Goodnight sweet prince

Can we get a sticky for a dead football club?

FUCK MODERN FOOTBALL
FUCK FOREIGN PLASTIC CUNTS

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noone knows who owns the ground and surrounding land

Legally that makes it the Queen's property by default

they're gonna knock it down and build a massive tesco

Can you redpill me on this Bury situation, I saw a few thrads on here about them but didn't read them through

Lasted 150 years. Suddenly went bankrupt.

Totally nothing to do with capitalism.....

is google broken?

>Bury
>Buried

Least they lived up to their name

Guaranteed to be the headline on the back page of The Sun tomorrow.

What led them to decide the badge should primarily be colored bluish-grey? Why is there what looks like an American bison in one corner of the shield?

Genuinely think it might be too late for the papers. Fucking sly bastards.

Looks like a logo of some elite American university

Gigg Lane more like Greggs Lane

this is probably why they failed. the marketing must have been dogshit

A few months I would have said I don't care about Bury/Bolton but no football fan deserves the shit they've been served up

RIP in peace sweet prince xxxxxxx

based

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Money is destroying football. Who gives a shit if they can't pay their bills, just let some local kids play for them. Better than folding the club.

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fuck the efl
fuck the premier league
fuck modern football

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Fuck the EFL

>just let some local kids play for them. Better than folding the club.
Bolton have been forced to do that. The lads in that squad would have been fucking destroyed if they had played Saturday-Tuesday-Saturday like was expected of them last week.

what happened?

...

And so the 92 becomes 91. And will probably become 90 in the morning when Bolton go bust.

Bolton tried it, got hammered so badly by Ipswich even their fans started to feel bad for them. Literally men against boys and probably hurts them hard mentally.

They actually kept a clean sheet against Coventry

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twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1166477857335533568

>The EFL do not insist on their member clubs having accounts audited, the EFL do not insist on member clubs publishing full accounts for fan scrutiny, the EFL do not punish clubs for late publication of accounts, the EFL do not have a clue & this is why the debacle arose

Considering the money involved in the game, that's shocking practice from the EFL.

>Crisis club keeps clean sheet against fellow crisis club
Poignant.

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Can recommend following this guy

kinda gone off football to be honest
gonna start watching my local amateur side who play at level 11 to see if i can fall back in love with it

>PL fans pretending to care about generic norf shithole FC going under

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Get a room you two x

What, like you?

Most fans in the last thread seemed to be from the championship and league 1 mate. Also, this could quite easily happen to teams like Bournemouth or Burnley down the line if they did get relegated

>>PL fans pretending to care about generic norf shithole FC going under

Bolton were in the prem not too long ago, this could literally happen to any club outside the top 6 in a few years

I don't pretend to care
blaming the EFL is the peanut-brain take. There's only so much they can do.
If they blocked the takeover everyone would have said they'd killed Bury right then and there.

>blaming the EFL is the peanut-brain take. There's only so much they can do.
You're taking the fucking piss with that, aren't you?

Just ignore raging faggots like this. You can't reason with a troll.

Sheffield United here, we were in league one 3 seasons ago, I find it all pretty horrifying desu.

The gap between the Championship and League 1 is probably the biggest of them all.

Because it quite literally is a county coat of arms
Don't know if they use it anymore, Wikipedia says they don't

Huddersfield here, full panic mode has already set in. All our premier league money is apparently gone, and our best player went to Brighton on deadline day. Also no manager and can’t score to save our lives.

Saw this earlier. 22 years ago and it applies today.

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It's mostly artificial, almost all Championship clubs spend way beyond their means gambling to get into the prem where they can actually survive. I easily can see one or more clubs currently spending in hope of promotion going wrong, going down and winding up within a few years.

you've tried to plug this unfunny joke into every thread so far, how obsessed with some random forum can you get

this is why it's so depressing because it could happen to any club. and it will, there are already several more clubs in incredibly precarious situations

Lmao no it's not. The Prem to Champ gap absolutely dwarfs everything else. Some teams have struggled getting out of League One but the big clubs at that level always manage it. There are a dozen Champ clubs right now who could sustain themselves in the Prem on size and haven't been there for over a decade.

Any of them could sustain themselves on size. Once you're up there the level of tv money means your size is more or less irrelevant. See Bournemouth for example.

That's what I don't get about clubs in your country laughing or "celebrating" this
From the outside looking in this could happen to any team in this environment and in a short few years no matter the health of a club at the current moment

I don't think you've understood my point. If your team gets relegated to League 1 you basically get treated like shit.

>That's what I don't get about clubs in your country laughing or "celebrating" this
It's mainly idiots taking rivalry way too far / bitter people still upset over an incident from ages ago / underage children wanting a reaction.

Ignore the people laughing, its just edglords. There's nowhere else where posters would be behaving like that.

literally name 1 thing the EFL did wrong

If they blocked the takeover there would have been a sperg-out like when they tried to stop Cellino taking over Leeds.

A sperg-out is better than the death of a club. Dale has a record as an asset stripper.

>literally name 1 thing the EFL did wrong
They allowed Steve Dale to take over Bury without passing the Owners & Directors' Test.

>If they blocked the takeover there would have been a sperg-out like when they tried to stop Cellino taking over Leeds.
That's what they should have done with Bury. But because it's the EFL's golden goose of Shithouse United they took it super seriously.

The only people who have any reason to celebrate this are the teams at the bottom of L2 who are gonna survive this year because no team will be relegated.

The bottom 3 of the championship should be a sobering image for everyone trying to get to the “promised land” of the premier league. I mean, Stoke will probably get out of it but I can easily see Wigan and Huddersfield going down

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Stoke are only getting out of it if something drastically changes. If the cup win v Leeds is a catalyst for it, then good for them.

Wigan have already been down twice since the prem so it's not like it'd be something new.

That's not it. Clubs don't get treated worse in League One than the Champ. Parachute payments naturally run out and there's less interest in facing even lower quality opposition. It's not the fault of anyone in particular, just the nature of it being one step lower than the Champ.

I think Wigan are reasonably well run but I'd fear for the other two if they went down.

Yes, but they don’t have someone like Dave Whelan as chairman anymore. If they go down to league 1 this season, I doubt they will ever get back.

>tfw the land your ground is on is in a trust which states it must be used for the football club and that should the football club stop existing then the area will be turned into a public park

A piece of paper signed in 1927 is literally the only reason we have managed to survive being on the fucking edge this past few years as it keeps the asset strippers away.

sounds good, which club?

Morecambe.

The fact that EFL genuinely looked into a bid from Joseph Cala for Bury after what he did with us and Gateshead is fucking insane.

Will have to google him

Lass crying now on talksport

Huddersfag here. Our last 3 transfer windows have completely ruined the club.
Let Mooy go on loan so we get no money to replace him
Let Depoitre go for free after spending 6 million on him (6 goals in 56 games)
Paid 5.7 million for Sobhi from Stoke who has made 4 (four) appearances for us (now forever on loan at Egypt teams)
Sign Lossl (an actual good goalie) for 2.5 million, let him go for free to Everton at the end of the season
Billing gone to Bournemouth (tbf, we got a good price for him, though hasn’t been replaced)
Can’t get Mounie out the club - paid 12 million for him for a massive return of 9 goals in 59 games
Let Tommy Smith go
Let Zanka go
Spent all the Billing money on a meme Belgian from Montpellier
Only other noteworthy players brought in were a couple of loans (Grabara and Chalobah) and a free transfer (Elphick)
Huddersfield are unironically fucked lads

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He is an Italian lunatic who was for a short period of time obsessed with building underwater hotels. He tried to buy Pompey and build one there.

With us he though he had bought but in actual fact the previous owner didn't have the rights to sell it to him. Before that was settled in court though he arrived at the ground in a Citroen Berlingo (He hitchhiked a lift), said he was gonna fire pretty much everyone and float the club on the stock market. He called our manager a 'chef' and then spent the night sleeping on the boardroom table. He was found the next morning drying his underwear on the radiator.

He then fucked off to Gateshead where he got someone else to buy the club because he wouldn't pass the fit and proper test and he put himself in as the 'Financial adviser'.
He sacked all the turnstile staff. Long running fans of the club who did it as part-volunteers for like 60 years were gone. He then manned them himself. On matchdays he gave out pre-ripped tickets and all the equipment to count fans entering the ground just disappeared. Fans started noticing that the number of fans announced was way lower than the number they counted from the stands. Turns out he was pocketing all the fucking cash from the turnstiles.
He also saw no reason why the club should 'waste' money on feeding the players on matchdays so the supporters trust had to get involved in feeding the team.

For the good of all football clubs in the UK he should get a country wide stadium ban just because I'm sure he nicks anything that isn't nailed down when he goes to a club.

Oh yeah and he has multiple convictions for transferring counterfeit currency.

>obsessed with building underwater hotels
>spent the night sleeping on the boardroom table. He was found the next morning drying his underwear on the radiator
I've heard this before recently. Absolute madman.

>pocketing all the fucking cash from the turnstiles
A director at my club used to do that. He ended up fleeing from his mansion overnight (massive place, was on the market for £3m not long ago). They found envelopes of cash in his office. Was allegedly last seen in Turkey but I think he's still on the run from Interpol.

He literally wanted to buy a section of the Tyne to build a hotel in it.

Just pure madness.

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Bury fan. My Dad has been a Bury fan all his life (in his 60s) as he grew up there.

Feel a bit sick and empty. Strange feeling. Not sure what to say. Very sad.

Also pisses me off the Football League are giving Bolton every opportunity yet Bury are martyrs. Shitty double standards

that actually sounds horrible, wish you the best

Thanks Portubro, maybe if the right manager comes in and spends a bit of money in January we’ll be ok.

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Can any conman just buy a team? Why is there always a team in financial trouble?

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Lower-league football loses money.

Just support another team lol

Because they're all gambling in the hope of doing better. As you can see the clubs' existence is at stake.

I know how that feels like.
My local club actually ended a few years ago from bankruptcy (UD Leiria) but that's a bit of a long story and bankruptcy alone does not explain the whole thing.
My "other" club, Sporting, was also in a very tight spot a few years ago, it got better, and now I'm afraid it's all going to shit again.
I'm tired, Robbie.

Does the PL subsidize the lower leagues at all?

not him but not that I know of

I remember hearing a while ago that EFL gets a tiny, tiny, tiny cut from each PL transfer.

vote labour

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I love how the only response Bury has to this is "pls don't vandalize our stadium we need to sell it to the highest bidder when we strip the assets remaining of this club"

gives you an idea about who the owners are doesn't it

Panem et circenses: Cockroach version

I've also been following this case, being a Vitória Setúbal fan. This could very well become our reality if we're relegated from first league.
Moneyball is killing the essence of domestic leagues.

All the best to you lads, it’s a shame this is happening all round

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Oh, it has a heraldic logo for a collection of orc looking norf fucks so we should care. Kys.

Holy hell, I had no idea how royally your owners fucked up in the transfer market. I mean, I knew you were buying meme Germans and Belgian's but this mismanagement of transfer and contract terms is actually pretty terrifying. Hoping for the best from a Fulhamfag.

What do you think about some people saying united and city are the reason this has happened?

Someone explain to me how you can blame the EFL completely? Where is the deterrent if clubs are able to act like >mid-200s Bolton and know they will be fine because they will get bailed out at the end of the day.

>big 6 clubs take up 90%+ of EPL/EFL spending
>Bolton and Bury die like this

Thanks. I fucking hate it.

Because when one club can spend lodesamone in one window for 1,27 players and clubs like Bolton and Bury go bottoms up, it’s more descriptive of the strength of the money in the league and the power isn’t to the players

HHHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

They can't though, financial fair play stops them doing this, Leeds have a rich owner but have had to sell players and loan in new ones because of FFP.

As a fellow Huddersfag, this hit me in the feels. However don’t forget the other examples of our idiocy:
>signing Ben Hamer - he was a free but the wages could have been used to sign somebody who could actually score a goal. We already had Lossl, and Hamer was a downgrade. Lossl is now at Everton, Hamer now at Derby - say no more
>the complete mismanagement of Van la Parra
>Hiring Jan Siewert as manager. A man who’s biggest achievement was taking a fourth tier German side into the relegation zone. He would be the man to lead us in the championship. Managerial record - 1 win in19 games
>unironically signing Jason Puncheon on loan as the best hope to keep us in the prem - 0 goals in 6 games, and after being released by Palace he now plays in the fucking Cypriot first division.
The one year dabbing in the premier league was fun but it’s fucked us for many years to come

Those people are fucking retarded. City and United are the largest clubs in the Manchester area. Should they have donated food, facilities, and had volunteers to help out Bolton and Bury on match days to alleviate costs? Sure.

But AFAIK clubs aren't allowed to buy stakes in other clubs within the same English football system. And City had enough fighting with UEFA and FA as is, so even if they wanted to, I don't think they could've given money to financially support day-to-day ops or fund signings. If anything, those fans should point their fingers on EFL for letting faggots who don't know what the fuck they're doing business-wise pass the "fit and proper test" and turning a blind eye when they predictably turn the clubs into shit-shows.

so what do to stop this from happening again lads?

post 'modern footy is a disgrace' on twitter

Good, I’m sick of the taxpayer bailing out failed football clubs, sucks if you’re a bury fan, but it’s not a national concern.

Luton very nearly went the same way. God bless Gary Sweet.

Gutted for Bury fans. I hope Bolton can still be saved.

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Horrible news. Prem teams manged to fork out a quarter mil each for a retirement party last year didn't they? Bet that feels real good? What a great use of money. Poor Bury. Poor Bolton.

FFP is completely useless though. Villa, Derby and Sheff Wed have all got around it with that stadium selling shit.

People are overreacting when they say entire livelihoods have been ruined. Would you act like that if an Asda closed? That probably threatens more livelihoods. As tragic as it sounds, it is not possible to have a team for every town. Bury is the first of many.

You two are fucking imbeciles.

>implying you’re not a NEET
>implying football clubs are not parts of local communities
>implying I would rather have my taxes going to refugees or some boomer getting a winter warmth grant even though they are already rich and get bennies no questions asked

Now time to finally put Bolton out of their misery as well. Like this reminds me of my old dog and my father. We all loved my old dog Lucy, especially me because we got her when I was 5. But my father was her favourite, she would go to him, be with him, they were inseparable, part from when he had to go to work.

But then my dog suffered from vertigo, she survived just, but she could barely walk, she wasn't herself, her old self anymore. But she could still go for walks, just like Bury, just like Bolton, she was a shadow of her former self, but she survived and with the exception of the pills she was well not as good as new but she could live. Just like Bolton Wanderers and their money troubles like 50,000 money troubles ago.

But she turned 15 and by this point her back legs were gone. She could barely walk but my Dad, just like the EFL with Bolton Wanderers, thought that she could survive, didn't understand that it would be more humane to put her down because Christ imagine having to kill your own daughter y'know? Imagine that? Terrible. But she was a few days away from 16 years old, she couldn't walk, she had to wear a diaper because she was shitting herself. Just dog shit everywhere she went and my Dad just like the EFL with Bolton Wanderers and Bury before today, saw this prized member of their family in pain and wanted to see them last just a few more days even though it would've been heartbreaking but humane to put them down.

Eventually my dog got put down, my parents didn't tell me until a few weeks afterwards but eventually like 7/8 months after my Dad didn't agree but understood that it was for the better so hopefully the EFL sees this dying club shitting themselves and not being able to walk and just takes Bolton Wanderers to the vets, just y'know put them out of their misery like they did with Bury.

Siewert was unironically the worst managerial appointment I've seen in my life

Who takes their place? Would love to see red bull create a team in the english leagues, would be a huge improvement over bury

what the fuck is this shit

Go walk out in front of a train.

A sad day for football.

Hopefully they'll bounce back AFC Wimbledon style.

t. Norwich supporter

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Can’t argue. Thought Ricky Sbragia getting the Sunderland job would never be topped but here we are

are they no longer a club or just kicked out of the efl?

t. American with a proxy

Sbragia actually won games at Sunderland though.

>Also pisses me off the Football League are giving Bolton every opportunity yet Bury are martyrs.

Both clubs got the same 14 day period, Bolton's starts today.

it's gonna go to that anyway, it's just more expenses.

Like a fucking vulture.

ERA OF THE BVLL

Get a job

More points deductions

Also Bolton haven't postponed five consecutive matches.

This

The man is so transparent, he knocks me sick.

>As tragic as it sounds, it is not possible to have a team for every town.

It used to be.

Norf love bennies but ‘ate pakis. Can’t blame Jezza trying to get in with the lads somehow

It was the EFL who postponed the matches though. Not like Bury did it themselves.

Yes, because they couldn't field a team.

Please show me the press release(s) which specifically said that.

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pls Bolton next

>David: Companies go out of business everyday. If the outgoings are greater than income then it is not a viable concern, football clubs are no different so why should they be treated any differently? Maybe there are simply too many football clubs, just like high street shops?

>Stu Howden: So sad to hear about Bury. But I’m not sure why anyone is blaming the EFL for this? It’s simply not fair to expect teams to be constantly bailed out or let off. It’s always the fans that suffer, but teams must work within their means and become self sustaining.

>Sam: Although it's sad to see the demise of Bury, and possibly Bolton, it's a business which can't pay it's way in the world, much like Woolworths and others. Why should creditors have to bail out this business? or why do people think a football club is different.

Days like today really expose some people as clueless and ignorant morons.

I don't understand what's wrong with what they're saying.

You're one of them then.

And what do you propose? Government funded teams like in Spain?

No. The money used to be distributed properly but then the top division broke away to create the Premier League and prevent lower league clubs from getting their share.

It needs some level of protection. They're community assets.

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Irrelevant non-league team, who gives a fuck?

Bury is an FA Cup winner, Bolton was in the EPL not so long ago. It's a sign of the times

Fuck off you plastic cunt.

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>DC: Absolutely not, Premiership clubs should not have stepped in, they're not charities! Does it happen anywhere else in business? Only if they are a viable concern: Bury is financially ruined, no-one stepped in to save Woolworths because their debt was huge and they were not an attractive purchase. Same with Bury, and many more likely in the future. It's inevitable and sadly a part of life.
Another dumb spacker.

>People actually crying over this shit team on talksport

Fucking hilarious. Grown men crying over football "boohoo I won't take my grandkids". Bury being kill does those poor kids a favour, they can go to the Etihad and watch proper football.

Based zoomer customer.

>they can go to the Etihad and watch proper football.

There's plenty of room there, seeing as Bury have more fans than City.

scummy neoliberals

Off yourself.

>Michael: I do feel for the Bury staff and fans, they don't deserve this, but the fact is the club does! They have spent massively beyond their means for as long as I can remember and, as much as the EFL can be blamed, the club has to accept responsibility.

And another.

FUCK MODERN FOOTBALL
FUCK FOREIGN PLASTIC CUNTS

I know United offered to loan youth players out to them but that was it as far as I know, don't city did anything to help the situation

Steve Dale: “I never went to Bury...so for me to walk away from Bury and never go back is a very easy thing to do...I didn’t even know there was a football team called Bury. I’m not a football fan.”

Shambles.

Would not mind if they both died too

>NOOOOOOO WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU NEED MONEY TO FUNCTION AS A FOOTBALL CLUB IN 2019

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>the EFL thought this was an appropriate owner

Citeh gave them their old training ground in exchange for them maintaining the place. By all accounts, Steve Dale sacked the grounds staff and the place has become a mess.

EFL did nothing wrong, this guy sounds like a sound owner.

>Should they have donated food, facilities, and had volunteers to help out Bolton and Bury on match days to alleviate costs? Sure.
The owner was the cause of their financial problems; clubs (or anyone) donating may have helped Bury for a bit but the end result would have been the same. It's like giving money to homeless people on the street.

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>James Waller: Seeing all the “it’s a business” comments about Bury really shows the shift in football and attitudes around it. You see more fans discussing the economics of the club than the football. We’re losing sentimentality. I don’t want to support a business.
Someone gets it at last.

>Uzy: All these big clubs about and not one helping. I believe that @OfficialBWFC should be bought and used to bring through youth players from other clubs and these clubs chip in a cheeky million each every season to sustain & grow players
FFS

How many PL owners do you think are actually football fans?

The Glazers, Kroenke, Sheikh Abdul whoeverthefuck most definitely aren't.

Mike Ashley is a known footie fan.

Bill Kenwright is

His running of Newcastle proves he's a businessman first and a fan second.

The Glazers have completely mismanaged United, the big difference is that the club is in no danger of going out or business. Most other big clubs aren't being mismanaged in that way.

a whole lot of windmilling on Twitter and then nothing
Nobody actually wants harsher regulation on what football clubs and owners can do, they'd still squeal with joy if a rich foreign crook tried to buy their club tomorrow.
They just want to be seen saying fuck the capitalist system (the same system that is the only reason English clubs aren't competitively irrelevant)

>Dave, Wirral: Bury's plight has been brought on through years of spending money that wasn't there. There fans are part of the problem. They have stuck their head in the sand and celebrated promotion without paying players and having players who they couldn't afford and cheated promotion. EFL have done what they had to do to protect the game. Good riddance to a team that cheated promotion.

Yet another clueless bitter Tranmere fan still unable to realise it was 2017/18 where Bury spent silly money and got relegated.

True desu. The modern game is rotten and fans are as much to blame for that.

>(the same system that is the only reason English clubs aren't competitively irrelevant)
>muh coefficient

>muh history
>let's allow Generic Northern Shithole FC to dodge taxes and avoid paying players just because they were founded ages ago

Literally nobody is saying this.

i remember doing career mode with bury in fifa 2004 because you had to start at a shit club

No one gives a fuck.

>Bolton Wanderers have confirmed that 'any plans that may have been made for the immediate closure of the club have been put on hold' by the administrator.

>he thinks the EFL actually have the power to stop an investor taking over a private business
yikes, sweaty
the EFL are scapegoated here because the alternative is tougher legislation, which no one actually wants because they all secretly have wet dreams over someone like Abramovic buying their club

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Oh wait: they're crying over finishing bottom in 2014/15 while Bury were promoted. Sad cunts looking for excuses.

rude

about poo peeland, i know.

>I am a literal retard: the post

you don't actually provide any arguments or reasoning with your posts, you've just been calling people retards for the past few hours.

You are retarded though if you think the EFL are blameless victims in any way whatsoever.

>tottensoi isn't next

shame

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virtue signalling: the post
The EFL would have been blamed no matter the action they took. Do you really think they should have blocked the takeover of a club that was on the brink of bankruptcy? Do you really think they would not have been equally criticised for that?

They should have done the research into Steve Dale last year, but they did fuck all.

>tottensoi
that's not even a pun

t.Non-league shitter

Yes it is.

This.

no it isn't
you just took the name "tottenham" and forced "onions" into it

Then start a community trust and take it over like luton otherwise shut the fuck up

stop getting assblasted

>latin in the club logo

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legit stop being retarded
this club was sold to a guy for a pound and all of bury's fans are now labeling him enemy number one. he took on the risk and the gamble and tried to get a deal done, but nobody could get the deal finished.
if you retards are this mad then they can start their own team, work their way up like every club has, and have the fans hold the shares.
the community can't bail out some failing football club because a bunch of whiny cunts say they should. Bury haven't been a top-flight team since prior to World War 2 and the only claim to fame they have is having won an FA Cup in 1900 and 1903. What an absolutely retarded argument to even entertain.

Yanks making themselves look like idiots again. Dale had no intention of saving Bury.

and yet he was willing to take on the club when nobody was.
literally could have been anybody.
I legit hope you're not a bury fan because this is legit embarrassing. This is like if we had a thread every-time a AA baseball team relocated or went bankrupt.
you morons don't look at the balance sheets and don't know shit. stop acting like you have some logic and sense beyond everyone else, forget about Bury (or create a phoenix club like normal fans) and move on with your life. you can rattle on and argue your case as much as you want but you look like a dolt.

totten-HAM

totten-SOI

>and yet he was willing to take on the club when nobody was.
Only to profit for himself. He's an asset stripper.

>This is like if we had a thread every-time a AA baseball team relocated or went bankrupt. you morons don't look at the balance sheets and don't know shit. stop acting like you have some logic and sense beyond everyone else, forget about Bury (or create a phoenix club like normal fans) and move on with your life. you can rattle on and argue your case as much as you want but you look like a dolt.
You're the only one looking like a dolt here. You have no clue about the situation at all.

>try to sell the club for months
>working a deal until the deadline
>"He's an asset stripper"
If I have no clue, then why don't you enlighten me? Or perhaps, as I'm suggesting, you're just full of hot air? Hmmm, makes me think.

Dale constantly produced excuse after excuse to avoid making a sale that wouldn't benefit him.

he had a deal completed days ago

1 hour before the club was going to be expelled after 2 and a half months of talks that barely moved because he didn't want to give up the chance of killing them.

I don't know why you're defending him considering he's the one who caused all this shit.

>Financially irresponsible club has to play in a league a few tiers lower and rename itself Bury AFC

Wow such a tragedy

Spoken like a true customer.

It's not that big of a deal this kind of thing just doesn't happen as much in English football compared to other places (Italy for example)

>It's not that big of a deal
First time a club has been removed from the league system in 27 years (15 if you count Wimbledon). Of course it's a big deal, you plastic schmuck.

It's weird that despite being shit for the past 6 years United have made so much more money than everyone else, even real Madrid, I can see the Glazers selling United the moment sponsors start pulling out

God shut the fuck up you dumb carelord. Football has always been a competitive business, acting like this is indicative of something wrong with 'modern football' is retarded and short-sighted.

>the Nevilles doing nothing for their hometown club that literally employs their mother

cold

Cause winning is not an indicator of liquidity and profitability and between more favorable tax laws and wealthier global customers they are fundamentally set up to profit as long as they finish in the top 7

>acting like this is indicative of something wrong with 'modern football' is retarded and short-sighted.
No it isn't. You clearly don't give a fuck about small clubs going to the wall and nor do the EFL.

I hope this keeps them up at night. Bankrolling Salford and watching their hometown club die.

There's no danger of them losing a significant amount of fans for it to become a problem. And the thing is, they've been 'shit' by elite club standards, but they've still consistently finished in reasonably high positions in the Prem every season. This is the future of football. Big clubs don't fall away because they are being managed poorly, the gap is just far too big now.

It's because Britain is full of miserable cunts basically

While your boy tries to shut down parliament to force his batshit agenda through?

>if you don't support jezza the red that means you are a tory

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Jesus christ, what type of plastic faggot are you? Bury FC's collapse is one of the saddest moments I've seen watching soccer (football if you must insist on the "proper" terms), and one of the biggest collapses of a club since Rangers in Scotland.

This is why Brits need a 50+1 model like in the Bundesliga. Fans should not be at the mercy at incompetent owners and they should adopt a fan-owned model like 50+1 to prevent this atrocity from happening again.

bbc.com/sport/football/49486208
I know very little about buisness or the operation of owning a club, but I don't get why isn't there a "temporary owner" to help the club survive while deciding either it wants to permanently own the club or find a suitable owner?

>Hi, yes I am the caretaker CEO of this company

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>Bury
bury means "dun" in polish

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>Bury FC: Sadly hearing that the most likely future for the club now is liquidation, having been expelled from the EFL after 125 years they effectively have no business now. The players are free agents as it isn't an EFL club and can leave.

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>this is the new head of the EFL
wew

start again lower down the pyramid and climb back up
it's been done before and I'm sure they'll get back sometime
pretty grim all round desu, first match I ever went to was oxford v bury in what's now the championship in the late '90s

>1 club in 27 years goes bankrupt
>"this is a sad indictment of the modern game. English football is going to the dogs"

this happens like every week in Italy

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Yes they will no doubt start a phoenix club in the Unibond 2nd division or whatever the fuck it's called now, and yes they MIGHT get back up to the league at some point in years to come, but it's still the principle of it. Accy took 40 years to get back to the league, Stockport are massive by non-league standards and have been stuck down there for over a decade despite never going out of business. Aldershot took decades to come back and went straight back out again.

Football in Bury has been irreversibly altered forever, even if they get back to the league within 5 years it will never be the same again.

It's different in other countries you fucking inbred mongloid. Football culture in other countries is two, three, maybe four teams, then a bunch of random farmer teams that no one cares about. It's never been like that in England, but it is slowly going that way thanks to shit like this, modern football culture in general.

insane at the amount of clubs that have gone under and respawned over there
fiorentina and parma were the only ones that got any real press here but there's a strong number of ex-serie A clubs that went under

It's not one club in 27 years. Did you forget about Chester, Darlington, Rushden & Diamonds, Scarborough and Halifax Town have all been in the league, mismanaged, then gone bust after going out of the league.

First to go bust while in the league system. Technically it's 2 if you count the whole Wimbledon shambles.

Yes I know what you're saying. My point is that there have been consistent failings through the years, it's just that they all went out of the league before going bust. Also, there have been other clubs that have been horrendously mismanaged and managed to scrape through and survive, some more that may still go. Coventry are a prime candidate.

BOLTON ARE SAVED

bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48906359

>My point is that there have been consistent failings through the years, it's just that they all went out of the league before going bust.
Convenient for the FL then, eh. Don't forget Hereford as well.

>Also, there have been other clubs that have been horrendously mismanaged and managed to scrape through and survive, some more that may still go. Coventry are a prime candidate.
Especially with them being homeless.

bwfc.co.uk/news/2019/august/statement-on-behalf-of-david-rubin--partners-administrators-for-bolton-wanderers3/

>"The Trust were forced to constantly compromise their position in the face of circumstances and demands which were wholly unreasonable. This says much about their determination not to allow Eddie's beloved Bolton Wanderers to suffer any longer at the hands of Ken Anderson.

>"Sadly, Mr Anderson has used his position as a secured creditor to hamper and frustrate any deal that did not benefit him or suit his purposes. Thankfully, with the assistance of the Trust and others, we were able to overcome this obstacle.

Suggests the EDT made a compromise rather than weird bastard Anderson. Shame.

>Football Ventures Limited
definitely not sketchy

Dodgy as fuck, but they live to fight another day. I mean they weren't in any position to be picky right now.

So how do you fix the EFL?

inb4 "murder them"

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Everyone in Bury supports Man United.

I know a Bury lad who supports Liverpool.

>tfw you're a United fan from Bury

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It could have been us

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Still could, lad, don't count your chickens.

Any club outside the big 6 are at risk tbqh.

I guess it's a good thing our owner is a stingy cunt, no chnace of him overspending.

It's beyond that now. Our clubs outside the top 6 aren't 'at risk' any more, it's all over, only a matter of when, not if.

is bury a comfy place to live

No it's a fucking dump, just another no mark, small, dying, northern town. The one redeeming quality is that it's close to Manchester.

I'm a bit fucked off that the Football League has clearly decided that little Bury get to be made an example of while they've given Bolton every fucking opportunity

I have no doubt that Bury could have fielded a team if allowed.

>I have no doubt that Bury could have fielded a team if allowed.
That's what I don't get about it.

>tell Bury they can't play a single game because of financial issues
>force Bolton to play their kids to fulfil fixtures despite suffering from similar issues

The logical conclusion: EFL cared a lot about doing everything to rescue Bolton, seeing them as "Too big to fail" because they were in the Premier League recently, while not giving a shit about Bury who could be martyred to make a point.

The problem with that line of thinking is that Bury aren't nobody - they have a long history in the football league. They aren't Crawley Town, Yeovil, Boston or Burton Albion or something. But you wouldn't appreciate that if you're an EFL exec that doesn't actually give a shit about football.

Wouldn't shock me if that was the genuine logic.

Lucozade Ribena Suntory should have bought Bury and renamed them "Very Bury" to sell some more bottles of Ribena.

>Football culture in other countries is two, three, maybe four teams, then a bunch of random farmer teams that no one cares about.
You're talking out your ass, not even Polish league is like that.

Prove me wrong, farmer.

From the League Cup thread: twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1166808923392872451

>Bury. Yes there is a bidder. Multi national concern. Asking EFL to consider the offer. They had notice of this last night. And the money came over today. Hopefully someone has a review of the case. Do the test. Do the deal. Pronto.

Imagine if they actually got saved.

twitter.com/JoshHalliday/status/1166815760406241281

Josh Halliday

@JoshHalliday
New, strange twist on Bury FC: MPs asked EFL today to give club more time to thrash out a deal with a new bidder who came forward yesterday. That mystery bidder can be revealed as Gustavo Ferreira, a Brazilian pastor (more on that later) and his goldmining firm WGS Mining.

>brazilian owner
BANTER YEARS

That seems bonkers enough that it must be bullshit. Very unlikely EFL will change their mind unless someone in high places turns the screw

We're not making it anywhere. We'll be a pub team within 10 years.

Why would Coates abandon Stoke?

Why do people care so much? I mean yeah, they are a founding member and it's sad and all but come on, they've been literal whos for like 80 years lol

Bolton were still in the Prem like 8 years ago

Why wouldnt he. Its hard to imagine now but we've been on the steady decline for years.

>Why wouldnt he.
I thought he was a lifelong fan.

>Its hard to imagine now but we've been on the steady decline for years.
Not really hard to imagine it.

bury are the tinnest of pots, couldn’t give a shit about them

because most of us support a club that this could happen to just as easily

> Gustavo Ferreira, a Brazilian pastor (more on that later) and his goldmining firm WGS Mining.

BURY TO RISE FROM ITS GRAVE IN THREE DAYS BOYS, YOU'VE HEARD IT HERE FIRST.

Because most of the people going to football matches in the UK, and most of the people living in the UK with a passing interest in football, support or live in a town where this quite easily could happen to them.

Most clubs have had genuine /lifelong/ owners at some point. Most no longer do.

He might be a lifelong fan but he still wont be happy if it starts haemorrhaging money.

Because if they fail what's an equally desperate club like Bolton going to pull out of the hat?
What's saving other clubs down the line? Nothing

Sadly true.

Fair point. If they lose on Saturday Jones is done.

Would be one of the most kino moments in English football

Because my club went through something similar and I feel bad for them

We really need to cut the fat. On paper we've got a good squad but none of the fucking pricks want to be there and its killing the team.

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>There is an unscheduled EFL Board meeting at 12pm today. Updates to follow.

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