster if Trump does not win in 2020? Will Bolsonaro continue to suck their cocks?

Non European country will never win the world cup ever again.

Yes he will, and so will anybody else that gets elected.
Even Lula had to weigh his words and make some sort of deal, even if ALCA fell through. Only far-left idiots were still barking about US imperialism through the 2000's.
Also, nobody has a chance against Trump in 2020. Try 2024, by then the pendulum will swing back to the left and maybe, just maybe, the left will move on from calling their opposition nazis to stand a chance.

>Peronism never cared about that trash and it's already trying to undo it by taking it over and slowly moving away from it.
Boy, you are going to fall on your ass in the next decade. Alberto has a Drag Queen son. PJ has compromised so much with the left to win, they will comply with everything sooner or later. Cristina never ever talked about legalizing pot or abortion, only legalized gay marriage after the 2009 disaster elections. Now she is FORCED to do it. They have no frame at all.

>GDP per capita is a great indicator
NO IT ISN'T KEK!
that was the first lesson I got from PERONIST economic teacher at high-school.

All your arguments are
>they were better than this historic crisis
>they were better than this globalist kike that lied about everything he promised
Nigga, I've already had 1000 of this debates for year on Taringa. Bring something new.
I don't care if we were not worse than the worse time ever like an abused child doesn't care that his daddy stopped beating the shit out of him since he was 15.

Menem had to "lift us" from a similar crisis in 1989 and you are repeating the same argument the PJ used to defend him in the 90s.

>No European country will ever win the world cup ever again.
This, it's all africa from now on

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*kills brazilian NT

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We are going to give them the stuff they want without struggle.

The worst thing about leftists is not what they want, it's how divisive and petty they get. Their manifestations. The hate they infuse into society.

If you give them the dumb shit they want, they have no reason to complain and stay docile.

We gave them gay marriage without a fight, and Argentina never had the huge LGBT lobby problems until Macri showed up and imported the globalist agenda. Nobody even remembered gays existed.

And the debate is Alberto vs. Macri. That's why I am focusing on them. Those are the two choices right now. Alberto is not going to solve all the problems in this country, but at least the economy is going to be semi-normal, wages will recover their purchasing power, we'll get out of the default that Macri put us in.

It's amazing to think that the biggest problem in 2015 was a small deficit in ARS that seemed like the end of the world, and now we have to pay 20 times that sum but in dollars and in the next 4 years because the moron in charge never read a basic economics textbook.

Obesity in modern countries has more to do with shit quality nutrition in easily accessible food. A LOT of Mexicans would get diabetes because of sugar but they had no fucking idea what diabetes was. They would just drink soda all fucking day because it was delicious without knowing of the consequences. Same shit with americans, you eat nothing but soda and fast food and become addicted to that shit. One year later you're fat as fuck and can't stop eating until the doctors force you to a keto diet of sorts because you're 600 lbs and about to die.

>We are going to give them the stuff they want without struggle.
There's no "we" goddammit! Peronism died in 1974. And was already heavily infiltrated by Marxists, so much his minister of economy was a Communist Jew, Gelbard.
>If you give them the dumb shit they want, they have no reason to complain and stay docile.
INCREDIBLY RICH COMING FROM A PERONCHO.
They massacred the old unionist guard and Perón did nothing but to put a self-proclaimed "wizard" (López Rega) in charge of a retarded and useless AAA that killed less commies than the Junta anyways...
The left cucks your party all the time, the mere fact that Cristina has to LARP as feminist is enough proof they'll repeat El Pocho's original sin of trying to tame the left.

>the biggest problem in 2015 was a small deficit in ARS
What is Narcos taking over Santa Fe.
What was the 100 dead at railroad accidents.
The general crisis of public transport and the oligopolies on long distance bus transportation totally approved by Kirchner.
The green light on Cablevisión+Multicanal fusion creating a monster monopoly.
More Villas Miseria everywhere.
Censorship of murder rates since 2008, increasing murder rates in several cities like Santa Fe, Rosario, Mendoza, and southern BA in general.
Bailing out of failed companies like EDESUR, EDENOR EPE, EPEC, SanCor, La Serenissima. effectively subsidizing failure and punishing honest companies that supported even more workers combines that all of those. (SanCor vs all the other Santa Fe milk companies for example).

For more see

Based #freelula

Goddamned fucking monkeys. Brazilians badly need to be killed.

America has bad food, and your post is an illustration of why

Shut the fuck up you stupid false-flagging leftist.

I swear you're like a jehova witness with stockholm syndrome, macri literally destroyed our country and you're still blaming boogeyman peronists
Brainwashing at its finest, it's because of people like you we had the 2001 crisis and the current one

We´re not even that poor anyway, just terribly unequal

What the hell happend

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