Let's make our league revolve around two Irish teams. One will be catholic and really hate Britain...

probably just to spite at potato farmers or toothpastes

Hanging on to centuries old butthurt is what niggers do. Have you asked for reparations?

Probably won't be long. Celtoids of all kinds are mentally ill. Scottish, Irish, Welsh, they ALL blame their problems on England and refuse to take responsibility for how shit and poor their countries are.

N-northern Ireland likes England

All of these people are unironically making an argument for genocide, along with every other minority of a defeated nation. Anglos tried to be more “civilized” than the ancients and instead are punished with centuries of low level rebellion and political shenanigans.

I unironically hope Scotland goes independent. It would be fun to see the SNP try to run a country that isn't economically propped up by the rest of the UK.

The SNP post-independence would end up like UKIP post-EU referendum

>economically propped up by the rest of the UK
You're confusing Scotland for Northern Ireland and Wales, they're the only nation in the union that can actually afford to break free from England.

>Scottish independence

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>London with 7 teams
London has a lot more than 7 teams

People forget it exists and don't know much about them so it's easy to support them

I was stationed in Northern Ireland, the good lads there are the best of Britain the fenians are the worsts.

The 55%

That's because the English are dependent on Scotland

Ok Nicola

Kiwi descended from the British Isles here. Scotland has too many elderly people to comfortably become independent. If they secede, they will be like Japan, in a situation where they have to choose between importing a lot of third worlders or balance their budget extremely tightly. Scotland benefits from a union with England, because their young often get jobs in England while their old can enjoy benefits from taxes of English, Scottish and other British young people working in England. The same situation goes for Wales and Northern Ireland, their young get jobs in England while the elderly can enjoy benefits from taxes. Only reason southern Ireland is doing well, is because America is using them as a tax haven, so southern Ireland has become effectively a corporate colony of America. Southern Ireland should join the United Kingdom and put the past behind them, as they are culturally and genetically most similar to the rest of the British Isles. Scotland should not do what southern Ireland did and leave UK, only to become beholden to American megacorporations.

ni is ok

Scots have a massive chip on their shoulder regarding England, because deep down they know that England has a much richer history and generally more to be proud of. Their entire history has been framed against England within a British context, whereas England's priorities have been the great powers of the continent. They also know that despite their whining about 'oppression', the fraught history between the two nations is mostly due to Scottish aggression towards the south and not vice-versa. From the 12th Century until the Union of the Crowns, Scotland's elite aped England and tried to Anglicise Scotland as much as possible, whilst trying to remain politically independent of their neighbours. As soon as the Stuarts inherited the Crown of England, they fucked off to London and embraced a wealth and level of civilised sophistication that the cold, dank corridors of a castle in Fife could never be home to. Today these events are portrayed in a deceitful, Braveheart-tier manner, as if England had brutally subjugated Scotland and raped it of its Gaelic culture. Nonsense, obviously, but not to the Scots.

Then there's the fact that Scotland has considerably higher rates of alcoholism, drug use, teenage pregnancies and suicide than England, and indeed most other markers of a Third World state. They're even poorer than the English. They'll tell you that this is all Thatcher's fault, but the reality is that the Scots have had a great deal of autonomy for 25 years and - whilst the UK as a whole has improved in most regards - Scotland has regressed. Education has drastically decreased in quality, the economy is in tatters by comparison to England, and their beloved oil doesn't seem to have served them very well so far.

Mostly they're just a race of purple-faced, pint-swigging halfwits, for whom the crux of their identity is an irrational hatred of a superior neighbour.

Yea, but neither France nor Germany take England seriously.

I'm against Scottish separatism, but have a serious pro-English and anti-Scottish bias on history which is wrong. There was no good or bad guys, it was conflict between a large and small country, both sides making mistakes. It's time to put the past behind. England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland have far more in common with each other than they do with continentals.

Germany is butthurt that they were mogged by England and the rest of the UK and Commonwealth in the World Wars. France is butthurt because the British Empire mogged theirs.

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none of this was planned, it just happened

The Scots love third worlders, though.They'll be able to brown themselves up in no time if they're independent.

The French have spent over a thousand years claiming that the English are inferior, subhuman, etc, and yet repeatedly found themselves bested by them. This is why they exist in such a bizarre mental state, not quite sure why their neighbours across the Channel have thwarted them despite being so backwards. All nonsense, obviously, but I guess France will always be the John Bettendorf or Elliott Rogers to England's granite-jawed Aryan Chad :^)

The Germans have finally found themselves in a position of global influence, and it has gone to their heads. Who cares what a nation of self-loathers thinks?

Most Welsh don’t mind the English

>There are 5 teams in Glasgow

Only 4

Celtic, Rangers, Partick and Queens Park

>Scotland will be unable to trade with UK after independence

Based retard

most of the North England is like that as well, they have a chip on their shoulder about London but it's only Scots and the Welsh that talk about seceding since it's only being part of another country that means you're not represented apparently

Most Welsh are English.

>implying scotland will ever be independent

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it's better to keep both as close as possible though

Rangers fans are proud to be Scottish and part of the Union. Celtic fans are commie inbred spoon burning Mick cunts.

There, you've learned something today, my retarded friend.

Please stop confusing Scottish Protestants (who invented the modern world) and the disgusting subhumans thrust upon us to quell our social progress. Thank you.

Hamilton, St. Mirren, Queens Park. All in Greater Glasgow.

Again, these aren't 'all Scots'. Just our Irish socialist pals from the depths of hell.

plz explain more about scottish protestants - I thought scotland was historically catholic? Jacobites etc.

What the actual fuck, are you joking? Scottish Presbyterianism and its forebears shaped the UK. John Knox ring a bell? Or King James I?

I refuse to believe you actually think that as we were one of the most staunchly religious cultures (but with it being based on the Protestant work ethic/not ritual worship) before kike corporation owners flooded us with fucking Micks in the 19thC.

Seriously, we invented economics, medicine, and communicative technology. Adam Smith? Hume? The Jacobites were French funded terrorists.

The Scottish protestants (Carnegie, Ford, Trump) also shaped the US.

Scots aren't people

>Thinking any words typed by brown hands or uttered by brown lips matter to God's people.

lol stupid fuck

Scots are the whiniest most pathetic people in Europe. They should be grateful that anyone else in the UK takes them at all seriously. Fucking retarded how they think of themselves as being that distinct from the rest of Britain, which only really became a popular idea in Scotland within the past 100 years. What fucking dumb losers

ford was not a scottish protestant

Don’t get why you of all people are making fun of us for this

>and yet repeatedly found themselves bested by them
You mean bested by themselves?

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He was inducted in the Scottish Rite, an institution that founded the US. See also George Washington. Go shag some kids ya bead rattling midden.

Exactly. We rejected Independence in a landslide vote. We literally could have had it with ease and rejected it due to our shared bonds in the Union. It's funny, you cunts seem to think that the British Empire = England. Every shitskin country ever brought to heel was subjugated with Scottish steel, Scottish produce, and Scottish blood.

Fuck off, you realise no one in England actually wants you to stay in the union right? We're sick of your constant complaining, the way your steal our money, and how you keep electing SNP MPs to every fucking seat but you STILL WON'T FUCKING LEAVE.

You brought the plague to your land because of your own pride. Pity it didn't finish the job.

If those are your examples Scottish protestants are just jews.

based
t. protestant mutt

is this where we pretend that communism isn't the pinnacle of Jewish subversion and power-grabbing?

They are. Scottish and Northern Irish protestants are the biggest shills for Israel outside of the US.

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so weird how unironically obsessed scotland is with us, but then i remember ye're just mad since we invented your country and still culturally dominate it through silly things like the old firm that makes half of yous seethe : )

lol

we also invented bagpipes, shortbread, haggis, whiskey, and fighting. Scots are our first cousins and we should be proud of how well they've done, except for their rugby which is a bit shit always very promising every five years or so but never very good.
Love Scotland and love the Scots and their accents.

Scots are pathetic in all honesty. I hate the fact they're such twats but I still want to see them qualify for shit.
They're in a constant state of bitterness.

Because they're better than Germany and the Netherlands.

I'd be bitter too if I had to share a land border with you cunts

Northern Ireland is better at football

I'll agree to that if Tyrone win the all-Ireland this year

the middle east is just one big WWE fight taken too far, and Israel are the best guys to root for. it's not even them doing the lefty cultural Marxist stuff in the media, it's a separate group of American Jews. but seriously compared to the savages that Palestinians, the kikes seem like saints. woman are literal property there and the only reason you don't fuck your daughters is because you need to sell them as virgins. the worst hollywood pedo set is nothing compared to the ritual homosexual abuse in the Muslim world
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dancing_Boys_of_Afghanistan
nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/asia/us-soldiers-told-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html?_r=2&referrer=
huffpost.com/entry/irans-dark-secret-child-p_b_262222
even lefties write about it it's so bad

This.

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>Kiwi descended from the British Isles here.

lmao.

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You're not a very good liar

he's right they're constantly bitter at us and england

I'm a prostestant from boston, literally half the catholic kids I knew got diddled. don't throw stones from the glass house liam

Bahahhaaha.

I assumed they did that as a counterpoint to Celtic fans sucking off the arabs more so than any deep conviction.

>woman are literal property
Sounds like a good deal

I went to a Pollok match last time I was in Glasgow, unironically good atmosphere and decent level of play.

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA you can't prop an economy up flogging irn bru, caramel wafers and porridge oats mate, Scotland would be nothing more than a picturesque wasteland if it weren't for England.

This. If the taigs started supporting Israel tomorrow Protestants would be shilling for the Palestinians instead in a heartbeat.

A dildo in thatcher’s dead arse

You don't see many supporters of Rangers FC (IL) these days, not since their club ceased to exist in 2012.

>getting uppity after you beat danish literal who’s the other day
Holy shit, back in your bin hun scum, how many times do we need to tell you that this is our board

it's not a chip so much as justified disappointment. The north in general gets fucked over hard by a London centric state, and although there have been recent attempts to make the north more like cool and interconnected and of a continental flavour like London, it's pretty shit and nobody wants it. They just want the facilities and infrastructure that London/the south has

Imagine being a literal saxon and calling anyone a hun.
Actually, our self hate is part and parcel for germanic peoples.

I’m a Celt

So the protestants are just being obnoxious retards then? Good to know.

They have oil

>imperialism good
fucking idiot

your a mutt

>England could have literally walked in and fucking steamrolled Scotland after they shit the bed trying to take Panama (only to get shit on by tropical disease and then the Spanish lmao)
>Be nice and go for a Union based on trade instead, giving them access to the biggest market and financial resource in the world at the time and for almost 200 years after
>They won't stop bitching and moaning the whole time

Cut them off and let them fucking sink.

Don't we pay for all your beifits and pensions? I think Scotland cost us a fortune for what we get back.

And no matter what they claim it’s just anti-English butthurt. Imagine voting to be independent just so you can join the EU.

Had oil. Aberdeen is a wasteland m8

Fokken Thatcher

They still have oil you dumb paki

Yeah completely uneconomical oil. Good luck with that.
That 8bn in tax receipts the snp talked about during the indy ref generated 40m then next financial year. 0.5%.

Pretty much, they do it just to piss of the celtic fans, theres no real allegiance
t.live in Govan

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nae need for that son

this, used to live there 5 years ago, went back few months ago to visit some old m8s and the place is like a ghost town, the amount of for sale signs in the west end was hilariously tragic

We are constantly bitter with ourselves too. Perhaps it's a Gaelic trait?

>ulster scots fled to northern ireland from the clearances centuries ago.

Absolute bullshit, shamelessly made up bullshit. The Ulster Scots are low land scots, from the border regions with England. They were put there by a Scottish King James the 1st to colonise Ireland.

Rangers isn’t an Irish team

Everything Scottish is Irish , we may as well just unify we're the same people.

nah your good m8

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Which of those three is the Scot?

Low land scots (most of them) are not Gaelic.

Pictish/Anglo with a hint of Norse

I'm in Dublin, this city was founded by the Norse and conquered by the Anglo-Normans. Still very Irish being that it's in Ireland and all. Anyway, the offer is there, Scotland and Norn Ireland union with Ireland, let the English have themselves.

gotta love the cope from catholic irish-“scots” when any honest reading of history shows scotland to be englands side kick.

Most common scottish surnames are mostly of anglo-saxon origins.

I think the most common surnames in Ireland are Kelly and Murphy

Scotland played a massive role in empire building even more so with its small population, both militarily and by trade, funny how England lost every war with France bar two and won every single won after the union was formed

It definitely is

It's literally just an export of the situation unique to Norn Iron

Oil price is higher right now than it was in September 2014 during the referendum Mohammed

>yo lets invade a country even though we have the same head of state

>Most common scottish surnames are mostly of anglo-saxon origins.

no they aren't.

the majority of scottish surnames start with mc or mac

Not him but Mc/Mac surnames are a large minority, but not the majority. At least where I live anyway

still victims of colonialism arent they. darn england

It was founded by 4 Scottish guys, the issues with Northern Ireland didn’t start until fifty years after it was created

Google proves you wrong

the history of scotland goes like this

>rich scottish person: *is a cunt*

>poor scottish people: why would england do this

you obviously dont live in the central belt then

no it doesn't

>Most common scottish surnames are mostly of anglo-saxon origins.

which of these are anglo-saxon

1. Smith
2. Brown
3. Wilson
4. Campbell
5. Stewart
6. Thomson
7. Robertson
8. Anderson
9. Macdonald
10. Scott
11. Reid
12. Murray
13. Taylor
14. Clark
15. Ross
16. Watson
17. Morison
18. Paterson
19. Young
20. Mitchell

indeed it does, m8

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mac and mc names combined = over 5000

The first three for a start, can’t be bothered to go through all of them.

Pot, kettle

cant be bothered because you're wrong.

less than half of them are anglo-saxon

A lot of that is because of recent Irish immigration. Can you prove most people have mc/mac names?

the clearances weren’t until like a century later too

I doubt you’re right. Most of them are perfectly normal English names.

>A lot of that is because of recent Irish immigration
>recent

what is this recent irish immigration? the biggest immigrant group in scotland is the poles

>Can you prove most people have mc/mac names?

no.

what the fuck has this got to do with sports?, fuck off with your shit thread porridge wogs

Victorian era immigration

>flooded us with fucking Micks
You were flooded with micks anyway. Scottish is another name for Irish basically.

Thankfully

Dumbass. The Scots were a smallish nation from Ulster called Dal Riada, they colonised the Western Isles and assimilated Picts and Britons into the newly formed Alba (Scotland) before their heartland of the Hebrides got VIKING’D

wouldn't be calling that recent desu. and mc/mac is a lot more scottish than it is irish anyway.

most common irish names(murphy, kelly, o'sullivan, walsh) don't feature on the list

How, when Aberdeen is the city with the 2nd highest average pay in the UK?

Smith and Brown are common Irish surnames.
Even if the name is originally from somewhere else it doesn't make it any less of the land it is in. Like potatoes aren't Irish, tomatoes aren't Italian, beer is only Egyptian. It's an extremely pedantic line of argument.

RIP Rangers

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