>Pau Gasol signs with Portland Trailblazers >At this rate US might lose the World Cup >Melo is still a bum >John Wall is still shook >Daryl "MUH ANALYTICS" Morey believes Rockets can win a chip after signing Anthony Bennett, Tyson Chandler, Ben McLemore, and have two starting PG on the floor
My guy Pau still in the league let's get it Laker Nation
Ethan Reyes
>the women play better than the men top lol it's a spectacle to see a women even dunk; what skill do they possess that men don't?
Bentley Miller
they should just identify as male. problem solved.
Carter Ross
>Be Sixers >Misses the playoffs barely because lack of shooting Also no Giannis for you either you delusional goofs.
Colton Barnes
>"Where a guy is perfectly healthy and has a couple years left on his deal and says, 'I want to leave.' That's a real problem that the league has to address and that the players have to be careful with.
"When you sign on that dotted line, you owe your effort and your play to that team, to that city, to the fans. And then it's completely your right to leave as a free agent. But if you sign the contract, then you should be bound to that contract."
But when a team trades a player like cattle to as far as the ass of Canada then they are just acting in their best interests aren't they, Steve? Moron.
Liam Hill
I really hope nobody in this general rates Lonzo above my white son Benjamin David Simmons...
Same idiots who think Simmons can shoot. Same idiots who also think the 76ers will get far into the playoffs without shooters. And same idiots who think tall guys are more maillbile and unbreakable than players like Carson Wentz
Gabriel Young
My white son Benjamin Simmons is clearly a more dominant player
Christopher Reed
uh oh look out someone's obsessed with Philly again
Kapernick is more white and can shoot better than that bum Simmons ever will. Only difference is paid to be shit while Kapernick does anti white propaganda and make more money than him for doing it,
Liam Peterson
>Proceeds to miss the playoffs barely by fucking 3 games That's what happens when you let your best shooter/player that was Butler off for fucking Tobias/Ben
this year's city edition will be blue, r-right? I'ma buy one Wade, desu
Ryder Rivera
>play better Then why doesn't the WNBA bring in more revenue than the NBA?
Asher Diaz
WNBA Allstars vs NBA Allstars when?
Bentley Fisher
Because they want equal pay and have the same revenue by force because #Metoo
Justin Allen
wnba doesnt bring in profits at all nba pays for it to exist at a pretty hefty loss every year
Noah Wilson
Past your bedtime, boomer
Elijah Hernandez
>all da cool kids like washed up qbs turned nappy headed shoe salesman
Hunter Mitchell
>getting paid by nike to do outrage marketing to get the attention of retarded boomers like you >anti white propaganda
Got any Q theories to share?
Henry Taylor
at least you admit what the niglet really is
>nah bruh, muh boy kap be droppin fax n sheeit
Chase Robinson
Ill sleep better knowing my team has shooter unlike the 76ers. And Ill have good dreams too knowing Ben Simmons is not on my team and grossly overpaid with Bryce Harper tiered money
Charles Cook
>miami boomer is drunk posting on Yea Forums at 3.30am on a thursday morning, making seetheposts about ben simmons and the sixers Kek
they cant trade any 1st rounders anymore because of the consecutive rule and have already said they wont trade herro, how would they even get beal???
Christian Jackson
Called bluffing the league into thinking that. I mean the 76ers were pulling that bullshit throughout the process to the point the league told them to knock it the fuck off.
Connor Morgan
blazers straight up trade for cj
Josiah White
that being said, butler - beal combo would be kino as fuck. like the poor mans clippers duo
Ryder Flores
No point, thats retarded
Jordan Morgan
beal > cj . the lillard - cj duo has peaked
Cooper Brooks
cj is loyal and they already said they wouldnt trade him
Mecha-John Wall Bradley Beal OG Anunoby Pascal Siakam Giannis Antetokounmpo
Kevin Fisher
Whats the starting lineup for the us team at this point?
Parker Long
I swear they are looking like a confederate flag more and more every season.
Luis Lee
PELICANS will win their first title in 2022-23, cap this shit.
Isaiah Johnson
The league still runs through Trono
Luis Cox
The fans are more important than the players you fucking negroid. Nobody cares about the owners or team management, but their interests just happen to usually align with the fans’ interests. If it becomes a regular occurrence that players sign supermaxes with small teams and leave for one of 4 teams after a year, the league will be in very big trouble
Thomas Cox
>duncan was a centre >kobe was clutch >hakeem wouldn't have repeated if mj didnt retire >bill was better than wilt >iverson was better than chauncey >kat and booker are good >oladipo isn't the best guard in the east >the raptors wont make the ECF in 2020 >kawhi is better than lebron and kd >the warriors arent a contender anymore
If Chris Paul stays the whole season, watch the Thunder win the 6th or 7th seed.
Sebastian Jenkins
Vince Carter where?
Oliver Barnes
would be fun if goes back to Toronto
Ian Gonzalez
Ben simmons is the GOAT because he won the most, and thats all that matters
Bentley Flores
what the WNBA players are actually asking for is a fair split of WNBA revenue. They want to get the same proportion of WNBA revenue as NBA players get of NBA revenue, not the same amount of money
I know people don't actually care they just want to make fun of women but still
Anthony Jackson
Which of Denver, Utah, the LA teams, Houston and Portland are they better than
Logan Richardson
How much less are they getting paid than if they were getting the same proportion as nba players
Benjamin Thomas
NBA players get 50% of basketball related income. WNBA players get somewhere around 20 or 25% of basketball related income. So it's a big difference.
Isaiah Garcia
The WNBA says it has lost significant money the last 22 years, including $12 million last season. "On average (we've lost) over $10 million every year we've operated," NBA Commissioner Adam Silver told The Associated Press in October. Attendance across the league was down nearly an average of 1,000 fans per game.
What would be my ideal team in the NBA? I want > Loser team > Pathetic Team > Team that has never wins a Championship > Team with a very weak and very poor fan base > Team with very low attendance at their Arena > Team without any important achievement > Team That Always Live Under the Shadow of a Most Popular, Most Successful and Most Winning MLS Soccer Team
Bentley Clark
I fundamentally don't trust anything that a sports league says about its profitability, especially when it's said around contract negotiation time. Next CBA negotiation cycle, Silver is probably going to say that half of the NBA is losing money, too. Are you going to believe him then?
Go away. Fuck off.
James Reed
Their willingness to take on John Wall's contract.
How do I get back into basketball after not watching for years? I don’t really like my home team
Adam Sanders
Atlanta
Charles Gomez
Start playing basketball. That’s why I like watching.
Jonathan Ortiz
Well the numbers line up with what he said though. Also I believe Ive read somewhere that there are more teams that operate at a loss of money than those in the positive in the NBA. But it's not as big of a problem because of the big market teams. They make up for the bad/small market teams.
The WNBA doesn't have the Lakers or Celtics or anything like that to balance it out. My guess would be you can find more athleticism in a pick up game in Wisconsin with 14 yr old white kids playing.
You ever watched a WNBA game? Everybody still fires up shoots from where their tits should be for christ's sakes!
Do you actually think that the average player in 1962 was as good as the average player in 2019? Or even close?
Caleb Wilson
1: untrue 2: true 3: probably true 4: true 5: untrue 6: KAT's definitely good, the jury's still out on Booker 7: You might actually be right about that, but Kemba and Kyrie are at least in the same tier as Dipo. Lowry, Jaylen Brown and Malcolm Brogdon are also gonna be challenging for that title. 8: Almost 100% true 9: At the moment, definitely true. We'll see about it next year. 10: Definitely not a contender without Klay.
Those are some edgy and controversial statements you made, with the obvious intent of just trying to be edgy and insulting to people who think differently than you, but your percentage of accuracy is surprisingly high for a troll.
Jacob Green
>Do you actually think that the average player in 1962 was as good as the average player in 2019?
people never specify this are we taking the average '62 player and putting him on a 2019 roster or sending the 2019 player back to 1962?
Asher Gray
Since this is wilt user, and everything that he posts is to bolster his argument that Wilt is the GOAT, I assume the point of the argument is that Wilt's competition was good and the numbers that Wilt put up were meaningful. Which means that we have to look at the players from 1962 the way that they were then, when Wilt was playing against them.
Lucas Perry
Oh noooo wilt would not be able to dominate in this "small ball" era.
This is a common fallacy. If those players from the 60s era came to play in the current era, then they would have the same developmental tools, training, diet, etc that current players enjoy. In the end, there wouldn't be much of a difference. In any case, players in the 50s and 60s still were in great condition.
Jonathan Nguyen
>The rookie minimum is $41,965 in base salary, a number Taurasi said is less than what a janitor at the arena would make. It’s unfair, she said, given that players such as the Mercury’s Brittney Griner are asked to “carry the league” when they come in.
>As with many WNBA stars, Taurasi plays overseas in the league’s offseason to offset her $117,500 base max salary and makes around $1.5 million from her Russian team.
>We had to go to a communist country to get paid like capitalists, which is so backward to everything that was in the history books in sixth grade. And even then, even within our pay scale, it doesn't make sense. On a team, you could have seven players making the same amount of money. That doesn't make sense to me.
Sebastian Miller
I had five guys the other day it was pretty good but $15 for a burger and small fries c'mon f*a*m...
can't go wrong with taco bell either.
Leo Peterson
Nobody watches/cares about the WNBA. What do they expect?
>“People were deliberately trying to hurt me all of the time. I had never been called the B-word so many times in my life than I was in my rookie season. I’d never been thrown to the ground so much. The message was: ‘We want you to know we don’t like you.’ “
WTF the WNBA is based??
Oliver Collins
>Wiggins, who last played in the league in 2015, said she retired prematurely to leave a league that she estimated — wildly — is 98 percent lesbian, and which is played in such isolation that it weighs on the people on the court.
Liam Ortiz
They were mad that they couldn't eat her pussy out.
Jose Williams
Fuck does that even mean
Gabriel Hernandez
The WNBA is full of lesbians that all have orgies after games. It's the most degenerate league in the world.
Easton Cook
That one chick drake was crushing on that one year gay af too?
Zachary Price
>Taurasi: Once again, I just don't understand how the NBA has made rock stars out of their best players ... if you think about what they've been able to do marketing-wise. And obviously it started with Magic and Larry and Isiah, and then obviously Jordan took it to the next level. And then you had Kobe, Shaq, and now you have LeBron, Harden, Steph, Durant. >They've made rock stars out of these players. And we just have not been able to capitalize on any of that. Not even a little bit. Not even one bit. Like, are you kidding me with some of the stuff that they do marketing and promoting-wise? It's almost mind-boggling.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY WON'T YOU MARKET ME LIKE LEBRON AND KOBE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>muh no shooters Everyone in the Sixers' starting 5 (save for Ben Simmons, because he's an unknown) has a decent outside shot and a much better midrange shot. On top of that, the starting 5 will probably be far more load managed this year, so we'll see more bench players: Mike Scott (one of the best bench shooters in the league, mind you), Zhaire Smith, Matisse Thybulle, James Ennis, Marial Shayok, Jonah Bolden, Shake Milton... all good shooters. I don't know where this 'Sixers have no shooters' meme came from but it's likely simply just bait because I can't fathom a team WITH shooters if not the Sixers. >missing the playoffs Sixers? Missing the playoffs? In this East? kek. There's like, 3 really good teams? The Bucks, the Sixers, and the Nets. The Pacers are a big question mark because of Dipo. All the other teams are middling/not that good. I think the Sixers would have to go full Process and actually flat out tank to miss the playoffs this year. As long as they're trying to win, I'd peg them at 4 seed at the lowest.
Alexander Rodriguez
Grant hill and Jason Kidd were so good they had to be co rookie of the year
but everything else matters not just whats on the court
almost all human activity gets better with time over generations, so the claim of taking a 2019 Gleague player skillset to 1962 and it would dominate is technically true. but you also have to include the 2019 mindset that likely couldnt last a week in 1962.
>2019 player goes back to 1962 >scores 80 points first game >after game realizes there are no smartphones in 1962, cries for 2 hours >as he heads for the team airplane he realizes he has to get on the team bus >goes to away game in the south >gets called a nigger >complains to police about being called a nigger >police laugh and call him a nigger again >goes back to the team bus and hangs himself
Justin Anderson
WNBA teams should play against G League teams.
Wyatt Walker
They would get literally killed
Thomas Thomas
yes, it's true that any good WNBA player could make way more money playing in Europe but that kind of sucks
Henry Gomez
or they could try out for the G-League just like the rest of us have to do if we want nba money
Tyler Green
they're not asking for NBA money
Jaxon Edwards
Grant Hill drinks Sprite.
Daniel Rivera
Who hangs themself over being called a racist slur?
Jack Johnson was fucking white bitches and getting called a “nigger” and all he did was continue to beat up more white dudes and fuck white bitches
Can’t wait for the sexual assault charges because some high flyer posterizes a dyke and puts his balls in her face
Leo Harris
then whats their complaint?
i mean they have their own super special league where you cant play unless you are a certain gender, that really should be illegal but we overlook it as a favor to female athletes.
Tyler Hill
hyperbole
also a mediocre white boxer in 2019 would beat the dogshit out of jack johnson
Levi Scott
>then whats their complaint?
They want a larger portion of WNBA revenue to go to players so they don't have to play in Russia
Robert Perry
i dont play in russia for free they dont need money for that
Jacob Ward
Not even joking, but if it's based on "income", wouldn't the WNBA players OWE the league money?
Ayden Harris
Yea Five Guys would taste better if it was $3 cheaper
Decent outside shooting is generous, and decent isn't enough. Midrange is inefficient, especially without good spacing. Simmons is not an unknown. It's been three years, we've seen what kind of player he is. >On top of that, the starting 5 will probably be far more load managed this year, so we'll see more bench players >No, our starting lineup with 4 guys we pay $25mil+ each isn't going to play as much, so we'll be really good!
And people would pay for that, more revenue, more money dykes get paid and we get to see them humiliated
Juan Walker
Not taking a stance here, but there's a difference between income and profit.
Isaac Wright
The thing is, is that it's split up like that precisely because it is a much smaller pie than the NBA. Owners are putting up money for what? So some dykes can keep finger banging her teammates and play basketball in empty stadiums?
Zachary Harris
CIA glowniggers please go and stay go
Jordan Sanders
there is no income for the wnba league as a whole, it operates from nba profits. it loses vast sums of cash every year
Austin Phillips
Bradley Beal doesnt play defense, you guys do know that right?
Adrian Richardson
defense is illegal anyway
Charles Price
Just take $3 worth of peanuts then you fuckin bum
Mason Hall
And? Doesn’t discredit what he did.
Jeremiah Sanchez
Five Guys is not even great. I wish we had In-n-Out here.
Carson Jenkins
Andre Drummond Paul Millsap Khris Middleton Donovan Mitchell Kemba Walker
does this team win gold ?
Benjamin Walker
Five guys is infinitely Superior to in n out though. In b out isn't even better than Wendy's.
Dominic Garcia
he didnt beat up any 2019 athletes
Ayden Hughes
Nah that’s bullshit. In-n-Out is reasonably priced AND tastes better than Five Guys. Five Guys loses in both categories.
Elijah Hughes
>Kawhi Leonard: “Y’all kept saying that me and Paul’s favorite team growing up was the Lakers. I’m not going to say [Yahoo Sports], but whatever media outlet was out there saying that Kawhi prefers the Lakers over the Clippers, or Paul loves the Lakers, was wrong,” Lmao he just shat all over the media and ignorant Laker fans
Wyatt Allen
In n out is not good. Deaaron fox agrees. Awful restaurant that only California's try to prop up and he took a dump all over them mao
Julian Watson
>yo Kawhi lets hit up some strip clubs tonight bro >nah Paul, i’m watching grey’s anatomy tonight.
Jace Smith
kawhi the type of guy that wants to play monopoly until the game actually ends
Kevin Hill
Why did Laker fans try to say Lakers were kawhis favorite team growing up? Paul George too. It's been known for years Paul George was a clippers fan growing up. Kawhi wasn't a Laker fans either but no clue what team he was a fan of.
Julian Martinez
Clearly Kawhi was a bandwagoner and just liked players rather than teams
Logan Reed
Kawhi was a Melo and AI fan growing up.
Hudson Reyes
Better than Whataburger atleast.
David Nguyen
>The thing is, is that it's split up like that precisely because it is a much smaller pie than the NBA
That's a terrible argument. Obviously the pie is much smaller, but why does that also mean that they should get a much smaller slice of the pie?
I just don't believe anything that a sports league says about its profitability. Every league acts poor and says that they're losing massive amounts of cash when players ask to be paid. You can prove just about anything with enough accounting tricks.
>it loses vast sums of cash every year That's profit, dummy. Income is what you get from ticket sales, merchandising, etc. There's still income, just not enough to offset the operating costs.
Andrew Phillips
People don't understand In N Out and that's OK. It's not De'Aaron Fox fault he's not from the West Coast. In N Out doesn't have the most amazing burgers in the world and you're not going to come every time you eat them
but they're cheap, they're really good, and you can have them for breakfast lunch and dinner every day and not get tired of em. Five Guys you get a burger it costs 15 bucks and you can't go back to 5 Guys for another month
Asher Phillips
>Every league acts poor and says that they're losing massive amounts of cash when players ask to be paid.
nba said that then the players unionized and go on strike every time they want more money. and they get it every single time.
wnba players arent even valuable enough to go on strike
Ryder Clark
it would be the atlanta hawks
Hunter Gray
In-n-Out is the most overrated trash I've ever tried
Colton Lewis
>G league
I know it's sponsored by Gatorade but really? there had to be some racial undertones to the choice of name
>it's been three years stopped reading there. you don't even watch nba.
Evan Collins
Either PG or Kawhi will have a season ending injury
John Martinez
i just figured out that rockets logo reminds me of quake 3 arena
Mason Hill
Not the guy youre arguing with but it's safe to assume Ben Simmons jump shot will never be anything more than bad. There's been 0 indications that Ben Simmons will actually learn how to shoot properly. His form was and continues to be what is glaringly bad about it.
I dont believe in players that can't be out there in the final 2 minutes of a game.
He should quit pretending he's something that he is not and permanently play PF. He could be so much better if he would do that. His strengths can then mitigate his weaknesses.
Jackson Ortiz
I can see why
Liam Thomas
theres a five guys beside my house but i never go what should i get?
Levi Cox
Bullshit you stopped reading. You couldn't come up with an argument and quit on a technicality. He's been in the league for three years, if he hasn't worked up the courage to even take a shot at this point in his career, he's never going to be a good shooter.
Noah Cooper
Shaq. Shaq. Shaq.
Nathaniel Cruz
>Melo is still a bum so its possible he wont get to play in NBA next season?
Daniel Scott
simmo's got the genny in a chokehold again kek
Tyler Thomas
>JJ Redick has an invitation to join USA Basketball's depleted roster for the FIBA World Cup. "I'm thrilled beyond belief to be considered but also trying to work through our family's transition to New Orleans," he tells ESPN. He expects to have an answer for USA officials soon.
maybe if he was in good shape his whole career and could hit 70% of his FTs
Benjamin Phillips
>Team USA ends up being a celtics dry run I'm not mad
Aiden Williams
greg monroe lol
Ethan Reyes
is that tony allen?
Dylan Flores
We have to do well to qualify though
Lincoln Murphy
A fair split of WNBA revenue would result in them all making like $20k a year.
WNBA games are embarrassing because they're fucking empty.
The Women Huskies host bigger crowds on the regular than the defending champ WNBA teams.
Jose Martinez
Who got them Nuggets jeans on?
Grayson Martinez
Beal literally gets to sit in the draft board discussions. They want to pay him the big bucks but they know they need to draft someone good to help him. I'm not sure he's going to leave, but if they keep fucking up drafts -- and with Sashi Brown aboard that's pretty inevitable -- he'll probably bail. For a west coast team.
So the Pelicans why not.
Brandon Roberts
Ujiri is literally one of the best personnel people in the NBA, but he's also literally in Toronto.
your know what, I'm just going to filter this post
Isaac Ramirez
..................... the two Memphis Grizzlies players, who are actually friends, scuffled over a debt of $7,500 that OJ Mayo owed to Allen after losing in the card game Bourre.
Tony Allen, regarded as one of the toughest guys in the league, tried to avoid a confrontation, but Mayo trash-talked Allen for roughly 15 minutes, criticizing his game, bragging about how he was a better basketball player than Allen, about how he was a lottery pick.
Allen was especially bothered by Mayo's chatter because they have a friendly relationship. Zach Randolph tried to play peacemaker, telling Mayo to stop ribbing Allen, but to no avail.
Finally, Allen had enough and struck Mayo in the face. He then landed a succession of blows to Mayo's eye, mouth, shoulder and the side of his head. Mayo was able to get off a swing, but Allen ducked to avoid it and then clocked Mayo once more for good measure.
Dylan Flores
WNBA players getting a fair split of *revenue* would lead to them making like twice as much as they do now. The WNBA makes a lot of money by all visible accounting, even before you take into account whatever money the NBA allegedly throws their way.
The problem - according to the league and the teams - is that the fixed costs of operating the league are apparently too high for that to be practical. But if you just look at the money the league takes in, based on ESPN money, attendance, corporate sponsorships, stuff like that - WNBA players get a significantly smaller share of that money than NBA players do by any reasonable estimate.
Charles Ortiz
I don't understand why anyone would re sign with that team if they had any other option
Josiah Johnson
Literally who can stop my Rapties????????
Huh?????
Huh???????
Aiden Flores
The city
Josiah Green
no one
the east still runs through OUR rapties!
Kayden Brown
pelicans 2022-23
Asher Brooks
Obviously, but if there is no profit and they want more of the income that's just going to create more negative profit. This just seems like fast way for the league to fold.
Jordan Thomas
what are you talking about. it wouldn't shock me if the nba paid espn to air it. it doesn't make money. they recently moved to smaller venues because it just wasn't viable anymore to host them at freakin' madison square garden etc..
Gabriel Cox
AD is a bust.
Jason Davis
AD is a fag.
Nathan Sullivan
AD is a bitch.
Jayden Campbell
AD is a bum.
Isaiah Martinez
Yeah that's a function of economy of scale. NBA teams make enough in revenue to pay for all of their operations, so there's more left over for the players. WNBA doesn't cover its operations, so paying the players happens at the lowest bracket of pay.
This is the retarded aspect of any equity argument. For the league it would make more sense to go to the NBPA and say "hey we're just going to cut you to 20% of revenue because women are bitching again" but the NBPA would say "fuck that" and because they own the market, they win.
We have literally seen high schools shut down athletic programs because the girls' programs can't self-sustain and Title IX requires an even number of teams.
Gasol Z-bo Courtney Lee Tony Allen Mike Conley Jeff Green VC Tayshawn Prince Rudy Gay OJ Mayo
how the fuck did this team not manage to even compete for a championship. highest they got is swept by the spurs in the wCF
Cooper Parker
>In businesses, income can refer to a company's remaining revenues after paying all expenses and taxes.
that's revenue retard income is interchangeable with profit for a business
John Cooper
Holy shit does someone think the amount of proceeds equals income?
Income = revenue - expenses
This is a fuckin technical term there’s no debate you god damn idiots
% of revenue for salaries makes no god damn sense because it ignores the capital structure of businesses
Jack Moore
Lakersfans are dum dums
Justin Thomas
>it wouldn't shock me if the nba paid espn to air it. it doesn't make money.
this is something that you literally just made up out of thin air though
>NBA teams make enough in revenue to pay for all of their operations, so there's more left over for the players. WNBA doesn't cover its operations, so paying the players happens at the lowest bracket of pay.
Sure. That's the argument that actually makes sense. I have no idea whether or not it's true, because we have no actual access to WNBA books. We can estimate their revenue based on reported numbers but it's a lot harder to estimate their operating costs. But if it's true, fine, that makes sense.
But so much of this stuff is people just making stuff up because they don't like the WNBA. It's so dumb. People say things like "if the players got a proportionate share of the revenue to NBA players, they'd be making less". That is just categorically not true. People say that the WNBA players are demanding to make the same money as NBA players, which they have never done even for a second. People just completely make this stuff up.
>We have literally seen high schools shut down athletic programs because the girls' programs can't self-sustain and Title IX requires an even number of teams.
OK. Are high school sports programs supposed to self-sustaining based on revenue now? I sort of figured most high school sports programs were funded by their schools. And even if it's true, what does it have to do with the WNBA?
Josiah Young
If you seriously think the WNBA in any way deserves more pay, please kys. Imagine employees demanding they get paid more by their employer despite the company losing money every year because nobody cares or wants their product.
Joshua Hernandez
>what does it have to do with the WNBA? h8 dem wimminz simple as
Adrian Fisher
The Flying Dutchman at in n out is an absolute bargain $2.50 for 2 patties and a shitload of cheese
Elijah Wright
For me as well
Owen Lee
Stop saying ‘make enough in revenue’.
Revenue does NOT MATTER when you do not account for the underlying cost structure (margins).
I'm just glad Kawhi and KD out here to ruin Lebron legacy
Evan Gutierrez
Literally who can stop spicy P?
Benjamin Butler
>Sure. That's the argument that actually makes sense. I have no idea whether or not it's true, because we have no actual access to WNBA books. We can estimate their revenue based on reported numbers but it's a lot harder to estimate their operating costs. But if it's true, fine, that makes sense. I mean if you want to talk finances we should specify that NBA players' compensation pools are built with net revenue, not gross revenue. As has been pointed out, WNBA doesn't really have net revenue, although it has gross revenue.
>OK. Are high school sports programs supposed to self-sustaining based on revenue now? I sort of figured most high school sports programs were funded by their schools. And even if it's true, what does it have to do with the WNBA? It depends? Schools tend to fund 3-4 teams fully for both genders and then more or less rely on the others to fundraise for their gear.
I played baseball, basketball, and was a distance runner in high school. But that was because they shut down the boy's lacrosse and hockey teams because the girls' teams couldn't sustain their costs. Not because the boys' teams couldn't.
It's beginning to impact sports trajectories for boys; as "fringe" boys' sports are marginalized because of Title IX we lose the ability to produce as many top flight players in those sports, which results in less interest in those sports, which is a vicious cycle of sports death.
If you're cool with nothing but the big three (sorry, NHL) being left, I guess that's fine?
Eli Hall
if the wnba was making any profit they wouldnt need the nba
Christian Cook
i know you are arguing on accounting terms but you could both be right if you call revenue the gross income and profit the net income.
income as a word just means money coming in
can you just stop fighting and be friends
Nathaniel Ramirez
Raptors-Clippers Finals Game 7 will be a kino for the ages.
Cameron Parker
My gross income is 2450 and my net income is 1710
Gabriel Taylor
Damn, CP3 can take a shin to the face and still make it look like a flop.
Ayden Davis
Breh! How do you feel about specialized financial institutions in developing countries? I'm literally writing a paper on sovereign loan buydowns and development impact bonds for a not-for-profit right now.
Aiden Bailey
I don't have an answer, that's why I'm not taking a stance. But it's not really all that unreasonable for them to want a more balanced pay rate. As is, most of them play overseas in the offseason, meaning that they don't rest properly and are more prone to injury. It's kind of a cyclical problem where they don't have time to rest and condition, so the level of play decreases.
Jonathan Jones
Not my area of expertise, mostly private equity and real estate (securitizations).
In general, emerging markets are getting shafted by dollar-denominated bonds bc of strong dollar. That’s been the story in EM FX this year. Ofc you need to offset FX risk when an unreliable country has control of its currency.
In particular, depends on what specialized financial institution and their purpose. If you give more deets I would love to chat
Connor Myers
Salaries as a percent of revenue (gross income) is ludicrous, plain and simple. It’s a non-argument.
Dylan Jackson
Man my skin roasts when I go outside. What are /nba/'s thoughts on climate change? Are we a green gen?
Jayden Bennett
I would like to save the environment but I don’t care enough to change my habits other than not littering and making sure I recycle.
Benjamin James
how come kawhi would rather play with pg13 instead of leeking? he has a jumpshot and i'm pretty sure leking will give him the ball when the game is on the line.
its ludicrous that wnba is demanding more money since they dont make any money cause nobody watches that shit. college bball should be getting paid before wnba does, its america damnit the land of the free market
Ethan Mitchell
FUCK YEAH I hate the Celtics but damn I'm excited to watch him ball out
Noah Nguyen
who's cameron payne and why are my raptie bros on reddit shitting on him?
Caleb Collins
College players should be paid, but that's a different argument completely. Also
>Being from Grease >Talking finances
Zachary Martin
brodie's dance partner
Christopher Roberts
Preface: I'm a researcher, no formal finance background.
I'm working with an organization that provides micronutrient initiatives for developing countries. In particular they provide iodized salt, vitamin A, and iron enriched salt to children in the first 1000 days of life and during adolescence. They asked me to take a peek at innovative funding solutions to see if anything can be applicable to their current funding model.
My two cents is that sovereign loans are literally neocolonial slavery, while buydowns are unsustainable and primarily superficial. Sure, better access to immediate capital, but that isn't going to provide relief from trillions of compounded debt from corrupt governments. Development bonds are more about private organizations purchasing infrastructure, which I support, but the mechanism leans more to privatization in the context of ownership over a water supply, which my organization doesn't like.
Where I'm at are SFI's but most of the literature I can find is from Palestine and India, and to be frank, it's poorly written. What I've gathered is that they provide medium and long term loans to specialized areas like agriculture or development initiatives, but what I don't understand is how they actually get money. Something something government?
I honestly just need a rundown on the positives and negatives associated with them. My recommendations are probably going to be a human-centeric consultation with the region, but I honestly think all of these are bad solutions for the client if they want long term change. I'm building a logic model for their future development, but it's tough since they're super fucking humble and are mostly accepting of devastating poverty.
Easton Price
It's official. The East still runs through Toronto
wnba players get paid more than G league they should be thanking the jew daily for that
Parker Fisher
While they may look like ‘neocolonial slavery’ on face value, that is too simple of an explanation.
Capital markets are rather efficient. If you are paying high interest rates but you’re credit worthy and deserve to pay a low interest rate, then someone else will do that deal with you.
So it wouldn’t make sense for high rates to subsist.
To understand this, consider the general risks of repayment for loans. Take a developing country, let’s say Argentina.
Argentina can print currency to pay off their loan. They also have a history of going bankrupt. They will then have to pay a lot.
There is also a problem w their currency - not widely used - so risk from transferring it.
Political risk
Collateral risk - what assets do you get in return?
You should read in general about credit rating standards for developing nations.
The standards seem neocolonialist because the debtors are unreliable and extremely risky. It’s like saying credit cards high rates are racist bc minorities use them - nah, that’s just the only way to price their risk.
Jayden Ramirez
Who has the biggest cock in the nba, sp? Imagine this man destroying your wife
It definitely is a problem in that credit histories are based off of the history of a borrowers creditworthiness so countries get screwed.
Consider securing the project by having sponsors in developed countries or assets in developed countries. The superior legal system and recourse would decrease the cost of debt.
Secure the project with any collateral the project uses, have some equity from donors, etc
Luke Campbell
my wife is a guy
Samuel Myers
who else is going to talk about it athenians been scheming and dipping on that sweet delian money back when americans were dancing to bring the rain
Kevin Martin
Oh, I'm not jerking off about it, I already know exactly what you're saying, but the country in particular has devalued the fuck out of their currency to print more money in order to pay off the debt. I essentialized it real hard for brevity; shit won't work for my multinational client because the government in the region will embezzle the money, and we're only talking $50 million per annum on my end.
I'm mostly interested in SFI's and how they are financed, as well as the positives and negatives. My report is way less biased than my filthy phone posting.
Landon Sanchez
How come Kawhi wants to be in LA around the people he grew up with but Kevin Durant said he would never play in DC for that exact reason?
It’s a clear contrast between an alpha autist and a beta autist.
David Martinez
How much does a researcher in a position like yours get paid?
Noah Moore
I understand the point that you're making. I agree with the point you're making. If the claims that the league is making about WNBA financials are accurate, then that would be a compelling argument against increasing WNBA players' pay.
What I object to is the other arguments that people make that are objectively false. The arguments that what they make is already in line with the league's revenue compared to the proportion earned by NBA players, or that the WNBA players are demanding to be paid the same absolute amount as NBA players.
The other disagreement is that I'm not inclined to take any league's statement on its financials at face value.
Joseph James
>Stephen A. Smith is still allowed to have opinions
i work at a prominent hedge fund besides that, i'm a complete loser, so i fit in here
Josiah Gonzalez
I’m starting law school soon. Probably won’t be posting much here anymore but I’ll eventually have a real job.
Jordan Cooper
Basically nothing until you get 3-5 years experience. Usually they want a PhD or a master's, but finance and medicine pays well. I'm actually in educational policy development, I took this on as a favor.
Thanks fampai, I'll keep my eyes peeled. My lady is coming over later but I will review the thread.
FACT: You're absolutely right. People are also sleeping on the Pacers, assuming Home Depot is 3/4ths the player he was last year.
ive been in the road doing uber and doordash for 46 straight hours
Thomas Myers
Nice. The zion rivalry could be good
Julian Wright
I'm an importer exporter
John Sullivan
how much did you make?
Aiden Flores
I make 65k a year as a 23 yr old analyst
Michael Perez
yeah only carpenter i can think of is Guy Carpenter
Christopher Stewart
I forgot he played for charlotte
Jace Anderson
I am 27 have a bachelor's degree in humanities and speak 4 languages...but I am unemployed. By the time Giannis wins a ring I hope I will be a diplomat for my country.
did any of you lot watch that extended video of jjd redick about moving, his wife seems like a bitch desu I wonder what she thinks about moving to noo oarlin
Daniel Taylor
Still need kd to show next year
Caleb Jones
i hate personal life reality shit
Eli Hill
Fuck the Lakers
Isaiah Taylor
Ahem.... Attention everybody I have an announcement to make:
I want to hate him but he did destroy the Clippers future and will be back in Toronto with Giannis in 2021 after he gets the major leg surgery to fix his current limp later this year
Connor Brown
Enjoy cheering for team Leltics
Isaac Brooks
Not for another year at least. Then you have to wonder if KD will ever be the same again.
So for now my Rapties have the East on lock.
Ethan Ross
Stupid, making a seethe and attaching tuxedo pepe to try and hide it doesnt work lol
Caleb Jones
lmao who even da best baller on dis roster bruh is like myers turner or some shiit lMAOOOOOOOOOO
Isaac Nguyen
Big Benny owns the genny
Jaxon Harris
walker mitchell middleton randle drummond
Wyatt Evans
BASED
Kayden Lee
Kawhi did nothing wrong, and is in fact, a hero
Are any other national teams even good right now?
Gabriel Wilson
>The Bucks, Hawks and Jazz will all win a championship before james harden
I love this timeline
Gabriel Ross
no there isnt revenue - expenses = income or profit you can get more specific for tax avoidance schemes but for the purposes of this discussion they are the same thing
Obviously Jokic is probably going to be the best player in the tournament but I'm not sure Bogdanovic or Bjelica or whoever else are really better than anyone on the American team
we're just so used to having dream teams now
my only real problem is not enough defensive wings
Angel Bennett
shame RoCo is coming off an injury
Logan Cruz
most of the vets on serbia are nba/g league equivalent, plus its the euro game refereed euro style. they call traveling
Liam Kelly
Clippers just announced new stadium designs
Noah Wilson
2010
Nicholas Kelly
Most of the US players are quality NBA starters. Even Plumlee is a really high-quality backup. Harry Barnes is probably the worst player on the roster.
Isaiah Hernandez
Lowry Kemba Middleton Thad Turner
Isaac Ramirez
Kyle Lowry finna lead my Burgies to the Gold Medal
Kayden Gomez
>Are any other national teams even good right now? see: 1. usa 1/5 2. serbia 4.75/1 3. spain 16/1 4. greece 20/1 5. france 33/1
Colton Davis
most of them play on trash teams besides lowry and middleton. mitchell isnt that great maybe tatum and brown probably only the top 8 or so of both depth charts matters anyway, not like its a long nba season where you need a deep bench.
Joshua Ward
just root for the leafs, they are pretty based murray barrett brooks lyles powell
Jason Rivera
I feel like I'd rather have the defense around Kemba over Middleton's scoring but sure
I mean Detroit, Boston and Indiana were all playoff teams, at least. Utah and Houston were playoffs teams. Kuzma and Randle were bright spots on their respective teams. Clearly they're not, like, all-stars but almost all of those players are capable of getting minutes on a contender if they aren't already doing so.
It's the worst USA roster for a serious competition in a long time probably but it's not like a lot of other countries have that many quality starters.
Charles Robinson
cant believe we won the last meaningful championship and after i turned 18 too so it counts !!!!
Henry Howard
*
Brayden Hall
kemba is gonna carry them to the title
David Long
>win some championship when only 2 countries are involved and celebrate like its the biggest thing ever >get to the world stage and open at +5000
Connor Rivera
OKC's whining about PG is already obnoxious af. George gave them the excuse they wanted and needed to do a rebuild - even if he "forced" his way out, they could have easily flipped the PG haul for someone else good if they wanted to contend. Instead, OKC's decision was to dump their aging "franchise" player they were overpaying at the next possible opportunity.
Paul George basically gifted OKC a ton of assets through his retarded decision to re-sign with them and he's just got nothing bugt shit for it.
Isaiah Diaz
the only team with a chance to beat the US is Serbia. Not saying the games won't be closer with a lot of the top-tier guys bitching out on the team but Serbia really don't have the depth this US roster has. Serbia is like Teodosic, Bogdan, Bjelica, Jokic, and Boban, the rest is euroleague guys. When Jokic and Bogdan are off the court they won't have a lot. Spain are old af. Greece have Giannis (who will get fucked by FIBA rules btw) and like Tyler Dorsey or some shit. The rest of the teams don't matter. The leafs have a young team and might be competitive in a few years, and could make a run here, but aren't that good yet. No bench players.
Ayden Perez
desd
Nicholas Bennett
never forget that OKC was actively trying to dump salary even before PG requested a trade
Also remember that Boban can only play like 10 minutes a game
Hudson Murphy
>>Daryl "MUH ANALYTICS" Morey believes Rockets can win a chip after signing Anthony Bennett, Tyson Chandler, Ben McLemore, and have two starting PG on the floor
Rockets do this every year - get fringe NBA players, often former busts, and see if they can make something of them and cut them if they can't. Sometimes it works (Gerald Green, Daniel House), a lot of the time it doesn't (MCW, Zhou Qi)
The exception is Chandler - he's just a backup for 10 minutes a game now Nene is gone.
Zachary Kelly
i didnt know murray was a laff, i like him but yeah they have zero depth like said
Asher Parker
10 quality minutes from a big is valuable
Jack Howard
Its a lot easier for him with FIBA rules since he can camp the paint (no 3 seconds), and since you're allowed to goaltend after it touches/lands on the rim the rim(but not while its in the air on a downward path).
Logan Green
Exactly. OKC was begging for an excuse to blow it all up and this is letting them play the victim and it's annoying as fuck.
Eli Gomez
yup fuck em. less i know about players the better.
Aaron King
not to mention OKC gained cp3, top 5 all time pg...
they should've just kept russ and tried for a title just goes to show how overrated sam presti is...
Angel Russell
making the whole stadium stink like fish when both teams synchronize their periods
Hudson Robinson
you clearly just stretched out the wilt in the pic you replied to. Doesn't even look good baka
Aren't autistics supposed to be good at photoshop computer shit?
wtf is this shit, di you guys see this? This is the most retarded press conference ever. They're just sitting there being obsessed with my Lakers. Talk about pathetic am i right? lmao.
>"hurr durr the clippers have been better" >"herr yeh kiwi, we no worry bout shadow of l.a."
my goodness, unprofessional, but what do you expect from an unprofessional franchise.
My wife and I are 26. We live in Wisconsin. Between the two of us we pull in a little over 150k a year. I only work about 35 hours week. My wife works about 40. I work in Insurance/Finance and she works in Tech. I would argue we both work “Real Jobs”.
All this celebrating from the claps, meanwhile down the hall, one man is brewing his ultimate comeback SZN. Enjoy losing, kawhi, you fuck, because you're going to be losing for a looong time. I can't fucking wait till the season starts. Lakers in 3.
The Cloppers building their own arena is the best news I heard in my entire life. Finally they can get the fuck out of Staples and take their selfies with them.
Only problem is that the arena will finish in 2024 when they will be in rebuild mode after getting 0 chips and Kawhi leaving their bum asses to go play for my rapties again.
players heads too far up they own ass. scared of hurting they legacy or getting injured like PG stupid ass. he play stormcloaks too often and think milk drinker is some bad thing.
wow sounds like the clippers are really in ur head, u kno what helps? killing urself....
Daniel Young
come on man that aint like you. be cool.
Luke Bennett
u jknko what? ur right...
I just wanted to say I'm sorry for and thanks to for calling me out, I'm a trip which means i'm a thought leader of this board and i need to lead by example....
Thomas White
They had a chance if Kevin Love stayed, now they lack shooters, passers, and efficient post scorers.
Lincoln Gray
>Pau
Jace Wright
Which NBA player has the biggest cock?
For me, it's Westbrook. Imagine that man destroying your wifes pussy. JFC
Christian Robinson
I finished law school. Try as little as possible and just focus on networking. They want your money so they will not even feign failing you. Ride your C's and solid networking to a job rather than actually trying. Law School is bullshit and every case you study is fully summarized and mapped out online. Give no effort, broseph.
Justin Thompson
just had another sucessful slide 300 posts thread on /pol/ bros
>not rating Ibaka its like you know nothing of nba cocks good man
Cameron Thompson
how long into the season will rockshits fans turn on westbrook?
Lincoln Moore
Just as fast as they quit on Melo.
Joseph Barnes
>kidd >curry >stockton >lillard >westbrook >iverson >nash >it1 >gary payton >jason williams >tim hardaway >mark jackson >andre miller >damon stoudemire
Tyler Anderson
yes all those bruhs are worse than cp3...
Dominic Ortiz
Studies show taller men are less likely to have an above average penis, Rodman has a small penis and Magic was insecure about rumors spreading about his manhood being unimpressive.
Brayden Nelson
cp3 has never won shit. He is nothing but a whiney cry baby bitch who has flamed out of literally every team he has ever been on. Meanwhile Curry is the best shooter of all time and a 3x nba champion. and that isn't even to talk about Magic or Nash or AI. Steve Francis was literally better than prime cp3. You're just a homer faggot, cp3 is total trash and makes his teams worse. t. has been to a conference final once hahahahaa
Jaxson Rogers
ur delusional bruh hahahahahahhaahahahahahah
Kayden Barnes
curry the only one on that list better than CP3 and even that will only be certain when his career is over...
Sebastian Turner
wern't you the fat guy in the clippers jersey at the anime expo? hahahah fucking neck beard. who the fuck lives in LA and watches anime
Jack Adams
Cancelling Players Only is blatant racism.
Lincoln Green
jokes on u bruh I live in SF Hahahahahahahah....
Logan Cook
>YWN hear Baron Davis call Jokic the white Shaq in front of Shaq again
Player Impact Plus Minus (PIPM) and Real Plus Minus (RPM) are better than Box Plus Minus but BPM has just been around longer. Luckily CP3 ranks very well in the more improved modern advanced statistics so it can be assumed that he is one of the best we've seen at the 1 position. A true generational talent if I might say.
literally say anything that will make her vaginal crevice excrete liquids. if you dont wish to be a virgin any longer, that is
David Williams
does he still have some in the tank?
Eli Martinez
if I'm cute enough do you think any girls at my college will like the quiet mysterious type?
Joshua Rogers
how do I get a 6pack bros?
tired of carrying a keg....
David Gonzalez
sure as long as you keep up with your hygiene
Nathan Thompson
the standard rule is that anyone who played with/against kobe is too old >quiet mysterious type? might be read as psycho killer
Connor Barnes
abs are made in the bathroom. literally buy a few bottles of laxatives. before and after every meal. and if you really WANT it, then youd consider bulimia.
Bentley Mitchell
dont really know much about basketball so excuse my ignorance, but this guy is being hailed as the messiah himself here for the past few days since he helped his team win the u20 eu championship, claiming hes going to be drafted in the first round next year etc etc. what's the chance for someone like him actually doing well against 6'10 nigs from east coast? is the sports media here just circlejerking?
gonna unplug for awhile see you guys in a couple months
Samuel James
cant fucking believe the slander bros. if my raptor was an underdog before ....
Chase Scott
Leave while you can and don’t look back
Isaac Flores
He's legit, his dad is Goranac used to pay for the Yugoslavian national team. There was even some talks that Deni Avdija wanted to play for Serbia but in the end he had to play for Israel since he grew up there and served the military there or something like that. He kinda reminds me of Bodiroga, just more athletic. He's going to be a top 5 draft pick for sure and I can see him having an impact in the NBA.
Bentley Gray
see you tomorrow
Joseph Young
>this guy is being hailed as the messiah himself >u20
How does it feel for 76ers fans to know that theyre losing their head strength and conditioning coach Todd Wright to the Clippers just because Ballmer is buying him out? Like Ballmer just showed up and said “hey heres twice what youre making now, come work for me”.
ikr it's way too early, but hey clippers fans need to stop treating people like this, it's an outrage!
Lucas Foster
almost to 500!
Thomas Reed
489
Eli Baker
490
Aiden Ramirez
Is that what Simmons shooting the ball actually looks like? Fuck that form is ugly. Literally Joakim Noah-tier.
Jeremiah Nguyen
>Lakers in 3 You mean when they surrender after Anthony Day-to-Dayvis gets a booboo and lebron gets another groin strain from the rest of the team hanging off his jock? Probably a solid choice. Honestly, I would rather my team just bow out of the league rather than risking starting Jared Dudley.
Luis Richardson
Braps per minute
Alexander Hall
Al Horford is Phillies best 3 point shooter. Let that sink in
Dylan Scott
4 languages arent that much to be honest. Greek and English are expected anyways. So you just bring two languages to the table, and they better be Japanese, Russian or Arabic.
Is there any reason why the Washington Wizards are still a basketball team? Are they even rebuilding with Walls career virtually over? Who the fuck is running that shitshow?