USA vs Spain, preparation game for the basketball World CUp

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Excuse my ignorance but why don't the US team just fields LeBron, Curry, Durant, Leonard, and all their stars for their NT?

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de'aaron fox did go

damn, what happened to rubio lol

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they certainly would like, but the players don't give a fuck

there's nothing to gain for them: the title in itself hold absolutely no value to them, they risk injury, the little money they'll get for that is pocket money for them, if they win they won't get any congratulation as it's something that is expected, and if they loose they'll get shat on

Many of them are hurt, in contract years, etc. Also once a few big players drop, many others follow.

USA has had it's best players for last 14 years though, maybe the world can win one this time. It's been a while.

maybe for the olympics but we usually dont get the best 12

great starting five for spain

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USA never had full teams for the world cups, though. It was often a mix of A team + B team + C team. But this year is really bad.

i like serbia team

They'll def. play in the olympics but for some reason we dont rate the world cup, but the reason they went to last 3 world cups is because the world embarrassed them so bad before that, they had to prove we could still win. The media called them out.

that's tight

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*Gets injured*
*Loses a knee*
*Oh my leg hurts*
M...me too

>rojadirecta
BASED

It's been very very close to A teams. Usually missing 1 or 2 players.

Go, Iberian brothers! Please wreck the negroes aka Americans .

Silent as fuck crowd, do they even give a shit about this?

Just need kemba doing bad and usa shooting threes 30% and someone from serbia/greece/canada can win

youtube.com/watch?v=ZkUTJkkOnzw

Lol it's an exhibition. That's like asking why a soccer friendly is quiet

God we can't score for shit

Spain misses 1000 shots only down 2

navaro and llull not playing?

Navarro is retired m8
He's 39 and his last couple years were pretty bad

Well, sorry, but I disagree. No Lebron, no Wade, no Anthony, no Paul, no George, no Howard, no Bryant, no Griffin, no Aldridge... That's more than 1 or 2 major players here. And in 2010 or 2014, players like Curry or Thompson were not the players they are now.

Can't play corpses, m8

List the rosters for 2006, 2010, 2014

They were all basically the A teams. The only major people missing were either hurt or in contract years

We got too cocky eurobros, ameriCANs will again win by 20 every match with their D team

No one cares about the world cup enough to risk an injury, it's all about the Olympics for them.

It's like playing against someone with an infinite accuracy cheat while all your players have shooting stats below 30

2006: archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/team/p/sid/3507/tid/379/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/index.html

2010: archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/team/p/sid/4728/tid/379/_/2010_FIBA_World_Championship/index.html

2014: archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/team/p/sid/6241/tid/379/_/2014_FIBA_Basketball_World_Cup/index.html

Fake patriotism

Well, of course. Look at the other players from other teams. The only ones Pop would want in his team are Giannis, Jokic, and maybe Gobert, and that's it.

2006:
Carmelo Anthony F 6-8 240 May 29, 1984
Shane Battier F 6-8 220 Sep 9, 1978
Chris Bosh PF 6-11 235 Mar 24, 1984
Elton Brand PF 6-9 254 Mar 11, 1979
Kirk Hinrich G 6-4 190 Jan 2, 1981
Dwight Howard C 6-11 265 Dec 8, 1985
LeBron James F 6-8 250 Dec 30, 1984
Antawn Jamison F 6-9 235 Jun 12, 1976
Joe Johnson SG 6-7 240 Jun 29, 1981
Brad Miller
Chris Paul
Dwyane Wade

2010:

Chauncey Billups G 6-3 210 Sep 25, 1976
Tyson Chandler C 7-1 240 Oct 2, 1982
Stephen Curry G 6-3 190 Mar 14, 1988
Kevin Durant SF 6-9 240 Sep 29, 1988
Rudy Gay SF 6-8 230 Aug 17, 1986
Eric Gordon G 6-4 215 Dec 25, 1988
Danny Granger GF 6-9 222 Apr 20, 1983
Andre Iguodala SF 6-6 215 Jan 28, 1984
Kevin Love FC 6-10 251 Sep 7, 1988
Lamar Odom PF 6-10 230 Nov 6, 1979
Derrick Rose PG 6-3 190 Oct 4, 1988
Russell Westbrook

2014;

DeMarcus Cousins C 6-11 270 Aug 13, 1990
Stephen Curry G 6-3 190 Mar 14, 1988
Anthony Davis PF 6-10 253 Mar 11, 1993
DeMar DeRozan GF 6-7 220 Aug 7, 1989
Andre Drummond C 6-11 279 Aug 10, 1993
Kenneth Faried F 6-8 220 Nov 19, 1989
Rudy Gay SF 6-8 230 Aug 17, 1986
James Harden SG 6-5 220 Aug 26, 1989
Kyrie Irving G 6-3 193 Mar 23, 1992
Mason Plumlee PF 6-11 255 Mar 5, 1990
Derrick Rose PG 6-3 190 Oct 4, 1988
Klay Thompson

These are insanely good teams, and very close to A teams. The majority of players missing were either Injured or in contract years.

spain, france, serbia and greece can beat this usa team

More like J team

We're struggling right now and this is just a friendly

I underestimated USA rebounding advantage. Doubt that holds up vs Serbia or Greece though.

is this being broadcast on any channel?

spain will play much better when it matters

We're gonna lose by at least 25 lol
>spanish basketball went from world class to this

It's an exhibition

Yeah. NBA TV

fuck that shit
too bad silver took down nbastreams

It's a normal cable channel? Same as nfl network

Cause it's not the Olympics.

Damn Laser X sounds pretty dank

Vamos España!

i cant watch or find a box score anywhere, can someone link something here

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You can sense the work of Popovic to be desu, this US team is moving the ball much better than they did under K.

fuck u

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Wont be happy until see how they play defense. Coach K actually had them playing well on perimeter D

USA wont shoot like this every game, actually was hoping they would get humbled a bit tonight so they try hard in games that matter. Dont want them to think they can coast now.

based eurobros. thanks lads

Marc is fucking useless

just like the playoffs

Rubio looks great though, would help if his teammates would attack the boards

Who's the better rebounding team? Greece, France, Serbia?

Best rebounder in this tourney is Giannis, but Jokic is close to him in rebounding, Serbia probably best rebounding team though

At least Spaniards can identify with their team, unlike Americans who claim to be white but their team is all black. what's the point in rooting for them?

>Race in 2019. Acting like you're an elite athlete like Ronaldo

Cope harder

Pretty pathetic that we're gonna destroy everyone with this team of literal whos

>Taking consolation because you think you look like 7 foot athletes

Also stop acting like you're Spain. They can feel proud knowing they were an actual basketball powerhouse. Stop trying to associate Portugal with them.

Most people in the real world aren't obsessed about race, get /pol/ out of your brain

We secretly supply them with Powerade so if they win anything, it's because of us

I'm not a /pol/ tard, but would you really root effusively for your team if all of them were negros?

Of course not

Why did they play this game in a hockey arena?

>Takes comfort that he thinks he looks like elite 7 foot athletes

Why the fuck would I want to be 7feet tall?
The world is not made for people that tall. It'd be uncomfortable

t. 6'1

>misses the point, yet proves it by confirming that he is not in fact an elite basketball athlete

Jesus this is shitty basketball

USA looks like the team that lost to G league in this 2nd half so far. They thought they won already at halftime lol. This isn't NBA.

Our current team is really mediocre, we have a few guys from the golden age who are now old and slow and a bunch of useless literally whos

Very poor display from the US in this 2nd half to be desu. Even though Spain is seriously derping at times too.
>derpnangomez

These turnovers by USA are embarrassing

Did they let the G-League team play?

its practice bros

Wait until they play that Greece pick and roll that dusted Lebron in 2006. They need to tighten up

Marc Gasol is the second most unathletic basketball player I've ever seen in my life

>tfw Fernandez never had a career ending injury

Wow Spain exposing major USA weakness vs full court press

Yeah and it's proving that Spain is nowhere near top 3 teams
I don't think we'll even make it to semifinals

somehow, it was hilarious to see coach K dumbfounded look when he couldn't find a way to counter 2 scrawny guys and 1 obese shitting a 30 points run in 20 minutes on his players

Love black guys desu

These hernangomez brothers can't score fucking anything

I swear all the US players look high af

Tbf he's one of best pick and roll.coaches in the world. The players in 2006 thought they could show up and win. There's a reason coach k went 80-0 after that. They bought into system and were humbled.

>derpnangomez is actually an NBA player

pretty sure he's missing on purpose at this point

Would have never happened to Kobe. Lebron has always been bit of a choker. Kobe would have took that shit personal.

Suns might actually win more than 30 games this season with the Rubio addition

The one thing that's stuck out with Spain and maybe it's on purpose, its they've been playing a ton of iso ball, not the ball movement you're used to seeing with them.

oh my fucking god get hernangomez out of there already

>herpnangomez
>derpnangomez

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Literally gets ball at top of key, runs around pick, shoots ball. So in Spain like. Where's the Spanish ball movement they're so good at

I wanna punch Pop in the face

good insight, thanks

Where does Arriola play

Probably don't have the pieces for it since everyone retired

They have one of best PGs in the tourney

Barcelona

Barcelona, and it's Oriola
He's not usually a good scorer, and he's definitely not a 3p shooter but every now and then he gets lucky

Ah the American announcers have been saying Arriola, no wonder he didnt show up when googled. Has a nice shot.

Can't move the ball with just one guy and a bunch of slow useless fucks

Their main players are really ageing, Navarro and Reyes retired, Rodriguez and Mirotic pulled out, Gasol is injured, Scariolo hates Ibaka... The replacements are just not on part with the missing players.

>Has a nice shot.
He just missed two free throws lol
He's more of a rebounder and defender, I can't recall a single Barcelona match last season where he scored more than 10 points

Yeah chuckled when that happened. Goes 3 for 3 from 3, misses FTs

Seriously has anyone on the US team played basketball before or did they just go into the stands and get random guys?

Who are the top nations right now if spain isn't among them?

Serbia is the favorite to challenge us

Dont be fooled. This is an exhibition. Spain is clearly playing iso and not even running basic zone half the time. They're probably still going to finish top 3. They always look different in exhibitions before the tourney.

Greece has a player you might have heard of, the current NBA MVP

Why did Fiba switch from having the 4-15 numbers?
So kino

people often underestimate how big of a change is the free defense in FIBA rules, completely packing the paint and clogging the driving lanes, and impeding the p&r and isolations the NBA game uses to oblivion
US players often struggle a lot with this particular aspect when playing under internationnal rules

Not counting USA? Serbia, Greece, maybe France too
We're playing Argentina in 10 days, that'll be an interesting match

tatum is garbage nice pass tatum useless

probably for more star system and personnalisation

Marc Gasol out here splashin

There's a difference between that and the pickup basketball they're playing right now

What happened to Lithuania and Argentina, didn't they have strong teams in the past?

Serbia has arguably a more talented starting 5 than us, but it's at totally different strengths, and they lack depth. We have no one that can stop Jokic, but they might not have anyone who can stop Kemba if he plays well.

That's super gay though

Lithuania can probably challenge anyone on any given day but they lack the talent to go all the way
Argentina aged worse than Spain

are we winning bros?

Neither team is clogging lanes in this game though, obviously a sloppy exhibition from both teams

>Serbia has arguably a more talented starting 5 than us
Maybe if you squint really really hard

It's over and you won by 9, which ain't half bad considering you've been up by 18

No since we to put in a 20 point handicap

Jokic was an MVP finalist, and bogdan is a beast too. Our guys are young, and if we beat Serbia itll probably be because of depth or Kemba going nuts

I'm (diaspora) Serb but even I'm not buying this shit. No matter what team USA brings, they are always the favourites.

>Serbia's second best player is a role player for the fucking Kings

Argentina is old as fuck. Lithuania looked actually better this year than in the previous tournaments until now. They have a great chemistry and great guts, hustle and energy.

Serbia has the biggest shot to beat the USA. Then after Serbia, there's a bunch of teams with no definite favourite like Spain, Lithuania, Greece and France, though it's hard to determine which ones are overestimated and underestimated. From what I saw until now this last weeks, I'd say Lithuania may surprise a lot of people.

lol

jokic is a phenom but the rest... plus bogdan is known for underperforming when it matters. last two finals vs the usa were a cool +50 point differential. true, jokic wasn't around and it's a different team but this generation of players has no solution for usa defense when it matters.

greece is the same story, weak team that giannis won't be able to elevate high enough.

spanish niggers are the only team that could eventually beat the usa, they're conniving dirty cunt bitches (their usual game in every sport they show their rat faces in)

Of course were the favorites. We should be, but every USA basketball follower is nervous for a reason. Serbia is damn close to this team, and they have the best player between the two.

Have you seen our team? We have basically Kemba, everyone else is wildly inconsistent, even Mitchell was ass for half the season

Just fuck no
Serbia is still fucking far from this joke of a roster the US has put out
The US just has to get their shit together and give a 75% effort and they'll win by 30
Tonight was like a 20% effort

C'mon that differential was vs the absolute best of USA and no Jokic, stop trying to play coy, were on to you, we know you guys are good

that wasn't the absolute best of usa, that was durant + some pretty good players

i just remember fucking kyle lowry feasted on us

the best game that serbia ever played against the usa was actually 1996 final, that looked like it could be close for 3/4ths of the game.

Maybe you should go watch the 2006 tourney again. Our players are going to struggle bad vs their pick and roll and zone play

Yeah and they're still fucking better than Serbia
Jokic is probably the best player on the combined rosters but the next 12 players are all Americans

>Everyone sleeping on Australia's team
Yeah, I'm thinking they are gonna make top 4.

2006:
Carmelo Anthony F 6-8 240 May 29, 1984
Shane Battier F 6-8 220 Sep 9, 1978
Chris Bosh PF 6-11 235 Mar 24, 1984
Elton Brand PF 6-9 254 Mar 11, 1979
Kirk Hinrich G 6-4 190 Jan 2, 1981
Dwight Howard C 6-11 265 Dec 8, 1985
LeBron James F 6-8 250 Dec 30, 1984
Antawn Jamison F 6-9 235 Jun 12, 1976
Joe Johnson SG 6-7 240 Jun 29, 1981
Brad Miller
Chris Paul
Dwyane Wade

2010:

Chauncey Billups G 6-3 210 Sep 25, 1976
Tyson Chandler C 7-1 240 Oct 2, 1982
Stephen Curry G 6-3 190 Mar 14, 1988
Kevin Durant SF 6-9 240 Sep 29, 1988
Rudy Gay SF 6-8 230 Aug 17, 1986
Eric Gordon G 6-4 215 Dec 25, 1988
Danny Granger GF 6-9 222 Apr 20, 1983
Andre Iguodala SF 6-6 215 Jan 28, 1984
Kevin Love FC 6-10 251 Sep 7, 1988
Lamar Odom PF 6-10 230 Nov 6, 1979
Derrick Rose PG 6-3 190 Oct 4, 1988
Russell Westbrook

2014;

DeMarcus Cousins C 6-11 270 Aug 13, 1990
Stephen Curry G 6-3 190 Mar 14, 1988
Anthony Davis PF 6-10 253 Mar 11, 1993
DeMar DeRozan GF 6-7 220 Aug 7, 1989
Andre Drummond C 6-11 279 Aug 10, 1993
Kenneth Faried F 6-8 220 Nov 19, 1989
Rudy Gay SF 6-8 230 Aug 17, 1986
James Harden SG 6-5 220 Aug 26, 1989
Kyrie Irving G 6-3 193 Mar 23, 1992
Mason Plumlee PF 6-11 255 Mar 5, 1990
Derrick Rose PG 6-3 190 Oct 4, 1988
Klay Thompson

The difference between these teams and this current USA team is actually comical, and these teams had very close games in those tourneys too.

nah, the combined roster of the other teams would stomp this version of usa team easily. which isn't saying much.

They can lose
Not saying they won't
But it's not like they struggled too much in 2010 and 2014

that 2006 team is comical

all their best players are old and mediocre

Combined us and serbia
Not the rest of the world combined

>just lost to Canada by 20 in Perth
Yeah, I'm thinking were back

I havent seen one recent game where Greece has looked weak. Their past tourney results are irrelevant. They look the best team in exhibitions so far.

Giannis had 18 pts in 19 min earlier today

You guys so forfeit from the competition and all your players forced to retire
Despicable

Against Italy who is godawful in basketball

Both 2010 and 2014 had close games, just off memory I remember one of them only beating Brazil by 2.

they remind me of france, just less athletic overall. they would look better against usa than serbia or lithuania or spain but would lose against all those teams.

remember when vince carter dunked over that 7 foot french guy ending his whole career?

A lot to unpack here...

as far as i remember the us team only had close games in the pre-elimination stages at those tournaments. just to reiterate - serbia is a bad matchup for the physical, run and gun basketball usa plays, and the coach has proved ha has no knowledge or the tactics available to put a clamp on that. jokic will not change that.

i remember when he narrowly missed garnett which would have made it the best moment in sports history if he took his head off

Yeah was USA 70 Brazil 68, was in group stage though

That dunk has to be the best he's ever done
Even the dunk contest ones
He dunked on that guy so hard he ended the other guy's career before it even started

Still a bit weird to see in recent times USA only have the 3rd best player in the tourney

What's the best starting 5 if all teams combined in this tourney?

So what's happening in Australia before the world cup in China?

They're gonna play 2 games in a cricket stadium for reasons

They're going to fuck the women

I thought that was implied
They're gonna be black men in a country filled with white women
Of course they're gonna fuck

Why isn't Ben Simmons playing for them

*isn't playing for Australia

there are some retards on there sure, but LBJ/young Melo/Bosh/Joe Johnson/Chris Paul/Dwade is no joke

It was the best of the last 3 teams we've sent, and they got humbled by Greece. Then basically we raw dogged rest of the world and went 80 - 0 after it

Gotta work on those 3 pointers senpai

never forget

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the 2012 gold medal match was the best game of basketball I’ve watched. It was close until we gave our one non-NBA player a few minutes in the 4th quarter then it went to shit

Do the US send their best players? Or some F team to not risk anyone getting injured

>there was someone in the US basketball program who thought having Iverson and Marbury as PGs to lead this team was somehow a good idea

It was still a time when the usa were thinking that just droping names with no preparation or scouting was enough to steamroll the rest. This team's shooting skill was attrocious, and it was collectively disfunctionnal.

Close game against Brazil in 2010. And in 2014 Turkey managed to hold the score for 32 or 33 minutes before collapsing.
People don't realize it, but that 2014 team is the US team that delivered the biggest average lead since the dream team., and this despite the opposition being infinitely better.

Nah, Fred Weis had a pretty good career after that, he won several national and european titles with his teams.
Also, they re-enacted the dunk during the 2017 French ASG

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It's mostly their F team, there were a few big name players but all of them dropped out
They just don't care about the world cup, it's all about the Olympics.