Would anyone else think they'd actually enjoy this league if it didn't feel so forced about everything

Would anyone else think they'd actually enjoy this league if it didn't feel so forced about everything.

Like the culture around it feels forced, the rivalries, the support.

For example rivalry week. A whole week of derbies planned ahead by mls to make money. A lot of whomever have no history yet the fans act as if the other supporters killed their moms when they have nothing to hate each other for YET. not saying history can't grow but this league doesn't give it time.

No hate just my opinion and would like to get yours.

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Why watch MlelS when you could watch big strong muscular and ELITE USL?

I understand what you mean, but unfortunately it's unrealistic to expect otherwise considering we can't retroactively give soccer the century of development other countries have. The Rivalry Week™ thing is gay and marketed as fuck, but you can't demand prospective soccer fans just mill around and passionlessly watch their team until they have "sufficient history". Hopefully, in time, the clear issues caused by the USSF-MLS-SUM relationship will be addressed and corrected, but I won't hold my breath. It's only going to get worse before it gets better.

Until we have a standard European-style league system this is what we're stuck with

the fans are faggots and the league has the aroma of pretentiousnes around it when it is really just another second tier sport in NA like Lacrosse or Rugby. But NLL and whatever rugby shit don't take themselves as seriously.
They call soccer teams football Clubs,
field a pitch,
call jerseys shirts
etc.
They don't understand the fans are a mix of people who just want to get drunk in a crowd but can't afford NFL tickets, and people who don't watch the big 4 because they were bullied by people who played them in school.

You're just being stupid if you think soccer is comparable to rugby or lacrosse in terms of viewership or participation in the US/Canada

>Until we have a standard European-style league system
With pro-rel, sure.
>With no play-offs and the league can be won months in advance.
Let's not.

Our cities are too spread out to have proper rivalries, in any sport. Yankees v Red Sox has nothing on Celtic v Rangers, Fenerbahçe v Galatasaray. Or whatever, the list goes on.
But fake derbies don't concern me. What concerns me, as a fan of the sport, is that kids don't play unless organized by their parents. It's about the kids, not the big clubs.

I will root for inter miami

might be the most interesting thing to happen to this mickey mouse league tbqh

What would be my ideal team in Major League Soccer?
I search.
> winning team
> Team with an excellent and very healthy fan base
> team that is the most popular and important in your entire city
> Team with very high attendance in your stadium (let it be the team with the most assistance in your entire city)
> Team with specific soccer stadium
> Team that won MLS Cup
> Team that is in a city where Soccer is the most popular sport
> team that is almost always in the playoffs

you mean inter ft lauterdale

basado

and just like that this post will derail the thread by honey-potting a bunch of limpwristed faggots
>no watch my team!!
>no mine!!
>you might like this team xD

>he doesnt know who fernando is

shoo shoo newfag

>Would anyone else think they'd actually enjoy this league if it didn't feel so forced about everything.

No not really, people dont watch it because its a shit league, nobody outside of the US really knows about the whole culture around it, i only know about the cringy shit going on in mls because its posted on Yea Forums, no one says "man i really would love to see the super thrilling game of houston dynamo vs Toronto fc but cant bring myself to support such a corporate fiasco made for soiboys and feminist" people say "Who cares about a mediocre quality retirement league Lol"

? The Vancouver Whitecaps reported attendance down to 17,000. Numbers later disproved and the actual numbers were 13,000~ in a 40,000 seat stadium.
The Saskatchewan NLL team averages 14,000 and hits capacity consistently in the playoffs.
The metro Vancouver area has 2.5 times the population of the entire province of Saskatchewan. more than 10x the population of regina. Obviously the USA is more in to faggy sports than Canada, but I digress.
I fail to see how the comparison is not apt.
Both do peanuts behind the Big four. MLS does 1/4 the Revenue of the NHL which is the smallest of the big four and less than half that of the NFL.

It can't if you still keep the salary cap

It can't as a franchise system, period. There's no real way to allow a true pyramid system where each club is an entirely separate entity without completely reforming how MLS works financially which would violate the investors' rights.

True.
The teams should be owned by local companies or the municipality and own their own stadiums. Owners would never allow pro/rel

>rivalry week
i have never seen any league do something like this, what are the MLS "rivalries" that are held during that week

Feels too Americanized. They have a team called the Chicago Red Bulls for god sake.

If they didn't do it, they'd be just an European league

>Naming a team after a corporation is distinctly American
You're gonna be shocked when you see this year's UCL lineup, fren.

It's marketing to get more "hype" associated with the league.
Seattle Sounders vs. Portland Timbers actually goes back to the 70s, so it's not as manufactured as say... Orlando vs. Atlanta. Literally nothing but relative proximity makes them rivals. If MLS wants to manufacture an Orlando rivalry, at least wait until Miami is playing.
LAG vs. LAFC's "El Trafico" gets a pass because it's kind of self-deprecatingly endearing and it actually represents urban LA vs. suburban LA.
The Texas teams have a thing where whoever wins more match-ups against each other each season gets to mount a cannon in their stadium like a trophy.
And even before Cincinnati was in MLS, when their USL predecessor matched up with Columbus is the cup, they called it the "Hell is Real Derby" in reference to an infamous billboard on the highway connecting the two cities. That's okay I guess.
But yeah, everything's plastic, we have no 'istory, and the entire sport here is controlled by a corporate mafia running a ponzi scheme.

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>rivalry week
can you imagine if they tried to introduce this in a country that had actually grown-ups in it?

So the only real rivalries are
>Texas Derby
>LA Derby
>Seattle-Portland Derby

I know what you mean. It'll develop in time though I'm sure.

Fuck that. Our league should be like any American League. Force clubs to rename to traditional American franchise names. No “Inter Miami”, “DC United” bullshit.
Also focus less on tactics and skill and more on giganiggas. Also add timeouts to give said giganiggas a breather and allow more commercials that way people actually fucking invest in the league.
We should fix povertyball and show the rest of the world how it should be played. Add shot clocks. Eliminate draws. Make it 3 yellows before you get a red.

Atlanta United has all of that besides a soccer specific stadium

What a delusional example of cherrypicking. You've ignored tv ratings for foreign leagues and admitted in your own post that you're ignoring the US for no good reason

New York has modern football vs. against modern football

English football clubs were formed through working class struggle, fair enough the bigger clubs have completely sold out but these are the roots.

In America it's a transplanted sport forced by marketing executives so there's no history or organic support. It will always be a foreign sport

>league revenue is a delusional cherrypick
K bud.
explains how "the new up and coming league" is growing slower than the big four as well? or Are the NFL, NHL, NBA and MLB cherrypicks as well?
My point was that it is comparable to beer league shit as beer league shit can get more people to go to a game. Obviously the MLS makes more money by being in more US cities and being more televised
>tv ratings for foreign leagues
okay I apologize. The MLS is successful because some people watch Premiere League.
In other words, to call the XFL a dumb beer league would be an insane cherry pick because you would have ignore NFL numbers to make it true.

No team works perfectly for you but Toronto FC would be alright

Even calling them "derbies" is forced and cringe

>Would anyone else think they'd actually enjoy this league if it didn't feel so forced about everything.
The primary issue is and will always be the abysmal amateur level of play. I count more obvious and atrocious mistakes by the players in an Mls "derby" of two top teams like LAFC and NYRB than I do in a relegation English Championship match involving Wigan and Reading.

This, but not from a leaf.

Unfortunately I don't think this semen slurping sport is for me.

I hope soccer goes pro-rel because going from selling 20,000 seats in the majors to 4500 in the minors will kill the sport forever in about 5 years tops.

Is this the same faggot every time? Is there like a shitposter farm down there? WTF?

Been there, done that, still trying to sell the T-shirts, zoomer

You know this thread is cancer because the Leaf is making the most sense.

Maybe the defense is worse but alot of mls teams pass the ball more fluidly than English clubs

>pass the ball more fluidly
That's easy to do when Mls teams have joke midfielders and defenders led by managers who use terrible tactics. The Championship is a tough division of 46 games played by each team and each game is a grind - yet despite that, Championship clubs make less egregious mistakes on average than Mls teams.

>I’m an ultra! Also call the “field” the pitch

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I hate all the faggot scarfs people bring along and all the fucking flags; it’s such a poor LARPing attempt

Hasn't it been going since early 90s, surely there are some organic rivalries?

Late 90s, and no, because MLS soccer fans actually don't like sports.

Leave MLS alone, it's just a nice fun league.

>pass the ball more fluidly than English clubs
The PL probably is the hardest pressing league in the world so that isn't surprising. There's always a guy on you and all easy passing lanes are either blocked or a bait to intercept.

mls sucks and mls shills need to move on. mls is not gonna happen.

Yeah imagine if the league were to deliberately schedule two or more major derbies on the same day to appease the armchair fans, maybe call it 'Super Sunday'.

do the faggots pronounce them "darbies" too?

You chose a single team, not league revenue. And the discussion was about the sport, not the league. You're retarded.

And to add to it, the highest viewership of a lacrosse or rugby match in the US probably hasn't surpassed a million. Vs numerous soccer games with 10-25m viewers. You're fucking clueless.

pro/rel would make mls go from about a 10th rate league to about a 30th to the point where it would have zero economic viabilty. say goodbye to your $200 million franchise entrance fees keeping you afloat

no
it's a disgrace
and it's already spreading it's disease to european leagues
or at the very least, to the english league
everything now is about "muh black/white" "muh dicktaker/straight"
you all should honestly burn the whole place down and save the world from the second dark age

>A lot of whomever have no history yet the fans act as if the other supporters killed their moms when they have nothing to hate each other for YET.
This is every american sports league other than MLB.

Cringe

t. black dicktaker

>I count more obvious and atrocious mistakes by the players in an Mls "derby" of two top teams like LAFC and NYRB than I do in a relegation English Championship match involving Wigan and Reading.
I'm not a MLS fan but that's a bit of a stretch. It's competent and watchable, it's just not top tier.

>no relegation

Into the trash it goes

Rivalry Week is transparent and not fake like Sky Sports "Super Sunday" where they do the same thing but pretend they didn't rig the schedule.

Toronto FC vs Montreal impact rivalry is based more on Anglo vs French in Canadian history. Also an extension of the leafs/habs rivalry.