>Kovalev = HYPEJOB (rekt by a blown up SMW) >Shabranskyy = HYPEJOB (rekt by a 60 year old cuban refugee) >Lomachenko = HYPEJOB (lost to a literal uber driver) >Vitali Klitschko = HYPEJOB (rekt by a senile Lennox Lewis) >Wladimir Klitschko = HYPEJOB (humiliated by a fat gypsy and rekt by a bodybuilder) >Postol = HYPEJOB (humiliated by Crawford) >GGG = HYPEJOB (drew with Floyd Mayweathers left overs)
The absolute STATE of Eastern European """""""""""Fighters""""""""""""
Ethan Miller
lmao if you think usyk has a chance to be a top contender at hw
Lets get this thread back on track bois. Who won the Canelo vs. GGG fights? Let me guess, you think lil G won?
Easton Young
GGG won the first one, Canelo won the second one.
Justin Robinson
GGG undoubtedly won the first. 2nd fight I wouldn't have been upset with either winning. GGG landed more, but Canelo obviously landed the harder punches.
Nolan Gray
why do Eastern Europeans cause such transcendental asspain among Mexican-Americans? how could this be?
Juan Watson
Why was Dillian Whyte allowed to box if he tested positive before the fight? Does it mean the test was taken before the fight but it wasn't finished until after (though it says he was cleared to fight by a panel). Or does it mean they just didn't want to call it off that close?
Samuel Ward
No I heard it was because the b sample couldn't be tested quickly enough so either they called it off with a chance of getting sued if it came back negative or let him fight and risk getting sued by Rivas
Jackson Phillips
Eddie pulling strings
Colton Moore
>using memes in /box/ OP Someone make a new one please
>Jean Pascal why is he fighting? wasnt he hurt real bad in his last fight?
Christian Clark
It's a good fight but Derevyanchenko would absolutely lose to GGG even now. Derevyanchenko is just a little short of being an elite fighter and hasnt been active enough
Manny Pacquiao should be the #1 in the welterweight. Box rec has Crawford as #1. Manny has beat so many legends and young fighters from this era and he still doesn't get the respect he deserves
Carter Moore
delphin person
Brandon Bell
>Manny has beat so many legends and young fighters from this era and he still doesn't get the respect he deserves That was a long time ago. Thurman is his best win in years.
Charles Cooper
Who keeps telling this nigga he still has a chance?
Terrcan Crushford is boxrec number 1 because he took all Jeff Horn’s points he got from beating Pac
Christopher Miller
Had a dream Joe Joyce got dropped and waved off when his legs wobbled as he stood up. Actually thought it was real until looking up his record. how comes boxing only gives me livid dreams like this
Thurman win for Manny is way better than any win Bud has at welter.
Hudson James
eddie hearn will be bullied out of the sport within the next 2-3 years.
Adrian Watson
he always has the UK though , so no he wont
Kayden Gray
Wasn't Canelo fighting Mayweather at 22 while Ababiy is having to go all the way with bums?
Nathaniel Anderson
I miss boxinglegendstv lads I know he put out a video 3 weeks ago but it was 7 months before that. Sure he baits with butterbean v tyson pics but his videos are entertaining
Who does the UK have tho? The roiding bodybuilder got exposed and humiliated, Shyte has been caught roiding. And Lomachenko seems ready to knock out another brit bum
Cooper Wood
Cheeseman
Ryder Bailey
Lil Saul went pro at 15 years old and fought Tijuana cab drivers till he was like 20. Ababiy just went pro last year
kell brook v golovkin without the broken orbital. Tunde will throw in the towel to protect his guy.
Parker Cooper
right to the ICU for a little catnap
Owen Collins
even though i think yarde is shit, kov got KOd by alvarez who he is clearly much better than. i've got a bad feeling yarde will stop him even though hes not that good and we have to hear LIONS IN DA CAMP for about 3 years unil he takes another hard fight
Hudson Thompson
Yarde hasn’t fought a non-journeyman and has shown defensive weaknesses, he’s going to get massacred
Dominic Flores
in fairness look at ritson and cheeseman better off skipping a level and getting beat for 7 figures than getting exposed by random eu fighter. Cheeseman might be permanently ruined.
Lucas Perez
Alvarez isn't a random bum. plus this will be a Homecoming for Kovalev, he'll want to impress
Jaxon Williams
Kov turns up drunk, gets hurt to the body immediately, a new Warren Boxing Organisation reign of terror begins
Aaron Scott
i know he isn't but kov has hardly been stellar recently. chance is he got old
John Butler
more like he'll party before the fight with his russian friends get hammered before the fight... and still win
Ian Kelly
he got caught with one good shot and then dominated the rematch handily
Jose Jenkins
Lets just say, hopefully Yarde is the kind of guy that fights to the level of his opponents. Cause he hasn't shown anything that would lead me to believe he has a chance against the plumbers he's been beating.
Liam Peterson
somehow dwyer will talk himself into picking yarde.
Carlos Baldomir argentinian retired boxer jailed for raping his own underage daughter.
Luke Cooper
what the fuck is wrong with white men?
Wyatt Richardson
*Spics
Adrian Miller
No other welter has a better win, this gen is a joke
Levi Baker
>Warren Boxing Organization Kek
David Martin
fucking hell, intense Canelos best knockout
Joseph Torres
>not getting his joke
Liam Diaz
The way Baldomir boxed reminds me of street boxing when I grew up in Argentina. Very thuggish looking, ghetto shit. Dude was probably born a criminal, not surprising he does some stupid shit and ends up in jail.
Aaron Rivera
Arhentina is white!!!!!
Carter Flores
Because size trumps insane skills, right?
Eli Wright
Depends on the size difference 2bh
Anthony Evans
Ruiz AJ looked like a really stupid size difference but when the bigger guy is a stiff chinlet it doesn't matter. Fury is skilled and has a great chin and Wilder has stupid long range power throughout 12 rounds. Those two are really hard for Usyk, he can beat everyone else IMO. Lots will probably try to be really dirty against him and idk how he's gonna react.
Blake Harris
I don't see Usyk winning a title at HW. The top fighters are just too big and hit too hard.
Lincoln Flores
Ruiz is heavier and stronger than AJ, he was just shorter
Easton Morris
Are today's HWs bigger than HWs from the 90s?
Colton Reed
yes, Big George Foreman is only 6ft3, he's a manlet
Austin Nelson
He is definitely smaller. Shorter reach, smaller frame, a lot shorter in height. Heavier cause he has 65+ pounds of pure fat. I don't think he actually punches harder either, he just has a better chin and better combinations and speed.
My point is Usyk is similar in size to Ruiz, and way more accomplish since both were young. I'd pick Usyk if he fought Joshua. Wouldn't know who to pick between Ruiz and Usyk.
Jayden Murphy
>I don't think he actually punches harder either Cazzie
Jack Scott
boxinglegends is a fraud, it isn't him actually talking in the videos
Jordan Clark
what kind of retarded question is that
Logan Murphy
First half of the 90's yes.
Henry Sullivan
AJ had same KO ratio as Wilder, fighting better opposition. Ruiz had a lower KO ratio fighting much worse opposition than AJ. There is literally nothing at all pointing towards Rui mz having better power other than AJ couldn't take his punches while Ruiz could. Chin was the difference and AJ has always been a chinlet.
Christian White
Turbo cazzie
Adrian Gonzalez
lookin thicc
Jordan Long
>I make up things with no evidence if you disagree youre a casual Please, it's been a while since AJ was officially outed as a chinlet and a heartlet, get over your bitterness already.
Jackson Cooper
KO ratio ≠ power
Aiden James
>AJ had same KO ratio as Wilder, fighting better opposition When he actually stepped up his opposition he stopped getting KO's. AJ's ko's come from the fact he could size bully the shit out of plodder bums. AJ also weigh's in the 250's regularly. Ruiz weighed 268 against Joshua. I don't think there's much difference in their power.
Ryder Martin
who is the bigger fraud between oluwafemi and monguia?
Gabriel Butler
Parker would unironically take out Usyk in three rounds.
Juan Torres
parker confirmed that ruiz hit him a lot harder than joshua ever did, but yeah it's interesting because ruiz/usyk fast hands could be the first to throw tyson fury out of his comfort zone just like how cunningham did.
the heavyweight division is seriously a rock paper scissors division now with ruiz and usyk thrown in there
Connor Gomez
Are you really gonna fucking tell me Ruiz is heavier than AJ with a straight face? Again, Ruiz had easily 65 pounds of fat, probably up to 90. AJ was pure lean muscle. AJ had at least 50 pounds difference of pure muscle. How dense can you be? Literally look at them. Prince Naseem weights about 200 pounds now. Is he bigger than Usyk and Bellew?
Benjamin Powell
>Ruiz is heavier than AJ with a straight face >Ruiz had easily 65 pounds of fat, probably up to 90. AJ was pure lean muscle. AJ had at least 50 pounds difference of pure muscle. How dense can you be? Literally look at them.
What weighs more, 1 ton of bricks or 1 ton of feathers?
Benjamin Clark
I know, but denying AJ has power is pretty silly. Look at Povetkin and Klitschko fights.
Also, if Ruiz is the better boxer with faster hands AND has more power... Then KO ratio starts feeling weird. I could understand a lesser boxer with more power having a lower KO ratio. But better boxer, better power and fighting literally whos with lower KO ratio? How do you make sense out of that? What is the argument in your favor other than I say so?
Benjamin Wood
power is a lot more than muscle
power is force x displacement/time
force is mass x acceleration
if the fatman can move faster, which he indeed does with his punches, he 100% has more power than AJ as he has more mass accelerates it faster as well
Aside from Fury, none of the heavyweights have good enough footwork to keep up with him imo. I do agree though, if they land it's probably over..
Michael Bell
Weigh the same but muscle + size gives you more strength and power than a 40 pound belly and little arms. If it didn't matter you'd see fat lightweights fight at welter with no issues. Obviously fat and muscle are not the same.
Grayson Martin
You're not talking to a toddler here dude. Obviously power isn't all about muscles, that doesn't mean Inoue hits harder than a 7ft bodybuilder.
Again, what's the argument on favor of Ruiz hitting harder? Fought lesser opponents and didn't knocked them out often or impressively. Is AJ that good a boxer he could KO better guys moe often? Clearly not the case.
Nathaniel Scott
Parker sucks
only HW that can beat Usyk is Fury
Samuel Wright
>Are you really gonna fucking tell me Ruiz is heavier than AJ with a straight face? >AJ also weigh's in the 250's regularly. Ruiz weighed 268 against Joshua. Based ESL poster.
You're wrongly associating KOs directly to power of which there is no doubt fatty has more of it. Catching people off guard, having a better reach to angle punches better, and sometimes punching down can facilitate getting knockouts more than being short and stubby having to punch upwards. Andy Ruiz doesn't cut angles very well because of his size and doesn't have much of a surprise or angle to it outside of a brawl.
Matthew Carter
Ruiz for a long time had problems with training and maintaining a good conditioning. That's why his career stalled out for a while. Not that user and I don't care who hits harder but this is a weird hill to die on. AJ probably doesn't hit much harder than other hard hitting heavyweights like whyte and ortiz.
Landon Thomas
Heavier as in bigger, stronge dear tard.
Blake Miller
That fight was great, no one gave Prescott a chance.
Daniel Brooks
Spence against Brook
Brandon Hernandez
>allegations made by ex-wife really makes me think
Oliver Watson
Joshua for sure. Munguia we all know loses against every single top 154 and 160 fighter, but a lot of you niggas actually thought G String could beat Wilder and Fury
Leo Davis
>of which there is no doubt fatty has more of it. Relative to their sizes? Yeah. Considering AJs arms are twice those of Ruiz, but if you were to measure who could hit a harder punch AJ would probably come out on top.
You're also not considering that often fighters with good power might have a not so great KO ratio, but fighters without power will never be multiple time champs with 90%+ KO ratios. Name me once that ever happened. If you see a guy with 3+ belts fighting top 10 guys regularly with 90% KO ratio it clearly isn't just catching people of guard from his height, he clearly has to have a good punch or it would never happen. You're underestimating AJs power for no reason.
Xavier Price
Was AJ beating Klitschko actually a fluke?
Jordan Turner
Just now remembered that this dude was drugged and robbed after the Canelo fight by some thots. Hope Kovalev avenged him
Owen Morales
>He moves so fast it's like he's just standing there! It's an afterimage!
Asher Gonzalez
Nigga was nearly knocked out. He's lucky Klit took his foot off the gas
Christopher Price
>Relative to their sizes? Yeah. Considering AJs arms are twice those of Ruiz, but if you were to measure who could hit a harder punch AJ would probably come out on top.
You just correlated mass to power again forgetting about acceleration and displacement, and when did anyone say AJ didn't hit hard, we're saying Ruiz hits harder. Height is very significant for getting through guards with counters, when you protect your head with your shoulders punching a taller opponent with more reach, he can simply punch over it and still hit your head
Mass is very important in terms of power and the main reason why weight divisions even exist. If we were to weight Joshua's arms against Ruiz, or their hands, you'd see Ruiz would need an absolutely absurd amount of acceleration to match his power.
No one here has that webm of Ruiz battering the blonde dude around the ring? Hitting him with like 10+ clean power punches and not dropping him? Just watch more Ruiz fights dude. AJ would never not be able to stomp someone after landing so many Clean punches.
Aaron Garcia
Cant wait for that twink to get KO'd
Alexander Sanchez
Tank would do it
Grayson Harris
youtu.be/iiBMF0YNwks Our nothern brothers may fail but we wont Box will be taken the same way we took heem
Easton Reed
I still think joshua has a chance against wilder and maybe even fury. he could knock wilder out before he gets caught himself, wilder is open to get hit and joshua is a good finisher, wilder doesn't go wild like ruiz did when he got hurt he'd try to tie AJ up
Go read jack Dempsey's book, it explains the physics for babbys on how smaller people can hit harder than bigger people.
If you actually gave a shit about this instead of being a thick skull about it is suggest researching it more rather than spouting off what "makes sense" to you from lack of understanding. There is a journal out there that shows how boxers ended up having very similar power in the lower divisions and it wasn't until heavyweight that mass started to have more of an impact on power (hint hint, they're slower)
Ryan Wood
Yeah, he's definitely up there, but when I think of him I think of the 90s. There doesn't seem to be anyone that can compare to the likes of Naz, Benn, Eubank etc. That has to be the worst stoppage I've ever seen. Cringe every time.
Cameron Morris
wilder fanboys scared to debate me
Dylan Diaz
Haye
Zachary Stewart
>8-year-old daughter >18 years in prison >he's 48
He's fucked.
Tyler Adams
CTE is a beast for sure
Samuel Garcia
all HW's have a chance against eachother, thats what Wilder/Fury and Ruiz/Joshua proved. none of them are head and shoulders above the rest
Andrew Davis
>if you don't agree you're thick headed Evidence is literally on my side. Anyone AJ has hit clean with a big shot has gone down. The same can absolutely not be said about Ruiz. Ruiz has landed very many bombs on people who just did not go down. On top of higher KO ratio against higher opposition. There's no argument in your favor other than >theoretically a smaller man COULD hit harder than a much bigger man Yes, it's possible, doesn't mean it's true. There's a long way from possible to true, especially when circumstancial evidence points towards the oppossite. Again, you haven't given me a single reason or argument as to why Ruiz hits harder yet. You just "know" so you try to justify and explain how it is plausible. Look more Ruiz fights or highlights if you're lazy. Clean hard punches that don't bring the (generally a bum) opponent down is something you will see over and over again.
Jonathan Reed
My gf says I care more for /box/ than her
Henry Perez
Not hard since you dont have a gf
Ian Diaz
Baldomir getting his ticket punched was one of the funniest things in that whole decade of boxing
I don't know if I;d say it was a fluke but Klitshko lost the fight, as opposed to AJ winning it by being a big poofter and not going after him after the KD
Xavier Bell
>>theoretically a smaller man COULD hit harder than a much bigger man Except it's not theoretically, the laws of physics, what you're suggesting is literally based on nothing but your own perception.
You dont know wtf you're talking about, here let's do a simple fucking test, smack your chin with a closed hand gently downwards and then upwards and figure out which one rattles the back of your head more. Again, talk less and read more.
That's my last (you) on this subject until you source something beyond yourself
Jaxon Gray
new eddie hearn kino out. already sent the missus and the kids to bed and turned the kettle on
Brandon Wright
based wish your boy luck against DC
Jayden James
I hope you told them it's Eddie time before you sent them to bed.
Caleb Johnson
Get the fuck out of /box/
Henry Gomez
will he be broadcasting his suicide on PPV?
Cameron Rodriguez
'no.' I watch both but I would never go near the autism general
Parker Foster
To be fair, I do watch both too. I get frustrated with all that holding against the cage shit though. Masvidal is pretty based though
Elijah Thompson
>what you're suggesting is literally based on nothing but your own perception No, I base it on evidence. I can watch videos of AJ knocking the fuck out of people and Ruiz slowly tearing bums down with a bunch of power shots.
You have never given a single argument as to why Ruiz punches harder. Not one. Proving someone is capable of something doesn't mean he has done that thing. You'd be a fucking awful lawyer. What you're saying is if someone doesnt have an aliby to where he's been he is guilty. That's stupid. Why Ruiz hits harder? You haven't answered that question once and you already given up on the conversation. I can tell you why AJ hits harder, just look at the fucking tape.
Christian Roberts
Ruiz hits with the force of 1000 burritos
Matthew Morales
Try not being black
Robert Ross
i fuck your wife in your bed.
Isaiah Harris
*sees a boxing news post on FB* Israelites are spreading
>Boxing cazzies arguing whether Joshua hits harder than Ruiz.
>Me laughing at zoomers who have obviously never stepped in a gym other than to get an autograph and offer a blowie.
The real answer is, AJ hits harder, but Ruiz's speed and precision allows him to land punches his opponents dont expect, which are the most likely to land flush and produce a KO.
Noah Wood
He's not the only one apparently. A seething brit was also saying the same thing. If they had to chose between getting hit by either guy once realistically I'm pretty sure they'd change their tune.
Lucas Rogers
the real repell is, they both hit pretty hard and the difference in their power barely matters at all
William Cruz
Time to live the single life my fren
Nathaniel Moore
box office debut lmao
Kayden Reyes
>Opponents tries to counter your left with a left hook two times in less than 20 seconds. >Get knocked out by a left hook.
Lmao, it's like he's asking for it. Khan porcelain chin is actually a blessing in disguise if he had GGG's chin he'd take far more punishment, getting knocked out so quickly protects him from CTE.
He is simply not a buff guy you can see it in the ring, he is ripped but lanky. There are way too many tricks you can do in photography and instawhores are experts at them.
What he says is probably true, when you don't have a promoter and you get robbed it's on a shitty venue somewhere and no one ever finds out. If you have a decent promoter it's on TV and everyone can see you deserved that win and you don't get fucked over as much. He fought Eubzs in a week or two notice and was doing well until he gassed. So many fighters we don't know about probably get fucked over.
Gabriel Sullivan
Why is chin important for boxers? Bigger jaw = stronger?
Wyatt King
Shout "EASY WORK"! Dap em up and run a train on my bitch.
Ian Jenkins
pretty sure nose is more important
t. froch o maniac.
Juan Nelson
i'm starting to think the chi/spic jerks it to Loma. Its literally 24/7 with this faggot. Why did you guys even entertain this thread.
Ryder Green
Yea Forums I wanna be a pro boxer. When I'm on TV winning the championship I'll give you guys a shoutout
Grayson Murphy
The other thread was made too late
James Jackson
i hope you win a world title and you have somebody else to thank
Gigantic hands. He looks small next to Joshua, but he's still a big guy.
Ryder Wilson
Joshua is a just framelet roiding to compensate
Evan Torres
I just got home. You could probably be a halfway decent poster if you weren't so fucking gay for eastern euros
Logan Robinson
Sure you did faggot. Wasn't me who created the thread, it was the butthurt Lomaslurper trying to imitate me. inb4: >"Y-y-yeah, s-sure it was a-an autistic L-Lomaslurper. A-All of the L-Loma f-fans are levelheaded a-a-and would never be p-petty and shit up the t-t-thread"
So Canelo takes $35M maximum a fight, as long as he fights DAZN approve fighters. If Canelo chooses, otherwise, he takes less money. Good to know, thought he made $35M regardless of who he fights.
Guess GGG is froze out. Unless his contract is different, in which case he could just fight all the Rolls he wants.
Justin Peterson
>Unless his contract is different, in which case he could just fight all the Rolls he wants. Well I think the main objective for them is to get him and Saul to fight at least once, and he'll retire when the time is right. . So I don't think they're too worried about his opponents
Logan Kelly
Damn Canelo willing to do anything to not fight GGG again wonder why huh really makes ya think really gets the noggins joggin
Kevin Foster
because he only fights twice a year and wants as much legacy as possible which is why he went for kovalev, fighting ggg again wouldn't benefit him very much
Jordan James
So much back and forth from both sides, though. GGG doesn't want to fight in Vegas. DAZN loses a lot of money if that happens. Canelo doesn't want to fight GGG and wants legacy fights since he's worried about his knee. If that fight doesn't happen, DAZN loses a lot of subs.
With so much money, they should've had "water tight" contacts where the fighters have no say. Like Kalle with the WBSS.
Austin Hall
1. If he wanted to, he can fight more than twice. 2. He was never serious on Kovalev which is why he low balled him and made negotiations difficult 3. He hasn't beaten Golovkin decisively, so doing so in a third fight would indeed benefit him very much
GGG also won the second one but this board is practically Mexico you won't find many people who agree lmao.
Joshua Ortiz
andy just said the fight isn't happening in the uk
eddie btfo
Ian Johnson
Mike Tyson was so based when he was young but now he has turned into a senile spliffing moron. He actually pisses me off now.
But man.. I don't think most people try to put themselves into his position when he was young. Imagine being such a famous HW champion at the age of 21. There was no one on this planet who didn't know/want him. No one can handle that, especially if it happens that quickly.
Landon Hall
To be fair, Tyson is currently tripping his balls off on 5-MeO-DMT
HOW CAN YOU HONESTLY DEFEND THIS LEVEL OF DUCKING?
David James
You mean beating the guy he robbed twice doesnt do anything?
Gabriel Mitchell
>Ducking a guy you beat twice ?????
Ayden Bailey
Lol they always do that fucking mayo cucks. They did the same thing with de la Hoya lol
Henry Moore
Bumlovkin fans are getting desperate. They kept calling Canelo a duck for not fighting Lil' G as soon as he beat Cotto, and then he went on to fight him twice (Won twice) and somehow they're still crying "D-d-duck!!!". Hilarious.
Henry Williams
Don’t argue with these retards. They’re the same ones who say loma is P4P lol. They also said Ruiz was going to lose and Mikey Garcia is a BUM!
Grayson Howard
I hope the Farmer vs. JoJo fight happens. I feel like JoJo is going to mop the floor with him.
Julian Morris
Naw russel is still hunting his dreams
Christopher Thompson
>GRJ
This guy rarely fights I barely remember him. He shit talked Haymon, I wonder who he's going to next.
Nathaniel Nelson
well al haymon fighters always ducking each other
Jordan Cooper
Spics in denial
Jonathan Wright
When aren't they
Lucas Jones
in denial of what small dick kazah fag?
Aiden Jones
Slavaboos
Nathaniel White
>spic >nigger >wh*toid You guys are such raging homosexuals
ruiz said in the joe rogan podcast that when he was training with abel sanchez he was trining himself. All abel did was wrote on a piece paper on what to do LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no wonder he lost the parker fight.
LOOK HOW FUCKING MAD RUIZ IS!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sanchez probably didn't believe in him because he was a fatty
Henry Hill
I remember reading about this back when he was in Abel's gym. To be fair, it was meant to help ruiz lose weight and Abel's training is notoriously tough. I think ruiz just didn't want to deal with it like kovalev.
Brandon Jenkins
>Abel's training is notoriously tough yet they lose fights lol
Austin Carter
Abel is probably the worst trainer ever. It's a crime what he has been doing to Gassiev.
>Gassiev fighting Usyk >Gassiev losing >"You are losing,you gotta do something" >Canelo robs GGG >"I dont think we got robbed"
Sebastian Baker
you can say that of literally any popular trainer
Noah Moore
This nigga just replied to himself
Matthew Gutierrez
>plees Mauricio, protect me from Golobkeen and dee lions. Teenk about muy bebe dooter Maria
literally what fucking angle is this? how do you fraud a straight 180 degree.
Jonathan Williams
>>Wladimir Klitschko = HYPEJOB (humiliated by a fat gypsy and rekt by a bodybuilder) To be honest he was coming out of retirement and was old, the 2 brothers fucking took over the division in their prime >GGG = HYPEJOB (drew with Floyd Mayweathers left overs) Current canelo would probably be different (i think he would have a shot) vs floyd that 2013 canelo
Can we agree that if Nelo wins FOTD he'd be without a doubt the weakest FOTD in history.
David Davis
August...the off-season for boxing. It’s been an incredible 2019, full of huge fights. Let’s hope these warriors rest well after being so active.
John Gonzalez
He already won one. Can a FOTD win twice? Not to mention he has too many losses to be considered. Yeah I know two were robberies but he did get kod by JMM and lost to Floyd. If he was able to squeeze in Spence into this decade and miraculously beat him then yea he definitely deserves it.
Canelo is a fraud that lost to GGG twice and Lara as well.
Mayweather has been retired for half the decade but has the two best wins but idk if that's enough.
I can see Andre Ward, but he's retired and there's no reason to shill him over Canelo.
Austin Peterson
Thank you Eddie, very cool
Blake Sanders
This decad Manny has beaten >Clottey >Magarito >Mosley >JMM >Bradley 3 times (fuck judges) >Vargas >Horn (Fuck Judges) >Matthysse >Broner >Thurman
name anyone with a better resume, his 3 wins over Bradley alone are better than 95% of resumes
Jordan Thompson
Terrible idea, Papachenko only trained Usyk and Lomachenko professionally, two technicians who had an extensive amateur career he built from the beginning. Gassiev is a late starter animal with less than 30 amateurs fight.
And he Papachenko probably speaks neither Russian or English.
If he plans to stay at Cruiserweight, Sanchez is fine tho it might get really tricky against Briedis or Okolie. For heavyweight he'll need an orthodox coach who can teach responsible defense, can't see anyone desu.
Adrian Williams
this is actual cope
Andrew Adams
I will say Manny deserves a nod if not for at least making history with 3 records. 8 division champion, 5x lineal champion, and oldest WW champion in history. That's actually pretty impressive and that alone should at least put him in the running.
Julian Hughes
sanchez is a good trainer for him but maybe Wards trainer would be better, he needs to learn how to fight on the inside. That much power even a little hook on the inside would be enough to end it
Grayson Watson
Floud beat all the other candidates
Luke Clark
>Terrible idea, Papachenko only trained Usyk and Lomachenko professionally If you actually watched enough Gassiev fights you would know that the only thing Gassiev lacks is amateur experience. He can't deal with people who have a high output. >And he Papachenko probably speaks neither Russian.. Lmao, French education. You do realize that Papachenko is 54 years old and grew up in the USSR, right?
Jaxson Hughes
>Clottey Can >Magarito Impressive perf, bit of a can >Mosley Shot >JMM Slept the filipino flop in their next fight, close fight too >Vargas When was he ever relevant ? >Horn Horn won that fight for me, close fight could go either way. >Matthysse "If he hits hard he isn't a can" >Broner lel
That leaves us with Thurman and Bradley.
Alexander Cox
Floyds 2010's resume is not good >Victor Ortiz >Robert Guerrero >Maidana twice >Berto >Conor fucking Mcgregor All bums
Ryder Williams
I cant wait for you to start making excuses why Floyds wins arn't against cans
Josiah James
Don't take it personally kraut.
>If you actually watched enough Gassiev fights you would know that the only thing Gassiev lacks is amateur experience. He can't deal with people who have a high output.
Yeah and how getting in camp with an old amateur trainer will change that ? Having Usyk as a sparring partner maybe.
Papachenko is currently training two of the best pound for pound guy with really similar style, him and Gassiev style does not match.
>Lmao, French education. You do realize that Papachenko is 54 years old and grew up in the USSR, right? Valid point, were they taught russian in school ?
Aiden Rivera
cotto canelo and pacquiao
Christopher Bailey
>Cotto Flushed, Manny beat him in 09 >Canelo Weight drained and green >Pac On arm, tore his rotator cuff
Floyd is a bum
Luis Moore
>On arm, tore his rotator cuff
"Dog ate my homeworks sir."
Carson James
>Sources tell @TheAthleticBOX that a fight between Ryan Garcia and Romero Duno is being discussed for the fall on DAZN. @StevESPNKim reported that Garcia’s next fight could take place Sept. 14 in Carson, California. The Ryan Garcia meme ends here if the fight happens, Romero Duno sleeps him. But Garcia and GB will duck it
Blake Hernandez
Floyd beats fighter over 30 >t-too old!! Floyd beats fighter under 30 >t-too young!! Cope
Caleb Morris
Seeth harder Floydfag
Noah Sanders
>>Papachenko is currently training two of the best pound for pound guy with really similar style, him and Gassiev style does not match. Dude, trainers train all kinds of fighters with different styles. The point is, Gassiev needs footwork. He is too static which happens quite often to people with little amateur experience.
>Valid point, were they taught russian in school ? Yes. There's no ex USSR fag older than 25 who doesn't speak Russian.
Connor Nelson
Gassiev will be just fine even with that fraud Abel. His power will carry up more than Usyk’s. The average cruiserweight is more skilled and mobile than stiff idiot heavyweights.
Bentley Hughes
>Dude, trainers train all kinds of fighters with different styles. The point is, Gassiev needs footwork. He is too static which happens quite often to people with little amateur experience.
Trainer often take anyone, believing that they'll make the best out of any guy they have, but sometime there's just no match and rare are the trainer able to train effectively two extremely different fighter. Some guys just get confused when they try to learn too much too quickly, look at Joyce hands low "slickness", Kudryashov commie shell, or Cheeseman head mooment.
Camden Gray
Manny is the 2000s FOTD Ward is the 2010s
Brody Hill
Reminder that based Rigo will be the champ again in 2019.
You mean that faggot who didn't even manage to win the national championships, let alone Asian championships and above all never even dreamed of getting into the Olympics so he ended up beating up trashcans as a "pro"?
Lol, seems like Pacquiao wasn't meant to win. Between this and the dodgy SD win, as well as the PBC highlights egregiously leaving out Pac knocking down Thurman and that bodyshot in the 10th round it seems Pac is not being a good employee and letting the up and comers just retire him. This is hilarious, it's clear Pac was supposed to lose and Thurman would be taking Spence. Man imagine if Pac actually gets robbed against Spence? I'd actually for some reason like that more than if he wins just cause of how hilarious that'd be and how much that'd expose Spence.
Dylan Adams
Is Floyd one of the most talented fighters ever?
Ryder Nguyen
Talented, no Smartest, possibly
Andrew Rogers
No, born into a boxing family and was training since he was in diapers. He was destined for greatness.
Pacquiao might ironically be in the running though. Didn't pick up the gloves until he was 14 and turned pro 2 years later, became lineal champ while being a malnourished teenager before he met Roach. Then became the oldest WW champion ever when many greats like Leonard or Robinson failed to do that.
Brody Cruz
>dodgy SD There was nothing dodgy about the split decision if you know how scores work. The judges only had a swing of 2 rounds. Even when their guy wins, Pactards still manage to be delluded retards screaming at clouds.
Elijah Phillips
James Toney
Nathan Ward
That could actually be spicy, think Ryan loses though
Gassiev maybe train with Robert García. The BUM fighting style of staying shelled in then exploding 1 2 3s would work well for Gassiev considering his ridiculous power.
Aiden Bennett
Nobody wants to see a Thurman rematch.
Eli Cooper
I don't really want to see a rematch, but I don't really wanna see Manny get killed by Spence or Crawford either.
Jackson Lee
Dumb pactard it's not about what people want to see it's about balancing money and risk. Pacquiao wants money and doesn't want to get knocked out cold. The only pbc fighter that can give him that is Thurman Worst part about pacquiao winning is you brainlets have crawled out from under the rocks you live and think you have the right to speak to actual boxing fans
Noah Lewis
enjoyed reading this post.
Jacob Johnson
Gassiev at cruiser hits harder than most HWs, if he packs on some more mass he'll spark anyone out
Oliver Ortiz
goodnight pedo
Christopher Morris
Grumpy morning eh, have some coffee
Ryder Sanchez
Lol Thurman doesn't deserve a rematch, I didn't give him more than 4 rounds. And he got humiliated by getting knocked down right away by an old man.
Whatever judge gave the fight to Thurman needs to get shot in the foot
Joshua Baker
Was Broner always a bum? Or does he have CTE?
Cameron Hill
He'll still be a draw for the next few years, that's for sure
Get the salt out of your vag retard. Beating Thurman again does nothing for his legacy nor would people tune it to that. He's fighting for belts and legacy at this point, why would he fight someone he just beat not to mention if he does lose the rematch that just undoes his first victory or makes it look like a fluke since it was close other than the kd and bodyshot in round 10. If he just cares about money then he'd fight bums like Khan for easy paydays, which he has no problem getting. Pac absolutely would not want to waste his time with a pointless rematch.
Benjamin Collins
huge bum. all the names on his resume are L's.
Andrew Cox
he's been on the juice for years.
Anthony Ortiz
If you lose to a 40 year old man while you're 30 you don't deserve a rematch. Thurman had his chance but blew it. Pac would only want to rematch if the another judge gave it to Thurman or if it was a draw.
Juan Sanders
Holy fuck
Michael Richardson
Glad you agree
Josiah Ortiz
Manny got completely shut out, was a super dominant performance for Floyd and if there's a rematch it'd be even more one sided
Oliver Garcia
>Manny got completely shut out Thats just untrue since Manny won 8 rounds
Jason Hill
I thought you were talking about the Thurman fight kek, Manny didn't do anything against Floyd. He had 2 rallies of punches in two separate rounds, that's it.
is this the real promo? so fucking amateurish lmao
Jackson Robinson
Add Wilder
Brody Miller
Was just about to say this kek
Even the Loma/Campbell one looks like a intern made it
Thomas Nelson
Who is gonna be Loma's first ppv fight? López? Mikey? Davis? Pacquiao?
Jose Turner
>López weak.
>Mikey weak.
>Davis won't happen.
>Pacquiao won't happen.
honestly, where does he go from here? his career is heading downhill and time is running out.
Lincoln Gomez
none he's going to retire once he captures undisputed
Lincoln James
López would be weak since it'd be an easy beat down, but Mikey fight would be pretty good. Especially if they fight at 140 were Mikey would have the weight advantage to balance out his bummery.
Mexicans are, which is what you are you retarded spic
Michael Murphy
>Martinez is the Mexican that slept Lee Selby, he's a live dog imo No he's not, Selby only got slept because he had a horrendous training camp and had to fly out to Mexico days ahead of the bout.
Justin Thomas
I could tell it would be a wh*te boi before I even clicked on the link. The collective wh*te race is shitting itself at the idea of Teo getting matched up with Loma. They don't want Loma to get dabbed and flossed on, made into a fucking joke.
As a Mexican, I think this list is cringe as fuck. Andy and Estrada are the only good ones. The drug cheat would have been on if he fought Kovalev, but he's instead taking more time to let the Mexican meat leave his system
Joseph Reed
I don't think so, depends on how long it takes for him to get the Commey title. He will retire when he slows down and starts gassing. If he's still the same I don't think he will retire, he has been looking for legacy fights for a while and won't let them pass just to be safe. Berchelt also said he might go to 135 so it could be his first defense after undisputed. There's also Haney lurking around. It's Crawford the one that his career is going downhill. He literally can't get any more belts and there are no other names at welter. Bob was trying to say Ramírez might moved up and Ramírez shutted him up in the post fight conference saying he won't go up. There's even rumors of Bud going up to 154. He could win the Munguia title maybe, other than that he has nothing, Loma has like 6 possibilities after undisputed.
Jack Myers
Try all you want, you'll never be regarded as wh*te mayate.
his stated goal is undisputed and he doesn't care about anything after that, he might stick around to defend the titles a few times but he'll be looking to call time. he's had an absurdly long career already.
Tyler White
Edwards has absolutely no pop on his punches whatsoever, the Mexican goes to body and head well and is a very fast starter
Golovkin's old skin damages easily even though he blocks most shots with his gloves (his own glove ends up battering his face). His skin's resilience to swelling/bruising is almost worse than Cotto's.
His sparring looks pretty awful. The sport has evolved a lot.
Jace Richardson
But you admit he lost the first?
Christian Scott
yea, but i'm not the californi*no.
Jaxon Roberts
Chupamelo wey
Bro why you so obsessed with mikey? Your pita Garcia huh? Face it mikey fought weak champs, he a weight bully and ran from the tough fights trying to chase "greatness".
Jacob Thompson
Good list
Brody Powell
I thought the 1st fight was a draw. Ggg didn't do anything. He was scared to go to the body and canelo also didn't do anything.
Jace Morgan
>someone gets to fuck that
Jeremiah Carter
>Ggg didn't do anything. Except win the majority of the rounds
Jaxson James
>someone gets to smell that
Jacob Moore
Cool story bro
"Muh jab"
Gabriel Rodriguez
do they even have bitches like that in germany?
Camden Butler
>someone gets to be that
Hudson Diaz
let's make things interesting.... if it was a tranny, would you still fuck?
Hunter Reed
mulattos? of course, but not as many as in britain or france
Cameron Thomas
Fuck no! How can you stick in your cock in a man's ass? His balls are right next to it. Plus can you imagine he's ass smell? I would smell like a man.
Nicholas Rogers
Both of you are fucking faggots! And I would REKT both of you idiots. Also Brits are fucking BUMS!
not really, but some seem to be really into black dudes. but honestly, women just like dudes who are attractive in some way, if you suck with girls you won't get pussy regardless
Levi Perez
t. Roberto Lopez
Adam Walker
reminder canelo has the blood of traitors and cowards.
>The Saint Patrick's Battalion (Spanish: Batallón de San Patricio, later reorganized as the Foreign Legion of Patricios), formed and led by John Riley, was a unit of 175 to several hundred (accounts vary) immigrants and expatriates of European descent who fought as part of the Mexican Army against the United States in the Mexican–American War of 1846–48
>Most of the battalion's members had deserted or defected from the United States Army.
