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SEA: DK Metcalf needs minor knee surgery
NYJ: Le'Veon Bell not playing in the preseason
PIT: Diontae Johnson unlikely to play much early
OAK: AB brings his helmet to lab testing, it fails
OAK: Antonio Brown (helmet) leaves Raiders camp
FA: Pats release Dontrelle Inman at his request
WAS: Schefter: Case Keenum on pace to start Week 1
FA: Former Bears RB Cedric Benson dead at 36
TEN: Marcus Mariota expected to be on short leash
OAK: AB 'took all the reps' in Raiders walkthrough

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>Mariota is a b-

APOLOGIZE RIGHT NOW

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For me, it's Douglas Irving Pederson.

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Always believed in him desu

Daily reminder that:

>The (0-16) Browns went 4-0 in the Preseason
>The (0-16) Lions went 4-0 in the Preseason

>6. Bills

And the Ravens have been undefeated in preseason since 2015 but never went winless. Preseason is literally meaningless except for individual player evaluations

Strong jaw and powerful hairline desu.

Curious to see how he deals with Daniel Jones being a top 3 qb for the next decade.

>letting a PEDer play and murder qbs

Not based, pretty blue pilled

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Giants going 10-6 this season

>hiding chewing tobacco in a bag of sunflower seeds

Why? Are coaches not allowed to dip on the sidelines during games?

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gnats will go 5-11 and you are gonna like it.

This handsome man is back tonight.

GET HYPED

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For me? its Tony Pollard.
The best rookie runningback. I even ask for extra yards after contact and he's friendly and more than willing to oblige.
One time i asked for some yac and he gave me 3! I said, "Wow, three for free!" and the nice friendly runningback laughed and said, "I'm going to call you 3-for-free!"
How the rb greets me with "hey its 3-for-free" and always gives me the extra yards. Its such a fun and cool atmosphere at my local cowboys games.

*blocks your path*

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Unban me from the discord, fucker

Don't act like you're on Yea Forums outside of Yea Forums you dunce

Nah fuck you incel

what does that even mean

have sex

Richard Sherman on the 49ers defense:

>While the 49ers' defense may not have started the fight, they decidedly are more confident this season.

>“It’s light years ahead of last year,” Sherman said. “I think it’s just young guys being veterans this year. I think the experience that a lot of guys playing a lot of downs last year gave them the confidence they needed to take the next steps.

>“That’s why you see our twos and threes way ahead of where they were last year and our ones light years ahead of where they were, especially with the talent. Even when you’re missing Dee Ford and [Nick] Bosa right now, we’re still making plays, we’re getting the rush, we still have the intensity."

If you're watching the game tonight some players to watch on defense:
Dre Greenlaw ILB (Rookie 5th round stand out)
Marcell Harris S
Jimmy Ward S
Julian Taylor DL
Kentavius Street DL
Sheldon Day DL
Jeremiah Valoaga DL
Damontre Moore DL (AAF Botes Standout)

Offense:
All of the RBs
The battle for tight end 2 and 3.
And of course Jimmy Garoppolo making his post ACL tear appearance.
And the rookie wide outs Deebo and Hurd who have some impressive catches already.

Not shocking that a 3rd world muslim terrorist would sympathize with the most terrible city in America.

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>most playoff revenue in the new system would go to the teams in the playoffs directly instead of being evenly split among all teams and players would get far bigger playoff bonuses

Thoughts on this? I think it's stupid. Already more than a third of teams make the playoffs. Now they want to increase it to half? This is some MLS tier shit

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>preseason

>implying the Giants don't have an offensive line now
lmao

Owners want to be able to say their teams made it into the playoffs. Having half the league get in is stupid and a waste, though. They'll all be first round exits at the bottom.

In the last decade, ~60% of wildcard teams have won at least one playoff game. Honestly, I think the NFL needs to adapt the NBA's playoff seeding where you're seeded based on your record regardless if you won your division. So a 12-4 wildcard team would get a bye over a 7-9 division winner

>fly eagles fly

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>7. Viqueens

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I mean when you only play each NFC team once every four years you're bound to have a decent record against them. I mean Wilson only has a losing record against the Bengals and Chargers from AFC teams

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why are they 0-2 against Cam then?

>Before jetting back to Brookline this weekend, Brady and some of his teammates grabbed a slice — or several — at DeSano Pizza in Nashville, Tenn. The quarterback legend shared pics from their outing, where they chowed down on trays of pizza laden with meat and multiple melted cheeses.

It's over. Father time will finally take Brady away and set us free.

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Why do you keep posting this, what exactly are you trying to prove?

Trubisky > Mayfield

Fight me

He's trying to prove that Andy Luck is the next Tom Brady

I'd take Rivers over Luck desu

Please no. We do not need to be the NBA where half the league makes the playoffs and unncessarily has a bunch of garbage teams get weeded out every year.

Remember how clearly outmatched the Texans, Colts, and Seahawks were in the 2018-2019 playoffs? They were never going to make the Super Bowl. You can name the same every year. It's such a fucking waste of time. Even the NBA shows it where teams get swept constantly because they're so mismatched in the playoffs since half the league gets in. Absolute waste of time.

Just leave it the way it is. Occasionally a scrappy underdog fights their way in and makes a hero run to the Super Bowl. That's good enough. We don't need to give half the league a chance just for hitting .500. It makes the regular season so much more meaningless than it already is.

>8. Patriots
They've really learned nothing.

>I'll take a playoff choker over a playoff choker

:/

>I'll take a durable choker over a choker made of glass
FTFY

Nah. It's only the media that pushes this "strict diet" thing. Brady has said on multiple occasions that if he feels like eating something, he will. He's not going to let his diet get in the way or regular socializing or life. It's hardly his first or last "cheat meal"

Touche

>settling for less
wow mcfucking kill yourself

>if he feels like eating something, he will

Wow, real man of the people Brady is

MAKE HOUSTON OILERS AGAIN
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what's his policy on kissing his children?

*obama voice*
uh, if you like your food, you can eat it

Make Quebec free again

The Seahawks won the story of the game again Dallas no idea what you’re going on about

It means “don’t bully me”

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>AB is not going to Raiders training camp today

Yikes

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i'm out of the loop, whats with the nog and the helmet?

>8 posts early
OP from Saturday exposed

Based

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It's against the law to beat up the retarded.

His helmet is no longer compliant with league safety standards. He threw a fit saying Brady and Rodgers still had their old helmets, was proven wrong shut up for a day. Came back the next week with his old helmet painted to look new. Was caught obviously and now is threatening to hold out if he doesnt get his way. Also like 1 user here said a good conspiracy is he will play one down, take a hit to the head and say his neck and head hurt too much to play and sue the league for making him not wear his "better" helmet

>helmet isn't on the approved list
>technically it doesn't matter if the helmet is approved or not, it's the manufacturing date that matters
>AB finds some made in 2014 so they would be allowed
>NFL comes back saying they need to pass testing on the new helmet standards
>they fail
>AB sitting out but says he'll be back
>rumors he's using the helmet thing to cover up the frostbite on his feet

Either it's just all one big joke or he's literally insane.

Guess you're not allowed to masturbate then

>"Were looking into any and all options right now to resolve the helmet issue."

How about you wear an approved helmet you dunce

He wants special treatment on his helmet that gives him better peripheral vision and the league AND the NFLPA told him to get a new helmet. So he pulls the race card thinking guys like Rodgers and Brady get special treatment when they don't.

There's also a conspiracy going around that it's a cover for his feet that were injured and the Raiders can say it's a non-football injury and void his contract and make him give them their signing bonus back.

But I think he's just being a faggot who wants an advantage.

They needed an interesting storyline for Hard Knocks

seems like a silly thing to cause such a ruckus over unless there is more to it like the frostbite thing

what changed with helmets that one just a few years ago would fail anyways? that seems like something they'd say just to make them buy new ones every few years

It is stupid thicc. Just like how your mom likes it.

I think his preferred helmet style is 10 years old

Football helmets that actually protect the head are a relatively new idea since the NFL pushed the effects of CTE under a rug for so long so a helmet from 10 years ago provides very little actual protection against concussions.

It was independently tested by the league and the NFLPA to fail new standards in protecting the brain.

You are right it seems like making molehills into mountains but I don't really think that this new helmet would save anyone from a vicious concussion causing hit that the one one wouldn't. You could make a case better peripheral vision would help one avoid such contact but I don't know shit.

He's just using this shit as an excuse to dodge camp. He's a vet and the best WR in the league and doesn't need to waste his time dicking around in camp

I thought all helmets did nothing for concussion I mean it can protect your face eyes skin ears etc but wouldn’t do shit for your brain getting shitmixed inside your skull

Retrd

>AB is somehow more of a diva in chokeland than in pittsburgh

the man defies all logic

>joined the team this offseason
>”he’s a vet, he doesn’t need to learn to the playbook or code words or scheme or anything”

HOF players don't need to waste time at training camp

I mean yea, they do very little because without crushable foam like a motorcycle helmet there's only so much that can be done, but they're actually trying now so maybe they're a little better.

He's the best route runner in the league. He memorized the playbook. No need to practice what he already knows

at the end of the day theres only so much room for padding and various materials to make it out of. it might help more than older helmets but i doubt its a night and day difference. i wouldn't be surprised if in a few years a study shows they oversold how effective the new stuff is supposed to be when the number of concussions doesn't dramatically decrease.

While we don't have a current helmet that can fully prevent concussions, the current ones are better than the older ones which literally did nothing and some of which actually made things worse

I guarantee you he hasn’t. The only vet in the league that isn’t expected to participate in camps is Brady, because he’s been with them for so fucking long. AB won’t play because he doesn’t know how to play for them and knows none of the plays. He’s a retard

>trays of pizza laden with meat and multiple melted cheeses

wtf is wrong with this journalist lmao

I understand why they want the newer safer helmets but if the nog wants to nog let him

>blair, metcalf and collier injured already and the season hasn't even started yet

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That's what these new helmets are designed to fix. They have crumple zones that decelerate before stopping.

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Serves you right

Do you start 0-6 or 2-4?

it's missing that "I'm a complete psycho" vibe

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OH NO NO NO NO NO

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>Brady #1

In the trash it goes

Mark fucking Kelso. Jesus...

It also looked like an ugly Sturmtroopen helmet in some colors.

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Gruden is a joke. I can't believe he is being paid so much money for being so unprofessional.

>Mariota, Trubisky, Flacco and Foles behind Winston
U focking wot lmao, the fuck is this list?

>Fraudgers at 4
Why are they ranking starters from a collective and not their previous fucking year? Rodgers hasn’t been good in at least 3 years now.

>Nosen over Allen
Fuck off PFF.

>Cuckson Wince even being rated
Trash

You may only respond to this post if your team got the biggest steal in the draft

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>mahomes this high after 1 season

I can never trust this shit.

If you drafted a QB, then you got robbed.

B-b-b-but 50 TDs and all those yards! There’s no way it’s a fluke! 10 RINGS

>52.8% completion rate compared to Lamar's 62.8%

Imagine being worse than Lamar at passing

>he doesn’t know

>jimmy garoppolo with 4 fucking starts is ranked higher than nick foles

this is such a fucking joke I can't believe it

>preseason

I do know. You got robbed, personally

I don't think it's possible for the Shithawks to start out 0-1 since they're playing an AJ Greenless Bungles

What kinds of cheese?

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the seahawks secondary is probably one of the worst in the league at this point. they also have probably one of the worst DL now that clark is gone.

Wentz should be top 7 on that list desu

And how exactly does that make the Bengals offense any better? Dalton is coming back off of injury and won't have his number one receiver

How fuckin mad can Murrayfags be? Your QB is a bust, get over it. He’s elite.
What’s your address

>only played through a whole season 33.3% of the time

No

It's time to clear the league of these old men and let basedhomes take his rightful place as no. 1

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reddit bay btfo

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Thank God there's no Viqueens fags on at this time of the morning

it really helps a shitty offense when they face a shittier defense.

I think that Joe flacco has a legit shot of making the broncos a contender this season

haha no

Bengals have a better run game.

Literally no statistical difference from Case

the seahawks will beat the bengals in running if only because scrotumheimer is retarded enough to ignore his best weapon in Wilson's arm and instead use 2 mediocre running backs.

Bengals have a mediocre defense too and I'll bet money Wilson outplayed Dalton

Didn't the Xecucks have the best rushing offense last year? I know that is irrelevant for this season but I highly doubt their running game got any worse

NFC South. Who will win?
>youtube.com/watch?v=Auck99mNxwA

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>Seahawks clearly outmatched by Dallass

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The south is trash, t.bh

>Bengals have a mediocre defense too and I'll bet money Wilson outplayed Dalton

Yeah I expect Wilson to destroy Dalton.

They did have the best rushing offense by far and they ran it like 10% more than the closest team. They did lose one of their starting backs (Davis) but he was probably the worst one so it should still be good.

>best o-line
>best WR's
>best TE's
>best QB
>good special teams
>decent run game
>decent defense

Seriously, who can stop us?

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>decent defense

lol no

>>best o-line

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Poor bait is not worth replying to

>>best TE's

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God, Jason kelce is a sexy bear.

Which post?

This thread would be dead then

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better than diaperposting

>everyone says Bell isn't that great and it was just the Steelers o line
>iggles fags constantly claim they have the best o line
>their RBs are always meh
Explain

based

fuck yankess btw

>1. Bears
>2. Browns
>7. Vikings
>Eagles not in top 10

>these bets
>all that lost money

gamblers are legit tards

They had the third best rushing offense in 2017

I'M TIRED OF WAITING FOR THE FUCKING SEASON TO START

START THE SEASON ALREADY GODAMMIT

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In 2017 Jay Ajayi averaged 3.4 yards per carry behind the dolphins o-line and 5.8 yards per carry behind the eagles

The Steelers were able to get leveon bell production out of an old Deangelo Williams and a cancer survivor

The big rollers are just artificially moving the line so the NPCs will place dumb bets. They do this every year.

Gase used Ajayi very differently than the eagles.

I still don't know how the Eagles are not in the top 10. After the Patriots, they're the team I'd feel best with my money on.

>Iggles
Injury prone everything.

And if not for that, they'd be my number one favorite.

sounds like a papa roach song

not really

Ajayi is just a one trick pony whos completely dependent on his surrounding talent

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Cringe Zoomer shit

Wrong. Ajayi was a very skilled back limited by his injured knees and gases retardation.

Just make him sign a paper that lets the NFL out of any brainmush he gets then let him wear the brainmush helmet

is that why his one good season came under Gase in 2016?

I'm not even a Gase defender but Ajayi is a diamond dozen rb that's getting phased out of the nfl.

The Ravens were complete trash in last year's playoffs, they were just as embarrassing to watch as the Texans. The only thing that might have made that game interesting is if they'd actually brought out Flacco when the fans started chanting for him

The preseason is like a girl half-heartedly jerking you off in your jeans. It’s something, but I’d rather just focus on what’s on Netflix

Quebec owns because they had the same kind of working class revolution that leftists have wet dreams about. But since they're disgusting whites who have a strong attachment to their culture it doesn't count and they need to be replaced with proud and noble hajjis asap

>bears
>browns
>vikings
hilarious

Those old timey leather helmets actually offer better protection than the new ones

wtf Colin Cowturd is making sense

>18-1

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wrong
2018: ok
2017: great then missed half the season
2016: elite

why cant AB just order a custom helmet?
hes getting 10s of millions of dollars from the Raiders, he has star power recognition
go to a helmet company, get them to manufacture what he want. in return they get pretty much a free marketing campaign with an AB sponsored helmet line

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quarterbacks dont just stop being good at the most mental position in sports. a ton of production has to do with the rest of the offense. plus he had a fucking broken leg

preseason is fun for watching rookies play against other teams. It's fun to see how they handle being on the stage before the games that matter come in to play. it also helps to tamper expectations for players the media jerk off to get views.

>tfw all my teams big rookies are dead so preseason is pointless for me

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>already dead
What in the goddamn

HATERS ON SUICIDE WATCH

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Imagine supporting a team who loses in the preseason?

Source: TRUST ME DUDE

dead until the regular season.

Would take way too long. Has to be designed, manufactured, and tested/approved by the league. Maybe for later in the season or next year or something.

Jon Gruden is ten times the nigger AB could ever hope to be

>Diva Status: DEBUNKED

A player who they’re paying 20 million is attending practice????

Raiders are afc favorites now

>his team isn't owned by the best rapper alive

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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That’s not a pic of Uzi

Later this week he'll be gone because the team won't allow him to practice wearing sneakers

it might be worth it for him
hes under contract for 3 years iirc
one year of some discomfort for the helmet while working on the design outside of practice and game planning, 2 years with a helmet he designed and with a potential sponsor after retirement for extra checks

god the steelers will never escape the drama light will they?

jpegmafia is owning the steelers?

How do we "solve" the Josh Gordon problem?

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That's not Macklemore

fuck maclemore

>getting spotted
What a scrub

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put some weed and coke in his locker

that's not any of the of the beastie boys or dust brothers that made 1989 Paul's Boutique

The Beastie Boys were NOT rappers

not cool bro Macklemore died last year bro

>Yeah I smoke cheeba, it helps me with my brain I might be a little dusted but I'm not insane People come up to me and they try to talk shit, man I was making records when you were sucking your mother's dick

that is the best rap line of all time

>forget the earth he had the urge to pull his dick from the dirt, and fuck the hole universe
sorry bud, thats the best rapline

youtube.com/watch?v=bZD-vZ8AdnY

Nas isn't dead yet faggot.

>west virginia
user i...

Based. Why are Southerners so good at NCAA football, but not NFL football?

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Requesting the webms of Brady & Gronk after the AFC Championship or Super Bowl.

Zero (0) economy to support professional sports.

>Look at your Rollie, uh, look at my Rollie, uh
>That's a small face, uh, this a big face, uh

Colleges are subsidized down there.

>8 posts early

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This faggot who got yelled at for making a thread early is still seething after a week

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Haha damn son you are platinum mad

NEVER OP AGIAN

>Jim Irsay will never OD

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OH NO NO NO

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Luck will never be 100% again

Lamar Jackson is not a real quarterback and the Ravens are going to go 4-12.

Probably not but that’s okay because we got a GM who can actually build a roster and protect his QB, so once Luck is out again CHAD Kelly will lead the Colts to the Owl

>Rodgers is disintegrating before our very eyes.

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Stadiums are tumors on the city they’re in anyways. Sucking up tax dollars

Actually, it was perfectly timed

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This. The money should go to buying black kids books they won't read.

Andy Dalton is elite

Not talking about you, OP. I am still roasting the retard from Saturday afternoon's genny

Is Rodgers the most overrated QB ever?

He's talking about this thread where OP got chewed out for being a fag and has been whining about it for days now:

archive.4plebs.org/sp/thread/94826248/#94826248

No, that would be Favre

Pretty pathetic desu

OP is always a fag tho

But what if he learns his lesson? What if he never does it again? Will you thank me then? Will you apologize??

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Russell Wilson
3. Matt Ryan
4. Andrew Luck
5. Patrick Mahomes
6. Drew Brees
7. Tom Brady
8. Deshaun Watson
9. Philip Rivers
10. Ben Roethlisberger
11. Kirk Cousins
12. Jared Goff
13. Carson Wentz
14. Cam Newton
15. Baker Mayfield
16. Jameis Winston
17. Matt Stafford
18. Derek Carr
19. Eli Manning
20. Dak Prescott
21. Joe Flacco
22. Ryan Fitzpatrick
23. Jimmy Garoppolo
24. Andy Dalton
25. Nick Foles
26. Mitch Trubisky
27. Sam Darnold
28. Marcus Mariota
29. Josh Allen
30. Lamar Jackson

>falseflagging as the people who criticize you
is this a new age autism? just don't make an early thread next time you weirdo.

>16. Winston

>28. Mariota

You don't even watch football

Winston has had flashes, and his highs are insane. Mariota is total dogshit, don't know how anyone can defend him still.

Lmao at that top 4

>16. Jameis Winston
>>>>>>

>cripple
>defense baby
>choker
>cripple

>3. Matt Ryan

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>3. Matt Ryan
>11. Kirk Cousins
>16. Jameis Winston
>18. Derek Carr
>19. Eli Manning
>21. Joe Flacco
>28. Marcus Mariota
Way too high.

>5. Patrick Mahomes
>7. Tom Brady
>12. Jared Goff
>15. Baker Mayfield
>25. Nick Foles
>26. Mitch Trubisky
>30. Lamar Jackson
Way too low.

Are all vicucks fans autistic? How can a fanbase be so delusional?

>12. goof
>way too low
user, I...

>Winston has had flashes

Everyone has fucking idiot, that's why they're in the NFL. Mariota outperformed Winston with a shittier team when they first met and he's gonna do it again this year.

People talk so much shit about Mariota like he didn't beat the Eagles, Cowboys and Patriots last year. Or knocked Alex Smith out of the playoffs. His career rating is even higher.

What the fuck has Winston done besides finger an Uber driver?

I'm so tired of you fucking idiots

Not enough return I'm guessing

C O P E
O
P
E

>goof

funny way of spelling bears fans

>cowcucks
>good

The Chiefs have the same odds as the Patriots, and they're 5 spots higher.

>Super Bowl LII was one of the best ever because of all the scoring
>Super Bowl XLVIII was one of the worst ever because of all the scoring

???????

All I care about is allowance for a plethora of cool facemasks.

>>Super Bowl LII was one of the best ever because of all the scoring

it isn't one of the best ever. It might be for the story of what Foles did, but the game wasn't one of the best ever

try harder retard, no (You) for you

>tfw cool facemasks are banned

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I like how you know you’re wrong and basically admit it. Thank you—it’s refreshing on Yea Forums

>cool
Those look ridiculous. Like an 80's Heman villain or something.

No
Fun
League

>So a 12-4 wildcard team would get a bye over a 7-9 division winner

I sort of agree with that, but the current seeding makes divisions a lot more meaningful than in other leagues. Every US sport has them but only in football are the rivalries so intense and sometimes even communal. Nothing is better than being an NFC East fan and agreeing with a fellow NFC East over mutual hatred another team.

middle looks stupid as fuck

>so many face masks you can't breathe

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Yeah but then you get meme games like the Seahawks vs Saints with the current system

Those look like waffle fries that you'd get at school, I hate it.

People actually think a team coached by freddie kitchens is going to win more than 6 games roflmfao

LORD MUTHAFUCKIN ZEDD

How did AB fukt his feet?

Cryotherapy. Didn't wear proper shoes.

owned

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>Mayfield 10
>Ahead of Watson Wentz Goff and Newton

They are getting four free wins from the Bungles and Ravens so it is very likely.

Maybe because nicotine on tv. FCC rules are weird and some advertisers might not like it. That and nasty motherfuckers will spit it all over everything.

FUCK I just drafted him in my fantasy team on Friday

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>Andy Reid has a chance to win a ring
They'll never learn.

I miss AP like you wouldn't believe

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Why would you draft the colts fourth string rb coming off an Achilles injury

So this is based solely on how much I would want them as my team's starter for just this season

1. Mahomes
2. Brady
3. Wilson
4. Rodgers
5. Brees
6. Roethlisberger
7. Rivers
8. Wentz
9. Luck
10. Watson
11. Mayfield
12. Goff
13. Prescott
14. Ryan
15. Foles
16. Darnold
17. Garoppolo
18. Newton
19. Stafford
20. Cousins
21. Carr
22. Mariota
23. Trubisky
24. WInston
25. Dalton
26. FItzpatrick
27. Jackson
28. Manning
29. Allen
30. Flacco
31. Murray
32. Haskins

This is why my league never drafts before the end of the preseason

>rating sophomores
keep the shit b8 to twitter with the other methfags, please and thank you

Honestly, it was more turn to draft but I saw there was one slice of pizza left so I picked the first guy I saw.

Reminder if you don't support RBs getting paid you're a racist

Wilson should be #1

>everyone wants mahomes after 1 season
>standard dudes like rodgers, wilson, luck, brady, and brees are below

I am curious to see how the hype for mahomes shifts after a second season.

It's a tough call, but I didn't like how he looked in the Dallas playoff game

They're below him for age and injury concerns. Mahomes is the guy I have no concerns with

got a leaked copy of the script in my hands lads, Chargers - Saints owl

neither of those teams are making the playoffs

>Mahomes is the guy I have no concerns with

you have only seen him for 1 year you have no concerns? we're you one of those guys that thought prescott or carr we're elite only to see in later seasons they were average?

Carr went down because of his injuries and a bad organization, and I always saw Dak as a Zeke-babby.

The worst case scenario for Mahomes, barring severe injury is going from 50 TDs to 30.

On the same subject, I suppose it's also worth noting that Wentz would be in the top 5 if you could promise me 16 games.

>every year

People say this literally every year. It's gotten tiresome.

Is Jimmy G still fucking old fat porn stars?

>Chargers meme
>year after year

Nobody thought Carr was elite lmao in his “career year” he averaged 7.0 yards per attempt

Mahomes had one of the most productive passing seasons of the decade

>chargers meme
more like
>saints meme
They're never gonna win again after selling their souls for that first super bowl win.

Who's the best looking QB and why is it Russell Wilson?

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We need to study why it seems that every single person that goes for the Chargers meme always matches them up with the Saints for some reason. It's never any other team.

I'm pissed on how almost 15 fucking years later, they still bring up Hurricane Katrina at Saints home games

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For me, it's Cam Newton.

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Objectively Garoppolo

tell that to /nfl/ from 2016. the fuckers wouldn't shut the fuck up about carr especially during their playoff run.

Does Thielen actually have the potential to be elite, or is he more of a reliable Michael Thomas type?

Mahomes' MVP season also coincided with the harsher PI rules too.

Difference being Carr’s “breakout” year was his 3rd year as a starter with his first two years being bad so it was likely as an outlier. Also He was always a mediocre talent even as a college prospect.

Mahomes did a much better year in his first year as a starter and his profile as a college qb was superb physical talent with enormous upside so this wasn’t *completely* unexpected.

He won’t throw for 50 touchdowns again but there’s every reason to expect Mahomes to be a top 5-10 qb for years to come.

Then why didnt anyone else put up his numbers this year(Besides Brees who’s also elite)

Even in today’s hyper inflated offense age Mahomes still separated from the pack

Friendly reminder that 3 people could not pull Cam Newton away from burying Josh Norman while smiling for the camera

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Dak and Zeke are like a yaoi couple

What's with the greasy wop hair though

Definitely elite. He makes plays and catches balls that almost no other receiver could.

loud mouthed shit heads like sherman and norman got what they deserve

in what world is Michael Thomas not elite

Right? There’s no other receiver in the league that could catch a ball for 4 yards consistently. It’s amazing! He’s seriously a once in a lifetime player.

I don't think his td/production will come down come down as much as people think. I think where he will "fall back to earth" is more in throwing more interceptions and getting busted making mistakes because he's aggressive and he was incredibly fortunate for his int total to be that low last year.

nah, he's great but he's already 30, and he's not flashy enough for the normies

>not flashy enough

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he's not, he just has good hands, anything thrown to him is 90% of the time caught, but he doesn't do anything after he catches the ball.

>Then why didnt anyone else put up his numbers this year
Because no one except maybe Goff, had the weapons Mahomes had and still has. I don't expect his production to drop much because he still has those weapons and Reid's meme plays, but after they pay him, Kelce drops off and they can't keep all their recievers, hell come back to earth.

If his Job is so easy than why aren't there more players replicating his historic production/efficiency through his first 3 seasons?


Could definitely turn the ball over more I agree but it would have to be a shit ton to offset the amount of explosiveness in the KC offense.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=TqJF8ykpevA

Why does a search for vids on Carson Wentz always produce vids of Cowboy fans complaining that people think he's better than Dak?

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>1 play

>prove you wrong
>”haha nice try but prove me wrong a second time or it doesn’t count”

Diggs is the guy tho

>prove you wrong
how? out of the 200 catches he made, he made 1 play after the catch, stop being a homer retard.

>reading comprehension
You’re dumb.

>Diggs is the guy tho

>rating any player on the viqueens
Stupid homers

Are people scared of the Vikings or something? They're the team (and fanbase) I see the most hate directed at recently.

>not rating Diggs and Thielen

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He's not even 1/2 as good as Thomas

>people
>scared of the vicucks
Hahaha no. They’re 4th in the division and bottom 10 in the league. They just have a shitty fanbase who will fall for anything and die to justify it. I’d rather root for the 0-16 browns/lions than the vicucks at any period of time

Cuckboys fans are insecure and honestly pretty pathetic

Thielen looking so good last year was probably partly because he was the receiver Cousins was most comfortable with/ trusted the most.
I actually expect him to be less productive this year, not because he'll have gone backwards but because for the vikings to succeed, they're going to need Cousins to look more to Diggs and Rudolph for the pass game and for the team to have more emphasis on the run overall.
However, this doesn't detract from Thielen being good. He's a great receiver, and I trust that he'll continue to be as good. But elite is a big qualifier, and I'd honestly currently put Thielen as sub-elite. The only way I put him at elite level is if he continues to put up numbers at a level like last year while Cousins makes more use of his other offensive options and their opponents still cover Thielen like a WR1 threat.

>Thomas catches passes in the middle for 7 yards and no run
>”HOLY SHIT LOOK HOW GOOD HE IS”

It's week 3 of preseason and Daniel Jones still had a Quarterback Rating of 150

Thielen’s biggest talent is his ability to catch nearly anything, meaning that the team either respects that and double teams him, or they put him manned up and give Cousins an opportunity to toss a big one to him. This makes the defense second guess the scheme every snap.

slot receivers are the runningbacks of receivers.

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9.6 yards per target

Remember when Adam "muh white receiver" Thielen led the league in receiving for like a week or two at the beginning of the season and vicucks were raving about how he was the GOAT, and then he finished outside the top 10?

Salty

Cole Beasley was my favorite player
so sad to see him go

i.imgur.com/6WHCTM1.gifv

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when is the nfl going to come in and stop Vikings fans from getting this delusional? Seriously bad for their mental health

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America's team, bitch

Reminder that in the last 65 regular season games, the Vikings have not lost a single game if they rushed 100 yards or more.

who?

He whines like an ex gf after a breakup

Reminder

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Reminder that getaban is a chargers fan

Dick Rod got hurt in Eagles-Ravens joint practice today. Fuck the ratbirds.

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>he hasn't seen his team's Lombardi trophy in person

Fake fans, please go

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let them suffer, they enjoy it
based, also this one

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Does anyone have vikcucks caps from before the bears stomped them week 17 last season? They were so confident and it was so cute to see that level of optimism.

>mfw it’s vogue to hate the Vikings but it won’t ease the pain when they stomp >your team

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My team will likely having a winning record this year though. What say you

You’ll lose. Easy as that.

We don't deserve Dougie P

>Cousins winning against a team with a winning record

>t. Zero wins against teams over .500 last season

Even if they do you'll never recover from
>38-7

>Dolphins

>7-9

Vikings desu
>inb4 assmad replies and (You)s

He just made the SB after having a very good statistical season. Why don't people give Jared Goff more credit?

Because he whiffed hard, got exposed multiple times, and showed that McGay is a fluke

Reply to this post if your team beat the vikes in the owl!

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A FUCKING HELMET

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>last half of the season
>playoffs
>super bowl

the dude went from one of the best QBs in the first half of the season to a literal detriment. look at the super bowl he basically did fuck all.

>he roots for Derek carr

These should be the only facemasks allowed so that opposing players cant get their fingers in them

Steelers reporting in

>vikcucks gave first rings to 3 teams
AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

He averages 12 yards per catch....

Not this year he hasnt

the burrs shooked him.

Everyone has bad games. He still had a good overall year. And he'll most likely produce again this year.

He was shit in the SB, but he still got them there, more than most QB's.

What do we do about ringless teams? They don’t contend and just clog up the season with useless shit.

>He roots for the football embodiment of disappointment

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11.2 then. Big difference.

No he didn’t. His defense did. He frequently made things harder for his team on the way there.

Hey, how have the raiders been doing lately?

something needs to be done about the lions. they only have one playoff win in the superb owl era.

We have the best WR in the league for starters

At least they don’t have 4 Owl losses. Better to have never chased greatness than to have failed reaching it 4 times

I think people see him as a system babby and his awful super bowl performance stays in peoples mind

>but he still got them there, more than most QB's.
his defence finally showed up in the latter half of the season and playoffs and made it so his massive slump didn't kill their playoff drive. and the refs basically handing them a win of the saints.
>And he'll most likely produce again this year.
it depends on how good his OL + run game is since a few dudes dropped off+gurley may not be the same runner we have seen.

I'll stake ineptitude over disappointment any day, it's a lot easier and doesn't get my hopes up
>pretty soon the vikes SKOL chant will be renamed to SCORE, PLEASE SCORE *clap clap*
Relegate them, let them duke it out then have a shot to play the owl winning team?

>AB
>best receiver in the league
How delusional do you have to be

>Better to have never chased greatness than to have failed reaching it 4 times
What a fucking defeatist attitude. Kys you weak willed bitch.

Literal cuck mentality. Admitting defeat before the season even starts

good times

Vikings gonna win it.

His D was ranked 20th in points allowed, so not sure where you're getting that from. Did you watch the Vikings or Chiefs game for example?

>goes straight to URAKEKLOL
Ha, Ineptitude aside, I see my raiders doing way better this year than last year, maybe not getting that sweet justification of masochism that is a Lombardi but growth and improvement, meanwhile your team will probably have a great season yet again only to piss it all away in a playoff game that gives another team a free owl win

>Derek carr is qb and Gruden is coach
You’re aiming for 5-11

LOOK AT THIS DUDE

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Literally hall of famer

holy christ cousins

For me, it's the stormin' mormon.

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Hopkins is the best, but you have to be an idiot to discredit AB on a talent basis. You can say he has a shit situation now (and he does), but is absolutely still a top 3 receiver and arguably top 2.

I told you he was an elite winner

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5-11 sounds better than 5-25 right about now my purple friend

its one or two autists that spam stuff about them, but they legit have one of the most delusional fanbases. as soon as they start winning its laughing at other teams because theyre the team of destiny, and as soon as they start losing they demand pity and seek enjoyment in the failure of other teams

>raidnigger logic

So literally every fanbase in the fucking league? What cuck are you that you don’t actively root against your division rivals?

>Cousins that high
>A;;en that low

>rating Bust Allen

brees-chargers connection

it's not unlike the Chiefs-Eagles matchup that people want

either seething vikcuck or stupid casual that thinks every fanbase is identical

i'd put him in the 20-25 range. he's not the 2nd worst qb in the league

You committed the ultimate cardinal sin, you got personal. You, as a team of professionals trying to make money, got personal. You got personal and decided to insult your playbase, calling us "ass-hats" and "freeloaders". Not a wise move. We won't forget this. You've set a new tone for the kind of interaction we'll be having with you. It's a cold one. One where there aren't any illusions about the reality of the situation. Previous notions of "family" are dead. We are mere consumers to you, and that is obvious. You have chosen to bring in a new era of hostility and bitterness. Well done. Great PR move.

He literally had the worst completion percentage at 52.8%

You're overrating him. He has a lot of potential, but he's just not very good right now

Insult me all you like but we both know the vikes ain't doing shit at least with Cousins

Found the fairweather or bandwagoner

We’ll just see.

Who wins the 0-4 owl if you took these Bills and Vikings?

To yeet, or not to yeet--that is the question:

Whether 'tis danker in the mind to yeet

The slings and arrows of dank fortune

Or to yeet arms against a sea of troubles

And by yeeting end them. To yeet, to yeet--

No more--and by a sleep to say we yeet

The heartache, and the thousand dank shocks

That flesh yeets heir to. 'Tis a consummation

Devoutly to yeet yeeted. To yeet, to yeet--

To yeet--perchance to yeet: ay, there’s the rub,

For in that sleep of death what dreams may yeet

When we have yeeted off this dank coil,

Must yeet us pause. There yeets the respect

That yeets calamity of so dank life.

For who would yeet the whips and scorns of time,

Th' oppressor yeets wrong, the dank man's contumely

The pangs of dank love, the law's delay,

The insolence of office, and the spurns

That dank merit of th' dank takes,

When he himself might his quietus yeet

With a dank bodkin? Who would fardels yeet,

To yeet and yeet under a dank life,

But that the dread of something after death,

The dank country, from whose bourn

No traveller yeets, yeets the will,

And makes us rather yeet those ills we yeet

Than yeet to others that we yeet not of?

Thus conscience does yeet cowards of us all,

And thus the dank hue of resolution

Is yeeted o'er with the dank cast of thought,

And enterprise of dank pitch and moment

With this regard their currents yeet dank

And yeet the name of action. -- Soft you now,

The dank Ophelia! -- Nymph, in thy orisons

Yeet all my sins yeeted.

Absolute meme player

titansized.com/2019/08/18/ryan-tannehill-reacts-qb-competition/
>Tennessee Titans: Ryan Tannehill shoots down QB competition talk

Vikings. Really not a contest if you look at the numbers from the last few years.

Bills easily

>Of course, the talk of a quarterback competition on the Titans was silly to begin with and only started because Tannehill had bigger numbers than Mariota in the first preseason game. That’s all it took for the national media to create this phony narrative.
Does the Titans media actually believe this shit, or is just one dopey idiot?

many vikings fans dont enjoy winning after decades of emotional abuse and meaningless wins, they just enjoy watching other teams lose
you dont have to be a fairweather fan to enjoy winning. maybe this concept is foreign to you

/Bills-Vikings Owl 2020/

2019. I am forgotten......

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Source: dude
Rivalries in the Midwest are heartfelt because we actually live next to our rivals. Only a few divisions share this, and those that do feel it the way we do. We enjoy winning just as much as we enjoy seeing the other teams lose. There’s a common saying in the NFCN among all the teams: “I only root for two teams, (my team) and whoever’s playing (packers, vikings, lions, bears).”

Pictures taken before disaster

>Theres an Alternate Universe where Tebow is still on the Broncos

Let’s take a rewind. It’s 2017. Instead of losing to the Panthers, the Vikings win it and end the season 14-2. Because of this, they become the 1st seed in the NFC and the playoff picture rearranges. They play the Falcons in the Divisional Round while the Eagles play the Saints. What changes about the the NFC continuing onwards?

Raiders Saints owl 2021

AFC north is the same way. They even joked about it on air during the ravens/browns game in week 17. "This is the only time you'll hear a steelers fan say they want to see the browns win" or something to thay effect.

Answer: Who cares, it didn't happen that way.

Nobody asked you

Brees dismantles the Eagles defense, Vikes choke to the Saints, Brady and Brees shoot it out, Saints win in OT
>inb4 saintsfan

>saints
>beating the eagles 2017 defense
Lmao are you fucking serious?

Tad Broderick pushed them to their limits and he's elite, Drew Brees is regarded as elite too, no reason why he couldn't unless he gets killed

There's a video of Heinz Stadium loudly cheering for the Browns in week 17, AB modified his jersey to say Browns and it was cool seeing another entire fanbase root for us in that manner

underrated post, Cowboys fans need to see this

quesitonable arm and mechanics aside Tebow was a fucking winner. you can't teach that kind of spirit he had and the mental toughness he displayed on the field. I'd argue the QB position is worse off for the years of not seeing his talents on display.

>packers
>browns

Kinda like how the Ravens were cheering on the Bills that one year

>Next Pats game is on Thursday
Couldn't wait a full week for Saturday.

Because he's Jared Goof, and he got exposed as a fraud hard in the owl.

He got them to the owl because of the biggest no call of the century. And because the Saints choked.

He just needed more help

I remember the Bill's applauding the Bengals for getting them into the playoffs

Coach system babby

Why did Jimmy G fuck a pornstar?

>Kirk Cousins that high, and is higher than most QB's who have tripled the amount of wins against teams over .500.
Yeah think this guy only watch half of last season for his first year as a viewer.

Wins aren't a QB stat

>wins aren’t a QB stat

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Is that how it happened? Either way it was pretty odd to see but humbling

I'd fuck India Summer if given the chance.

Ironic

>Wins are a QB stat

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>wins aren’t a QB stat

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Sucking cock is a wojak poster stat.

>yfw da bears win da superb owl

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he had a boner

>posts exactly 1 minute apart
Autistic samefag cocksucker.

Leather Skin Lady on the pre-game show needs to go. Get some younger talent in there if you're going to have a woman commentate at the table. Also, put Sheftner in there. He's the guy with all the actual NFL news at ESPN.

I'd fuck Colleen Wolfe

>Wins is a qorterbak stat

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>not fucking pornstars

cringe

>wins ain’t a wiarterbeck stak

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>OAK: AB 'took all the reps' in Raiders walkthrough
Uh...does no remember what a walkthrough looked like in practice?

He’s an attention whore

talk about autism, jesus christ

Wojaks are a meme meme

>football!

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Yes. The way people suck his 3 inch penor you'd think he's the second coming of christ instead of a guy with one exceptional season, 4 great seasons, and 8 middling seasons.

>he throw ball good!

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Which would actually be a fun way to market players and get extra money in but nooo

Have you watched him play? He is unbelievable.

>faked an injury to get out of a blowout loss at home to the Lions

retard

Hey Erin

I really can't take this autistic /nfl/ contrarianism

Are you new here?

fantasy.nfl.com/registration/privateleaguejoin?leagueId=7849349
Pass is spee2019

Draft is next weekend.

Where's the pickem?

He's the system baby that people wish Brady was.

Dunno

>Kirk Cousins is elite and better than Prescott, Goff, Wentz, Newton, and even Foles combined.

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Living that Kanye MBDTF life. Also he's incredibly insecure

they'd rarely admit it, but bears and packers fans respect the other franchises more than most rivalries. the fierce rivalry is a defining feature of their legacies
vikings have been the third wheel of the group and have insecurity about never having the validation for being the caliber of franchise they think they are. They have always been overshadowed in legacy, championships, and talent of the other two teams, and I think it comes out in fan interactions
lions fans are just sorry and dont share the passion of football

I have. In the regular season. Get it?

I'm going to shit on everyone.

>hof quarterback with history of carrying teams and going on elite runs
>young quarterback that flashed eliteness and on rookie deal
>both teams rounded out their team with talent influx in offseason
makes sense really

Fuck it, how many brainletjak images do you autists have

Who are you quoting?

3 exceptional seasons, 3 good seasons, 3 middling seasons, 2 seasons cut short

>Vikings have been the third wheel
Not really. If anything, bears have been the third wheel for years up to this point. It’s the three way border battle. Lions are forgettable tho

Probably just people like you since you obviously think Cousins is better than all the names listed.

Tom or Bart?

Literally who are you quoting?

what kept you guys from playing? i'm half filipino so i was genetically fucked from birth, was barely 5'5 in highschool. i was fast with decent hands but also shit ankles and no muscle mass.

wahts your excuse?

Are you saying Bort?

I never signed up. That’s literally it. I was too lazy to sign up.

quoting people who think Cousins is elite, like you.

Broke my wrist on a bad block, had to have surgery that kept me out for a year

When have I ever said any of that? You’re quoting nobody. A literal straw man.

Bart.

Requesting this for the next /nfl/ OP
Bad grades in 9th grade, fighting and a loss of interest

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I didn't get into football until a few years ago. Not to mention I'm short. I could probably make it as a RB and be like a white Tarik Cohen I guess. Maybe the Pats would pick me up.

Im drafting Jones in the first

He's probably referring to

in the last 10 years the vikinga have been more relevant in the playoffs than the bears, but nothing special. they have like 4 wins? before that the bears have a superbowl appearance, then one superbowl back in 85 while the vikings havent been to a superbowl in the 70s. before that the bears had quite a few nfl championships and a much richer history
if you weight regular season success in the superbowl era, the vikings win out, but if you weight legacy, playoff success, and HOF talent more, bears are a clear winner
bears always have the most historical rivalry in history to make them relevant as a yearly attraction, while the vikings dont have a rivalry I would consider top 10

Yet you are not denying the claim that he's better than the QB's listed. You are just exposing yourself as a Vikcuck by the minute.

No ones debating that. I’m speaking in modern times. Only recently is the Bears Packers rivalry being reignited now that the bears actually have somewhat of a team.

>if you don’t attack my straw man then you must be a viqueen fan

Speak for yourself I’m in the NCAA rn

Water boys don’t count

No you're in the NAACP you illiterate nigger

Trevor pls go

>his QB is 5-28 against teams over .500
>think's he's elite
No wonder your team never won ring with that kind of delusion

Who the fuck implied I’m a viqueers fan? Is this a false flag?

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golf.

He's literally McVay's puppet

That post sure didn't age well.

You mean MORE weed and coke?

Cope