/nba/ general - ZERO MVPS + ZERO NBA FINALS GAMES PLAYED edition

>Future HoF Vince Carter signs 1-year contract with Atlanta Hawks for his 42nd and final season
>Veteran big man Udonis Haslem to return for 17th season with Miami Heat

>Ben Simmons posted a video on Instagram in which he asked why he and two black friends were asked for identification but another person in their group who is white was not. He deleted the post Tuesday morning. The casino issued a statement saying its “internal security policy requires our security officers to check identification of those persons they believe to be under the age of 25, this is an enhanced safeguard to ensure that no one under the age of 18 is permitted entry to the casino floor as required by law." Simmons, whose father is African American, did not explain why he deleted the post.

>Last year, there were 35 players named to the 2018-20 USA roster for a 2018 minicamp, this year's World Cup and next year's Olympics.
>Of those 35, only 14 were on the 20-man training camp roster for the World Cup when it was announced on June 10.
>Between June 10 and the start of camp on Monday, nine of those 14 backed out.
>The five remaining are Harrison Barnes, Kyle Lowry, Khris Middleton, Myles Turner and Kemba Walker.

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Holy shit Udonis Haslem is really coming back next season. Still remember when he was a dominant 300+-lber in college kind of like Zion and got his team to the Final Four back in like 2000

dude's a legend

Bulls

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their core is for real

Coby is gonna be great

Who's the best Sopranos character and why is it Paulie

Unsung hero in 2006 and some of the LeBron years, he had huge defensive performances and clutch buckets in the finals. Chalmers is another forgotten guy on those teams who made clutch shot after clutch shot to keep them alive throughout the playoffs and help get those rings.

For me, it’s the character that can’t CONTROL THE VOLUME OF HIS VOICE

The Minnesota Timberwolves traded Kris Dunn, Zach Lavine, and Lauri Markkanen for Dario Saric, Robert Covington, and Jerryd Bayless.

Never forget.

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2 All Stars in the making

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christopher?

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The problem wasn't the trade the problem was what they did with it. Not doing anything with Butler, and wasting the pick they got on Justin Patton.

It wasn’t long ago Christopher waited in the car, MAYBE HE SHOULD BE THERE

You mean Johnny Sack? That dude ruled

Serious question - how much would you guys laugh if neither the clippers nor the lakers win a chip within the next 4 years

I'll take any opportunity to laugh at the Lakers but honestly it wouldn't be that surprising

it's really hard to win titles in the NBA

Of course

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Why is it that the only way to win a championship these days is if you join up? What happened to loyalty?

That's why I felt like the Warriors' first championship was the only legit one. Because they came from nothing. They had to add Kevin Durant just to beat LeBron.

go jazz

Hes joining the warriors right?

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How much would you guys laugh if i didnt cry tonight from kawhi not coming back haha

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man lebron sure is mad at the new ncaa rule

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>leafs
Did you fucking forget he won a ring or something?

>tfw bust

Reminder that jordan had no come back after this.

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how was your taco tuesday /nba/? did you at least watch 1 freedawkins lebron highlight mix?

I made burgers today because I had tacos on Monday :^)

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does Lebron peruse tumblr? How did he manage to string together such a repulsive message

Yo let's give a quick shoutout to Joe Johnson

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Night losers

Delusional Lakers/Lebron fans, give me a single legitimate reason that the NCAA would "single out Rich Paul" like people claim the new rule is doing.

Hearing from multiple sources that De’Aaron Fox and Donovan Mitchell have been standouts in the first two days of Team USA training camp. Nobody has consistently been able to stay in front of Fox
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I hate the Lakers and I don't particularly care about Chris Paul but it's hard to come up with a rational justification for the rules (it makes sense that there are rules, but the particular ones they came up with are weird and stupid) and they very obviously exclude Chris Paul

So, like

lmao

you're the king of linking things, user

I meant Rich Paul obviously

it's late, I'm tired, shut up

I hate that twitter and amazon do that when I try to look up stuff online.

The same records that you makin' is payin' me
Motherfuck Dre! Motherfuck Snoop! Motherfuck Death Row!
Yo, and here comes my left blow
'Cause I'm the E-A-Z-Y-E and this is the season
To let the real motherfuckin' G's in

I know that De'Aaron Fox is elite, but somehow the Sacramento Kings will find a way to screw him over. He should get the fuck out as soon as he can seeing what they did to Boogie.

This lil dude is becoming too powerful so they must shut him down before he can influence others.

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I feel like if Jaylen Brown doesn't get better immediately, the Celtics will definitely trade him this year.

the Kings have great complementary pieces for Fox. His primary strengths are driving, pick and roll and fast breaks. You have Buddy Hield one of the top shooters, Dedmon a stretch 5, and a fast break pick and roll big with Bagley that has all star potential. I'm not sure what else you could ask for.

If you take a look at Boogie his teams were handled differently. They never got proper shooting. His best shooters were Isaiah Thomas, Marco Bellineli and Rudy Gay.

nigga throw ball lol

told myself i would never watch this gif again. and im not. just posting it so that i can delete it without feeling like it has been erased from history, as much as i wish it was i think i might regret it and dwell on it 10 years from now when im trying to remember this god dream season and i start to weep and it hurts my eyes to cry so much but my heart finally feels whole again and i half want to see his smile again but persuade myself not to hurt myself again. ill be a stronger man then

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They'll take care of all that. They've already gotten rid of the only coach in recent history that's gotten them any results despite having young team and replaced him with the guy who just got fired from the lakers of all places.

Kangz gonna kang

>Vince Carter, 42nd final season
>42nd
how old is he? 60?
you stupid fuck

Started messing around with draft classes in 2k (they have all the historic draft classes but you have to put in some work because the devs are lazy)

Here was the lottery for the best summer league ever

Celtics - Larry Bird
Knicks - Dominique Wilkins
Pistons - Luka Doncic
Suns - Allen Iverson
Heat - Tony Parker
Bulls - Ben Wallace
Lakers - Magic
Magic (myteam) - Manu Ginobili
Wizards - Dikembe
Hawks - Joe Johnson
Clippers - Jason Terry
Celtics - Shawn Kemp (imagine the fucking lobs and they still have Kyrie/Horford and the Jays)
Mavericks - JJJr
Spurs - Jeff Hornacek
Hornets - Roy Hibbert

>Agents also will need to fill out an application and clear a background check
Kek, no more posses

>that moolie with the Whalers lining on his jacket

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Kek

SWAGGER DOWN PAT

CALL THAT BITCH PATRICIA

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he will be the only player to play in 4 different decades
90s, 00s, 10s, and 20s

Yo, I never fucked Wayne, I never fucked Drake
On my life, man, fuck's sake
If I did, I'd ménage with 'em
And let 'em eat my ass like a cupcake

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I want a nets jersey because I’m a bandwagoning former knicks faggot but their jerseys are so ugly

get a throwback one
they used to have those gay looking light blue jerseys, sounds right up your alley...pun intended

I will never betray my Knickies, even if we go eighty years without making the playoffs that one playoff singular game victory will be incredibly sweet knowing I was loyal the entire time

>I will never betray my Knickies
How long have you been a fan?

2013 or 2016 Finals?

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BASED
fuck Dolan

35 years

>will never betray my Knickies, even if we go eighty years without making the playoffs


this must be the mantra of Knicks front office.

based boomers

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kawhi really wrecked you canucks huh

>160 mill over 5 years is lowballing

>kemba was prepared to accept 190 mill over 5 years


they offered him too much imo
looks like the hornets didnt want to be stuck with him for 5 years most of it on the wrong side of 30

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Not good enough to drag you to the playoffs by himself
Too good for you to bottom out and get a pick that will mean anything (a cant miss generational pick even Jordan could not squander)

You do not lose anything but attendance by letting him walk, yes he is the best player in franchise history (I guess) but it is Charlotte Hornets history

Which final: 1957 final or 1959 final or 1960 final or 1961 final or 1962 final or 1963 final or 1964 final or 1965 final or 1966 final or 1968 or 1969

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2019 obviously

The problem is that they turned around and paid Terry fuckin Rozier instead

My Rapties are an example of how much a front office matters in the NBA.

Look at the Bryan Colangelo era versus the Masai Ujiri era.

Hornies just need someone competent to build their team. It’s not a bad city in any sense.

*

GOT
‘EM

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Should have traded him a year earlier

mitch kupchack is alright
the worst thing hes done so far is give rozier 50mill
hes just handcuffed from the shitty contracts of the last gm

Like with any other shitty franchise, it all comes back to ownership

firing cho and hiring kupchack was a good decision by ownership

How do you know?

because giving nic batum, marvin williams, kidd gilchrist, and cody zeller all huge multi year contracts was stupid as fuck

no, but how do you know hiring Kupchak was good

pretty crazy indeed

glad to see hawks pick up vince too

That wasn't even a LeBron question. Just a coincidence actually. Both great finals, two of the best of the modern era.

his longest and biggest contract so far is rozier, which isnt a crazy amount of cap hit and only 3 years

if he can avg 15 or so a game and improve shooting hes probably worth the deal

>Aye T! Ya destination Burger King is tree miles to ya left. You fat fuck!

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The biggest decision they've made during his tenure there was not trading Kemba, which was objectively a mistake, especially since they apparently were never actually interested in paying him

I don't know how much of that was Kupchak and how much of it was MJ but it's certainly not a good call

they were still in the mix for homecourt playoff seed at the trade deadline the last 2 years.

cant fucking believe we did it bros

part of being a good GM and having a good organization is recognizing false hope for what it is and making the hard choices when they need to be made

3rd place in the east at the all star break is real hope though

im not saying ownership is great or even good but it shows improvement

de...de.....drr....drrrakee???? DDRAKEE???? HES NOT ALOWED TO... HE... HE CANT DO THAT. THATS ISNT R-RIGHT !!! GET HIM OUT!!!!! I NEED HIM OUT OF HERE!!!!

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leafs are absolutely fucking retarded and gay
just like their leader

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>42 seasons with no rings
>Still gets a farewell tour
I bet melo is seething hard right now

I'll be genuinely happy for you if you haven't offed yourself in the three years it'll take them to get that win, user.

they have no reason to kill themselves no one kills themselves because of a bad sports teams

Fultz looking like he's going to win Most Improved Player. The Magic might have made one of the best trades in the last decade. I have them finishing 4th in the East

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what are some elite players who had ACL tear injuries and still came back elite?

dominique wilkins

dang he lookin like a young michael jordan from that gif

You ever met a knicks fan?

PELICANS will win their first title in 2022-23, cap this shit.

Don't mind me sniffing around, just wanted to let you know you've been
>SILVERED

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How is Kevin Knox so bad? He seemed to be decent in college and is getting a ton of playing time on the Knicks yet he was one of the worst players in the NBA last season

I dont think the knicks are good at raising young talent to an nba level, or anything

youtube.com/watch?v=FuzKIFYR4PY

Myles Turner a beast on the boards

>The five remaining are Harrison Barnes, Kyle Lowry, Khris Middleton, Myles Turner and Kemba Walker.

that team beats everyone tbqhfam

based and gabagoolpilled

Lowkey my Rapties were the best defensive team since the 04 Pistons

need a big ass bitch

How is it fair that us /nba/ chads can’t get girls?

Look at this incel

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Is the Raptor's championship more or less fraudulent than KDs? Obviously neither count, but which one counts even less?

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he was IIRC the actual youngest player in his draft class

I agree but I also want to point out that Harrison Barnes is trash

Reminder the big dipper would break little Mike's arm if Mike attacked the paint

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ron artest wouldve broken one of big dips ribs if he tried to dunk on him

her ex looks like he could be her brother

The big dipper broke gus Johnsons shoulder.

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Obviously kd's. The 2019 finals was balanced, both teams were injured, GSW just lost the player that would make guarantee their ring, without him, they could win regardless.

melo is pathetic

youtube.com/watch?v=Mv3rwL9T1BE

Yahoo Sports Canada
@YahooCASports
post-game update: kelly olynyk is getting x-rays and there should be an update tomorrow morning. nick nurse says it looked like a knee injury.

FUCK YOU LEAFS

Rank the players the Lakers should not have traded away the last decade

1. D'Lo
2. Sweet Lou
3. Pau Gasol (sadly, blew up in their face and they got nothing for him)
4. #4 pick or Darius Garland
-------------------------
>9001. Busto
>900000000001. Hart
>900000000000000000000000001. Ingshit

The 2019 Raptors will be remembered like the 1979 SuperSonics

DLo would be such a good fit there lol

But then Klay and Looney went down too. They beat Steph, Dray, Iggy,

>9001. Busto
>900000000001. Hart
>900000000000000000000000001. Ingshit

Honestly, they shouldn't have had to trade all three. AD gave them all leverage and they still fucked it up and sold all their assets despite the pelicans not having any other trade partners willing to come close. Why the fuck would he even want to go to a FO that does this kind of retarded shit?

3 words

space, jam, $$$$$

He said it himself, he’s only going to be there for one year anyway. Once the Clippers win their first ring next season he will probably join them across the hall and they will hit the 5peat together

>NBA makes some mental health initiative now
>NBA fans: wow adam silver so woke, best league ever

>NFL released one earlier this year
>crickets

Why do you care? He’s shit

Wow I hope his mom gets hit by a car.

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be happy he got you a chip ungrateful faggot

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D'Lo and Lou Williams now we're stuck with shitter Danny Green.

imagine caring this much about apehoop in 2019

The Rich Paul rule is definitely racist (background checks kek) but I do not like black people that much especially when they get uppity like Paul

This depression actually get to me bros

It's bullshit because it targets him for his background, not his shady underhanded tactics that should actually be addressed.

same here lad i feel so empty without muh hoops to give me something to look forward to

>Team no rings
These are hilarious

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What can the thunder get for them?

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>melo second team
>one playoff appearance and one series win the whole decade
lmao?

You can see the exact moment his hopes of ever getting another ring just *SNAP* out of existence.

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De'aaron Fox has put on some muscle in the off season. I think you're gonna see him finishing through contact a lot more often.

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Did u say happy birthday Demar yet today??

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Could this finally be the year he comes over?

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i run out of fake tear eye drops every week. it hurts bros

Drink more water

when I die put my money ina grave

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Chris Paul is the most underrated player in the history of the league

>not getting a $20 scratcher, 2 rolling rocks for 3.50 and a bag of munchies

>lite and not high life
cringe

Is he worthy of being a Hall of Fame candidate?

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Absolutely

Ah. The good old days when when we knew who was the face of the Chicago Bulls and we did not need a daily reminder.

youtube.com/watch?v=NJQDRUjY2Sc

I forgot he's played for the bulls

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Damn I want her...

MELO SIGNED WITH LA

I think he'd be better off on a young rebuilding team with nothing to lose such New York, Chicago, or Oklahoma City.

she is probably fucking todd right now....

Those teams aren't going to win no matter what, best case scenario is that melo teaches them some bad habits. I see him going to a team that needs something to push them over the edge and is willing to gamble, similar to how he ended up on the rockets last year.

Sidenote, OKC front office is kind of on thin ice after last season and losing PG. If they bring back Melo, they'll probably have riots.

Vince Carter is better now than he was 20 years ago

Night losers

poor rich Paul how will he ever recover from the white establishment...

NBA is gay as fuck with the dumbest fans on Earth but it's great for gambling

Ya ya him salting over Toronto ain’t my business since snakes gonna hiss and it’s been that way since they won. Everyone invalidating the trophy because history said all the other championships werent righed (hello lakers) and everyone was healthy.

Im more fascinated in his other statements
>telling the media there wasn’t any pressure to play the game and it was all him
Whose he kidding? The entire world was buzzing because Kerr and the owner insisted that KD was gonna be able to play soon and kept repeating it like it could’ve happened any game now. He just zoned out all the noise? He didn’t know that his loyalties was questioned since the start of the season, fuck even before that? A person whose so sensitive about outside chatter from nobodies that he needed burner accounts for twitter? KD is either incredibly retarded and put his insecurities ahead of his health or he’s just playing liar. Makes sense, unless the warriors were out right attacking his character (Spurs should know that). He might think something about management but probably thinking about how it would look to the other players, his “brothers”.
Phah. Regardless he’s done and should just focus on sucking up that New York real estate. May he one day find peace in himself.

he's in a better position to know how he feels than you are

clapped so hard to the KD injury today bros. it felt extra good tonight. hopefully tomorrows can give me this high

dude you can't actually be this mad that a basketball player left the place that he got traded to out of spite

underrated banger

I thought Lonzo was supposed to be ugly bros. What happened?

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kinda looks like the Goose in that picture

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airbrushed the acne scars

>average a triple-double for THREE(3) seasons in a row
>second team

Talk about empty numbers

Is you single or what?

I need a girl from the country

I need a girl from Kentucky

I need a shawty from Houston

Melo is ring chasing now. He doesn't want to be a tank commander

the raptors seem to be in a strange place. i see people celebrating that they're in shambles which they are not (that would be an exaggeration). but i also see raptor fans trying to claim that they can actually make a run with this roster or a slightly tuned-up roster next year. that simply isn't going to happen. they aren't bottom of the barrel in the east at all, could easily make the playoffs. but they definitely aren't good enough to win the eastern conference finals again

they're going to be in classic jazz territory where you're not good enough to win but not bad enough to tank. i guess an awkward phase is natural after sort of winning a championship

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super-flat, shaved or almost shaved heads do not look good on certain people. you need to have large facial features for it to work but lonzo has beady little eyes. the corn rows have helped a lot because they give his hair some shape, imo

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Westbrook functionally killed the concept of stats. He heard people talking about dem triple doubles and decided to completely devalue any significance by being greedy as fuck about it. As a researcher, he's like those medical tests that fudge the t value until it looks like their sample worked, when in reality it was a super cherry picked nonsense study by a biased first party.

You ain’t got the juice like that...you ain’t got the juice like that...

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>based David Goggins calling out "load management" betas

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Lakers would be okay to laugh at, but if the Clippers don't win then they'd be the laughing stock of the decade.

Dear Kawhi, we offered you a private jet, but you still ain't callin'
5 years $190 million and an OVO record, just sign there at the bottom
We gave two meetings back in June, you must not've liked 'em
There probably was a problem with the Toronto weather or somethin'
Sometimes I envy the LA weather when I watch 'em
But anyways, fuck it, what's been up, man
How's your daughter?
My girlfriend's pregnant too, I'm 'bout to be a father
If I have a daughter, guess what I'ma call her?
I'ma name her Kawaii
I read about your father Mark too, I'm sorry
I had a friend kill himself over some bitch who didn't sign with him
I know you probably hear this every day, but I'm your biggest fan
I even watched the defensive shit that you did on James
I got a room full of your posters and your picture frames
I like the shot you hit on the Sixers too, that shit was Klutch
Anyways, I hope you get this, man, hit me up
Your biggest fan, truly yours, just to chat,
this is Rap

Dear Kawhi, you still ain't called or signed, I hope you have a chance
I ain't mad, I just think it's fucked up you always ghost your fans
If you don't want to give hints about where you're headed
You don't have to
But you could at least dispel the rumors surrounding you
You're scaring my little brother Matthew, he's been a fan for one year old
Yet we're waiting in the Toronto' cold
For you, for four days, and we still don't know
That's pretty shitty, man, you're like his fuckin' idol
He wants to ball just like you, man, he likes you more than I do
I ain't that mad, though I just don't like being lied to
Remember when we traded DeRozan?
You said if we won with you, you would sign back
See, I'm just like you in a way:I ain't never wanna join LeBron neither
He used to always dad dick DeRozan and beat her
I love these new Raptors man, and they're all so young
So when I have a shitty day, I drift away and put 'em on
‘Cause I don't really got other teams
So that shit helps when I'm a leaf
I even see the Fun Guy when I'm in my dreams
Sometimes I feel his giant hands enveloping me
It's like game 6, the adrenaline is such a sudden rush for me
You don't say much, but what you say is real, and I respect you ‘cause you tell it
My girlfriend's jealous 'cause I talk about your laugh 24/7
But she don't know you like I know you, Kawhi, no one does
She don't know what it was like for Robots like us growin' up
You gotta sign with us, man
I'll be the biggest fan you'll ever lose, sincerely yours, Rap
P.S.: We should threepeat together soon

Dear Mr. I'm-Too-Good-for-Toronto-and-Prefer-LA
This'll be the last package I ever send your ass
I heard you signed with the Clippers—the Raptors don't deserve you?
I know they couldn't match our last two offers
We wrote the salaries on 'em perfect
So this is my OVO cassette I'm sendin' you, I hope you hear it
I'm in the car right now, listenin to In My Feelings doin' 90 on the freeway
Hey, Kawhi, I drank a fifth of Virginia Black, you dare me to drive?
You know the song by Drake, "In Marvin's Room Tonight"
About that guy who could've let his girl have him
But didn't, then Drake saw it all, then at a club was drownin'
That's kinda how this is: the Clippers could've let us have him
Now it's too late, I've made a thousand shitposts now—I'm drowsy
And all I ever wanted was a lousy back to back
I hope you know I replaced all your posters with some of Lowry's back
I loved you, Kawhi, we coulda repeated together—think about it!
Lowry, Siakam, and Van Vleet, I hope you can't sleep and you dream about em'
And when you play I hope you can't rest
And you get injured for it; I hope the Clippers play you
And you can't load manage with them
See, Kawhi—shut up, bitch! I'm tryin' to talk
Hey, Kawhi, that's the Lakers screamin' in the trunk
But I didn't slit her throat, I just tied her up, see I ain't like you
‘Cause if you tie her up and prevent her from getting free agents she'll suffer more and then she'll die too
Well, gotta go, I'm almost at the bridge now
Oh, shit, I forgot—how am I supposed to send this shit out?!

My blood's gone cold
I'm wondering why I watch the NBA at all
The Toronto rain clouds up my window
And I can't see at all
And even if I could it'd all be gray
But your picture on my wall
It reminds me that it's not so bad, it's not so bad

Shouldn't it be Toronto snow?

Who would win an arm wrestling match: Shaq or Wilt?

Both are in their prime.

I did half a xan 13 hours till i land had me out like a light ay like a light ay like a light ay slept through the flight ay

Reminder if the NBA didn't fuck over the 76ers and Hinkie, Ben Simmons would have been traded for Kawhi Leonard and they would be champions.

Now they're cap fucked with a PG who can't shoot and a terrible max contract bench player

philly sucks shit and medical joe aka embiitch will get injured this season

>team USA don't want melo
Off to China melo

Shaq. No doubt.

Kyle Lowry deserves to be an NBA Champion

This desu

Artis Gilmore

I need a shawty from Houston

2020s start in 2021 though

A fat Mexican?

I'd straight up rather have Sweet Lou over any of them on this current team. I'm actually worried he's going to be the x-factor for the
Clippers this season.

u rite. post more comfy suburbs

...

>I GOT HOES
>CALLING

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So excited

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FUCK LEBRON

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In the post season he is.

He only got shut down because he was the primary scorer.
That’s not the case anymore

I need a girl who gon’ love me

Can fultz make the USA team

I need a girl from the country
I need a girl from Kentucky
I need a shawty from Houston
I need a girl who gon' love me
I need a girl who gon' trust me

He just needed a different cut. Nigga looked like Mandark with that retarded ass caesar cut lmaooo

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>implying this isn't objectively correct

>forgot the image

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based tiermaker logo covering that faggot's face

Which one? KG or Pierce?

i meant Pierce but i guess both apply

Jokic in hell nah? are you fucking retarded

that dude look like a chad

the ironic part is that nerdy white dudes are going to start getting a lot of pussy now.
girls love killers

These shooters be rocking rectangle glasses those niggas scare me now

Why doesn’t a garbage team sign Melo or Lin to sell tickets?

that wont sell tickets

Micheal Beasley banned for 5 games

Of course they will and Cavs/Hornets/Wiz/Suns/OKC/Knicks ain’t doing shit anyway

538 predict the Sixers will win the East:
projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nba-predictions/

Whut

way too early to put doncic in Hall of Fame. one bad injury would destroy his career. Also D Rose should be higher since HoF takes college into account

>Lauri twice
HATIN ASS BOOMERS SHOOK

Sixers/Lakers would/will be an awesome Finals matchup

>Warriors will have to feel the crackle of the Lakers' raw sexual energy for almost their entire preseason

dis gon b gud

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people wont buy a tickets to see melo sit in his warm up all game.

simple answer is what we are seeing with melo is the result of burned bridges.

I sure hope you are referring to their first ever championship in 1947, because I don't think beating a Kyrie-less Cavs in 2015 counts as a legit championship.

The modern NBA is just soft. Garnett set every bridge on fire then pissed on it and still played 21 seasons.

Garnett is highly regarded by almost every player and front office employee.
Melo is not.
No way in hell Jordan will ever give Melo a contract after years of Melo talking shit about Jordan

Klay could retire yesterday and would be a first ballot.
Ginobili is a HOF lock.

>Iggy and Ginobli cusp
>Klay too early to tell
based retard

KG had a ring though.

it would be kinda funny to think that Melo is being black balled thanks to daring to insult the Holy Triangle of the Zen master.

Melo a bitch
Take your diva ass to China

MY NIGGA KD NOT FIRST BALLOT?

>doncic HOF already
Gtfo delusional white boy

how is he not? one of the best rookie season ever plus international success

Rondo should get in, but he never will

They want to give those touches to young prospects and develop them, not washed bums with baggage like Lin and Melo.

LAMELO 2020
#1 PICK

>empty numbers
You can say that about pretty much everyone on that team except for maybe cp3.

>one season
Tyreke Evans Future HOFer - you in 2009

How is melo over kawhi? 1st team should be Lebron and KD unless it’s still the meme 2G3F lineup

>it's not so bad, it's not so bad
Only part that isn't true, 9/10

That's the second team. First team is kind of a meme lineup though, Curry, Harden, Lebron, Kawhi, KD.

No center?

Wilt

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its not really blackballing
melo is useless right now
for some former stars a team will give them a roster spot because they are known as being a team player or a positive influence on young players.
Melo has none of that to offer.
Blackballing would be if he could actually add value to a team but owners get together and agree to not sign him.

he doesnt have any international success, he wasnt even a starter

Whose Beef is pettier?

Shaq vs Dwight or Kobe vs Allen?

Shaq vs Dwight was goofy, over a damn superhero logo

Shaq would have to wipe his dick off when he was done with wilt

Fox has a frame that looks like it can hold more muscle. I think that's what sets him apart from other shrimpy PGs like Trae and Ja.

are you dumb, he was the MVP and champion of 2 two of the best leagues out there

Lamarcus, Gasol, and Lowry will make it on longevity alone. Durant, Wade, Harden, and Lebron are first ballot. Butler and Horford might make it.

Lakers get: Jaylen
Celtics get: Kuzma, Cousins and Rondo

C: Davis
PF: LeBron
SF: Jaylen
SG: Green
PG: Bradley
Bench: Cook, McGee, Caruso, Dudley, Daniels, THT

Lakers would easily have the best defense in the league. Make it happen, Rob.

why would the celtics do that?

Cause they don't want to pay Jaylen max money.

you used to call me on my cellphone

Because they don't want to pay Jaylen the max and they desperately need a center and backup point guard. Oh, and because Kuzma has more potential than Jaylen but Kuzma doesn't fit the Lakers system. We need 3-and-D wing guys. Catch and shoot and play tough defense.

they can get better than a year of cousins, and having to pay kuzma next year. greens contract isnt exactly team friendly either.

Pau is HOF tf you smoking

Champion + international success + longevity + good numbers + 6x all star

Yeah he's in

KG had a mouth on him, but he earned his respect. Melo put himself first wherever he went and never got his teams anything for it.

>guys I'm really really black and I got carded at a casino as a 23 year old!

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You're stupid even by lakers fan standards. If the celtics wanted Cousins, they would have just signed him this summer. They also don't really have much use for Rondo right now. Neither of them add any value to the trade whatsoever. The only way this happens is if Ainge suddenly decides that he needs to do his team's biggest historical rival a massive favor or if Pelinka suddenly stops being the worst GM who doesn't work for the hornets.

Even if that happens, they're still not as strong as the 76ers defense. Maybe on par with the Clippers with Kawhi and PG13. Especially if they don't have kuz to shove lebum into his defensive rotations.

Ginobli is 1000% HoF

if lou wins a ring as sixth man he will make it

>draymond green
>hall of fame

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thanks for the reminder, almost forgot how ugly simmons was

I doubt it. The only guys who've made it into the Hall of Fame primarily based on coming off the bench are Bobby Jones and Kevin McHale (and Manu Ginobili will probably make it when eligible) (Sarunas Marciulionis also was largely a bench player in the NBA but that's not why he's in the Hall of Fame). and Lou Will doesn't come close to any of those guys as a player, he's a defensive non-entity. He'd have to win multiple rings from here on out probably.

The question with Draymond is how long he can maintain his level of play. He's already 29. If he can keep it up for like 5 or 6 more years, I think he's got a reasonable chance.

what level of play? being a slightly above average defender with absolute ass offensive game? getting easy assists because he passes to 2 of the best 3 point shooters ever?

hes in the hall of fame just for being on those elite warrior teams.

Jokic has the early career numbers of a first-ballot no-doubt inner-circle HOFer. You never can tell what happens to a guy down the road but he's as close to a sure bet as any 24 year old can be

Garnett is a top 15 player of all time and Melo is not that at all

>slightly above average defender

come on, don't just make up bizarrely untrue things like this

guess robert horry is going to the hall too

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOUR 2019 NBA NATIONAL BASKETBALL LEAGUE ASSOCIATION CHAMPIONS!!

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Ben Wallace is the best eligible player not in the Hall of Fame

discuss

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yeah dude, he really stopped Kawhi in the finals with that elite defense

>advanced stats
>3-6

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meant for

>He'd have to win multiple rings from here on out probably.
Not saying that it's guaranteed or even likely, but he's in an excellent position to be a key player on a championship team for the next few years. His chances will be even better if he shows he can pick up the slack when PG or Kawhi rest.

Green also left, and he went to a worse team. Why are you only mad at Kawhi?

yeah they're going to keep Draymond out of the hall of fame specifically because the Warriors lost in the 2019 finals

yeah, they're going to put Draymond in the hall specifically because he was carried to a finals win but real hall of famers

never forget

*

yeah because draymond green is a bench player. not saying he deserves it just that NBA will give it to him.

none of those guys will ever make an all star team so I dont know what your point was

they will do that

what kind of crazy shit

There are many reasons to criticize Draymond Green, like he can't shoot 3s and he punches people in the dick. So why do you have to make stuff up? Draymond Green hasn't come off the bench once in the past 5 years. Literally

what is sarcasm you dumb nigger

oh whoops

sorry, i'm shaken by the guy who said he wasn't a good defender, hard to tell how much crazy nonsense people are going to say at that point

The Kings are the most represented team in the olympics: Team USA:De'aaron Fox, Marvin Bagley, Harrison Barnes

Team Serbia: Bogdan Bogdanovic, Nemnja Bjelica

that nigga daniel green averaged 0 pts in the playoffs. cant hate on him for leaving, i would hate it if he stayed

danny green the 2nd best player on the raptors last season

The State of Filthadelphia sports.
>Iggles overhyped and got exposed by the titans and just lost their best potential QB for the season.
Who didn't see this one coming a mile away?
>Flyers signing old boomers and are cap locked of buying themselves a playoff berth for almost a whole decade and thus fucking prospect Hart into the gutter.
I keked hard and expected this
>76ers overpaid for guys who cant shoot and get sick from touching doorknobs to the point even Cuckson WInce looks healthy in comparison
They too were overhyped as shit to win the East
>Phillies became big spenders and traders, and now have an even worse team than last year when they had little to no big name talent
I almost died from laughter no joke at the thought the Mets swept them right off the rug of a playoff berth maybe.
Remember kids, a good Philly team is a dead one (Mediocre team is basically a eternally dead team in the sports world.)
Pass the meme on and laugh at that city to your heart's content.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH HAH *muffled clapping* AAHASHDHASHAHhAHHAHHA HOLYYYYY SHIT

NNNNNNHAHAHAHAHAHHAHhAHAH NNOOOON NO N O N O NONON NONNO HAAHHAHAHAH HA

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avery bradley is overrated

De'aaron Fox getting ready to take over the league. He looks like a new man.
youtube.com/watch?v=jQ6ygXReSho

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>But muh sixies said they'd run the East
>Muh sixies also said they didnt need that bum in Butler and can shoot without them.
>Also muh sixies said KD/KI have no chemistry
>Finally muh sixies no longer has to deal with anime raptie dood no more
Fucking 76ers are a fucking mess and delusional as shit for thinking they can get past the first round this year. My sides fucking hurt from laughing at them and their retarded fan's so hard they I might actually die from it.

Night losers

based fox repping concave chest gang

Morning terrorist

Damn I want her.

Why yes, I do stan Lonzo. How could you have possibly guessed that?

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>KD not first ballot
Is this b8

no center has been as impactful as any of them

Broke ass Stockton&Malone WHEN they learn to shoot. And that timeframe includes never.

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anyone got a real fantasy league i could join? espn autofills leagues with bots, thats no fun

*dabs on the league*
*makes black incels seeth*
*makes the playoffs*

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let's try to guess Porzingis' annual season ending injury. I'm guessing separated shoulder.

before or after january?

they need one more good player
the roster stinks other than those two

Who wins this 2-on-2 in 2009?
>Kobe/Wade vs LeBron/Chris Paul

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Join the rest of us in 2019

Big Shot Bob should unironically be in the Hall for his contributions to the game.

>tfw you'll never be the beneficiary of cronyism

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sup 2019
hello from the 2020's

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Knee Cola aint no center my guy

yes he is thats what centers do in euro ball

>09
Kobr/Wadr for sure. Kobe gives up some size to Lebron, but he's not totally out of his element. Wade more so but it isn't a steam roll. While Paul gets dunked on by either one. Lebron would be forced to defend on ball every possession and switch everything.

Fucking retards. Why the fuck do I come here when I feel dumber every time I read your posts

Who the fuck is you, ya little shithead

2009 was prime lebron I'm taking lebron

sleep on my thats tempurpedic

Wilt could block the unblockable shot

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God damn this general is dead as fuck

what is there to talk about?

His rookie season was nothing. Magic Johnson won a title his rookie season with Kareem injured. Larry Bird took a 20 win team to 60 wins and the ECF his rookie year.

1) MJ
2) Lebron
3) Kareem
4) Shaq
5) Hakeem
6) Russell
7) Duncan
8) Bird
9) Garnett
10) Curry

Luka a lock because he had a good rookie season, Trae not eligible despite having a better rookie year than Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, Chris Paul, Steve Nash. White people are retarded

>I'd be willing to give the natives a country of their own


tfw when you are so subhuman that retards still easily rule over you

this nigga using facetune lmao

acne scars, hope he went and saw a dermatologist the nigga has the money for it. Will change your life clearing up your skin

can we talk about how derrick white is going to fuck the league up soon enough and the spurs did it again

How do I make 2k not suck ass? Pretty much every game I am shooting 90% from the field and the cpu is shooting 60%+

I contest every shot on hall of fame but they make whatever they want even with a red contest, or if they miss or I tip the ball they get the ball right back in position for an easy layup or Ray Allen finals winning three

Basically every game is just back and forth scoring then I score at the end and win, not the least bit suspenseful. How do I make defense actually matter in this game? Even G league players can pull up off the dribble hand in the face as long as the shot clock is winding down

>ric_bucher
>Derrick White is being invited to LA when Team USA reconvenes there next week, a program official told me, which essentially means he has been promoted from the select practice squad to the World Cup roster. (Look for Marvin Bagley to be promoted as well.) One coach told me White was the best player on either team in the Day 2 scrimmages and on Day 3 I saw him damn near replicate that with my own eyes as the select squad played the World Cup squad to a draw in consecutive 10-minute scrimmages. With that, I owe one of my Twitter followers an apology. Last season he touted White as one of the league’s next superstars and I scoffed at the time; I thought he was good but I hadn’t seen anything that merited all that. I have now. He still has to develop a 3-pt shot but his vision and court savvy were on full display as he either hit guys even before they knew they were open or created space to get his own; all that with + defense if not ++ defense. As a Spurs beat writer said to me, “The Spurs found another one.” Indeed they have. Let’s be clear: this isn’t a star-studded camp and White is far from a finished product. But he has elements you can’t teach and the physical tools to utilize them. Do not be surprised if he is both on this summer’s World Cup squad AND next summer’s Olympic squad — in part because the program intends to go young with the team playing back-to-back summers, in part because White has been that good. If I sound hyped, it’s because I am. I love both surprises and players who dominate simply by seeing what’s there a half-second before everybody else. That’s DW.

the murray/white back court will be one of the best in the league next season. can't wait to enjoy it for a ful season until rich paul proceeds to fucking ruin it.

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Derrick White is good but the guy is already like 25

he should be

what's wrong with having a 25yo really good player. swear to god some people confuse this with 2k.

It is a “Spurs get a replacement level player/solid starter with a low pick and fans start fantasizing about which of Tony, Manu or Duncan he will become” episode, again.

Play 2k11

they can't keep getting away with this

draymond almost had a triple double in a game 7, if curry didnt choke with the behind the back pass and getting locked up by le depression man green was going to be finals mvp. he destroyed the blazers in the wcf this year.

you can dislike him all you want but hes a really good player.

There's nothing wrong with it, he's a good player and you should be happy to have him, but it's ridiculous to look at him the same way you would look at a 20-year-old who played the same way and expect him to progress into a superstar

yeah, they're going to put Dennis Rodman in the hall specifically because he was carried to a finals win but real hall of famers

Rodman was the best player on every team he played on

Kek

they made the playoffs for the first time in nearly 50 years faggot

>pointing out feats from 1 game 3 years ago as somehow evidence that he was good for his whole career

the man's shit. he has had 1 or 2 good finals games where he took a bunch of wide open shots because his team mates were getting double teamed and suddenly people overrate him. He averaged 10ppg when his team mates were steph curry and kevin durant

because he's not a scorer

He's an elite defender and very good playmaker

This will be the last basketball game I buy, sad to say. I did not intend to get this one but saw it for a $1 at a yard sale and could not resist

I love the cosmetic changes and I think that makes it impossible to go back to the old school, but the gameplay just feels like nobody designed it. If I have any big man over 6’9 that can shoot regardless of his rating I can beat any team, it is too easy to trick the CPU with pick and fades and by the time they adjust you can just pick and roll/post up and score every time since your player will have his takeover. When they bring the double just pass it, you can literally beat GS at full strength with rookie Mo Wagner/Zach Collins and vet minimum three and D players in this game.

Every game would be a 50+ pt blowout but the CPU seems to score by happenstance or through extremely tight defense every time, don’t leave Michael Kidd Gilchrist open for three either because he “knows his release” and can Green light it

Three thumbs down nigga

>If I have any big man over 6’9 that can shoot regardless of his rating I can beat any team, it is too easy to trick the CPU with pick and fades and by the time they adjust you can just pick and roll/post up and score every time since your player will have his takeover.

seems realistic

>points is the only thing that matters
he averaged almost a triple double with half his team out. youre a dumbass.

explain this shit

>He's an elite defender and very good playmaker

that's what everyone who sucks when I go to the y to play pickup says...

If only someone told Mehmet Okur NBA players will just leave a shooter open after he has converted 4+ threes wide open my Jazzies would have won the chip

how many DPOYs do the guys at the y have

Memo ruled

>it's ridiculous to look at him the same way you would look at a 20-year-old who played the same way and expect him to progress into a superstar
hol up hol up, that's just your assumption. white is very obviously a different case. his athleticism is what it is. his height is what it is. his peak is closer than it is for any other guy from his draft year.

but in terms of basketball education, he just finished his first full NBA season after a year in the g-league, and his growth over his first full year with the senior squad was impressive. there is no reason to believe his basketball mind will stop growing any time soon. physical age has nothing to do with that aspect of a player.

i posted the dumb ass ric bucher quote facetiously but there are several independent reports stressing he's anything but out of place playing along some of the best individual players in the league. that is his status quo as a physically complete and mentally still growing player. looking forward to his next steps.

He will tighten some things up for sure but the problem with Popovich rosters (if there is such a thing) is they are fully optimized, you get to the playoffs and try to hit the acceleration and they do not have anything else to give they are playing at peak level year round. White can probably eventually be the 3rd-4th best player on a contender, but Spurs will never get those number one and two guys with the 18th-30th pick

This place won't start picking up until September

Age curves are age curves. That's what it comes down to for me. I'm not saying that he completely is what he is, but he's close.

Again, he's a good player, I liked him in the draft, he's the kind of player that you want to have on your basketball team

After this offseason why would you even draft a 19-20 year old? Drafting a young kid is the ultimate and final cuck of the NBA.
>draft kid
>pay him millions
>takes a roster slot and play time from another player
>spend years developing him with your staff
>he signs the max and then demands a trade

Why dont other teams send out questionnaires to players like the Spurs? I am sure the Nets do since Marks is in the front office but still

The only issues they ever had with guys were Richard Jefferson, Dennis Rodman and Kawhi. Even then with Kawhi they got a title out of him despite him being malcontent, most franchises that lose a superstar wont get nearly that much.

Stephen Jackson as well. DeJounte Murray will probably leave if he gets too good.

it all depends on the kind of player you're talking about and the kind of situation you're in as a team

which reminds me, RJ Barrett is going to bust

>RJ Barrett is going to bust
Facts.

Yeah they had a few ghetto supercharged thugs (Jackson, Kawhi, Rodman) but they won with them for the most part rather than their franchise losing them for nothing which happens most often in these cases

Israeli apartheid

this is, one, racist and two, a purely insane thing to say about Kawhi

getting stuck with defrozen is worse than losing him for nothing.

You fell for my meme?

derozan is fine if you're just trying to make the playoffs not win a ring

or if he's like your third / fourth best player

> fourth best player
DeRozan will get that ring once his current contract is up and teams realize he's not a max player. He has that Iggy vibe.

Joe Johnson vibe more like

dude doesn't play defense

making the playoffs as an eighth seed every year is a waste.

maybe he can be a sixth man scorer, he doesnt play d or shoot 3s, iggy can play defence.

Iggy is valuable because he can play d still somehow and is still athletic a bit. Demar’s offense kind of bogs a team down, last year it looked like he could spread the floor a bit but Pop did not let him take any threes this last season and instead they’re playing boomer ball while everyone else is spraying up

>RJ Barrett

will be a bust only because it is Knicks

Derozan used to be known for his defense. What happened?

Can someone redpill me on JJJr’s rebounding woes?

He's never been known for defense retard, maybe only among people who thought Wiggins and Kobe weren't absolute turnstiles

Realized he could get more money just getting buckets, niggas don’t really watch the game like that and it is more difficult to quantify defense (his stats are only good cause he plays next to ___!)

So why bother? Defense is entirely reputation, people think Lebron sucks ass on D this year because of a few clips and for the longest people were telling me TJ Warren was solid on that end.

He had a high bust risk to begin with but playing on the Knicks on a roster full of pure bucket getters is like the worst possible scenario for him

my answer is, who gives a shit if he can rebound, they have Brandon Clarke for that

lebron hasnt played D since he joined the Heat

I hate LeBron but he does play D in the playoffs and it's high IQ not to waste effort in regular season

draymond has never been anywhere close to being the best player in the league. even if he was, congrats to him for being good at the least important aspect of basketball then.

Defense wins championships, next you will tell me Ben Wallace was a nothing ass player because he literally could not score

Ben Wallace was a nothing ass player because he literally could not score

DPOY is for the best defensive player in the league, not the best player in the league, hope this helps

you are just a fucking moron

ben wallace would be useless in todays game
as soon as he got within arms length of Harden its a foul

Call me crazy but I think the Wizards have a real shot this year. Beal is going to carry them to the east coast finals, screencap this post

Retards, aka 99.9% of NBA followers, believe in the illusion of marginal scoring ability

Beal will be All Nba with Jwall in the way

Ben Wallace is one of the best defensive players in the history of the league of course he'd still be good

They're literally the worst team in the NBA

He's like 55 years old you fucking brainlet of course he wouldn't be good

adam silver clearly stated the changed officiating to generate more offense.
that means no matter how good you are on defense you will be refballed until you are scored on.

maybe if they hadn't given away Otto Porter and Satoransky

I will never stop talking about how insane the Otto Porter trade was for Chicago and how 2/3 of the NBA should have tried to get in on that deal

no use pointing this out either since they don't know what marginal means

>Muh bad boys

You don't have to foul to play good defense

ie making a ben wallace type player useless as anything other than a 2nd string specialist in current year

but you do get to change the rules if defense is too effective.

Playing defense is harder overall, but teams are still better or worse at defense, and this still contributes to how likely they are to win a game

What you're saying literally doesn't make any sense

A 6 foot 7 forward that is equally effective guarding wings as he is not only big men but the greatest center in the last twenty years in a Finals series would have no use today?

What team won a title without elite defense? Shit half the starters on the Mavericks run (Kidd, Marion, Deshawn Stevenson) had limited scoring ability at that point in their career.

You really think Lebron scores 17ppg because he was dazzled by Terry, Barea and Dirk?

I'm pretty sure their owner panicked and just started giving assets away, going all in for a lottery pick after John Wall was kill. I think Hachimura will be a decent pro too, but it wasn't worth setting the franchise back a half decade imo

no it doesnt
ben wallace couldnt change a game by presence alone today.
most centers would score on him today due to him not being allowed to play physical and he wasnt fast enough to guard the modern power forward hanging out on the perimeter

He literally was dazzled by Barea though

never forget

Even then, at least try to get actual picks back! They got nothing!

the raptors and the warriors
draymond green is most overrated player of the 10s

Defenses are better now than ever. The Jew also legalized zone defense allowing teams to scheme much more effectively. Scoring has only increased because teams finally realized after 30 years that 3>2 and pace has gone up with less offensive rebounding and deeper bench rotations

there is no on court defense against this no matter how good you are

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that's why James Harden (objectively the best at taking advantage of fouls) has rolled to the last 3 titles and won easily

correlation != causation

james harden was literally the first example i used for a guy that ben wallace would be useless against

Still baffles me Ben Wallace had such good defense on Shaq, he looks like a child next to Drummond today he must have lost weight since retirement. As a Detroit nigga I remember this cat wearing headbands on his arms and shit

His strength would be an asset in any era

But if your argument is that Ben Wallace would be useless because rules changes make James Harden unstoppable, there's a certain problem to deal with in the fact that James Harden is objectively not unstoppable

Elite rim defense is essential against harden

at the very least you can plainly see that the people who are in control of the league are wanting to push for more offense and less defense.
if the correlation is indeed a fluke it doesnt matter, had offense not increased they would change even more rules to get the desired effect

James Harden got locked up by Johnathan Simmons, who had worked at a pizza shop two years prior, in an elimination game when Kawhi got injured. Simmons is by no means a stalwart defender, you are vastly overrating a guy who has never done anything when it mattered.

>at the very least you can plainly see that the people who are in control of the league are wanting to push for more offense and less defense.

I agree with this

it's the conclusion that you're drawing from this (defense literally doesn't matter at all) that is incorrect and insane

not nearly on the same level as

if anything, defense getting harder makes good defenders more valuable, not less

not the ben wallace style defense
none of that is allowed anymore
he would be greg monroe tier today

Will Iggy make the HoF? I'd say he should

what do you think "Ben Wallace style defense" is

ya know kids when you think about it the 1997 dunk contest was the Basketball equivalent of the September 11th terror attacks

eventually

Dennis Johnson is in, Sidney Moncrief is in, guys like that

defenders in the 90s (with the exception of Pippen) didn't know how to move laterally at all. instead of staying in front of their player they just fouled at the perimeter

lots of body checking that drains endurance of opponents but with low lateral speed.
Wallace first came to be known as elite defensively when he guarded Shaq on the Heat championship run. He just out muscled him, the same way he played against everybody. They dont allow those body blows anymore.

he finished second to gasol for DPOY.

pippen wasnt a great defensive player
he only shutdown trashcan players.

i witnessed the likes of Dan Majerle and Detlef Schrempf shit on Pippens defense regularly.

i recall watching a young jamal mashburn on the mavericks score about 20 in a row on pippen

the raptors had excellent defense in Lowry, Green, Kawhi, Ibaka, Gasol, and Siakam; Iggy, Klay, and Draymond are all great as well

funny way of spelling westbrook.

>you are not a good defender if you are scored on
Who is good at defense?

me Ive never been scored on in an nba game and had sick block in my little league ymca days

>Who is good at defense?

ron harper, dennis rodman, jordan(when he tried)
ron harper got all the toughest assignments during the 2nd 3peat
jordan and pippen just hung back and went for steals

in response, i say:
>kemba has been underpaid his entire career
>he had trash teammates and managed to keep them in the running for the 8 seed for most of the season
>jordan will offer garbage contracts to batum and others but not pay for actual talent (or sign actual talent)
>he made an all-nba team, so he qualifies for up to 220 mil
kemba isn't worth 220 mil, but he's worth more than 160

Correct, but not because DA JOOS DONT WANT DEFENSE. Defenders at the time relied on his style rather than movement. Lateral speed, IQ, and team defense make it more about finesse and athleticism than just a big body, which makes wing players especially more versatile
untrue. I'll allow that this past season he was at times lazy on D (not always, mind you. He played great defense when he gave it effort) , but that can be written off as load management of sorts -- he was carrying pretty much the entire offensive load by himself and until getting injured was playing a lot of minutes.

i think the batum deal is the reason why they are so hestitant to sign anybody else to a huge deal.
6fters and under typically become useless after 30

not including past players
CP3 is 34 and is listed at 6'0"
Kyle Lowry is 33 and listed at 6'1"
JJ Berea is still great off the bench imo, 35 and 6'1" but let's be real, he's gotta be 5'10"
kemba is about where they were imo

thats not that many

there are plenty of others that started drying up by age 30
isaih thomas/patrick mills/nate robinson/ty lawson etc etc

I'm pretty sure the Hampton 5 will get in

>spade for spade I’m the realest nigga out
What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

IT played HARD on an injury in 89 though, medicine is way better today plus not everybody would have had the heart to play like that but some do today (Kevon and Kevin)

I was at $10k few months ago, then I got a new 2019 car.
Now I’m at $10k again.
Who here /bigballer/

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i meant the other IT that was good on the celtics

Oh no wilt would be out matched with these 6 foot players!

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Just got laid the fuck out by a car at work; l feel okay just shaky but I am always that way. Do I need to see a doctor or should I be fine?

Zach Lavine is cooking me on 2K

he cant go to his left

You need to go after your work’s insurance. It’s a work related injury, and you could probably use your sick hours.

dumbass

The Knicks should sign Melo for a farewell tour.

Which super cool team will find a roster spot for super cool Beas to let him sit out his suspension

that's one element of his game, and it was necessary playing on the block against guys like Shaq, but it's not the only aspect of his game on defense, and it's simply inaccurate to say that he had low lateral speed. Wallace had great agility and incredible defensive instincts in addition to his strength, and those things would have allowed him to be a great defensive player in any era.

Wallace had finesse, in addition to sheer power. He did not have a big body, he was like 6 foot 8. Would he have been a switch-every-position type of guy, no, of course not, but he would still be an elite rim protector and help defender. and he probably wouldn't have been ridiculous in switches, either

this stuff is ridiculous

A year ago I said JJJr's floor was Ibaka. Ibaka's career rebounding #s are pretty mediocre, but the reason for that is because he's a stretch 4 on offense and a shot blocker/big who can switch onto the perimeter on defense. It's hard to get rebounds when your game pulls you away from the basket most of the time.

beal on the way

Just took a big Lonzo...

Kevon Looney is a beast. Underrated as fuck

anyone here got a white girl yet?

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I filed a claim thanks bro

My starting line up in 2k MyLeague

Zach Lavine
Fred Hoidberg
Kyle Anderson
Lauri Markannen
Jaren Jackson Jr

Mo Wagner
Raul Neto
Marco Belleneli
Frank Jackson

Off the bench all elite

Who can stop us?

i made two of them

Fact: Looney is an above-average rotation player that few people would give a shit about if he wasn't on the Warriors, a team which has no depth and so having an above-average role player is disproportionately valuable to them.

Bit like Dellavedova on that championship Cavs team.

Delly was below average he just had one shining game in a series that ultimately meant nothing (Lebron was so inefficient due to having to carry the entire scoring and facilitating load he was not able to have a legendary performance like 2016). Horrible the entire rest of his career, no idea what voodoo he pulled on the Bucks former/Magic GM

I guess it could be a good team in 3 years if Markannen and Jaren Jackson become your 1st and 2nd options. Zach Lavine isn't built to be a 1st option. You need to have a solid 3 go to scoring options that can put up 20 a game if they need to.

clutchpoints.com/warriors-news-kevon-looney-will-play-against-lavar-ball-in-charity-game/

Holy shit bros...

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>who can stop us
Patrick Beverly
Seth Curry
Luka Doncic
K. Porzingis
Dwight Powell

jalen brunson
hardaway jr
justin jackson
mitch robinson

Zach is only here because I matched a very fair offer sheet from the 76ers, I am thinking when he is our first option averaging 20ppg Philly will give us a future first and Covington/Saric and Bayless expiring for him and a few vets
Kek

Kyle Anderson
Hoidberg
Markannen
Mo Wagner
JJJr

Death lineup, pick your poison

these niggas like nikes....

>4 5 dollar scratchers
>shit beer
>regular flavored swishers that youll probably smoke instead of gutting

fuck is wrong with you

Wish I had some pot but can not find a connect since my last went to jail; fuck GA

Melo should've gotten a call-up to team USA. prove me wrong.

lmao @ ur life senpai

they didnt want the distraction

Lil Nas X is literally gay

>other generals have sloots in their OPs
>/nba/ always has gay shit
need to start posting the LAKER GUURLZ every OP

i reckon we should have Taylor Rooks or Kristen Ledlow in every OP

>Lil Nas X - Old Town Road(literally gay version) ft. Hannah Montana's dad

Someone post that one pic of Stephanie

this is /nba/
if you don't like gay shit then you should gtfo

I get to go to work tomorrow!

Dellavedova has really never been an above-average rotation player outside of one series

also, being an above-average rotation player is not really an insult, every team needs multiple above-average rotation players

just go to a porno site if you want to jack it

/nba/ is for ball talk

Candidate? Carmelo will be first ballot hof, even if you remove his intl accolades.

what does the nba have against young teams with great potential? why must they always break them apart before they can mature?

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me too

these kikes havent had new hairstyles since 2007, now finally new ones are for trashcan wnba players

didnt cry today

Looks like my nigga Jaylen Brown still can't dribble the ball without tripping over himself.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nba-predictions/

the sixers are overrated, they might be the favourite in the east but being the favourite by that much is absurd.

>nate coal

He somehow has the Clippers ending up with LESS wins than last season. They should break 53 easy

He's from New London. Like all of us, he misses the Whale.

What have you won for me lately mentality.

>I interned at FS1 and worked as a production assistant with Skip & Shannon. Shannon's obsession with LeBron is beyond creepy. His phone lock screen is a selfie that he took with LeBron who he "just happened" to meet randomly in LA one afternoon. He has me print out (like literally print out on paper) any of his Instagram posts that LeBron likes which he will then framed and hang in his office which is adorn with LeBron merchandise and memorabilia. I get the feeling that he's not tight with LeBron but he's tight with people in his inner circle. He'll be on the phone with somebody asking what LeBron had for lunch and shit. Then he'll literally beg for a Space Jam 2 cameo. It's fucking creepy.

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I assume because they have time clocks to win before the window closes

new thread

wtf is on his fucking neck?? please respond

>that thot on the right
You just know they were running trains and tearing her asshole apart.

By going undefeated in the 55 games Kawhi averages per season?