OAK: AB brings his helmet to lab testing, it fails OAK: Antonio Brown (helmet) leaves Raiders camp FA: Pats release Dontrelle Inman at his request WAS: Schefter: Case Keenum on pace to start Week 1 FA: Former Bears RB Cedric Benson dead at 36 TEN: Marcus Mariota expected to be on short leash OAK: AB 'took all the reps' in Raiders walkthrough IND: Luck warming up prior to Colts game Saturday LAC: Derwin James (foot) expected to miss 3 months PHI: Josh McCown unretires to back up Wentz
If he’s so good then why didn’t the Bills sign him?
Liam Walker
Thank you for proving QBR is a meme stat.
Colton Gray
>worse than Matt Schaub
Oh, no.
Jeremiah Hughes
I can't take the rampant racism here anymore, fuck you people im going back t o r/nfl
Christopher Powell
Why doesn't Tom Brady have a + next to his name for HoF?
Michael Taylor
two words: fuck off
Lucas Williams
Good riddance nigger
Angel Jenkins
And nothing of value was lost
Logan Ross
He’s better than a lot of backups in the nfl but low tier starter/high end backup isn’t worth the headache
Plus he was on the decline pretty much since he came on to the scene.
Connor Ward
Mods could just keep banning you for ban evading.
Evan Cook
The league is black balling him. Everybody knows it. Reid even said it. It's obvious. Carr and Dalton have jobs. Kaepernick is better than them, yet teams refuse to let him play. Maybe those two are a certain shade of skin that gets privileged treatment?
Kayden Phillips
Oh, my bad.
Samuel Walker
>Matt Schaub is the 17th greatest qb ever What went right, bros?
Eli Gutierrez
Goddamn it Antonio
Dylan Bailey
Vick would like a word with you
Leo Turner
>mediocre to bad quarterback, barely a starter >bring media circus with him >attention whore >Che-shirt wearing faggot >wonder why no GM/owner wants to sign him
Cry me a river.
Dude got a massive paycheck from the league this year. That's more than he deserves and he should be happy with it.
Ethan Gray
Reminder. Most passing yards in a single postseason.
Shame Eli didn't win league MVP in 2011. Just happened to have his best year the same time Rodgers balled out and Brady/Stafford threw for 5,000 yards.
Eli carried the offense on his back that year.
Landon Gutierrez
Stfu he was a top 10 QB his entire career, why didn't doesn't the league force brady put so they c an win?? cuz he white, the league HATE blacks being superior qbs.. brady lost to him too. The NFL is rigged against black qbs
Hunter Sanchez
I make jersey wearing sissy wh*Toid cucks seethe when I fuck their wives.
Henry Davis
Why does trolling about racism for (you)s get you off? How much of a loser are you?
Now feel free to post team defensive/offensive spending or special teams spending. You'll find, at least for New Orleans and the Packers, that they're consistently way bigger spenders on offense than the Patriots are. Where the Patriots splurge on defense.
Belichick has gotten away with relying on Brady to elevate scrappy offenses to top 10 every year. WR by committee, RB by committee, the entire offensive side of the ball was scraps aside from Gronk and Moss. For 20 years.
The Patriots stars are on the defensive side of the ball, and pretty much always have been. So citing Brady's better defenses don't mean much. If those other teams would do better with top end defenses, why don't they buy one like the Patriots do? The truth is because they spent and drafted the offensive side of the ball and surrounded their QBs with better overall talent on offense.
Brady puts up the same offensive numbers and output *without* buying top end free agents. He took paycuts left and right. He's the reason his team can splurge on defense.
Joseph Wright
>OAK: AB brings his helmet to lab testing, it fails >OAK: Antonio Brown (helmet) leaves Raiders camp
Is it mental illness? Is he gonna quit the league and go play in the XFL.
Holy shit actually I do hope he plays in the XFL so that he can be 2x better than everyone. That shit would be so comical
Nolan Jones
Cringe
Chase Gonzalez
No need to make it political
Andrew Ward
Omg he is going to fucking ruin my fantasy team
Blake Murphy
He's hasn't gotten over letting Keenum go, when he sort of became part of the DNA with them. I keep telling him though that Cousins is going to break through with a clutch performance year soon.
Jose Richardson
I find it hilarious the NFL goes to such lengths to pretend they give a shit about player safety.
Kaepernick was only good for a few years. He lost the starting job to fucking Blaine Gabbert, and that was BEFORE the protests.
Jacob Campbell
>who is Wilson >who is Newton >who is Mahomes Shove your victim complex up your ass
Matthew Lewis
Keenum was good with chemistry, but he’s not really a good QB. He showed that at Denver
David Flores
Uh actually Kaepernick is the #18 highest rated passer of all time. Nice try though.
Kayden Cooper
Wilson is white.
Luis Brooks
>Kaepernick was benched for BLAINE GABBART >teams should be expected to sign him
Leo Cruz
BASED RAPINCHADposter LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GET A LOAD OF THIS KEKCOPE
Matthew Morgan
At my old job we used to draft before the Preseason began and HOLY FUCKL did I hate it
Jason Cox
Only in recent years has their defense become decent too. Casuals point to ppg but their defense gave up 25+ to any QB outside the division.
The real issue is that Kaepernick gives a bad name to black QB's. Vick killed dogs but it doesn't give a bad name to black QB's because it's not gay. It's really shitty, but it's not gay. Kaepernick is just queer.
Aaron Baker
Ima fuck his girl for y'all. Watch me my niggas
Jackson Fisher
And not a single psych eval was given that day....
Michael Walker
Wilson and Mahomes are white. Newton is a finished meme. Next.
Hunter Bailey
>estrogen water Yikes!
Ian Morales
Panthers finna mow you cucks with ease this year Cornballs ain't white and Newton is the best black QB of all time nigga
Julian Hill
psych eval these nuts lol
Blake Moore
>what is going out of your prime You're the most retarded person I've ever met on Yea Forums. Kaepernick WAS good. Then he stopped being good.
Charles Phillips
Don't worry, kiddo. You can drink all the beer you want when you turn 21.
Evan Myers
YOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAT UP G imma fuck dis white sissyboy's wife fa y'all
R*ddit coping hard ITT over bad black and lmaoooo stick to low iq run fast positions ok
Justin Lewis
Teams know that if they sign kap, hell have a dedicated fanbase that will shout for him to start everytime the starting QB throws a pick. It'll be tebowmania all over again, but with Twitter morons who don't even watch the sport.
Nathaniel Collins
Naw man these cornball brothas don't know fuckin shit they think them cornballs be white LMAOOOOOO this some rich azz cope and Newton finna fuck all y'all Seacuck and Queef white girls in da azz with ease my nigga
Noah Phillips
This is THE most cringe, cucked, and yikes inducing jersey I have ever seen.
Gabriel Cruz
Why wasn't Tim Tebow given a settlement by the NFL when it's clear teams wouldn't sign him? :(
John Carter
Is this some kind of incel meme?
Owen Ramirez
Don't ever talk to me about football again. You don't know our history you dumb house nigger.
Bentley Thompson
>he fell for the DNA test meme Not something I would advertise
Bruh you wh*Te people rewritin history all day like me Ima fuck yo bitch if you don't tell me who's a better black quarterback than Cam lmao talk shit more white boi.
Levi Gonzalez
>buying a jersey Cuck
Kayden Price
Uh Newton is overrated, and NOT the too black qb. Moon, and Kaepernick were both better than scam.
Jason King
>Moon I ain't no boomer so that don't count in today's NFL b*tch
Cooper Sullivan
Because the media hated him and relished in his failure because he was a *GASP* white Christian male.
Conversely, they ADORE Kaeperdick. So they've been putting pressure on the league to suck up to him.
Remember when McNugget was benched for Rex Grossman by Shannahan because he thought Rex was a better fit for a 'quick tempo/quick read offense'? He basically called McNugget fat and stupid.
Andrew Carter
>fraudgers is injured before even seeing the field AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LMAO this white boi a riot man copin all day when we plowin dat white puzz
Sebastian Sullivan
Kaepernick is shit. But Cam is overrated. Best black QB's are/were Wilson, Moon, Mahomes (assuming he keeps playing well), and McNabb. Honorable mention to Cunningham as well.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO i remember. Newton may be ringless but he's never this much of a failure as McNigger is.
Eli Hill
Let me guess... you're white too but wish you were born black.
Aaron Davis
>gayface lmao
Colton Roberts
>wish you were born black Who wouldn’t?
Jeremiah Lee
>Wilson Cornball halfnigger >Moon Fuck your boomer trash >Mahomes Cornball halfnigger but better than Cuckson >McNigger LMAO don't make me laugh >Cunningham LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO I FUCKIN CANT DIS NIG WILDIN
CAM STILL WINS B*TCH
Ethan Ortiz
Where did this meme that Wilson is half-black come from?
I'm too young to remember, but was his 1998 season was as incredible as it was hyped to be? Or was it more a product of him having Moss and Carter to throw to?
>I think maybe in four or five years, but Pete and Schnieder can’t draft for shit anymore
Yeah, what the fuck happened here?
Maybe they're still stuck on the fact that they "stole" Bruce Irvin in the 1st round years ago so they're just deliberately reaching like crazy on all of their 1st rounders.
Bentley Lopez
kysksysskysksysksuaksvssnusj Suzanne hah that'smsvozzkndd wee id
Jose Miller
Madden is trash that relies on flare and lack of alternatives to move their products, perfect match.
Jackson Sullivan
smartest thing i've seen posted on Yea Forums in a long time
Joshua Foster
He got baited into a losing record team I see. What a dumb boomer he is
Carter Phillips
SO PROPHETIC AND INFORMATIVE YOUR MOTHER MUST BE PROUD HOLD ON I'LL ASK HER SORRY SHE CANT TALK WITH HER MOUTH FULL
1. Aaron Rodgers 2. Russell Wilson 3. Matt Ryan 4. Andrew Luck 5. Patrick Mahomes 6. Drew Brees 7. Tom Brady 8. Deshaun Watson 9. Philip Rivers 10. Ben Roethlisberger 11. Kirk Cousins 12. Jared Goff 13. Carson Wentz 14. Cam Newton 15. Baker Mayfield 16. Jameis Winston 17. Matt Stafford 18. Derek Carr 19. Eli Manning 20. Dak Prescott 21. Joe Flacco 22. Ryan Fitzpatrick 23. Jimmy Garoppolo 24. Andy Dalton 25. Nick Foles 26. Mitch Trubisky 27. Sam Darnold 28. Marcus Mariota 39. Josh Allen 30. Lamar Jackson
they're going to be built to play and likely win close games I do not believe they can reliably outscore many of the teams they will see in the playoffs especially if they don't have homefield. I bellieve the Jest will win 1 game and prevent the patriots from banking on those reliable 6 wins they receive from that terrible division every season
Benjamin Richardson
you put josh allen at 39, might want to edit it to 29 for your next copy paste :)
Colton Martinez
Pretty good, but you forgot about the seethe towards the Chiefs
Colton Roberts
>tfw wince goes down yet again and the granite chin wins the eagles another owl
Jack Flores
say no and marry your mom instead just like a true YOUR TEAM's fan
Brandon Parker
brady is noticeably regressing
Aiden Cook
t. retard
Aiden Hernandez
explains why madden 20 is garbage
Parker Green
did you watch last year's super bowl? he is not the brady that he once was. hes probably not gonna be below top 10 but it could hit the point where they dont win the super bowl because of it
Golden Tate said something similar before jumping ship.
James Edwards
Name players that you miss that used to play on your favorite team.
Zachary Williams
you are a genuine moron, in the fullest sense of the word
Dominic Johnson
SEAN TAYLOR LONDON FLETCHER ALEX SMITH ...Sean McVay
Jordan Barnes
Bouye. I would fucking love if Ramsey came here, though.
Juan Clark
>believing anything a limp dicked faggot says
Noah Miller
You idiots have been saying that every year for almost ten years That was one game, he was good for the rest of the season including playoffs Jordy Nelson
Austin Parker
you think hes gonna be the same? better than 2018?
Brandon Roberts
>those reliable 6 wins they receive from that terrible division every season They've gotten 6 wins twice in like 20 years. Even the Steelers and Colts have blown out their division 6-0 more than that.
Cameron Hughes
Better than a super bowl ring? What exactly are you asking? If the team is still winning the ultimate game with Brady, how is he a problem?
Jackson Williams
Because things happen you can't predict. A couple bad play calls, shit officiating or key injuries can really set a team back or cause them to lose important games. Think the miracle in miami, what if something like that happens in the divisional round or when Brady went down with an acl. They'll probably make it but you never know.
Cameron Thompson
>Decide to play Madden for the first time since 2011 >Pick Bengals cause they are middling in 2019 >Dalton doesn't LEAD A SINGLE FUCKING PASS, EVERY ONE IS SQUARE AT THE RECIEVER NO MATTER WHO IS NEAR THEM >Look in menus for Passing Controls to see how to lead passess >Nothing >End the day on 2 picks/2 fumbles
I used to play All Madden with sliders tweaked for the CPU all day and now I barely beat the Gnats on Normal
He’s got real weapons this year it looks like. Brady with an Arsenal of people to throw to is gonna be a nightmare for the NFL, especially now that they have a legit running game and can abuse play action.
>Edelman >Gordon >Harry >Meyers >Dorsett Honestly not many receiver rooms with that much talent in them
Nathan Peterson
>proceeds to 7-9
Cameron Gonzalez
more like russhit suckson lol
Henry Jackson
The Pats are unironically gonna get their 7th aren't they...?
Shit.
Landon Garcia
I guess, but man it's not fun in a 6min x 4 game. It's hard as fuck to play cause there are no pockets. Even the few times my O-line held them the pocket was wavy and shitty. I found myself checking the QB to make sure he was safe more than actually looking downfield
Jeremiah Martin
Literally "yeah we looked at him haha we swear"
Jaxson Kelly
>Kirk Cousins at 11 >has 4-26 record against teams over .500 God Vikcucks are pathetic
Brody Carter
The defense looks notably improved this year too. Our corner depth is at an insane level and we’re figuring out real pass rushers, inside and outside. Not looking good for the league.
Wyatt Davis
They're getting to the AFCCG at the very least, not even memeing.
Ethan Collins
t. Virgin loser
Dude touch controls are a thing. Welcome to madden 14, you fuck head.
Ian Hill
I'm a Texans fan, though
Easton Gonzalez
You've been able to control ball placement since like Madden 16. You just tilt the joystick in the direction you want to lead the receiver.
James Torres
Even more retarded lol
Zachary Gonzalez
>Says he hasn't played since 11 >Touch controls don't get mentioned in the Controls
No shit idiots
[spoiler]Tbh my money is he isn't setting his feet before he passes[/spoiler]
Charles Diaz
They seem strong everywhere other than tight end.
Daniel Williams
ok
Hunter Russell
>The average Vikqueen family.
Logan King
Chandler Jones ;_;
Cooper Kelly
Haha thats so funny. You're so funny. You must be a real lady killer irl you stud with the constant funny posts.
Thomas Jackson
>tfw Hightower reunited with Collins Corners look great, but our LB group makes me rock hard.
Isaac Watson
>Toxins fan thinks Kirk Cousins is better than QB's who have more than 15 wins against teams over .500 My sides. Also Watson is not top 10, he's more of the 13-14 range
Samuel Nguyen
Taysom Hill is living proof that you can put any quarterback in the Saints' offense and they'll instantly look elite. If you replaced Brees with Hill tomorrow there would be zero falloff because everything is blocked for perfectly.
Matthew Brown
Yeah Collins is gonna be huge, I can already tell they’re gonna use him the same way they used to which is huge. Bentley is gonna have to fight for reps, especially if we end up moving to more of a 4-2-5 like we used to.
Gavin Adams
Kaep going to the iggles since even Pederson want's him or any QB that can play the role. Kaep will be in Philly for week 1 and will start for that team by week 7
Landon Gray
Not that guy, but does that actually change anything in Madden? I really can never understand what is realistic and what’s not year to year. I was great at 18 but suck at 19.
Samuel Green
Gronk is obvious, so I'll go with Wilfork
Isaac Flores
Is Taysom hill the next Steve young ????
Subscribe to my podcast
Kevin Baker
Collins & Bentley taking turns blitzing up the A gap.. unf
Luke Green
>5 year sample size
Kys
Alexander Perez
>8 posts early
Mason Price
Watson got so much fanfare. He was basically the Mahomes of his rookie year, just on a worse team. Now nothing
Jaxon Cruz
Gronk knew he'd be traded to the loins, and retired on the spot to prevent that from happening. We will see Gronk again in 2-3 years on another team since TE culture
Samuel Baker
Yeah cause Bridgewater looked so good....
Jonathan James
>Collins blitzing up the A gap >Wino off the edge >Hightower on the other edge
Eli Perry
Watson got fanfare because Toxins have little to no fans as it is. Why be a toxins fan in that state when you can be a cowgirls fan instead? Also he's going to be exposed this year knowing that team
Aaron Davis
Kaepernick is garbage. That's all there is to it. He was highly over-paid for his career and he still whines like a bitch.
Benjamin Thompson
I'd rather watch Alabama-Clemson again than another Pats owl. Seriously just give someone else a fucking turn.
Justin Butler
>6. Bills
Dominic Smith
And he will bring his ways to Philly because that city loves controversial QBs who were never really that good.
Justin Harris
Your takes suck, I want a refund
>bennett biting on the flinch, 5 yards
Brayden Miller
Someone should step up and earn it.
Gavin Hall
Maybe that will happen when the AFC stops having the downs and actually makes a real team because almost all AFC teams ownership make Jerry Jones look like the smartest owner in the NFL at skeleton age.
Carson Rogers
Based cringeposter
Parker Turner
Only team that will beat the Pats will be the Jags if they make it to the post season since BDN will haunt Brady's dreams again, or simply if the Steelers get their shit together. Id say the colts here, but Luck is killed this year.
Matthew Reyes
Completely forgot about Bennett too, Jesus RIP nfl
Aiden Martin
Anyone thinking the Jets will be better than the Bills is a special needs person and we should treat them with respect, but also hidden shame and disgust.
Matthew Fisher
Does Kansas City have a chance?
Benjamin Garcia
ebinn XD upboatted!!1!
Robert Bell
/Bills Owl 2020/
Elijah Miller
>Andy Reid is their HC
No.
Juan Gray
>Andy Reid >Playoffs Think about that for a minute.
Hypothermia because they're half naked and drunk at home games in November/December
Josiah Davis
Because we’re winning the super bowl
Caleb Stewart
You committed the ultimate cardinal sin, you got personal. You, as a team of professionals trying to make money, got personal. You got personal and decided to insult your playbase, calling us "ass-hats" and "freeloaders". Not a wise move. We won't forget this. You've set a new tone for the kind of interaction we'll be having with you. It's a cold one. One where there aren't any illusions about the reality of the situation. Previous notions of "family" are dead. We are mere consumers to you, and that is obvious. You have chosen to bring in a new era of hostility and bitterness. Well done. Great PR move.
Nathan Wood
Ehh I’ll have to wait. Doesn’t seem like he’s gonna be /tape’d/ in the regular season. I’m calling it now, he’s a new Peyton Manning.
If not the ravens or browns then who
Colton Barnes
Not if you go up against the burrs
Brody Ross
If Foles leads the Jags to their franchise's first SB win like he did with the Eagles... which team's fanbase will have better claim to him?
James Martin
Jaguars since you obvious forgot BDN's magic carpet ride. Also only man still capable to beat Brady in the post season since Eli going full autism mode for his starting position.
Adrian Moore
every time there is any bit of news about a division rival they sperg out in delusion. for example, leveon bell will not play in the preseason to prevent, so according to bills logic this means that they will win week 1 28-3 because bell is "unprepared"
Jaxon Hughes
Rams.
Jacob James
probably jags
Daniel Morris
Thought they were dick riding on the Bortles undefeated season meme?
Lucas Gray
prevent injury*
Owen Morales
Jags because hes their starter and they actually wanted him
Ryan Long
Nick Foles is not a good quarterback!
Isaiah Robinson
If there is a Mt. Rushmore of the Patriots dynasty, Brady and BB and Kraft are the obvious first three. But don’t call the offense scraps when we have had based Dante coaching the o-line and protecting Brady for years. O-line contributes almost as much to variance in seasonal wins as the entire defense in the NFL, and Scar has done more with less year in and year out. He would be the 4th head of the Patriots Mount Rushmore for this dynasty.
Mason Butler
BDN make ya seethe
Justin Morgan
We’re unironically the best fan base in the NFL. Plus we hate niggers for the most part.
Nicholas Stewart
Iggles fans because only cucks like Wince. They all wanted Nick to stay, but the team wanted Wince because they gave a bijillion picks to get him. Also Nick atm is conflicted himself since he went with a new number instead of 9 because it marks his time for Philly and to that cities fans.
Blake Turner
any nfl fan who says this is a fucking retard
Leo Butler
Kaep has beef with Jenkins even though they're both on the same side
Charles Collins
If you ask me, Iggles fans are going have a not so stellar version of the Joe Montana/ Vince Young debate for the next couple of decades.
Lincoln Morgan
Sorry your feewings got hurt, nigger lover.
Aaron Walker
Le'veon hasn't played real football in over a year. His success came behind one of the best o-lines in the league, an o-line the jets do not have. The steelers yards per run went UP in the year that he decided he didn't want to play.
The Jets have a new coaching staff AGAIN. Gase and Williams are both volatile and proven failures. The Bills are entering the 3rd year of the same regime. Darnold looks like an NFL qb but has yet to establish himself as a leader. Josh Allen is a swinging dick.
The Bills spent the off-season filling holes and shoring up the o-line, the Jets over-payed for overrated free-agents.
The Bills are going to beat the shit out of the Jets and it won't even be close, cap it.
Michael Williams
I wanna sniff Charissa Thompson's panties.
Jordan Cook
Cope. You are getting him, and you are going to like it! Just like you wanted to keep Foles, but they chose Wentz because *muh lost picks*. Also spoiler alert, you are not getting Clowney either
Camden Morgan
wow u totally owned me bro. fuckoff with your peabrain racist bs
Michael Nguyen
>an o-line the jets do not have are you retarded? they have one of the best olines in the league, kalil being the weakest link.
John Stewart
This is almost all accurate, but the Darnold stuff is false. He absolutely will be exposed this year and Rosen and him will be confirmed busts from that class.
If he's really a Bills fan I disown him, new york's only football team doesn't tolerate racism.
Jacob Richardson
pooooop and pee :)
Nathan Hall
but oj is black
Dominic Garcia
Please try to back up this statement in any way. The Jets o-lione is trash, that's why they made the desperate move of picking up someone out of retirement.
Adrian Anderson
wtf, how did you land both conner and bell?
Chase Thomas
I’m sorry TuhRod Tygod, it must be hard to keep getting benched for the white man.
Lincoln Mitchell
No he’s not, he’s OJ.
Dylan Gray
is that a bad thing
Jason Nelson
>two of the best guards in the NFL >two solid tackles unless you think brandon shell isn't good?
Alexander Walker
Josh Allen isn’t accurate
Jordan Peterson
my bad but you do have buffalo wings they are black
Sebastian Martin
You mean Steve Young? And I'll laugh if Foles ends up balling for Jax while the Iggles struggle because Wentz either can't stay healthy or doesn't play as well as he did in 2017.
William Lewis
Let's be honest both jests and razorcakes suck.
Only team that can take the AFC East from the Cheatriots hostage is the Dolphins.
Jayden Nelson
no its not, how small is your league?
Charles Sanders
They’re not if they aren’t burnt to a crisp.
Eli Davis
nah
Isaiah Harris
12
Jace Young
How is it Josh Rosen can’t even beat out Ryan Fitzpatrick
Levi Sanchez
The Dolphins are the worst of the four by far. The Jets are a dumpster fire, but they kinda have a future. Worst state only has the washed up Jew “QB”.
Easton Ross
I literally googled offensive line rankings 2019 and the first one had you as 27th. I'm not saying that's accurate, but it should give you a less homer-ish idea of what you're dealing with.
Kevin Edwards
google is not good for football use bing or duckduckgo better results
Leo Murphy
explain then, because in no sane world does either of those two make it past the 8th spot undrafted..
Cooper James
Which team from the playoffs last year will NOT be in the playoffs this year?
Zachary White
thanks elite hacker
Jackson Jenkins
Queefs
Ryan Roberts
We were ranked that low because of our shitty center and two of our starters were injured last season. Bell is running behind a wall with fresh legs, EASILY going to have multiple 100yd games this season.
Wyatt Moore
I actually think the Bills can legit surprise people this year. Maybe like 9-7 or 10-6. All depends on how Josh Allen develops. If he continues to show growth, the Bills may be in a decent position going forward.
Jets seem like a team who was overhyped and is now coming back down to earth. Darnold may still be solid, but I could see the rest of the team imploding all around him.
Dolphins are tanking for Tua.
Regardless I think, sadly, the Pats will win the division again with a 12-4 or 13-3 record.
Nicholas White
Did you watch Pats vs Chargers/Chiefs?
Colton Martin
>Sheagles
Brayden Collins
>wanting Tua over Herbert the Pervert
Nolan Turner
>steelers
Bentley Diaz
Real talk patriots are winning the afc east again and anything else is delusion
Dolphins are tanking The Bills are hoping Josh allen can somehow fix his accuracy which literally almost never happens
Jets have a shit coaching staff and shit talent and best case scenario they go 8-8 because Darnold becomes the jets version of Romo
Mason Sullivan
You know what I mean. Besides, wasn't the Dolphin's GM or owner supposedly in love with Tua?
Jace Hernandez
what THE FUCK is wrong with A Brown?
Zachary Wilson
>6. Bills
Gabriel Ward
>steelers
Lincoln Long
Multiple 100 yard games is totally reasonable. I just think he's going to be surprised how tough it is to run behind a not top-10 o-line. And he's going to be frustrated. And Gase is a hot head, and it will all lead to circus bullshit like the Jets always do.
Colton Taylor
I really like Allen, and this season he’s either going to really make improvements or implode. I really can’t see it being anywhere in the middle.
When the Fins take Tua, where does Rosen even go from here?
Luke Bennett
It's called the Steelers fleeced the Raiders with a literal cancer for the most retarded shit ever. Hope his cousin doesn't end up like him.
Oliver James
>tfw my Billies actually played 4D chess by not getting Brown
Chase Perry
Nice same fag, and also Mahomes gonna get exposed this season like all QB that are like him in their second year.
Caleb Martin
Bell was an awful signing and a bad mix with Gase.
Might help a little in the passing game though
Sebastian Brooks
Must be a good game? ESPN says Wilson and Cousins are looking "sharp" Pic related
NFC: 1. Saints 14-2 2. Seahawks 12-3-1 3. Bears 11-5 4. Giants 10-6 (wishful thinking. either we get punished Eli or Jones steps in and balls out) 5. Rams 11-4-1 6. Vikings 10-6
The bench. At that point he'll be considered a bust. But it'll always be a mystery... what if he was drafted by a different team than the dumpster fire that is the Cardinals? For fuck's sake, I have a feeling Murray's gonna flame out with them too.
Liam Allen
Though Brown is being a complete diva, it's fun seeing drama with the Raiders.
Jaxon Davis
And then you realize Mahomes is Reid project. We all know what happens to those down the line if you watch the Iggle Reid years.
Hunter Cook
>wah wah wah my team sucks ( which it doesn't ) shut up sneak
Brandon Price
Murray is 100% a bust, and he didn’t have to be. The Tards are going to fucking ruin him in the same way. At least he still kinda has baseball.
Jeremiah Garcia
I havent watched football since the 50th superbowl, whats the deal with the helmets???
So this year gonna be Mahomesgoes on the choking habits and throw several picks in the championship game against the Patriots/Steelers
Jonathan Diaz
Not if he keeps playing behind the Cards line. Imagine if he decides to quit football after this year and taking a beating. Where will that leave the Cardinals? They'll have chased away their 2019 #1 pick, and traded their first round 2018 pick.
Ian Bennett
And Nick Bosa gonna snap him like a twig in their first match up. Also who wins Owl between Tardinals or Loins
Gabriel Moore
Bell is an upgrade to what they had, but if they're relying on him to be a game changer they fucked up.
Zachary Wood
Delaine Walker, Based Jamaican Bobsledder. The Smith brothers in Justin and Aldon
Jonathan Edwards
New helmets are implanted with 5G technology that erase the memory of the sons of yakub, we must stand with our black brother AB and oppose the use of head protection.
Eli Parker
Who's gonna be the T.O for Mahomes if it actually does play out like how the old Reid Project in McNabb was?
Anthony Bell
The only reasonable explanation I've heard desu
Brandon Stewart
he takes pressure off darnold, thats all that matters.
Nathan Williams
I know what you mean, but that mfer has an unparalleled amount of pressure on him, not only did a NYC team draft him high, the other NYC team passed on him and will be keeping a close eye on him to see if they fucked up. Fans, media, etc. An overpaid RB isn't gonna fix that.
Logan Price
How are the Jets O-line?
Ayden Watson
Exceedingly bad
Cameron Evans
Tim Brown Charlie Garner Charles Woodson Rod Woodson Jerry Porter Rich Gannon Zach Crockett Nnamdi Asomugha Michael Bush Lamarr Houston Kirk Morrison Thomas Howard Sam Williams Zach Miller Khalil Mack Latavius Murray Sio Moore Justin Tuck Marshawn Lynch
Bentley Brooks
Bell ran behind an excellent O-line in Pittsburgh. Should be interesting to see how he adapts.
Ryan Ward
Obviously Hill. the Chiefs would be stupid to extend him, but they probably will.
Jace Bennett
That's why Conner was able to replace Bell so easily. Your offensive line matters more than who your actual RBs are
Isaiah Lopez
Think they already did behind closed doors. But least the Chiefs already won a owl before the Reid project came to town.
Austin Nelson
How is Aldon I haven't found anything on him recently, buddy told me he was practicing with the Raiders but nothing doing there
Juan Ward
That's the thing about Reid. He'll never win an Owl, but he'll get enough wins to stick around for over a decade. Effectively closing the Chiefs window with Mahomes getting 20% of their cap for the rest of his time there.
Joseph Price
Bell's gonna get shut down vs Buffalo, NYC media will blame it on him not participating in preseason, Gase will get offended, snowball of bullshit will be steady rollin' right of the bat...
Jets football!!!
Colton Barnes
Now show his stats for just the last two years he played.
Asher Collins
Who is/was a bigger choke artist? Reid? Or Marty Schottenheimer?
Gavin Garcia
Probably drunk
Literal hof talent destroyed by booze and dumb decisions
Nicholas Powell
Phil Dawson, Joe Thomas, Josh Cribbs, Mitchell Schwartz, Alex Mack, 2013 Josh Gordon, Earnest Byner, Ozzie Newsome
Anthony Morales
I don't have much time Aaron Rodgers will win his third MVP this year Wait fuck it's 2019? okay not this year but nex
Jaxson Reed
Warren Moon was pretty damned good, user
Oliver Rivera
Why do you think they are getting him when they already are signing McClown
Carson Perez
eagles. he played there for years before he got chip'd
Henry Brooks
Reid easily.
Aiden Reed
thats superbowl MVP Nick Foles to you, retard
Justin Jenkins
He's not even a top 5 black quarterback my dude.
Nathan Butler
>Decide to start a Madden Franchise with the Bengals cause I am bored >Get sacked 6-8 times a game before I can even drop back >Pressure on every other play >Even if those weren't the case Daltons accuracy is about on par with a poorly made slingshot >AJ Green tears his ACL week 2
Matthew Clark
And some of his best years were wasted in the CFL because the NFL is literally racist. It's a fucking shame how his career got hamstrung like that.
Oliver Johnson
It's called McClown breaks his back because he's a old boomer piece of shit who only went on the Iggles to chase rings. Also he's a clown as the name suggest.
Ayden Sanchez
Reid's pissed away way more talent. Remember when the Steelers beat them with nothing but field goals?
Samuel Phillips
why do the Eagles cause this much asspain in this general lmao
Nolan Miller
It only took 1 ring for them to turn into Cowboys fans.
Reid is basically a reverse Belichick. Cant win owls despite have superior pieces while Belichick been relying on a similar pattern for the past 2 decades. Only thing Reid beats Belichick in is having better proteges turned head coaches. All of Belichick's proteges been complete fucking bust while most of Reid's have made struggling teams into playoff contenders, and even having one of them win a superbowl before him, and against Belichick's Patriots of all teams.
Lincoln Young
>play NFL 2k5 on JBPS3 >Go 0-4 with the Raiders >trade for Kurt Warner >he gets hurt week 7 and my raiders finish 3-13 >fast forward next season >start out 5-4, lose Porter and throw to nobodies for the rest of the season >10-6
Football games are a huge RNG gamble imo, user
Juan Powell
He's still a clown tho who will be gone before week 1 and replaced by Kaepernick since you cant change destiny for that team or it's obvious culture. Said team brought in Vick and will do the same with Kaepernick.
Noah Nguyen
really? I was an Eagles fan and I'm still an Eagles fan. whyd they start following the cowboys
Going into 2019, I'd say Julio Jones since AB decided to let his mental insanity run free.
Connor Fisher
The worst part about jerseys is they are cut and fitted for shoulder pads. You are literally paying 200 dollars to look like a homeless person wearing a trash sack
Adam Richardson
He's not crazy he's just passionate
Nicholas Scott
Danny Jones is gonna be a top-3 qb for a decade and every big nose journalist that never even strapped on pads is gonna act like they didn't call him the worst draft pick in a decade.
Dylan Wilson
>post yfw Jones, Barkley, Engram and Shepard become the NFL's newest offensive hydra and destroy everyone in their path
Isaac Murphy
>literally refusing to play over a helmet that's not passionate, thats crazy
Lucas Davis
he's not gonna see playing time this season because muh eli
Gavin Barnes
Eli was perfect on his only drive the other night and the Giants look like an actual football team for the first time in 10 years.
Juan Scott
>preseason
Isaiah Nelson
that's a weird way of spelling Rodgers, Jones, Graham and Adams
Kevin Johnson
So did Belichick and Brady scheme up the whole supposed division over Jimmy G to make him look like a better trade than he was??
Cooper Myers
I attended every Giants preseason game in '16 before I moved away from home. They couldn't block ANYONE even in preseason that year.
Brody Thompson
yeah, im thinking thats pretty based
Noah Harris
So they went from trash to mediocre?
Lucas Stewart
So you're saying all it took to get shit in line was revamping the o-line, tossing out the talented-but-cancerous players, and getting legit competition behind Eli?
It really took us almost 10 fucking years to realize this and get our shit together? What the fuck was the FO doing in that time - twiddling its thumbs?
Evan Young
>they're better in preseason games than they were three years ago!!! holy shit this is unironically the most delusional homer thing I've ever read on this god forsaken vietnamese quilting website
Henry Ward
They hired a nigger for GM and Mara is a retard that has a crush on Eli because he had a few good games 7 years ago. If the Giants get it together by 2020 they will be lucky
Brayden Garcia
Jerry Reese prioritized "muh athleticism" in all personnel decisions. The problem was that the Giants winning Super Bowl XLVI bought him time, and then Odell Beckham having a stretch where he was virtually unstoppable at the end of the '14 season bought him EVEN MORE TIME despite the fact the roster around him was bad.
Think about it: If Odell doesn't make le amazing one handed catch in the Cowboys game, does Reese not get fired at the end of that season?
Wyatt Lewis
Julio, he's better than AB and also not a fucking manchild.
Luis Ortiz
Give AB Julio's Helmet
Aiden Cook
Preseason games are a much better predictor of a team's strengths and weaknesses than it's given credit for. That preseason I could have told you right from the outset that the Giants would be elite on defense and completely pathetic on offense.
It's like, I tell people how historically awful the offensive lines Eli has had to play behind have been, and they either don't believe me or give me some deranged answer ("HE SHOULD JUST SCRAMBLE LIKE RUSSELL WILSON!!!"). Like Ereck Flowers is just some bogeyman that we made up.
Oliver Cruz
Tonight we thank the Vikings ruining the Seacucks season.
Adrian Robinson
im confused, Odell was cancerous
Zachary Smith
What is it with Julio not being a headcase despite being a dominant all-time talent? You look at guys like AB and Odell and you just marvel at how Julio hasn't been an ounce of trouble for the Falcons since Day One.
Xavier Johnson
Graham already dislocatex his finger. Hes beyond washed.
Jonathan Hughes
Juju is too pure for this world, guys
Charles Lopez
Julio is white
Michael Butler
>why be a toxins fan in instead of a cowgirls fan only ~10% of the population is gay
Parker Wright
>Headhunts an opposing DB because he's getting shut down >Throws massive tantrum on sideline because he's getting shut down >Goes on a boat trip instead of preparing for playoff game >Drops every important pass that goes his way in said playoff game and gets shut down by Ladarius motherfucking Gunter >Heavily implies he would rather play on the West Coast during contract negotiations >Goes behind the team's back to make media appearance where he passively-aggressively implies that the Giants being bad is Eli's fault >Undermines coaches by complaining about playcalling, demands he gets the football >Tells the media after he gets traded "I WAS THE ONLY REASON ANYONE EVER CARED ABOUT THE GIANTS!!!! ME!!!!!!"
lmao what the hell do you think
Colton Kelly
And that just proves the point that the Toxins are Jest level of retarded.
Luke Foster
Or get exposed by week 1 because there's a reason every says *it's only preseason.*
Jeremiah Roberts
He's passionately crazy
Parker Wood
To be fair there are plenty of all time talented WRs who aren't fucking niggers as well, look at Larry Fitz, TY Hilton, Hopkins. We just hear about the absolute niggers more often.
Benjamin Flores
Julio isn't insecure.
Evan Cooper
Nice to see a knowledgable NYG fan around here. Nothing to add really but, good posts.
Jordan Brown
Hopkins is kind of noggish
Oliver Moore
Im completely obessive about >my team but don't even care about what's going on around the league. I could probably name 20 guys that are going to be cut from our 90 but I am absolutely clueless about most other teams outside of the obvious. Is this normal?
>Preseason games are a much better predictor of a team's strengths and weaknesses than it's given credit for. Not really. Offensive output and defensive output during preseason games have no significant correlation with regular season output numbers, nor do preseason records reflect regular season success. They are rightfully considered useless.
The literal only thing you should be looking at in preseason is backup quarterback performance, and only relative to each other really. Most of them aren't playing against starters at full potential.
So while you can get a sense of something like QB accuracy, team potency or defensive/offensive capabilities for the year are 100% unknown in preseason.
Thomas Ramirez
Depends. Tell me the team.
Robert Sanders
true, tonyan will be OK though
Carter Clark
No.
Austin Reyes
Ok, I think I can safely assess that you are a gay retard then and are very abnormal and queer.
Isaiah Kelly
SKOL Vikings
Joshua Taylor
Naw dude. You're talking about preseason W/L, records which are perfectly useless, but seeing how the first team plays and seeing if the backups are capable absolutely can be seen in preseason.
Landon Russell
Damn.
Xavier Johnson
Seahawks might end up last in the division this year.
Luis Richardson
Why does Jon Gruden have a 10 year 100 million dollar contract?
Michael Johnson
Obviously >trade Jimmy G for a 2nd >get Hoyer and Trent brown dirt cheap >both contribute directly to the Pats winning sb53 >Jimmy injured again and has still only started 10 games
The league allows the Pats to play on easy mode
Noah Bennett
>Former Bears RB Cedric Benson dead at 36 Are we just going to ignore this? I'm a 27 year old boomer and remember Benson pretty well. Played for the Bears and Bengals and was pretty decent. Rest in peace, Cedric.
Luke Evans
I was clarifying the W/L is definitely, undebateably useless. But so is the overall offense and defense output during preseason. Literally has zero correlation. Highly successful offenses during preseason can wind up bottom 10 during the real deal. It's essentially random.
You might try to evaluate individual player performance, but that is super hard to do outside of anything that is basic such as passer accuracy. Because those things can be looked at in a vacuum, even though the situation is a little less stressful than a real game. It's still a full contact game.
Evaluating anything beyond that is tough because the disparity in skill levels between backups is a lot less "known" and the disparity between skill levels would have a lot more variance than starter vs starter does.
But if you think you really can, be specific with me. How would you go about evaluating backup players during preseason in a useful way that realistically translates to regular season success?
Jose Perry
He's full of himself, but he doesn't cause headaches for his team.
Nathan Rivera
Because at one point in time long before you were alive, he lead a garbage team to a Owl and won. Once.
Brandon Anderson
It's the only way they could get him out of the booth was to throw obscene money and job security to rebuild the Raiders for Las Vegas.
Levi Peterson
Based. Who's your cousin?
Charles Cruz
To be less meme, the reason I asked is because if your team is really awesome and successful, it's more understandable to me to be obsessed with them. If your team is the Bucs or Lions something and you have that deep of a knowledge about them, that's just sorta sad to me.
Wyatt Wilson
Grow broader shoulders
Cooper Flores
He did a good draft segment on nfl network and he won a superbowl with a florida team which is widely considered impossible.
Asher Brown
Cousins
Jaxson Smith
Maybe
Jace Cox
Huh? No, I mean whats your cousins name.
Logan Perez
Cousins
Ryder King
Stop it.
Anthony Turner
I mean, the 1s usually play against the 1s and the 2s against the 2s etc so when a team looks cohesive and competant that's a good sign for the regular season.
An OL that gets blown off the ball in preseason is not going to suddenly put it together in week 1. A quarterback that is throwing ducks or bouncing passes into the dirt is not going to get more accurate week 1. There are going to be drops, fumbles, blown calls and all that shit but when you are playing a vanilla offense vs a vanilla defense it is pretty easy to see who has the physical tools to get the job done.
It's not easy to tell how well a median team will perform because they are just average, and coaching and luck can mean a huge variance between 5-11 and 10-6. But teams that are elite and teams that are hopeless are usually easy to spot in preseason.
Andrew White
Why not? What's wrong with DNA testing to find out your background?
Kevin Powell
Nyg. The eli curse of every bad team potentially winning a ring. Its like ptsd but the opposite.
Grayson Evans
Cedric was better known for his play at UT than his NFL career. I have no idea why anybody is acting like his NFL career was relevant at all. It's like Vince Young dying and saying "Titans QB." It just sounds wrong.
Jaxson Nelson
Based Holton Hill doing work before his 8 game suspension
My bad, should have clarified earlier. I meant "cousin's" not "cousins" since you previously mentioned that it was your cousin (singular) playing in the NFL. Anywho, can you tell me what your cousin's name is? The one playing in the NFL, that is.
Christian Roberts
What week does sloter take over for the vikings? I'm thinking week 4.
Josiah Torres
I'm thinking he's cut.
Tyler Anderson
Pretty doubtful
Jaxon Moore
12-4, faggot. It's insane to me people still doubt Wilson and Pete Carroll.
Carter Myers
I just got done watching the highlights on the Pats new DE/OLB that's tore up the lions RT. Is there something that I'm missing? Hes not bad but can he actually beat a decent starting tackle? If he keeps this up during the season I'll eat my words but I dont think he does
Lincoln Lee
Giants will never regret taking Barkley. He's a generational talent and future HoF
Hunter Johnson
i just farted and i need to pee but i dont want to get up from my chair. help me bros
Sebastian King
He's not a generational talent, and neither is Zeke or Gurley. People throw that term around way too much. The last true generational running back was Adrian Peterson.
John Gomez
Ah yes, how could I forget about all the great Giants running backs of the past 10 years, like
Jacob Cook
I wouldn't call zeke a generational talent, but rather a great player that will be Hof if he continues this pace. Barkley on the other hand is a once every 30 years kind of player, definitely a generational talent along either AD. This was the game last year that made me realize this.
1 season under his belt to put together this montage. Sick.
James Cruz
Jesus hes not human
Jeremiah Reyes
12 losses 4 wins? I would believe it.
You're starting off winless with no pass rush, no Metcalf since he's out for surgery on his knee, and Carson and Lockett your only players outside Wilson making plays. It's going to be a long season for you.
Adam Cooper
He'll pull a double team or a line stunt that blindsides him and he's going to be solid, but not amazing.
Wyatt Harris
Stay in denial, people said the same sort of things last year. Look what happened
Josiah Cruz
Yeah, you got curbstomped by the 49ers backups at home and limp dicked your way in to a wild card birth that you didn't advance forward in because your team sucks.
>Jets coach Adam Gase publicly calls himself out for playing starting LB Avery Williamson in the second preseason game last week. Williamson suffered a season-ending knee injury. Why are some franchises perennial dumpster fires?
Nolan Smith
Take away quarterbacks and who has the worst roster? I'm going with Seahawks. Barely. It's their coaching that will elevate them.
Luis Ortiz
Now post their wins, faggot
Luke Garcia
Wins aren't a QB stat
Nicholas Rivera
>This cope
Elijah Young
>viqueens
Dominic Baker
Test
Carson Baker
Last for Packers
Luke Campbell
New thread, lads
Sebastian Jenkins
Buffalo is on that border where it seems so extreme that it’s either a very cool place to live or a terrible place to live. Like imagine living in a city during pic related.