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If Fraudgers is so good, how come nearly all his 4th q comebacks and game winning drives are against the shitty Lions and Bears? And only one in the playoffs? LMAOing at your "goat"

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Nobody is allowed to draft Jones except me ok?

Now post Carr's

Itd be too embarrassing

He's pretty much beloved because he does represent the best physical qualities and natural talent of a QB when it comes to a general archtype. However, he has proven to not be capable of / can't be bothered to do what the best of the best have done. Specifically, he has shown that he doesn't work with his receiving core to develop timing routes and working on an individual basis to make sure they know where they need to be and where the ball will be, regardless of what the defense does. He relies on drawing defenses off-sides, catching defenses in substitution snafus, and scrambling to extend plays until receivers find themselves open. For some reason or another he can't or won't do what Peyton and Brady have turned into the Ph.D. level of QB when you don't rely on athletic abilities alone.

He's an excellent QB, but he's not in the GOAT discussion. Even ESPN level sychophants Steven A. Smith and Max K. acknowledge this. They love Rodgers and salivate over him constantly, but they realize and have stated that Aaron is just the naturally gifted "Bad Man" and not the actual GOAT.

>gimmie jee

So glad we got rid of this bust

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Hi everyone! I missed you all today at work.

pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=CarrDe02

based.

JIMMY G CATASTROPHE!!!!

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Well shit, 2016 was probably the most transparent fluke in NFL history

pro-football-reference.com/leaders/comebacks_active.htm

rooting for a team that you have absolutely no connections with just because they are good is the second most cucked thing you could do behind rooting for a team that you have absolutely no connections with just because use to be good.

>I don't have a team I just root for certain players
Is there a more cucked thing than this?

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Per source, Antonio Brown has filed a new grievance against the NFL over its attempt to prevent him from wearing any Schutt AiR Advantage helmet less than 10 years old.

p-please come to our thread it's lonely

sorry buddy I actually have a date tonight somehow

>billie belifag wanted to cut Brady for this

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If only Oakland had a complete defense that year, lots of takeaways yes but they couldn't stop a pinhole leak

game specific threads in preseason are a mistake

fuck ab tbqhwyf

Is your team frens with the pants?

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>2009 chicago
>2010 chi
>2011 nyg
>2014 dallas
>2015 seattle
>2016 dallas
>2018 chi
all good teams

>we need a change of culture
>sign multiple locker room cancers
>"it'll be different this time i s-swear"
>it comes back to fuck them before the season starts

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OH NO NO NO

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HAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

PFFFFFFFFffffthhhh no no no no no no no

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I hate looking at white people. especially old white people

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BUT IT WAS JUST IN PRACTICES
IT MEANT NOTHING

Just close your eyes, nigga.

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>Jimmy G is now 1/6 with -1 yard and 1 int
DUURRRRR BELICHICK SHOULD HAVE TRADED BRADY!!!

based vikebro

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>he thought jimmy G was a good QB

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It's preseason and he's coming off an injury

can we talk fantasy in here yet

>fantasy
>Yea Forums ----------------->

daily reminder that Belichick literally threw a super bowl

why do they all shave their legs

Malcolm Butler...isn’t good

>Antonio Brown filing a second grievance

What went right ?

fucking nothing. imagine spending money on this monkey

He was certainly better than...Johnson?...or jackson or something.
I don't remember his name, all I remember is that the guy got burned on literally every play

Butler was ass the whole year

No guarantee he would have made a difference and the bigger problem was the eagles o-line raped the patriots defensive front

Eric rowe?

Yeah everything except the offense was godawful. I blame belishit and fatricia for completely shitting the bed

>Silver & Black Pride
@SilverBlakPride
·
1h
Antonio Brown has filed another grievance with the NFL to get to wear his old helmet for another year #Raiders

are football players the most retarded?

>that imagine of John Lynch sitting in the booth with his hand on his face realizing what a mistake he made with Jimmy Faroppolo
Absolute fucking kekino

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>chark
Lol. He's got speed but no hands.

i remember an awful lot of simps here thinking the was the trade of the century

The Raiders are playoff bound if AB plays.

>another year, another excuse
>100 million dollar contract
>cant throw more than 25 yards downfield
Niners fags should never be allowed to post here again

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At least us Niners have a top 3 defense this year

really? all I remember was basically everyone stating that brown was going to make just as much trouble for any other team that got duped into signing him

>Old Man Sherman, injured rookie and Frank Clark's retarded cousin makes them a top 3 defense
niner fags should never be allowed to post here again

>Falling for the false flag
Gulla bull.

top 3 front but that secondary... oof

>not just wantonly shitposting to whatever you like
Never gonna make it

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You can only reply to this post if your team HASNT had injuries from meaningless exhibition games.

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All Vikings games are meaningless

oh yeah, I'm thinking this post is BASED

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Now that the dust has settled, is Jimmy Garopollo the next Elvis Grbac?

Preseason.

Cope

>pats getting healthy
How scared are u

>more injured players in preseason
OH NO NO NO NO

The patriots winning doesn’t bother me anymore

When something happens all the time you get used to it

why can't AB just wear a different helmet?

he uppity

>8 posts early

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Samefaggotry at it's finest. Also Cousins isn't elite.

>DK Metcalf injured before the season even begins

It's happening isn't it? The bust is starting

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>everyone who shares an opinion is disagree with is samefag

Based. HTTR.

Cant wait for the Redskins to win the nfc east and heem all you faggots this year and go exactly 8-8

not calling out the most overated QB since John Elway, lol disgusting bandwagoner

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I wonder why your graphic ends at 2012 which was 7 years ago.

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Because the post was in 2013 you blind retard

I wonder why you can't a perfect season, lol soooooooooooo 18-1hurt

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Which is why it's irrelevant. Congrats on making yourself look like a complete idiot.

did he ever react to 28-3 or was he gone by then?

Take the Russ Wilson redpill

>Tom Brady said he has been "working" on left-handed and no-look passes like Patrick Mahomes, and they may be in his repertoire this season.

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He's not even close to good enough to pull that off at his age

BASED

you're small white penis is irrelvant, but that doesn't stop you from jacking of to Tom Brady you cake boy

Why would I respond to games that are fixed by refs, lol astericks

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Yikes. Would return fire, but dont want to insult an actual retard

Bills > Jets

>using buzzwords, calling anyone retarded

Pretty weak tbqh

>Completely blown out with facts, has to reply with insults

>facts = your worthless opinion

Ignores the image with the facts

like how girls ignore your small white dick = fact :*)

> I too remember my first beer

> I will always remember your 18-1hurt
lol

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They've moved like a real football so far.

jim g garflaffle mo is kinda crap actually, huh?

Shut up, he can throw downfield. Just not to his team ;)

no

> thinks have to be Pats fan to think Brady is GOAT

Only small minded people jealous of success hate Tom Brady. You should feel privileged you got to see him play.

prove it

fuck off shill

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>he roots for another man's dick to be in his gf's vagina because its better
>calls something else cucked
Wew lad, fuckin wew

His success is due to great coaching and stability. he absolutely would not have ended up like this on any other team

Well he's the highest payed player in the NFL, it would only stand to reason he is the best player, or else that franchise would look foolish.

>Tom brady gets hurt for year. Pats miss playoffs
>Belichick was a meme coach with the Browns.

Right. Brady is clutch. He's a winner. The stats dont lie.

which is why disgusting bandwagoners can never accept that Peyton Manning was the real goat, lol Mannings > choker

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Well that definetly takes pressure off of
>84 million

>needing refs and a field goal kicker to bail you out
lol clutch

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Peyton manning was known for choking at every level he played. He went 5 and 11 vs Brady. Played horrible in every super bowl but 1.

Meanwhile it's been statistically proven Brady is the most clutch qb in the NFL.

>Today I learned kickers kick 90 yard field goals

Eli

Once again I destroyed these pathetic disgsuting bandwagoners tonight. You're Welcome Yea Forums

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Have Six

>quarterbacks play each other

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if he is so clutch then why couldn't he win the one game that mattered, owned again disgusting bandwagoner

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He will never recover from this

Quarterback stats are competing with each other each game, yes

>Be a statue behind best offensive line every year
>Have unlimited time to throw checkdowns to wide open receiver

Literally nobody except Tom Brady could do this

>6 other Super Bowls don't matter

Wew lads

Except when he got hurt they missed the playoffs. How's the weather on denial island?

>6 astericks
lol sooooooooo 18-1hurt

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bitchknees is ban evading again without his trip in this thread

Patriots winning percentage in SB: .545.

Good for 12th overall. Pretty embarrassing actually.

They won 11 games dumbfuck

Why lie? Brady has 66% SB winning

Tell my the lie fuck face.

Did they make the playoffs? No.

Yes that Super Bowl with Parcells is relevant to Brady

Where is the lie?

>So desperate he has to include Super Bowls Brady didnt play in

Well, of course not. Doesn't matter how good the QB is, whether your the best ever or top 10. Getting to 9 superbowls and winning 6 is just ridiciulous and clearly more than just one player.

Where did I say Brady did play in them? You've now proven yourself to be a bandwagon fan. You probably didn't care about the Pats before Brady and you won't after he leaves. You's fairweather you fake ass fan lol.

>Getting to 9 superbowls and winning 6 is just ridiciulous and clearly more than just one playe
it's called cheating

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You mean the team bailing illegal aliens out of jail?

Certainly wouldnt surprise me if there was something else going on. I mean I get they've got an all time great QB, all time greaf coach, great system/players, well run org etc etc, but this is the NFL and by time they retire its gonna be 10+ SB's. Thats just silly in this sport.

My boy Deebo is going to have his career wasted by having a shitty QB throwing to him, isn't he?

Thanks for the hot take.

Where did I say I was a Pats fan? I said the opposite

Stay blasted muttholms, you'll never throw like the GOAT

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Manning lost a superbowl by 35 fucking points to the same team Brady destroyed the following year

Do you realize how stupid you look? The conversation was about Brady being the GOAT and clutch. Who cares about the Pats 10 years before him. Try and keep up.

>brady destroyed the seahawks
no. The hawks had brady, so did atlanta, but they pissed their game away with dumn coaching and an extremely dumb fucking play by wilson he wishes to have back

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>Same team.

Good throw.

Guy has so few that when he does have one people lose their damn minds.

>3/8 for 12 yards

Why the actual fuck do teams keep falling for the Mableton QB meme?

Murry is legit 5' 8" with the iq of a baboon

SEETHING

Imagine using this retarded of an argument.

not seething, just stating what happened. Brady is amazing, but he has his faults. He should've lost in 2014 and 2016, but thats the way the game is played.

They were

On the other hand Brady's supporting cast was far weaker than Peytons. It's honestly to this day the most embarrassing superbowl collapse in history. Highest scoring offense ever managed 8 points against the LOB. Brady went for 28. It was fucking divine

Every team that wins should have lost because the other team made mistakes! Epic!

ITT 16 year olds arguing

I have starter jackets older than you. Dont ever post your stupid fucking opinion on here again.

The 2013 Broncos were worse and much more injury-ridden than than the 14 Pats.

And the Seahawks team was near unbeatable in 13, but 14 nowhere near.

Put Brady in that 13 Bowl and Broncos still get blown out. Put 13 Peyton on the 14 Pats and good chance he wins too.

wait fuck 2017 not 2016.
they can because you capitalize off of them. A stupid team doesnt, a smart team takes advantage of them

Manlet*

No they werent you idiot. 14 Hawks were much more injury ridden and they werent as good.

And Peyton had the 20 something defense with like 7 starters out, Brady had the 8th ranked D with Beli as his coach. Better supporting cast fuck outta here your American know what your fucking talkinh about senpai.

Just double down on that dogshit opinion breh. Take it to the grave.

Peytons last two superbowls were a disgrace, don't fucking kid yourself. Brady would have given the seachimps a better fight in 13 with either team because Brady isn't a psychologically frail turboautist hopped up on HGH

why is that?

Peyton Manning is Lebron James, Arguably the most talented ever, but a complete mental midget that breaks down when it matters most.

Peyton's body was falling apart in the 15 Bowl so no shit he wasn't very good. God do you idiots even think before posting? Its like you've never even heard of context.

And almost everyone in the league is on peds, so who gives a fuck if Peyton was? Clutching at straws.

Lebron has 3 rings and came from 3-1 down to beat a 73-9 team. His finals stats are goat worthy.

'Mental midget' wtf?

What part of highest scoring offense in league history are you not getting Achmed?

8 (eight) fucking points. Peyton combined for 10 points in his last two owl trips.

>b-but the dfence

You mean the same defense that gave a touchdown in 1 minute to a fucking CFL reciever before halftime? The defense that let the seachimps march 80 yards in 80 seconds before the end of regulation?

Don't make me laugh you anglo faggot

Lollll how many finals has he been to? He had to join wade and bosh to win finally, then needed Kyrie to bail him out when it was needed most. That's my entire point.

Who made the shot when it mattered? You probably think Lebron is better than Jordan too. You're either a complete idiot or under the age of 22

LeBron needed to be kicked in the dick and called a bitchass nigger before he wanted to compete. He has no internal fire

>acting like Kyrie didn't win the game

When the bulls needed a shot to win, it was always Jordan.

When it was for the cavs, it was kyrie

Its being proven time and time again defense wins championships. The 13 Owl was literally one of the best D's ever at their absolute peak. Sure Peyton and the offense should have done more, but his 20+ ranked D with 7 starters out was leaking points left and right. He was never gonna win anyway.

That Pats D was 8th and the Seahawks were injured af and were dropping like flies. You'd know this if you even watched it back then. 'They were the same team' you can use xenophobic slurs all you want couldnt give a shit I'm not a nationalist, but if you actually thought they were the same team then you're pathetically wrong, fact.

Who's a bigger bust at this point, garapolo or murry

Jordan never won a ring without Pippen. Its a team sport much like football. Jordan's better than Lebron but then again Jordan never faced teams as good as these Warriors.

The hot takes during the pre-season are literally laughable. Wait till the season starts breh.

Why did John Ross go 9th overall? With as badly as he's played you'd think the Bengals wouldn't have invested as much draft capital in him as they did

Is it just because of "le fast combine man" meme? Was he highly lauded for other reasons?

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Why doesn't Favre ever get the choker tag like Peyton? He fucked away so many playoff games with dumb plays, 6 ints fucking lol. And Peyton made 4 SB's to 2.

Favre choked harder much more than Peyton, even if neither are super clutch.

How many Finals game winning shots did Pippen make?

How many all NBA defensive player awards has Lebron won?

You could hand check when MJ played, play real defense. They had real men at Center. MJ is on a completely different level than Lebron.

Jordan never had to play 70 win teams, because we was the 70 win team.

Oh spare me you brainlet. The backbreaker TD in superbowl 48 came on special teams, Broncos defense had nothing to do with it

>hurrr seachimps were hurt in 14

So were the patriots and the biggest injury to Lane happened in the owl. It was a freak accident. Avril wound up in concussion protocol because he hadn't been trained to hide it like Edleman did. Sherman was banged up but guess what, they threw one (1) fucking ball at him. Chancellor and Earl Thomas both played outstanding and Wagner had a pick. Meanwhile the Patriots were on a backup center who was cut in the offseason and they had to rotate Malcolm Butler into the secondary because of how absolutely pisspoor Revis and Ryan were playing (you'll remember that Revis got picked by the fucking ref)

You're making retarded excuses because you know Peyton completely failed to account for himself against the Seahawks. First snap of the game went over his head and he literally never recovered

Dude I agree, I'm a Bulls fan who watched his 96-98 run live. Hes the goat.

But while Bron isnt the most clutch, saying he's a mental midget is pretty unfair to a Mt Rushmore player.

That first play wasn't Peyton's fault though. He was calling an audible and the snapper fucked up.

Butler was put in because Kyle Arrington got cut midway through the game and was never heard from again.

How has Lebron not built an extremely convincing body of evidence of collapsing or deferring to another player when the game was on the line?

Lebron is an amazing player, probably the 2nd best of all time, but one thing he's not is clutch. He simply doesn't have the clutch gene, just like Manning.

Add Marino. He's in most people's top 5-7 and he choked hard in the playoffs. Was never the same player. Rarely gets brought up.

Very truth, Mario is another great example of immense talent, but not having it where it counts

In elimination games he averages 34 points, 11 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 blocks and a steal with a record of 14-9. Pretty darn good.

shoo shoo new kiwifag

I'm here with you vikesbros

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It is funny though.

The 2 most clutch QB's in history (Montana/Brady) both have the best coaches, best defenses, best teams/systems and are part of dynasties.

Coincidence? Maybe. Maybe not.

Look up his stats in the final quarter of those games. It's pretty shocking.

LOL

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Lol it wasn't an insult. Brady and Brees rarely have amazing, highlight worthy throws. Their style is more death by a thousand cuts slowly grinding you away, and its incredibly effective.
But when they do throw an amazing pass, people go crazy cause its so rare. I mean if it happened all the time people wouldn't go crazy would they?

Not knocking Brady chill, I know how sensitive and triggered his fans can be.

Manning has directly thrown INTs to lose those games, or played absolutely terrible.

Also Belichick was a meme coach with the Browns. Let's see how he does when Brady retires before you make that claim.

Is there a more overrated, shit QB like Mariota? Guy is pure ass on a good team. Not sure how anyone can rate that shitter.

We won't get to see that unfortunately. Brady/BB will retire together. The whole 'Who is more responsible for the dynasty?' will live on forever.

Idk Belichick sure seems to be/wanting to prepare for life after Brady, I think he wants to prove to everyone it's not Brady.

I hope we get to see

Cam

You gon learn today

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Jordan what a Legend

Fair enough. Proved me wrong. No shame in that. Came in with reciepts.

I'll admit defeat. :|

where am I

Did he seriously go 3 for 3 game winning shots facing elimination? That's absurd

>1/6 0 td 1 int
>1 billion dollar contract
>also traded a second round pick
jimmy g has fucked way more people than whatever porn star he was dating

Lmaooo

What did he mean by this?

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He need some milk

what's the ceiling for my guys, the Houston Texans?

Lose to Oklahoma in the Red River Shootout, 1 win away from making the Big 12 Championship Game

>His success is due to great coaching and stability
True, but him and Belichick forged that stability in New England together. It didn't exist before them, and it certainly did not exist during Belichick's first year without Brady when he went 5-11. Belichick needed a charismatic guy like Brady to be selfless and disciplined by example in order for the rest of the team to fall in line.

Guys I'm starting to think that Jimmy Garoppolo is a bit overrated

You should say "Giants", not Eli. Eli is nowhere close to being the reason the Giants beat the Patriots in 2007. Here's Eli's stats:

Eli's regular season passer rating average: 73.9
Eli's Super Bowl passer rating: 87.3
Average passer rating for the entire league in 2007: 82.6

Eli was a *worse* than average, bottom 3rd QB during 2007's regular season and he played about as well as an average NFL quarterback against the Patriots. It's so bizarre to me that nobody ever says Eli was carried to that ring, because he absolutely was.

*wins*
>"c-carried!!"
*wins again*
blow it out your ass

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Nathan Peterman is currently the best QB in California

>Why doesn't Favre ever get the choker tag like Peyton?
>Add Marino. He's in most people's top 5-7 and he choked hard in the playoffs
Probably because neither of those guys are ever seriously brought up in contention with Brady, where Peyton Manning is frequently used as a direct comparison.

It's primarily because in overall accomplishment, neither of those guys is anywhere close to the top 2, especially not Marino. You can argue his passer potential, but he never got anywhere aside from getting fucking destroyed by Montana in the owl.

Marino finished a shockingly terrible 1-6(.142) in road playoff games. There's just no question that there's a massive gap between guys like Marino/Favre and Brady so nobody bothers arguing it.

Are slavs even human?

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>Mariota? Guy is pure ass on a good team
I do feel bad for the Titans. They are actually quite good. They faced a ton of playoff teams last year in the regular season, and came out with a 4-5 record against those teams(with 4 of those games being on the road). So more than half of their regular season was playoff teams last year...and they still finished 9-7. Mariota is totally the weak link too.

Pathetic.

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He wasn't carried in 2011. He was above average and earned it. In 2007, he was not.

Just like how your ‘not’ a Virgin? Yeah, get out of here you joker.

Being anally devastated isn't an argument. Eli was bad in 2007 and the rest of the Giants team carried Eli to that ring. You can say he earned that 2011 one, because he played phenomenally that year, but he didn't in 2007. If people are going to call out Brady for getting carried vs the Rams and Peyton for getting carried to his final ring, it baffles me how it's never mentioned that both Roethlisberger and Eli got carried to rings too.

OMG WHY DO YOU DRAFT SO EARLY?!?!? MY LEAGUE DOESNT DRAFT UNTIL THE THIRD WEEK OF THE NEXT YEAR! WTF? WHY DRAFT NOW??!

so they can scissor more efficiently without getting rug burns

Cringe

Also
>jimmy g

>timid, shy, virgin turns out to suck at a Chad sport
Shocker

13-3 if everyone stays healthy and Luck is out for the year. So probably 9-7 if you’re lucky

He wants to set expectations low so people think he’s bad, then he’ll come out and torch the league. 3D chess at its finest

>meaningless games
>vikings games
The difference?

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To be fair he did have a lot of touchdowns in college but that was more so to do with Chris Petersen being an elite coach than anything else

? what does Jimbo have to do with anything

multiple championships for the chiefs very soon my friends

Say something nice about him

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Good thing we have your take on a single preseason game with a sketchy Offensive line and his first NFL snaps in 330 days what the rest of the year will be like.

>His punter doesn't just body people with perfect form tackling

>forgetting Rivers
Also Nate Pete may be the worst QB to ever start multiple games in the NFL. Goff, Carr, and Jimmy G may all suck, but they aren't Peterman tier.

How do I get over my ex girlfriend and break up? I feel like my soul has been shredded into 10 million pieces.

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just takes time bro. any other answer is wrong unfortunately.

stay strong

depends what you consider choking
favre put his team in positions to win way more often, just lost a lot of close games with bad plays. manning straight sucked in too many playoff games
rather have playoff favre

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I cant imagine the stress of being paid that much with that little playtime, coming off an injury in the very match you're playing now but last year that sidelined you for 330+ fucking days. If he came back and torched the field it'd be insane. He'll come around, who cares.

The 2019 Giants playing Eli instead of Jones is going to work out just as well as the 2016 Rams playing Case Keenum instead of Goff.

>0.0 qb rating in a preseason game
>$75 million guaranteed

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>preseason
>guy who hasn't played in a year

Fuck off, retard

>cope
9ers are in the #tankfortua after last night

It’s insane how much better the team looks with DJ

They’re paying Eli 23 million this year and I have no earthly clue why

>Tua
they need another WR?

>5 picks
>"its just practice"
lol how is it beneficial to practice throwing interceptions?

Well they're still completitions. So he just needs to aim for the right uniforms now.

It's beneficial to understand what lead up to those interceptions and how he can manage it better.

Because John Mara invites Archie Manning into the owner's suite for every home game and the last time his dick got hard was the nfc championship game in 2012.

It's really detrimental to the team when you get emotionally attached to aging veterans on your roster who aren't playing up to task. It's even worse when you have the answer to your problems sitting on the bench.

Guess who the highest graded OT in the preseason so far is

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Tom Brady.

>he is going to remember how to play football any day now
>we outsmarted Belichick, you just have to be patient

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>Bill Belichick and Tom Brady made up a scandal in the Pats organization to get better/more draft picks and fuck the 49ers
Lmao. Devious. I support it.

>practice throwing interceptions
>throw interception on first drive
Obviously not working too well

Eagles fan here, stop being a faggot it's only preseason.

literally who?

Chiefs wife receiver

>and I have no earthly clue why
It COULD have something to do with the fact that he signed a 4 year contract in 2015

>6. Bills

wouldn't expect anything less from a meth head

The Houston Oilers play in Tennessee

maybe they should start sacking him in practice so he gets used to it. fucking retard.

Multiple reasons including a really really bad ref call.

The real question is how anyone can say Brady isn't the most clutch player of all time after 28-3

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>0.0 qb rating
NONONONONO

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>6. Bills

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>garrapohno

>Jimmy G a bust
>Stidham is the best rookie out of the entire pack
Literally how the fuck do they keep getting away with it?

Remember how good Matt Cassell looked on the Patriots?

oh no no no

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No, because he wasn't playing with backups. He was playing on one of the best teams ever assembled and he played like dogshit compared to Brady. Literally about 50% offensive production. The only people that say Cassell did well on the Patriots are casuals that don't pay attention.

>they don't count if it's not my team

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Whose wife did he catch?

And yet people scrambled all over themselves to acquire him
Just like Handsome Jim

Which is sad, because Cassell with one of the best offenses ever only managed 21 TD 11 INT and 63% cmp%. Fucking terrible. The Patriots are experts at pawning off busts.

Well he probably has more stats to draw from against those teams, because gee, I dunno, they're in the same division? Wow

>never mentioned

Wtf? Everyone and their mom bitches Eli "was carried by his defense." Hell, they say this about 2011 even though it was clear to anyone with eyes he carried the team largely on his back that year.

Roethlisberger is the one who is always ignored. He's hyped up, yet in both of his SB wins he was carried by everyone around him. Hell, he played AWFUL in XL against the Seahawks. At least Eli got MVP in both of his SB wins. Roethlisberger, if I'm correct, is the only QB to win 2 superbowls as a starter and not win MVP either time.

Also Captain Fat Fuck made 7 pro bowls, but only 1 came before Antonio Brown was on the team. Brown is a mental head-case locker room cancer, but I believe he made Ben look 1000x better than he was for the last 9 or so years.

what is the tweet in the corner?

they lost this game lol
FINS UP FUCK NIGGERS

Andre Dillard

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>He thinks they intentionally threw interceptions in practice
Who is the retard here?

Why is Baker so scared of Daniel Jones?

gq.com/story/baker-mayfield-is-feeling-dangerous-profile

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my suggestion is to use the emotion to make something creative. draw, write, design something. just try to be productive in general, also. this feeling just takes a lot of time to get through and you don't want to look back and realize you just wallowed in it.

God I hate that little gremlin. He's accomplished nothing yet still runs his mouth.

that, too. i went through a horrible breakup, channelled that into weightlifting and i've done it for 7 years. honestly one of the best things that ever happened to me. it helped a lot

>toxins
Ohnonono

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renaissance man.

>flash forward 10 years
>Danny is 3x SB MVP and winner
>Baker constantly chokes in AFC Championship but still runs his mouth
>Danny: "It's always good to hear from ol' Baker."

My favorite Baker moment was when Ben Boulware kneed him in the helmet after intercepting him in the Clemson / OKU bowl game a handful of years ago.

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He went from one of my favorite players in the nfl to my least favorite and I hope that team is dream team 2.0 and implodes

I see it now
>Browns start strong. Get cocky
>lose 2-3 games in a row
>Odell starts having his hissy fits
>Baker initially tries cooling him down, but soon gets defensive when Odell takes his anger out on him (or vents to the media)
>Baker and OBJ continue to be at each other's throats for rest of season
>finish 8-8. just good enough for final AFC wild card spot
>get BTFO 49-3 by Jaguars and Big Dick Nick
>fall back to irrelevancy the next season by going 5-11
>Odell demands trade to Rams

youtube.com/watch?v=Mt3IvOhKsfk

can't wait

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Jones was easily the best qb in the draft, I was pissed when they drafted them. It was obvious to anyone who actually watches CFB and watched him played vs Clemson (before he got hurt) and watched him absolutely give the long dick to Temple in the bowl game.

Hivemind is the worst. People jumping on him because media laughs at them.

>Jones was easily the best qb in the draft

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Meanwhile Haskins played for one year, under a literal offensive genius, and in a conference that never produces good NFL QBs.

>SEC QB
"No"

>duke anything
No

Finley from NC State has also looked good in Preseason for the Bengals

We’re talking about Jarett “I hate niggers” Stidham

2 of starting 32 QBs are from the big 10

His comeback vs the bears last season was handed to him by the refs. I have not seen a more deliberately rigged game in my 25 years of watching football.

-Kirk Cousins
-Tom Brady

Russ Wilson played 4 years at NC State and 1 year at Wisconsin, he's ACC

Why is the big 10 so bad at producing NFL QBs?

They don't call it the rust belt for nothing

That same conference produced Brady, Brees, Cousins, and Wilson? Conference has no effect on QB success.

cousins lucked into having sean mcvay as an offensive coordinator and a great receiving core that led to them having a top 3 offense and winning the division.

I'd love to hear how
>inb4 holding
the bears were propped up as the leagues golden boys last season as if they werent an embarrassment of a historic franchise for the last 30 years and total paper tigers. why on earth would the league rig a game against them?

You're a gigantic faggot

Wilson played 4 years in ACC, that's why he dominated the Big 10 the 1 year he played in it.

He's an ACC QB

Its just one girl user, theres plenty out there. And if it didnt work out, it was never meant to. Takes time to heal. Just be patient and vigilant.

>cousins
>brees
>good

McVay was so good, the Redskims actually won the NFC east. What a prodigy.

LOL at calling Wilson a Big 10 QB. Clearly an ACC QB.

The fuck are you talking about? Wilson is from the big 10. Get the fuck out of here, retard.

>8 posts early

He was a Badger for one season, even if it was a great season that doesn't change the fact that he played in NC for most of his college career

He played 4 year and 36 games at NC State. He played 1 year at Wisconsin and 14 games.

Lurk moar brainlet

>doesn't watch CFB

No.

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Ok boomer

Lol at how much his PCT and YPA went up. Big 10 is a meme conference.

>bu bu but he played one year at Wisconsin

>can't wait

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Anyone else here black?

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>talking about Big 10 quarterbacks
>forgetting the best one of all

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Literally proving my point lol

>4 years in ACC
>1 year in Big 10

Please lurk more.

Brainlet retards. Get the hell out of here....

Really scared for today's youth. Shocking how low IQ they are. Where did we go wrong? When did 1 become more than 4?

How can we fix this epidemic?

It's all because of common core man

youtu.be/3Ze7jEdz5VQ

OH NO NO NO NO

LMAO he got slammed against that wall pretty hard. Haven't taken the time to actually watch it before. His screeching about "didn't do nothing!" is pretty hilarious.

Replaying the 7-8 second part is fantastic.

>caring about amateur sports
ncaa autists fuck off please

Why do people say shit like, "We won" when their team wins? Do they think that their team winning makes them a winner by extension?

Great rebuttal

While I agree that Jones will probably be a bust, but Baker is still a douche

i dont need a rebuttal for stupid ass nonsense... facts...

How stupid are they?

He's actually taking action by becoming a minority owner in NFL team. Change happens through actions, not yelling how woke you are.

Why is he so high IQ and they're so low IQ?

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thanks for letting us know

No problem

Derek Anderson and Braylon Edwards would like a word with you.

Because they don't want solutions, they want to be mad. Hyper emotional retards.

>He can't just buy preseason tickets on a whim to have a fun day of tailgating and drinking with the boys
Imagine not living close to your """favorite""" team and considering yourself a real fan

Are the Browns and Giants in the same division this year?

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You mean the fact that Wilson only played one year in the Big 10?

Sad but true.

>tfw none of my friends give a fuck about football

I never listened to Jay-Z growing up and remember Nas MURDERING him on "Ether". I did listen to some of the radio songs like "Big Pimpin'" because he was on there with Bun-B.... anyway I remember when he got the girl from Destiny's Child and then I forgot about them. It wasn't until Obama and the rest of the popular people who became "woke" during the 8 years of Obama that I started to hate them all. Same with Trump all the rappers loved him until he ran for president. Such many cases! Sad!

Maybe you shouldn't be friends with a bunch of queers then
just a thought user

They see any hand-in-hand cooporation and solution finding as weakness and a distraction. Eric Reid wants Kap to not have faced any consequences for what he did and is making his continued keeling about getting him reinstated. JayZ making money and garnering connections while also being a part of a solution is looked down on as being an Uncle Tom, which is just stupid. It's all about making noise until the NFL makes changes on their own and capitulates to demands. It's all a big joke at this point because nothing of true value will ever come from an actual non-issue on the NFL's part. They should be working with community activists and grass-roots programs, not acting like the NFL is primarily responsible.

joe montana lost to an 8-7 vikings team in the 87 playoffs (the naners had the best defense in the nfl that year too)

Everyone has their poop days

The only true "woke" rapper is Kanye West. Doesn't live on a mental plantation

>Nailed it

it's not 2007 anymore

>Browns living in New York rent free
Based Browns.

Kanye tries too hard.

Lyrics from Saint Pablo. No he's high IQ af.

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Fuck off.

The biggest crime in the history of American sports was committed by the Miami Dolphins. The sheer lack of talent they gave Marino was fucking sickening. After Duper and Clayton left there was no one worth a shit offensively on that team, and their defense had no talent until 96. You can’t go far in the playoffs if you’re handing the ball to a guy who changed his name to match a basketball legend and your best receiver is OJ McDuffie.

Damn that's deep

you mean the fact that your a total moron...?

Might actually have to listen to Kanye now

>your

>using the wrong your WHILE calling somebody a moron
I have no idea what's going on in this argument, I will NOT scroll up and read it.
But you just lost

>Damn it's real

*dabs on Wentz*

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Oh shit, does Dak have the clutch gene?

No but he can shit on the Eagles which makes everyone happy.

He's no Tim Tebow

>Low IQ

Unironically has the clutch gene

Actually a good song too

youtu.be/w9rzz4pDFwA

Wentz has also been injured for like 50% of his career

He's unironically a musical genius. 15 years ahead of everyone else.

Thanks user, very cool

>It was just practice, it means nothing
>It was just preseason, it means nothing

And Dak hasn't missed a single day. Superior genetics to be honest

Wentz is overpaid but I feel as though they did it because it would make Dak jealous. Dak's been receiving the lowest paychecks of any starting playoff QB so I see his gripe, but he's not worth more than Wentz's contract.

Occasional reminder

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It's because the women are so ugly

>media constantly asking them questions about the Giants
>surprised when they respond by talking about the Giants

It's because Lions fans are so used to mediocrity that they've numbed themselves.

Nothing makes me laugher harder than faggot homers whining that they can't enjoy football anymore because "we" can't possibly do better than 4-12 this year

shut up faggot leaf you don't get an opinion. At least I have a team to root for.

Hey bucme

STOP LISTENING RAP

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Johnson Bademosi I guess

I don't really understand why the Packers/Raiders are playing a game in Winnipeg this week. It doesn't gain either team anything, and the CFL players are probably mildly pissed that they're rolling up on them.

Is this nigga dead or what?

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top 4 based AF

I feel the nfl might have pushed for it since the packers havent played in london yet. idk about raiders though

can we stop the game winning drive meme? Good QBs dont need them because they arent complete shit in the first 3 qtrs

Because Canada should get games before London.

this and theyre entirely dependent on the defense keeping the game close

>implying i'll talk to the fags on Yea Forums

Fucking HYPED for the new Tool album my dudes. Also, who dat.

You can be a shit QB and still need to do game winning drives if your defense blows retard

>tfw tool finally on Spotify

Following a single team is honest to god pea brained shit. Imagine choosing to sit through something like Eagles at Lions out of a sense of duty as a fan

>sense of duty
it's like you don't even know what being a fan of something is jesus christ I'm sorry for you

>leaf can't understand being a fan
Lmao

Well that's easy. Just don't be a fan of shit teams

raiders probably just don't want to be in oakland more than they have to

if you're going to play somewhere different, don't go to a city in Canada with a big CFL team, go to Hawaii or North Dakota or something

to be frank, this makes sense if you're a foreigner. it's how i watch european soccer.

It's simple actually, if you aren't a homer you just pick whatever team seemed to be the best when you started watching and try to convince yourself you still care 20 years after they stop being good. There's a reason there isn't a single cowboys fan under 40

It just seems way more fun and natural to see how rivalry games and close matchups will play out rather than wondering what kind of numbers a particular team will pull this time.

So, he was in big 10? Thanks for proving my point yet again!

>There's a reason there isn't a single cowboys fan under 40

Or Seahawks fans over 40

>8 posts early

>bandwagoning is a good thing!
I can't believe anybody actually has this opinion

>a fucking leaf

>this is muhh favorite team because daddy always told me so!
Ok boomer

>implying I'm a fan because my dad is and not because I've grown up with memories and experiences that involve my favorite team
jesus christ I've never been more disappointed in this pathetic general

It really is ridiculous. Oh look at me I'm an edgelord.

What's the entire point of watching sports and being a fan, if it isn't sharing it with the people you love or talking shit to your friends.

Retard. If I live in the middle of nowhere I'm not gonna roll with my nearest "local" team that's 200 miles away and hasnt won a playoff game since 1990. It's not bandwagoning to pick another team. Same as the leaf or europoor who watches NFL. They have to pick a team so maybe you should just deal with it old man

I hated watching hockey growing up because the only games I would ever get to see or hear about were my local team's games when they basically haven't been good since the time I was born. TV sports didn't actually click with me until much later when I started watching the NFL and spent time learning about the history behind the teams when I could simply have decided to become a Pats fan instead

I like the sport itself way more than I like any single team, and I can still banter with fans of teams just fine

OBJ is a douchebag but he's not wrong about mara and the gnast. Terrible organization full of stupid ass people

I'm a chiefs fan because I
>Grew up in Kentucky
>Thought it lame to follow a sports team outside your state
>Closest options anyways were the Colts and Titans
>Texans were cooler
>I'm not gonna even mention ohio teams
>Fuck Ohio
>Peyton manning rubbed me the wrong way as a kid
>Follow only college sports since I lived in Louisville until I moved to Kansas at the ripe young age of 16
>Louisville wins College BB championship month before I move
>Start following the 2013 Royals closely after I moved
>Pick up Chiefs same time
>Felt good to have a close by sports team I could get to in under 40 minutes
>Am now a Kansas City sports fan for life
>Will watch the Royals play dozens on dozens of games every year that they lose

Still way better than kid me having picked some fucking loser team in Ohio, Indiana, or god forbid Tennessee. When I lived in Kentucky I bandwagoned the packers during the NFL season cause Brett Favre was cool, and my brothers were vikings fans due to being born in Minnesota. I never really felt any real closeness to the Packers though, and didn't even celebrate that hard, or like I did in 2015 when the Royals won the WS at all.

Nice blog.

The best part of being a fan, is when following a shitty team, and they finally win. There's nothing better. Bandwagon fans will never understand this.

This, I can watch a good team win whenever, there's plenty of them every year, but watching MY team win is the best feeling. Bandwagon fags are just autists who don't understand emotions.

I've been a Xecucks fan since the 90s, can confirm it's a great feeling

Do you think they don't?

>tfw Patriots fan since I was a kid in the 80s
>tfw my worst in the league team was built into the greatest sports dynasty of all time
Yes it feels great

Does anyone seriously question why Brady and Rodgers are worlds apart after watching these interviews?

youtube.com/watch?v=o8CrKP_3YPw

youtube.com/watch?v=JmuNarXQG9c

Aaron isn't charismatic at all. He's introverted and aloof. Which is fine for being an individual expert, but he's just not a good leader personality type. This is the type of guy who IS better than other people, but rather than elevate anyone else, will feel secure in their own superiority since they will never be at "fault" for failure. He intrinsically doesn't know how to elevate other players and he doesn't even want to. Aaron is a better suited personality for other positions, but his talent lies in throwing. That's why he will always be an amazing passer and just a good quarterback where Tom Brady is a great passer but the greatest quarterback of all time.

"Just a good QB"

Rodgers is a great QB. Just not the greatest.

Correct

2016 was so much fun til, I was so happy that everything I did I enjoyed, all my energy was evident, it was pure joy but then it had to end, as good things often do, very satisfying to see >my raiders do well after years of pain and suck, I feel for lions and browns fans man

Unironically call into some show and share this opinion

fucking memefield

Why does baker make everyone seethe so much? He’s cocky but damn you’d think he fucked everyone’s nonexistent gfs

I think it's because at first his trash talk was invigorating because he was coming to a losing franchise and turning it around. The problem is he's doing it a little too much when he really hasn't accomplished anything yet. He's not going to bust or anything, but he runs his mouth a little too much and he's wearing out his cocky charm at this point by firing too many shots without really having any clout himself yet.

It's great that he did pretty well his first year and showed he won't bust and can pass the ball, but he might want to at least make the playoffs before running his mouth any more than he has.

That attitude doesn't have lasting power. He'll learn to stfu after he gets humbled. It's a different league when there's tape on you. Would be cool to see Browns do well, but he's gotten pretty cringe.

>4 minute high.

Embarrassing

You would think the Browns won the super bowl, going by their fans. Even the Eagles fans weren't this bad and they actually won the super bowl.

Brady will humble him. Don’t you worry.

Hahaha Baker confirmed to be based and misquoted everyone here is a Reddit mark

More like his own division. Good luck, they play real football in that division outside of Cincy, and even they have good games sometimes.

Any TEs on the bubble that the Pats can poach?

Yeah Vernon Davis when the Skins cut him. Still producing at high level, just too big of cap number.

>Wentz wins most of his games in 2017 by multiple scores
>WHY DOESN'T HE HAVE MORE GAME WINNING DRIVES?

Wentz is a hack lol

This t.bh

Join the /nfl/-/ffg/ server lads
discord.gg/Bwqbcb

Cowboy fans should feel fortunate that they'll be getting Dak for a lot cheaper after he regresses this year. Maybe they'll be lucky enough to move off him and Garrett altogether

PANTS
OWL
ODD YEAR MEME

Why would I do this it defeats the whole point of using an anonymous imageboard

>discord faggot is back

Baker Mayfield said:

"Some people overthink it. That's where people go wrong. They forget you've gotta win."

Yet Daniel Jones has a better bowl record and bowl performances than Baker.

What did he mean by this?

Hahaheheheh....

You mean... the chaos emeralds? I'm assuming you're talking about the chaos emeralds. Because I just happen to have them all, right here

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Giants forgot how to win.

2016 was amazing when the owl odds mimicked the presidential odds and whites won both times

People don't unironically rate Duck Poopscott, do they?

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CHAOS CONTROL

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>college bowls
>relevant
Remember when Johnny Football won the Cotton Bowl?

>caring and/or knowing specifics about amateur sports
Shiggy diggy doo. Why is there ncaa autism itt?

"They forget you've gotta win."

Baker:
1-3 in Bowl Games
5 tds 4 Ints

Jones:
2-1 in bowl games
10 tds 2 ints

Many reasons
>captcha free chat
>less obnoxious posters
>a place of refuge for those banned here
You only need a verified email to join.

I hate that the Giants drafted him. Fucking sucks. He's going to be good. Plays big in big games, played with meme talent at Duke.

>>a place of refuge for those banned here
Are you ban evading, user?

What kind of scale is being used when the line representing 4 minutes is 4x the length of the one representing 2 minutes?

>Jones playing in the Kellogg’s Frosted Flakes bowl against Cal
>Baker playing in the sugar bowl against bama
Not really comparable

Doesn't matter. Flash is back, which means they'll just go pre-gronk Moss style

That's cool. Except Johnny Football ran for 300 yds in his two bowl games and had 3 rushing tds. Irrelevant.

My slate is clean.

Remember Doug Flutie?

Also you can't put that Rose bowl loss on Baker, it was a breakdown from a game plan perspective

>discord
>less obnoxious
pick one

Jones playing with literal scrubs, Baker playing with top D1 talent.

Baker played Auburn, Georgia lol not Alabama. Seriously way to embarrass yourself.

>Less obnoxious posters
I think you'd be surprised

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Didnt play against Bama, was UGA

Baker also lost to Clemson in the 2015 season playoff semifinal game, and got kneed in the head by Ben Boulware after an interception.

Baker bowl performances are pretty terrible.

They never played Alabama though, was UGA, Auburn, Clemson

Wait, this is real? This actually happened? L E L

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its not a Yea Forums server, the admin runs a tight ship.

Did you get invited to your workplace fantasy league and just start following football last week?

6-6 was much more of a meme game

>8 posts early

>4 minutes
The fuck? 20 minutes is a quickie.

Dak is not elite
Jimmy Gay is a bust
Luck is ruined

>While I agree that Jones will probably be a bust, but Baker is still a douche

Tripfags are insufferable

Bro I was THERE. The crowd was charged up and I had a great time but the game was objectively awful. Also my gf's first live game, not a great look.

That was in the Hue Jackson era

This. born outside philly and became a fan in 2000. I know I am lucky to have witnessed that great run of NFCCG but there was always a sad ending. LII will never give me goosbumps

Who are these weirdo autists we've had lately that get in 1 internet argument and spend weeks spamming the same thing over and over out of pure seethe? Or is it 1 guy?

You have the >6. Bills guy who is still seething and the >8 posts early guy who is also seething.

>AB and his helmet
>Zeke vs. Jerry Jones
>baker being a big meanie
Preseason drama is the worst

i want to die

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Our general has the worst autism

All 100% accurate

Why haven't I seen this before kek

Bing bing wahoo!

New

He's just being retarded. Baker is writing checks he can't cash. Got way too cocky after going .500.

Is he watching film on a Wii console? Is it a DVD that's he's playing in it, or is it the YouTube app? Or did he find some controler for PC that looks like it's for the Wii? I have so many questions.

confirmation bias