How did Ajax pull this off? are they the new Porto when it comes to overrated scams?
De Ligt has been horrible so far
>overrated scams
Name 10 in the last 10 years
Also, get ready for a whole new bunch of young Portuguese Porto talents that won the Youth League
One hasn't played a single professional game for his new club and the other played one, in which he was among the better players on the pitch. What did OP, the faggot, mean by this?
The Eredivisie in general has always been very good at making players seem "elite"
Remember Afonso Alves?
Yeah total shit all the way into the CL semis
>so far
Obv meant for Juventus, dumbass
Ally Cissohko
Bruno Alves
Hulk
James Rodriguez
Mangala
Iturbe
Fernando
Danilo
Imbula
Jackson Martinez
Andre Silva
>De Jong
>world class on sundays smashing Varkenshouders FC
>garbage against Juve and Spurs
>y-you just wait he's the best midfielder in the world
>garbage in Nations League
>y-you just wait he's the best midfielder in the world
>garbage in pre-season friendlies
>y-you just wait he's the best midfielder in the world
>garbage against Bilboa
>y-you just wait he's the best midfielder in the world
I like how his fans went from best in the world to "amongst the better players on the pitch" in a couple of days.
keep moving those goal posts, by next week you'll be like
>well at least he's in the starting 11
they were one season wonders, deal with it.
>Cissohko
Eheheh, those were some great six months... yeah, he disappointed
>Bruno Alves
Great at Zenit, which was a team good enough for him. Still plays at a professional level in a relevant league, despite all odds against it
>Hulk
Not our fault he made some poor career choices. Could have played at barcelona
>James
Fuck you, he is great and you know it
>Mangala
Yeah, he disapppinted. I was surprised to see Otamendi become a starter at City and Mangala a flop
>Iturbe
This one was our own fault
>Fernando
He was good for a while, has a nice career that is in touch with his talent
>Danilo
Will start at Juventus
>Imbula
He was a flop in Porto! Not our fault Stoke is dumber than us
>Jackson
He couldn't have predicted Griezmann.
>andre silva
Too soom to be called a flop
I just think it's amazing these one-season wonders got massive transfers whereas Ziyech has been borderline world class for a couple of years now but no one wants him for 30M
because he is a moroccan with shit mentality
Based and twainpilled.
Mangala
James Rodriguez
Andre Silva
Jackson Martinez
Danilo
Imbula
Diogo Dalot
Aly Cissokho
Juan Iturbe
Fredy Guarin
So, you are arguing against one extreme with another extreme? Badass gypsy intellect.
>>garbage in pre-season friendlies
What? One of the reasons people were so hyped about him was because he was great in the pre-season. Even against Bilbao he was one of the better players from the barca side.
>dalot
lol remember when he ran forward like a blind horse with a 2-0 lead and ajax conceding in the inevitable counter and getting dabbed on in the remainder of the match and LOSE. epic times
>varkenshouders fc
ete pula
>Ziyech has been borderline world class
imagine being this delusional lmao
at least he's a starter for Barcelona unlike us haters amiright
>Badass gypsy intellect.
sagte der kebab farmer
They will be goat though. Already judging players that have not even played a whole season. Just because they are hyped
>Ziyech has been borderline world class
>t. ziyad el ahmadi
>Ziyech has been borderline world class
>James Rodriguez
>bad
Lol
he's that guy who scored 7 goals in one game, right?
De Jong is an execptional player and therr's no doubt in my mind that he will be a GOAT barca player
De Ligt is an absolute overhyped meme that makes absolute critical errors in both the Dutch NT and at Ajax.
Boca Jrs is even worse. They sold Benedetto to Olympique de Marseille and Magallan to Ajax. Some people here think it has to be money laundering
>De Jong is an execptional player
with a net result that's similar to stijn schaars
Mach's wie der Albo-Adler und schwirr ab, Shkodran.
Name one (1) player we sold as a big name at the time that dident become a star in one of Europes top leagues.
Milik because he got injured, and he will probably still make it.
The end.
Huntelaar
sanchez, klaassen spring to mind
Everton isn't a big team
I remember Schaars!
A fucking meme
van der Meyde
van der Vaart
Pienaar
Trabelsi
Emanuelson
van der Wiel
Ryan Babel
Christian Poulsen
Cillessen
They always been like that. Not only overrated scam player, but managers and coaches too. They're a sect.
Mateja Kezman
de jong is already the best midfielder barca have
>big name
Van der Vaart star at Tottenham, starting 11 at Real Madrid.
The rest were not even top/big players at Ajax.
De Ligt is just a less hotheaded Ramos. Makes retarded mistakes that lead to opposition chances, but it's ok because he scores le epic headers :)
Frenkie is actually great. His (and barca's) problem is Valverde.
Barça's problem is much bigger than just Valverde.
Barca's problem is Messi
He tries to control the club and everything in their game is cenetred around him, so if he's playing badly Barca has no plan B and loses
Have you seen his body
>chokes against Rubin Kazan
>star at Tottenham
>big team
>starting 11 at Real Madrid
>star
>van der Meyde wasnt a big player
lmao yes he was and he was garbage for Inter
What went through your mind when you put Christian Poulsen in your list
>Iturbe
kek that guy was hilarious he played like he was on crack
Ziyech is great but he's just one of many skinny shitskin wannabe attackers. You can't have an entire squad full of one type of player. He's one year past his prime, has a questionable NT choice, has a questionable personality despite cleaning his act up. He really did well last year and I wish him the best transfer he can have, but I'm afraid clubs look at it differently. They are investing massive cash reserves and aren't convinced by redemption stories at the age of 27.
De Jong seems to be from ancient Aryan gene stock. His mind works in a unique way. Meanwhile I caught de Ligt on numerous occasions with modern mudblood decision taint. I firmly believe personality and behavior translates to on field performance and potential. He's a quick grower and mature. But apart from that, just look..
> dates a semi turkroach girl with brown beady eyes
> dumps her despite her obvious loyalty to his cause
> starts dating a self overestimating blonde with a delusional family that's been irrelevant for years
> centers all his life's choices around this girl and her tiny wishes
> gets over emotional in big games going on the attack while he should defend, big Virg shows more intellect despite not being fully white
> handles his captaincy with a minimalist attitude, not gelling at all with half the squad, sticking with those that bring him comfort, aka the white guys
> is easily impressed by the types of Neuer who left him hanging mid hand shake for a painful 5-10 seconds until he was done shaking the hands of all the refs
> gets emotional during the clubs title celebration and begins to sing club songs with his fucked up voice with the whole town watching, probably couldn't handle the alcohol they drank that day
> has trouble already acclimating to the new squad and club enviorment
de Jong does all of this better, he's more reserved, more calculated in his behavior, he's more open towards other players, he's less reliant on 'muh ajax youth rep'
seethe more gipsyking
De Jong has unironically looked like the second coming of young Busquets playing for Barca so far.
van der vaart was unironically the biggest talent I've ever seen, too bad he shit up his career by the time he was 22
you are fucking autistic
>everything in their game is cenetred around him, so if he's playing badly Barca has no plan B and loses
This is true, but this is Valverde's fault. Friday's game against Bilbao made this abundantly clear.
Barca are way too static off the ball right now. They're so used to just giving Messi the ball and letting him dribble past defenders and play magical through balls that they've forgotten one of the most important aspects of how they used to play for Pep: constant movement off the ball to drag defenders this way and that and create chaos in the defense. They've gotten lazy; they don't need to run like mad for 90 minutes when Messi will just bail them out anyways most of the time. They've forgotten how to break defenses down with movement off the ball because they simply rely on Messi to break defenses down.
Barca look completely fucking impotent when Messi isn't playing and when they fail to get Messi the ball enough because of this lack of movement off the ball. This is Valverde's fault.
Van Der Vaart was GOAT
Everyone will forget how bad they are when Messi returns to save Barcelona and Juve walk the league like the last 8 years.
If a defender makes an error it's usually a goal, if de Jong makes an error de Ligt was there to clean it up
Unfair comparison
>van der vaart was unironically the biggest talent I've ever seen
he would have been perfect for Barcelona where he would have walked around passing sideways to Xavi and occasionally score a blooter
>but this is Valverde's fault
if they get a more strict manager Messi would pull a Zlatan and start texting the Barca board
>wow you hired that guy so I guess you think I'm shit huh?
>Messi would pull a Zlatan and start texting the Barca board
Like he did with Pep?
also look at their managers after Pep:
some dead guy, Martino, one season wonder Enrique, and Valverde. literal whos who cant handle Messi and have no authority in the locker room.
Mourino would unironically do a great job because he would tell Messi 'either you track back mark&defend or get benched this isn't the 1970s'
but hey everything looks good when they smash Huesca 12-3 on sundays.
never reply to TWAIN. you don't give retards attention. let him use his proxies to get (You)s as usual so it doesn't seem like people are ignoring his retardation. also sage his threads
Van der Meyde was always meme tier.
Sancez will make it.
Klaassen was barely good enough for Ajax