Has one of the best gks in the world

>Greaseman exposed

This is beginning to make sense

Typical Dumbele performance. Put himself in dangerous positions time and time again, only to pass it to nobody or lose the ball.

>i-it's Valv-verde!!1!!!

Only stupid faggots say retarded shit like that.
Truth is, their CBs are old and mediocre, Suarez is incredibly shit and hasn't scored in away matches in like 5 years in CL, Griezmann is past it and a soib0i weakmind, Messi only scores vs las palmas and getafe, and the rest of their team (aside of de jong) is incredibly SHIT

Yet their cringe fanbase love to delude themsleves by saying they have an elite team lmao and that the only reason they're not winning everything is the manager

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Valverde is also a shit manager though

Your post would have more merit if Barca hadn't won the last two leagues.
Then again, I imagine it's hard to formulate a post with merit without possessing a head.

Also, to clarify, Valverde is a good league manager and a shit cup manager.
Today aside, his management style produces teams that can consistently grind out wins even when playing poorly, which is a good way to win leagues. His tactics are fucking shit for individual big games, though.

Barca is clueless without Messi. Valverde cant make a Barca team play Barca football: no patterns, no movement, no pressing, its literally the most static shit I have ever seen. When you have players this good you can win without a Messi, see Ajax, all you need is a fucking idea on how to play. All I see is FEAR, that is not the Cruijfian way. You want to win 5-4. not a scary, terrible, weak, pussy ass 1-0. Valverde is a terrible coach.
>players:
>what is the plan coach?
>JUST PASS IT TO MESSI
Fuck outta here.

They were particularly static off the ball today.

Valverde
He's not a bad coach, in fact he is a good one for a mid table team that tries for an europa league place, but, keep him away from top teams, he's just not compatible with those heights, barcelona should bully it's opponents, not look like it's afraid to try anything out of fear of losing possession, they play like shit and if it weren't for Messi results like today would be the norm, they need a Guardiola more than ever
That being said i'm enjoying this because fuck scatalans, mas que un club my arse, get fucked bitches

>he thinks star-studded teams are meant to succeed
they fail literally 95% of the time. watch more football.

Don't shittalk Messi. There is no player who is week in week out as consistent as he is. And consistently the best in the world at that. GOAT and it's not close.

And that is the fucking problem. He is too dependable. It's like when the team plays like shit, everybody's eyes are on Messi like is he going to score 1, 2 or get a hattrick? And absurdly often he does. How can you not use him as your crutch?

Football is a sport where 22 players face eachother, and the better team on average wins. Except when Messi is on the field, in which case it takes a truly great team like Liverpool to beat them. And still on Messi night they can lose. Barcelona had no right to win in Camp Nou that one night, let alone get 3 goals. But just like Klopp couldn't help but laugh in awe when Messi sank that freekick in, sometimes the injustice simply doesn't matter. All you can do is repeat your superior performance and hope Barcelona crumbles around Messi badly enough. Which they did.

My point is Messi is more likely _underrated_, because the failure of the team in his absence is so consistent and depressing. He's carrying the team. He is the team. Is it even a team then? It took Xavi and Iniesta, or combined strength of prime Suarez and healthy non petulant Neymar to balance it out.

I do not envy Griezmann. He's in terrible situation with Suarez literally falling to pieces. He needs time to settle in. Preferably Messi stays off for a few weeks or a month even if Barca loses all matches. It's much, much better for Messi to adapt to changed team dynamics than having Griezmann try to wrestle the game away from old bad dependency habits with Messi selling his dope night in night out

Messoy is finished

They won the last two leagues against an aging, decadent Atlético and a Real that was slowly starting to set itself on fire.

Them winning the league will be harder this year because the team seems to be at its peak of apathy and because Atlético seems pretty reinvigorated this year. If Halal's management wasn't so shit, Uefalona should be even more worried.

>barcelona should bully it's opponents
Yes, because thats how Barca is supposed to play. Attack is the best defense is the "philosophy", who cares if they score a goal against you on the counter, you just score two. I wonder how Valverde is able to keep his job while raping this team to hell and back. Fuck this Barca.

based post

You can't blame the midget,Suarez has become insanely shit,Coutinho is a gigantic bust and Dumbelel is legit retarted.

Since Neymar left and Suarez is done,he is the only creative force and the whole reason this team even exist.Everything has to run through him because the attack has become so awful and they can't finish if their life depends on it.
Atleast you can excuse Griezmann for being in a new system.

>arthur
>creative
lol

U jealous hermano?

b-b-b-but muh league
fuck you

the only good players on barcelona are ter stegen and messi. ter stegen has kept them in multiple games with his tremendous saves and most of the goals/attacks come through messi. everyone else is mediocre.

>talking shit about Messi, the fourth greatest footballer in history behind Pele, Maradona and Alexi Lalas

>top class forward (Grease, Messi, Suarez)
>Suarez
2015 was 4 years ago, brother

Only smart person ITT

What’s with this brain let tier analysis? Did you even LOOK at the starting lineup Barca put out? It was terrible. Valverde is a fraud.
Beyond that, Barca always struggled when travelling to the Basque Country to play. Something about that place.

>the Brazilian Mark Noble
>good

Terrible how?

It was their first choice front 3 with Messi out, and their first choice defence

The only potential changes were in CM. Where Barca fans have endlessly moaned about rakatic and busquets being shit. So valverde finally makes changes and they look even worse

Everytime Messi misses a game they look hopeless. The only player to ever drag the team on his back other than Messi was neymar, and now they've booted out coutinho and won't even be able to get him back

OH NO NO NO NO

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le val vert

That would be fun. Like RiBer or la JuBe all over again

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>ligue 1 pls shelter us we dont to play in liga 2