/nfl/ General - Actual Giants Edition

Another day another delusional fan that thinks their shitty backup qb is worth draft picks

Superbowl incoming

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Because I think he realizes no one is going to pay Dak the ~$35 million he wants. I mean, assuming Brady/Rivers/Brees/Big Ben don't retire who the fuck would be in the market for a QB? Miami and Cincinatti and Tampa maybe. But they're all likely to have top 5 picks and probably would draft a QB instead

>Iggles fans think Nate Sudfeld is worth a 2nd rounder

serious question: has a bald(ing) QB ever won an owl?

>forgetting that bradford and teddy were traded for

retard

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>mariota

Peyton

Dilfer

Who?

There's been plenty of great follicly-challenged QBs in the league's history.

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>delanie walker healthy

yeah i'm thinkin we're back

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>I'M NOT CRAZY, I'M JUST A LITTLWE UNWELL
>I KNOW RIGHT NOW YA' CAN'T TELL
>BURT STAY A WHILE, AND BABY THEN YOULL SEE
>A DIFFERENT SIDE OF ME

*INHALES*

streamable.com/qg1un

>pitts delayed an hr
>streaming apps stopped working

shit

F L E E T

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>5th highest paid guard getting BTFO by a 5th round rookie

lamo

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Obsession

Hmm

Cowboys by a mile

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Champions

>Champions
Sorry that's IRON, you faggot.

INCORRECT

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...

Vicucks, never won an owl but have lost enough. Fans think they're perennial contenders. Even the Bills Mafia admits when their team is shit.

You gotta give BB credit, he knows how to pick people for his system. He can make schmucks look all pro.

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>datass.jpg

jerry jones is a massive cuck, just like you

>browns
>3 seed

lolno

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Vikings by a long shot, they don't even have a bad team but the way the post it's like they already won the owl when it's likely they won't even win the division.

this

who'll win the North?

I know who wont

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I think bears, but it's not going to be nearly as easy as it was last year, the puckers will be actual competition this time and I wouldn't be at all surprised if they won.

Next year r-right?

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Always next year

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>"defensive guru"
>his guys cant count to 12

Wrong. He schemes around his talent to bring out their best.

2 more years before we fire him and hire another shitty coach. I wonder if Mike McCarthy will still be around by then

>aints winning playoff games on the road
"No"

>puckers will be competition
I don't know about that, Rodgers is being openly passive agressive with his coach. Their team doesn't look bad though on paper.

>yfw da bears win da superb owl

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bears 45%
packers 35%
vikings 20%

God I hope not. I miss caldwell, after years of being shit being mediocre was kind of nice.

>Rodgers is being openly passive agressive with his coach
barely. he won 2 mvps and supposedly hated mccarthy (even I doubt that) anyway

I haven't really been following packers preseason so i was saying that on the assumption that rogers will be fully back to form, if he's going to be a bitch again then the bears should take it pretty easily.

>Be Saffold
>Get lit up in the SB a few months ago by Elandon Roberts on a block
>Get lit up even worse in preseason by a rookie tonight

Saffold is sick of seeing the Patriots

is bilicheck telling them to get all these penalties on purpose?

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>New OC
>Stafford not even starting 1 drive

This season isn't looking too good

Let me rephrase that, he knows how to pick people he can scheme around.

Their oline looked like complete shit last week, the commentators were on damage control saying that it was second string but they had starters letting guys through.

Houston Texans more like Pooston Shitstains

They haven't had a good oline since Linehan and even that's because Stafford was throwing the ball almost as fast as Peyton

>if he's going to be a bitch again
havent seen anything to suggest he would be
this time last year he called out his rookie recievers for not practicing right and mccarthy for firing his QB coach, but there hasn't been anything close to that this preseason

Why does Dante Fowler get styled on by RBs so much?
youtu.be/zl9eLvFpwgE

twitter.com/BearReport/status/1072331164009029632

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>tommylee lewis

>seething that he doesn’t have 3 first names

Chiefs 3 and out, has the NFL figured out Mahomes?

We can only hope

>3 first names
>no middle name

>preseason

>Mahomes can’t out play 3rd stringers in pre season

NOW HERES A GUY

Thomas Edward Patrick

>don’t play championship game
>claim victor
18-1 proved you can have a high record mean absolutely nothing

For me, it's the AAF World Champions. The Orlando Apollos.

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You now remember Julius Thomas

Who below .500 expectations here???

Bronnies reporting in

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>-7 passing yards

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>Broncos
>below .500
Probably below .300 to be quite honest with you family member.

Not me.

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What's second base?

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for me, it's Philadelphia Colin Kaepernick signing.

>Titans starters playing Patriots backups
>it's basically a tie game

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brownies, what were your thoughts on today's game and how do you think we'll do in the future? i was pleased with how they played today and i'm optimistic for the future for once

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>Detroit Lions=stuck in eternal there's always next year.
Least you can help the rest of the NFL and bang up your division rivals right?

bobs

2-0 baby

Raiders and it's not close. They think they won the Owl after getting AB and they shit talk on and on

Didn't the Browns go 4-0 in the Preseason before going 0-16?

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as did the loins

>signing a walking meme to coach your team for 10 years

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I don't understand how Raiders fans can even show their faces after hiring an outdated Monday night football announcer as a coach and an NFL network draft analyst as a GM. This after trading away Khalil Mack, which I don't even hate, as they got a hoard of picks, but then they pick up Antonio Brown. It's embarrassing.

This is just a quick reminder that the Titans played their starters and they're losing to the Patriots pure backup team.

hope both franchises die in a fire

I now remember that pants fan who argued that Greir was a better QB than Stidham.

BASED

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This fucking Pats game is giving me flashbacks to the Steelers game with all the god damn penalties.

He is

Christ pat fans talked up Ryan Mallett and Danny Etling too

It's fucking depressing to me that Patriots have enough depth that they basically have an entire backup team that would probably go 9-7.

Danny Etling has long been a meme.

is that actually old gay

I'm glad everyone that'll be cut by the Patriots will be picked up by another team. Hope they do well.

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Lions won't win a game be it pre or regular season. Damn....

They also play in what has been one of the two shittiest divisions in football for about a decade. AFC South being the other one.

It's all about fact, better poise, better mechanics (by far), better vision, better ball placement, even a better mobillity at this point.

Just watch the tapes. They just fell for the memetic stat padding Big 12 (Mayfield is legit tho').

bears!

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You now realize that game was also a road game. In Titans territory.

>a cowshit ded not even a minute in
Noice

Who? I'm not watching.

Who /2-0/ here?

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Who /0-2/ here?

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None of what you said is true

I’m not even a panthers fan but you taking a victory lap after one game is hilarious

>They also play in what has been one of the two shittiest divisions in football for about a decade.
>AFCE
>Shit
Wrong. Fuck off with this debunked meme.

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The Brendaissance is still going strong, user.

go cowboys!

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you should have seen the first drive of the Redskins/Bungels game.
all of the bungels yards came from penalties, got within the 20, and then Andy Dalton had a pass deflected and intercepted for a pick-six.

Prescuck is going to get killed

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WHY IS DAK SO BAD AT THROWING THE BALL AWAY

the black half

Gallup > Cooper

>flags on the first play i open up the stream in
this needs to stop. no flags ever

Tony Pollard putting zeke on the hot seat?

*blocks your path*

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Tony Pollard reminding me of a darren sproles. If Zeke would agree to a deal, Cowboys would have a deadly combo.

So since we're all about overreacting here, which picks (from, lets say, the first 3 rounds) from this past draft have looked like busts so far?

Who else here excited for the overrated sheagles getting assblasted again via sports analyst Vegas dicksuckers?

All of them

Kyler Murray is probably fucked. It's not so much the preseason performance as much as you realize that little nigga is going to be running for his life every play since the Cardinals O-line is absolute trash. He doesn't even stand a fair chance. It's going to be a repeat of Nosen.

Josh Gordon.

Chill, it's been 2 games. But where the thread at

It's going to be kinda funny if Wentz goes down to injury. They're so fucked if that happens. Patriots would have been fucked if Tom went down last year, but now they have Stidham who looks like he could do okay.

>team that loses it's starting QB is in big trouble

Got any more nuggets of wisdom for us, Mr Bug Brain?

Honestly fuck the tits and their douchenozzle head coach

Josh McCown can lead the way

>team that won its only ring when their starting QB went down
>team whose dynasty started because of a starting QB going down
I named those two teams for a reason. Not all backups are equal, my retarded friend.

Why do you hate Vrabel? Seems solid to me.

>balled out on the jest
>now on iggles and will start week 2
based. hes going to win the super bowl

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>have video doorbell that alerts me and records every time it detects a person
>gotten 6 "person detected" alerts in the last 30 mins
>don't see anyone on camera
>no shadows or any other movement

Should I be worried, guys?

>Not all backups are equal
The Eagles are doing a good job of making sure they’re all equally crippled

I’ll miss you, user.

I hope Luck is fine and some other team's QB goes down so we can trade Brisket or $wag Kelly for a first rounder

look behind you

No, my bedroom window is behind me and I'm scared to look outside although I don't see anything on my outdoor cameras then again they don't have 100% coverage

dis thread about 2 get spoopy

Nobody would give you a first for either of them. Brisket is too close to free agency, and Kelly couldn't even be picked up the AAF.

Probably a trash panda.

Why do people think brissett is good

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>mostly stopped playing vidya after graduating and getting a job
>go to Yea Forums for the first time in 2 years
>post on my Verizon phone
>ISP range banned
>use my AT&T tablet
>ISP range banned
>connect to my Spectrum wifi
>ISP range banned

I see the mods are still trash on that godforsaken board

Are you joking or just racism?

He looked pretty good in 2017 when Luck was out.

:(

>in 16 fucking years the mods have yet to make decent mod tools and resort to range bans due to being lazy retards

I don't get it. Just copy Reddit's mod tools and autofilter. It's literally open source.

Neither

Not really. The team imploded with him at qb. He holds the ball way too long.

That's good that you don't see yourself as racist but you should look into Ethnic Nepotism.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_nepotism

>The team imploded with him at qb. He holds the ball way too long.

He had a shit team, shit coach in Pagano, and got traded in early Sept. He did really well with what he was given

>wentz’s legacy will be that he is forever a cuck
Oh no no no

Okay but that doesn’t excuse Jacoby Brissetts subpar passing stats and losing record

Just a dbag. Acts like he's a HoFer just because he won a couple owls with Brady

>a bloo bloo bloo

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*beats you with extreme ease*

>connection error

God I hate this shithole so much. Shut it down, Hiro. Set me free.

looks like cherry picked stats to be fair

Is it cringe or based that the Iggles brought in a literal who dinosaur of a QB over Kaepernick?

you are legally retarded to be fair

100% based.
>mccown wins owl
>carson wince goes down
>hoyer wins owl
>cuckson intz goes down
>"t-they should sign kaepernick!"
>fitzpatrick wins owl

thats just not factually accurate baka

Thought it was just me because of shit internet connection.

>parents still don't realize that my guy "friend" that I constantly hang out with and sleep over at is my boyfriend
>they still ask me when I'm going to marry a girl and give them grandkids

I don't understand how people can be so oblivious

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>hamburger
>cheese burger
>chicken nuggets wins the race
>out of burgers
>T-They should've ordered KFC
>cheeseburger wins it all

Happens regularly for varying lengths of time since Hiro is a cheap fuck and the mod team is retarded

I think Vrabel was actually a great player, though? I mean maybe not a HoFer, but he was quite good.

its annoying

Yeah its just as believable as the Tardinals or loins becoming the next dynasty team. But seriously it was already retarded enough for BDN to have happened despite his well earn win.

Kys faggot

Do you have information that will lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton?

The Houston Texans with an outright decent performance against the valiant Detroit Lions 30-23. If you had any doubts the Texans are going 9-7 this year, use this time to reevaluate your opinion. Nobody can stop the Texans winning 9 games this year. Prepare your anii.

Your parents love you and want you to be happy and have a fulfilling life while continuing their bloodline rather than be a mentally ill miserable childless homosexual that ends the bloodline.

>continuing their bloodline
That's retarded

yo lets go packers kings of the afc west

Correct. Don't do it. For us.

Normal people don't give a shit about blood lines. That's some we wuz kangz bullshit.

Guess you have no pride in who you are, who your parents are, and who your ancestors are. Maybe it's best you feel that way, then.

Just as good if not better than the Rasm assblasting the NFL with a revived Blake Bortles with his backup pal in Mark Sanchez... oops did I speak too soon about that bit right there?

took a nap for some reason

Bosa, Williams, White, and Bush look like Superstars so far.

what is your obsession with bortles he's like the most insignificant QB ever

based

Were your ancestors kangz?

Appreciate the update.

I may have taken too big of a bite of the razor cake.

Bills look fucking great this year.

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thanks

no problem

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Yeah I;m thinking We Might See Both the Bills and The Jets in the ’Yoffs

Nah. Jets have a shot at the playoffs. Bills don't. Jets ceiling is 10 or maybe even 11 wins depending on how much Darnold has improved. Bills ceiling is probably 7 wins. Either way, they'll be decent teams. If the Dolphins weren't going to be trash, the AFCE might actually be kinda interesting this year.

>that defense
>10 wins
yikes

So, now it’s fairly clear Jarrett Stidham is at the very least better than Drew Lock and Dwayne Haskins, why did so many teams sleep on him in the draft? He looks so much more pro-ready than most of the other rookies I’ve seen this season, with much less “rookie blunders” than others (Daniel Jones fumbles/dropping the ball). He’s literally Jimmy G 2.0.

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it's called a "ceiling" for a reason dumbass

>Introducing the The Three Mediocres!
>Carson Wentz=Curly
>Rhys Hoskins=Larry
>Bryce Harper=Moe
>Nick Foles=Shemp
>Nate Sudfield=Joe
>Cody Kessler/Clayton Thorson/Josh McCown=Curly Joe

youtube.com/watch?v=s5a45f1uy80

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ceiling implies they are remotely capable of it retard

>Wentz gets 6 rings
>His backups are the SBMVP for all of them
How would Yea Forums feel about this?

He won't, so why pretend?

in what way are the Jets better than the Bills? I can understand thinking both will be bad, but how are the Bills worse than the Jets in any way? Reminder that LeVeon Bell was the systembabby to end all systembabbies.

1. Bucks
2. Sixers
3. Pacers
4. Celtics
5. Raptors
6. Nets
7. Heat
8. Magic

1. Clippers
2. Jazz
3. Nuggets
4. Lakers
5. Warriors
6. Rockets
7. Trail Blazers
8. Spurs

>6. Bills

>cowsois

This has urinatingtree written all over it.

He had a bad year last year under the most overrated and overpaid head coach in college football. I’m not at surprised he was being held back by Gus being literally retarded.

Auburn fan btw

You're spending too much time listening to Cowherd and ESPN. The whole Rodgers/LaFleur drama was fake news.

>Before Thursday’s joint practice, Brady awarded Vrabel a small trophy with the score of the Titans’ 34-10 victory over the Patriots last November. The meaning, of course, was that it proved meaningless.

>The Titans missed the postseason, and the Patriots won the Super Bowl.

Keked and rekt

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>6. Toxins
kek

Dak is a backup quarterback

1. Bucks
2. Pacers
3. Celtics
4. Raptors
5. Nets
6. Heat
7. Magic
8. Pistons

1. Clippers
2. Jazz
3. Nuggets
4. Lakers
5. Warriors
6. Rockets
7. Trail Blazers
8. Spurs
Fixed that for you

damn shame buddy, hang in there. Even if they do not accept you, you have someone that does

I just got the reference because like Curly, Wentz always dies in every season and gets replaced by another stooge(QB) aka the backups mentioned here. I kek'd

>rasm

Yes, I know it'll just be 5 rings with 4 MVPs to his name, but it's fun to speculate

How pathetic is your life that you have to tell such blatant lies to yourself?

does he lurk here and make threads on reddit? that's what I've gathered from the humor in his videos

>QB looks good in the Pats system.

This is gonna be Jimmy G all over again.

How the fuck was it Vrabel's fault that he's stuck with Mariota?

Why do I get the sense that he's secretly seething about his legacy of getting outplayed by the most mediocre QBs he faces?

Why does optimism make you so butthurt?

Except this time he actually stays in NE and takes over for Brady in 1-2 years

It's not optimism, it's flat out delusion. Seek help.

You can't say that until it's proven wrong :)

I got Brady playing 4-5 more seasons so Stidham will be traded before then.

Who fucking knows. But regardless the post is pretty spot in aside from the players mentioned here are from 2 different sports. And all three are overrated overpaid trash. (Yes even Rhys will be paid a fuck ton no doubt)

Worst part is the Titans are a .600 team so there’s really no way they get a top tier QB draft pick next year unless they make some huge trades

>seek help for hoping your favorite player does well

>hasn't finished more than a single season
>"5 rings and 4 MVPs"
Mental illness is what you have.

Cringe boomer post

Nah. Brady is close enough to retiring(1-2 years realistically, 3 if the stars align) that Stidham will be Brady's successor with how he's shaping up. Jimmy G just showed up too early.

Something tells me you're a fan of a team where you can't even pretend good things will happen

bortles is based and bortlespilled

He looks better than ever and wants to play to 45+, at this point you'd be silly to back against him.

>Call the play for us live before it happens during the regular season.
What kind of ask was that?

>dolphins
>5-11

yea top kek m8, we'll get at least 6 wins

>I got Brady playing 4-5 more seasons
Why so? He's been adamant for years now that he's stopping at 45 no matter what, possibly sooner. That gives him a 3 year maximum.

I'm a fan of a team that has a QB that already did what yours will never do.

Lose a Super Bowl to Nick Foles?

>People are still sleeping on the cumback season

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Does he say he's stopping at 45? Could easily play beyond that.

And if he plays the 45 yr old season and retires at the end thats 4 more seasons

How hilarious would it be if Tom Brady pulled a George Blanda and converted to placekicker so he could play until he's nearly 50?

>Rams

PFF Preseason Passing grades for rookies:

- Murray: 61.3

- Jones: 77.0

- Haskins: 38.7

- Lock: 46.9

- Grier: 25.8

- Stidham: 80.1

Patriots win again

still wonder if the pats could end up with trevor Lawrence

Not a chance, and that’s not the type of QB the patriots like. They like the middle round guys (Jimmy G, Brady, Brissett, now Stidham) because they don’t have an ego and know they aren’t perfect.

Look at Stidham after just a few months working with Brady, he’s probably better than some NFL starters.

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The absolute city of Grier

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Nobody should be surprised about this. Stidham looked elite in his junior year, and only fell in draft stock because Auburn is ran by retards who only run meme trick plays for no apparent reason

Wow they got a good backup stop the damn press.

Most of the other rookies are under a similar plan of “not ready to start yet” too. Haskins, Lock, Jones, and Grier (lol) are all supposed to sit on the bench for at least a year.

1. Tom Brady
2. Russell Wilson
3. Aaron Rodgers
4. Drew Brees
5. Matt Ryan
6. Patrick Mahomes
7. Andrew Luck
8. Cam Newton
9. Philip Rivers
10. Matthew Stafford
11. Ben Roethlisberger
12. DeShaun Watson
13. Nick Foles
14. Baker Mayfield
15. Kirk Cousins
16. Carson Wentz
17. Jared Goff
18. Derek Carr
19. Eli Manning
20. Joe Flacco
21. Andy Dalton
22. Marcus Mariota
23. Dak Prescott
24. Mitch Trubisky
25. Jimmy Garoppolo
26. Ryan Fitzpatrick
27. Josh Allen
28. Jameis Winston
29. Dwayne Haskins
30. Sam Darnold
31. Lamar Jackson
32. Kyler Murray

based as hell

>5. Matt Ryan
Bad bait

>working with Brady
Yeah, like Brady worked with Jimmy G?

Think they'll trade him? Get a good player/draft pick?

>Brady at 1 after not even throwing 30 td's.
>Wilson at 2 after not even throwing 4000 yards.
>Mahomes at 6 after going 50/5000.

Name a single person below him who is better. Mahomes is the only one you could make a case for, but he's only played in 19 NFL games.

Different situation, Jimmy entered too early. Now is pretty well known Brady has 2-3 seasons left, at which point Stidham will have 2-3 years under Brady to learn.

Probably not, unless Stidham shows serious regression. He’s already proved he can easily play with the 1st round picks of this year.

>he's a fantasy football "guy"

To give this some context, this is the equivalent of Stidham being Deshaun Watson by their passer grading system and would actually make Stidham a top 12 quarterback in the league among active starters if those stats remained consistent.

Bears fan here, just happy to be here! Have a good day

What will stop Brady form seeing Stidham as a threat to his last 2-3 years as a starter just like he did with Garoppolo?

Be warned I have rock bottom opinion of Matt "28-3" Ryan compared to the mainstream, that said

Mahomes
Luck
Rivers
Roethlisberger
Watson
Foles (Be honest, who would you pick to win a single important game)
Wentz (Him below Foles shows you value the SB MVP. Matt deserves LVP award for LI)
Goff (AT least he;s not a domebabby)

To put this in even funnier terms, what this boils down to is the fact that Tom Brady's backup is Carson Wentz. Wentz actually has a slightly lower passing grade than Stidham.

Well why do you explain Nahomes's all time great season being 6, and a relative down year for Brady being 1.

>2 games against mostly backups running base defenses
Getting way tf ahead of yourself.

back at you

I was about to comment on how the hell is Marqise Lee still in the league and still a Jag but realized I got him mixed up
Who was the alligator armed TE on the Jags a few years back, I think from UCLA

Nothing. They'll simply trade Stidham in a couple of years and draft someone else while Brady keeps playing.

Lisa Ann big fat ass.

I'm not getting ahead of myself at all. You'd have a point if we were using traditional stats, but these are purely passer accuracy stats.

>ignoring Finley

>I know we're going to be terrible
>I, as a homer, say we'll be one win better than your realistic estimate

I suggest you consider that, friendo.

>Mahomes
1 year isn't enough
>Luck
Might buy it if he wasn't so injury prone
>Rivers
Ryan is just a younger version of Rivers
>Roethlisberger
elderly
>Watson
same as Mahomes, body of work too small
>Foles
High ceiling, super inconsistent
>Wentz
Hasn't shown anything other than being the latest fresh-legged dual threat flash in the pan
>Goff
Mediocre game manager

If Grier turns into the second coming of Ryan Nassib while Chauncey Gardner-Johnson balls out on the Saints I'm going to be so motherfucking pissed.

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Because he knows his career is coming to an end and he has an endgoal in sight. Jimmy G showed up in 2014, my dude. When Brady had, at minimum, 7-8 years left in the league. Way, way too early. Stidham is showing up when he's 2-3 years from done. There's no threat.

>goof over ryan

I'll repeat, since you don't seem to comprehend
>2 games
>against mostly backups
>playing base defenses

bad bait

The Chiefs are legit dangerous this year

>High ceiling, super inconsistent
Literally the same as Matt Ryan except clutch and not a choker
I'll take guys like Wentz and Watson who flash talent over Ryan who I know doesn't have any

It's a tough call, but I really think Matty slice sucks. At least with Goff I can win a game outdoors. Goff's offenses also aren't quite as stacked talent wise unlike Matt who has Julio and can't do shit with him

Jumping up to 6th based off 19 NFL starts is astronomical.

I'll repeat, since you are an illiterate moron
These stats are purely passer accuracy based. Meaning it doesn't matter if the defense perfectly defends the ball or not. It doesn't matter if the receiver catches it or not or if it's intercepted or not. They are only looking at the accuracy of Stidham's passes. What you're citing literally doesn't fucking matter.

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I mean when you think about the options they have, well you couldn't be more right. 18-1 probably and im telling you the one loss wont be in the owl. any reid will show he CAN coach deep in the playoffs

>Foles game manages a highly talented team to the owl
>clutch
>Ryan carries a mediocre team to the owl
>choker

>Ryan doesn't have any talent
Well trolled, you got me but this is your final reply.

What makes you think their D won't be ass again?

chiefs brought in some absolute DOGS

look out

>>Ryan carries a mediocre team to the owl
He led them OUT of game wining field goal range after Julio made an inhuman catch to put them into it. I've never seen any other QB manage to do this the way he did

>>Foles game manages a highly talented team to the owl
That defense wasn't giving Brady nearly the trouble Atlanta's was. FOles had to match Brady throw for throw from start to finish. Matt had do nothing except not manage to fuck up but instead he takes fumbles and sakes his team couldn't afford.

Without luck:
Texans 9-7 (4-2)
Titans 9-7 (3-3)
Jags 8-8
Colts 4-12

With Luck:
Colts 10-6
Texans 7-9
Titans 7-9
Jags 7-9

>Goff's offenses also aren't quite as stacked talent wise
>Rams: Gurley, Anderson, several good WRs, absolutely elite OL
>Falcons: Julio, a bunch of literally whos, and a chronically bad OL

Your relationship status

Without luck: single

With luck: still single, incel

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If I had Andrew Luck I wouldn’t be single

I take it you factored in Chad Kelly not taking them to 8-8 because he got cut in week 3 for doing Chad Kelly things?

>same federal judge that ruled against the NFL in deflategate denied jeffrey epstein bail before his suicide

In general? Cowboys

At present? Cowboys, Raiders and Chiefs

*dabs on failcoons*

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>Tom Brady is still an incestuous pedophile
the plot thickens

Apologize.

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Dems boys dabbin on the Rams

Lmao. You traded Dee Ford for an even dumber version of him. And brought in a wounded honey badger already nursing a busted shoulder.

You got nothing.

>y-you got nothing!!
>*throws 65 tds*
dont care, bitch

based

Browns and don't even start

>frank clark is a dumber version of Dee ford
what the fuck is this take

>b-but our dogs on defense make us elite on that side of the b-ball, right?
You NEED to put up 40 points a game just to stay ahead of any half decent offense. Better hope you don't have to rely on big arm Mahomes to throw another late game interception, again.

>He doesn't know
I'll be surprised if he lasts 2 years in Kansas shitty with out choking a bitch out.

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>expecting the Queefs to not choke in the playoffs

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Where does Aaron Donald rank among all time DTs?

>Oy vey! How dare you disagree with me, that's ASSAULT!
>google her
>"Natalie Weiner, SB Nation writer, brags about berating man in MAGA hat"
It's all so tiresome.

>does domestic violence
>worse person than dee ford
>so he must he a worse player
the stats for them are similar at the end of the day, frank clark doesn't line up incorrectly on a key play that would have won you the super bowl. Dee Ford does

I’ve been on the hype train ever since he got picked. It’s unbelievable he fell down to the 4th round. He’s easily better than low tier starters already in the passing game (Lamar I’m looking at you), and with a year or two behind Brady he’s going to be great.

Stidham and Damien Harris were easily some of the best value picks in the entire draft and it’s starting to show why.

>not realizing they were one play away from superb owl

it will be a late playoff choke if any

The best ability is availability. The man you "upgraded" from has a DV history, and intimidates women online for reporting about that DV, and requires his team to step in and come correct before he looks even more stupid is it really an upgrade?

Top 3.

if any of that dents his play sure, but if not then no. He is, at least, an adequate replacement

>8 posts too early
Wow the last OP was a real big fag am I right guys?

So put your boy in check talkin about how chiefs brought in some dogs. You did nothing but lateral moves.

Clark is a lot bigger and more consistent than Ford besides your comparing a de to an olb

In terms of accomplishments, he's borderline top 10. In terms of skill, he's one of the 3 best I've seen in my 30 years watching pro football, other 2 being Cortez Kennedy and Albert Haynesworth.

oh you're gonna find out about those dogs

>scam top ten
>watson top fifteen
ahahahahahah no

dem dogs..... fierce

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Unironically put Jarrett Stidham above Lamar.

based, that's a chief post if ive ever seen one

Clark is 20lbs heavier with a 4.8 40 time to Fords 4.6.

Ima ask again: Was Aaron Donald + Ndamukong Suh the greatest DT duo of all time?

Yes

Who should be ahead of them? I could use a laugh.

Watson was good last year**
*but he had an easy schedule
*but he had a terrible O-Line
The asterisks cancel themselves out, so yeah he’s good

Even if Honey Badger plays like a first-team All-Pro player, the rest of that secondary is swiss cheese

Fuck no. Bryant Young and Dana Stubblefield were one of the most dominant DT duos.

Juan Thornhill is dangerous in coverage

Literally fucking who

Just a couple of guys Deion Sanders said was the best team he played on in 94.

scam isn't better than rivers or ben, and watson isnt better than wentz or memefeild. theres where to move them so your list isn't completely retarded

>Can't throw anything except screens and dumpoffs anymore
>Almost all his passing yards are YAC now

Balding Fraud

>scam isn't better than rivers
Splitting hairs.
>ben
Dude is washed up af.

>watson isnt better than wentz
Wentz has shown exactly nothing in 3 years.
>or memefeild
Just stop.

>Can't throw anything except screens and dumpoffs anymore
>still the best intermediate passer in the league
>top receiver doesn't run screens or dumpoffs
>YAC is bad

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Why does Yea Forums think so highly of this guy? I’ve never actually seen him do anything

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New frens welcome: discord.gg/mZGJ8wK

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Wow, Brees can throw a million passes of less than five yards behind the best offensive line in the league. Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara are future Hall of Famers and definitely aren't volume/scheme/O-Linebabbies. I'm in such awe.

>le run the ball and get hurt man is better than big ben
what fucking world do you live on jesus christ, if you think he comes close to a declining ben you know nothing
Watson has the best receiver in the league that bailed him out multiple times and has never gotten up the level of play shown by wentz when he was going to win mvp and never will come close to a year like that.
its gonna be really funny when baker gets in the wildcard and wins a playoff game while the toxins are home

based

cringe

watch some more colts games, he is a good QB

and as a chiefs fan I know, I watched him make one of the most incredible comebacks in any playoff game, let alone football game, in 2014

the problem is, and say it with me
>muh injuries
the dude cant stay healthy for shit which is a damn shame. When luck is popping off he pops

>another fantasy football guru
Suck a tailpipe, sincerely.

this, and I think with time Kendall Fuller could became a breakout star in the secondary

>le run the ball and get hurt man is better than big ben
At this point, he definitely is. He won't be able to keep it up much longer but he's still one of the better RBs in the league as a QB.

Why have people constructed this narrative that Cam Newton is a "wide receiver killer" when he's never had a decent receiving corps until now?

>Armanti Edwards
Meme gadget player, being God at App State didn't make him a good pro
>Brandon LaFell
meh
>Ted Ginn
Elite speed but brick hands. Must have dropped at least 30+ touchdown dragons from Cam
>Domenik Hixon
Made one play his entire career and that was it
>Brenton Bersin
Nepotism hire
>Jerricho Cotchery
Old as shit by the time he arrived in Carolina. Still one of the best receivers Cam has had even though he was past his prime
>Kelvin Benjamin
Good enough as a rookie, but fat and lazy and had a rotten attitude. Laziness caused Cam to suffer career-altering injury
>Devin Funchess
Second coming of LaFell. Body catcher, never consistent. Soft for a big receiver.
>Corey Brown
Extremely low ceiling. Would never have survived in the league had Cam not been the one throwing to him
>Russell Shepard
Good special teamer but not much else.
>Kaelin Clay
Had one good special teams play and that was it

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>sneed
oh fuck right off back to rejjit with the rest of the trannies, reported

oh fersure, these reddit boys just have no idea

yikes

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bench mahomes, its Henne time

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Not even close, Suh was a fucking bum last year.

>you will never have sex with this cutie

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Not even close

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why even live? (other than to watch the Vikings implode horribly)

Greg Olsen and Steve Smith are real shit receivers. How many firstdowns did cam miss because he overthrows 8 feet tall receivers?

rent free

Wentz just a glorified version of Cousins

Prove it.

she lives in Hong Kong amerifag

In general? The Jags
Lately? The Jets

kek

So you're saying there's a chance.

>NFL: NIGGERS FOR LIFE

what did he mean by this

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He unironically has better numbers than pa'trick mutthomed bin hadid

Braindead

*starts*

Danny bones Jones about to turn Russell Shepherd into a steal. Nice job ciring Gettleman because you were adament about over-paying role-players. Imagine 2018 with Josh Norman, 16 million dollars spent to miss the playoffs.

It's on the wall in Goodell's office.

Wade Phillips singlehandedly cause the Music City Miracle to happen.

Forward pass

>It's like someone coming in my face and disrespecting me, I look at that and take it, I feed off of that it makes me hungry

What did he mean by this?

youtu.be/iET3XavLfLM?t=28

why is he really the only DC to give brady problems?

It's always gunny when you're not sure if someone os on massive amounts of narcotics or just a nofmal bkack man with an 80 iq that maybe drank a red bull

Rex Ryan

Also wade has always had superior stacked units against Brady. Mile high is the most unfair home filed advantage in the league as well. The Broncos get slaughtered in Gillette every time

okay but it's not though, the receiver leans back to grab it it's obvious. it's right on the line though.

>still pushing this shit
didn't you hear the news? Eagles signed Josh McCown.

I don't think it'll be fair this season lads. Patriots from looking like they'll have a shitty receiving core have went to have a good one. Gordon, Edelman, Meyers, see how Harry develops.
Chase Winovich, the better Michigan pass rusher was under drafted because he was white even with great athletic testing.
Damien Harris is a standard above average Alabama RB added to a decent stable of running backs.
Most of the Pats 2018 draft picks were injured last year and are coming back, they might not all be good but Bentley looked good last year for being a 5th rounder.
Tight End and maybe safety are concerns but Bill is too good and scheme's shit up to where he can help out the safeties. 7 rings for Brady is very realistic.

Random question: how come they don't have DUI checkpoints at the exit of the parking lots at NFL stadiums? I keep seeing videos of people online absolutely hammered at games at figure a good amount of them try to drive home regardless. Plus a lot of stadiums and their park lots are situated so there's literally one or two exits so it should be easy

>7 rings
You're welcome for shitting on the Steelers and Cowboys with this monumental achievement.

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>Chase Winovich, the better Michigan pass rusher was under drafted because he was white even with great athletic testing.
He has small hands, short arms, and was a decent NFL caliber athlete. But there's a reason he wasn't as good as Bush and Gary.
>Damien Harris is a standard above average Alabama RB added to a decent stable of running backs.
Just another back for Bill to grind down then throw away and draft another.
The receiving group outside of Edelman has a bunch of untested and/or question marks, yes, even Gordon. N'keal Harry was the best NFL ready receiver in the draft being coached up by Herm Edwards at ASU.

Safety is the biggest depricated position in the league now that they can't hit receivers and are glorified linebackers. They drafted pretty good, but let's not act like they were gifted silver platters.

a huge sinking feeling hits my stomach whenever I think about Brady having 7 rings

shit is scary

>bad defense = more passes less running

nobody attempts 25 3 pointers in a basketball game they are up by 30 in and nobody throws 40 passes per game if their defense hold their opponent to 14 points

brees led the league in yards almost every year from 08-16 because the saints had garbage defense

everyone knew manning and brady were better than him but he threw more and deeper out of necessity. Stop pretending like putting up stats in losses is better than winning

wow, this retard is really going to run off the best RB in the league

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>best RB in the league
That's not Lamar Jackson.

LMFAO le random jokerino!

Seething

>6. Bills

>steve smith has the second best season of his career after leaving le dab man for joe fucking flacco

really activates my almonds

>his QB doesn't have a limited edition funko pop

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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did someone poop on this

Chiefs are just shit.

>ravens can't draft a WR if their life depended on it
>literally have a trail of bust first and second round WR's
>poach a veteran WR
>he does well since he immediately becomes WR1

no shit sherlock

>SEETHING because no one gives a shit about your QB

kek

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>my qb wins 3 SBs in 4 years
>yours has poop hair

oh boy im seething

what the fuck does this even mean?

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>it's an user knows he can't win so he pretends to be a pats fan episode

what a basic bitch

the only one that cant win is Mahomo in foxbourogh

>Mutthomes will be 0-3 against The Big Brady Dick this year
>Also, no playoffs, Queefs! hahahahahahahahaha

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>his parents don't have season tickets to his team

explain yourselves

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I don't want to go watch the Oilers.

Not football nor sports related.

meanwhile the bears have no wait because they have been shit since the 80's

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But this is OUR year. We would have wont he owl last year if he had a competent kicker

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>implying they have a competent kicker right now

Bills and I say that as a fan. We're convinced we're going 11-5 when

>Allen still can't accurately throw
>his post-injury numbers say more about the teams he was facing than his own skill
>Morse is gonna get concussed again after like 2 games
>Shady's out of juice
>we still don't have a true WR1
>our "elite" defense was 18th in points given up per game last season

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>implying we don't

streamable.com/0mimr

OH NO NO NO

And then he breaks his back like a literal old man in this next upcoming pre season game. Time be ticking til Kaepernick is on your team Turkroach.

the fuck happened? he didn't get tripped. he didn't get under him. he like tapped him on the shoulder and went tumbling

Zeke has already lost a step from his rookie season. He doesn't have that burner speed anymore.

probably fucked up his stance, realized it, went to reposition, but got hit in the middle of it when he only had one foot planted and was off balance

Saffold has ptsd from the superbowl

RIP Watson

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Titans finna win the division.

only is mariota gets injured early on and tannehill starts. i think tannehill is the (slightly) better QB and will do well with a halfway decent team around him like the tits unlike the fins

>moving goalpost
fuck kaep and fuck you mutt

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>Chiefs losing to the fucking Steelers
>Iggles losing Qbs left and right
>Rams hot trash as expected
>pats backups barely scraping a win against the Tits lel
Can't wait to watch Kirk win the owl.

Yet you root for one of the most mutt team in the NFL. Also what's your beef with Kaep aside the stuff he did off the field?

>Chiefs losing to the fucking Steelers
preseason you dunce
>Iggles losing Qbs left and right
better hope wentz stays healthy
>Rams hot trash as expected
preseason you dunce
>pats backups barely scraping a win against the Tits lel
preseason you dunce
>Can't wait to watch Kirk win the owl
now you're just memeing

>Also what's your beef with Kaep aside the stuff he did off the field?
The Turk is acting like Kaep offends him because he wants to be American. Typical third worlder.

i have no problem with Kaep cuz i dont care about American politics. I have a problem with (You) acting like Eagles will sign Kaep for 50 million dollars. It's not gonna happen. dont reply to me ever again

>50 mil
It'd definitely only be around 20.

But they will sign him to a 50 million because he will be come a starter by week 6, and will be considered a bargain with a former Super Bowl contender as backup turn starter. Regardless Kaep will come, and Wentz will crack his glass bones again.

delusional little faggots

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Watson: *giggles* I’m in danger

Anything said bad about Wentz, and hearing Kaep on the Iggles triggers the Turkey out the Turk roach.

There is nothing delusional about thinking Wentz will get injured again.

suck my dick

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>Once went by the name *FolesBenis*
>suck my dick
You got some obsession with dicks dont ya roach? I mean the city you root for is known for brotherly love, but dang that's some obsession right there.

>sbnation.
of course.

>his team hasn't drafted their franchise QB's successor yet

is anyone else even trying?

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what the fuck is this guy's problem?

reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/crxxpw/obj_playing_his_own_drum_line/

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>making benis jokes makes you obsessed with dicks

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where my vikes bros at?

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I can't wait for the viqueens to be knocked out of playoff contention but queenfags will just immediately start shitposting that next year is their year

seethe harder

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tick tock

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out of how many?

>replies by still mentioning dicks by punning benis with Foles because BDN, thus complete the full circle of your obsession and proving my point

Out of 70 so a 26% miss rate.I think the league average is ~85%

85% success rate I mean

Good thing we brought in a kicker that has trained under the best system for kickers in the league

>implying you didn't get fleeced

if that dude was so good, the ravens would have kept him since he's 5 years younger and would be making the UFDA minimum and instead traded tucker

>keeping an UDFA when you have the best kicker in NFL history
Are you actually brain dead? He can be good without being better than their starter

The Chiefs went 12-4 but okay.

Probably coping somewhere

If its so easy to throw a ton of yards and TD's when your D is bad, how come most quarterbacks struggle then? Every year they're are a dozen garbage ass defenses, why are hardly anyone putting up Brees's numbers then?

This. Every team with a shit D needs great QB play, but it takes a great QB to make it happen. If you have a quarterback who's good at passing, of course you're going to have a pass-heavy offense. Why have a future HOF QB and not use him?

remember the last time you traded for a kicker?

So are you suggesting we stop using kickers?

yes, always go for it on 4th. works just fine in madden

No guts no glory, user.

>Wow the last OP was a real big fag am I right guys?
yes

>Forward pass
Nigga, the RCM has been reviewed to hell and back. As close as it was, it was a lateral. Literally like an 89 degree pass. It was valid.

>Why have a future HOF QB and not use him?
Ask the Xecucks

>pats backups barely scraping a win against the Tits lel
This worries me. I previously thought the Titans might win the South this year, but using starters in a preseason game and still losing to backups is not a great sign.

>thought the titans might win the south
What on earth made you think this? A brain injury?

The Tits will win the AFCS.

Not a Tits fan, but I could see it. Toxins have a shit line still and defense is ass. Luck is injured, and the Jags are the Jags.

Titans have got to be one of the most boring teams in the league. Holy shit they're always so boring to watch.

The shekawks over use wilsonc remember that time he threw on the goal line?

Based Stidham. Isn't it funny how he fell so far in the draft when he was such a good quarter back?
>b-b-but itz presaeson
Football is football, and accuracy, good decision making, and arm strength don't change come the regular season

Wilson wasnt a HOF back then though

If you want to be pedantic then he isn't now either.

So is Madden 20 as bad as all the non journos are leading me to believe? I keep trying to get into Madden again (I used to play it for 10 hours a day as a kid) but cant

>crusty old fuck TE finally returns
yeah i'm thinking 7-9

Objectively he is. His first seven seasons were similar to that of Marino's and Farve's. Obviously he isn't a first round lock but if he retired today he would eventually make it in, even if it took 20+ years

Yeah, but he's not in it now.

McCarthy is warming up the buffet at Golden Corral

Madden20 is full of bugs, AI is still retarded, most things are scripted to happen, etc. Nothing new.

youtu.be/F9-Um7PfH-w

Patriots WR Phillip Dorsett is being offered in trades

I wasnt implying he is garbage I'm implying that historic numbers are usually a result of unusual circumstances not the greatest talent ever

matt shaub, elvis grbac and eli manning have all had 500 yard passing games

am I supposed to think they are generational talents because the put up numbers few else did?

his passing stats last season were an unusual statistical outlier but it didn't lead to a championship or even a 14 wins season, something plenty of other QBs have done

dont be surprised next year when a few of his 5 yard slants hill took to the house dont happen and he has 32 TDs next year

I can't deny that I guess

Its crazy how the entire league missed Stidham and Meyers. It just goes to show how incompetent the rest of the league is.

the fumbling is ridiculous and the zone defense is terrible, overrcorrected from when it was OP last year (LBs with their backs turned would jump and make ridiculous ints over the middle ever time)

*jukes around you*

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Makes sense. They have way too many WRs and there are receivers that are way better than Dorsett that they'll want to keep.

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Is Reddit down for anyone else or is it just me?

Maybe I will just emulate 2k5. If I am lucky there is a roster mod

2019 draft class was allllllllllll trash...except for that OLB Jacksonville got who probably wont even play this year. and I guess Daniel Jones will be "serviceable" in NY once Eli gets out of the way.

the rest are dumpster juice

>His first seven seasons were similar to that of Marino's and Farve's
lolwat. Non-seahawks fans never considered wilson a top 10 QB until 2016.

its just satan. quit being such a bitch and let him in.

If he played the final game of this season he would have had 14 wins.

And he just had 32 TD's...

Madden 19 made $800 million dollars and they copy paste like 90% of the game. So how the fuck is Madden so lacking in features and full of bugs? They clearly have the money to throw at the game to make it good.

mostly to cope with Indy being dead in the water without their albino troglodyte

Source on that?

Why would you spend money making them game good when you can slap in a few "new" features (this year its the PRO BOWL) for cheap and make 800mil on Gatcha Madden Mode

have you considered killing your parents and then turning the gun on yourself? that should resolve any confusion.

You clearly have no idea how software development works.

There is no denying that the AFC East is the NFL’s division II

Cowboys and raiders easily. I see a lot of people saying chiefs but they arent relevant enough among braindead normies to reach the cowboy/raiders levels of delusion

>I've never watched a single game of football.
The post.

>Mariota has reportedly done little to assert himself in camp this summer and is quickly losing ground to former Dolphins starter Ryan Tannehill

What the fuck happened? Mariota and Winston were seen as great prospects in the run up to the 2015 draft. The 2016 draft saw Wentz and Goff as the best QB's that year but pretty much all the scouts and analysts thought they were a big step down from Winston and Mariota. Wentz and Goff made it to the Super Bowl (well close enough for Wentz) and Winston and Mariota are on the verge of being kicked to the curb

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t. EA shill

Madden still uses code in their games from 15 fucking years ago

>sCam Newton in the top 25.

Elite level trolling.

Of course they do. Your bank uses code from 50 years ago

Name the 25 you have above him so I can clown your silly ass.

Compare their stats if you don't believe me. Those three are the only qbs to throw for 150+ tds in their first six seasons.

seethe at bortles and suffer the consequences

ex madden dev (rex?) said in an interview that he tried implementing more time to fixing issues and adding content but ea said that working on gameplay was not marketable

What's he going to do, overthrow me?

colt mccoy is better than cam, retard

have you even seen Watson play the last two years? Oh, no...you haven't...you're just an opinionated retard on the internet.

>can't even beat out Cumskins
lel

all i need to see is his playoff performance.... played like shit... no win.... get outta here

its considerably less impressive for wilson when hes in the "statpad" chapter of his career playing from behind in games in a pass happy era. When he was game managing for the LOB he could barely crack 200 yards a game.

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True or false, Yea Forums: wins are a QB stat

the consequences are...? having a qb who can throw over 5 yards without getting picked? or a qb who understands pocket pressure and when to actually run?

Yeah he was a game manager for his first three seasons or so, that doesn't change the fact that he's been top 5 talent for the past four years.

laugh while you still can, thats all ill say

>o-line made of cardboard
>playing with broken ribs
>lost his two biggest receiving threats
all you need to see is a new sport.... because you're too fucking stupid to know what you're watching when it comes to football. maybe curling is more your speed?

>thinks Bortles will start again in the NFL
>thinks Bortles will be good if he does
>Can't understand why people are laughing

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yeah just like i thought... a bunch of excuses... go back to where you came from and let the big boys talk football...

RIP, as a Longhorns fan I thought he could be a GOAT

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