>Chicago Cubs 1. Kyle Schwarber (L) LF 2. Javier Baez (R) SS 3. Kris Bryant (R) 3B 4. Anthony Rizzo (L) 1B 5. Albert Almora Jr. (R) CF 6. Jason Heyward (L) RF 7. Robel Garcia (S) 2B 8. Victor Caratini (S) C 9. Yu Darvish (R) P
1. Brandon Belt (L) 1B 2. Buster Posey (R) C 3. Pablo Sandoval (S) 3B 4. Alex Dickerson (L) LF 5. Brandon Crawford (L) SS 6. Mike Yastrzemski (L) RF 7. Kevin Pillar (R) CF 8. Joe Panik (L) 2B 9. Madison Bumgarner (R) P
Game notes ▩ Start Time: 8:45pm CST ▩ Gametime Temp: 65°F ▩ Chance of Precip: 0% ▩ Chicago Cubs sent LHP Cole Hamels on a rehab assignment to Iowa Cubs. ▩ Chicago Cubs optioned RHP Alec Mills to Iowa Cubs. ▩ Chicago Cubs selected the contract of LHP Tim Collins from Iowa Cubs.
imagine being a position player and they take you out so Daniel “Batting worse than Lester and Hendricks” Descalso can pinch hit, and then he gets on base
Eli Campbell
>Uniform doesn't have your name on it Is there a more demeaning and soulless thing in baseball?
Landon Gomez
Time for Kintzler to prove he can be the 7th spot or set up man.
He chucked that ball to first base like it was kale.
Josiah Myers
HAHA TIME FOR DICK
Aaron Carter
this could hurt bros :(
Kevin Lee
>Russell Considering the massive fuck up he already did today and how pissed Maddon was, he'll probably be sent down the minors next if the Cubs trade for someone or get Zobrist back.
russell has a mediocre .733 ops - not very good zobrist, before the cuckening, had a .596 ops, which is absolutely awful
sounds like a hell of a downgrade there
Chase Moore
P i l l a r I L L A R
Caleb Sanchez
Are you retarded? Zobrist has been dealing with the his wife before the season began and that's why his performance has been awful, it finally came to ahead and he's been on the restricted list. Russell on the other hand couldn't be clutch if you told him if he delivered, he'd be free from having to pay alimony.
Also it's not cuckoliding either, jesus christ you newfags just use whatever terms you think are popular regardless of context. I bet you think it's the same thing as NTR, and enjoy that too. Sick fuck.
>Baez flies out >Bryant strikes out Welp, Cubs better keep this game going for 2 more innings to have another chance of scoring.
So sick of the Giants relievers Fucking up Madbums starts!
Adam Howard
>Are you retarded? Nope Zobrist is garbage this season, and he's not getting any younger or any better in his old age.
Russell has a ton more upside than Zobrist has left, and costs a fraction of the salary.
Nolan Evans
Panik finna choke
Brayden Anderson
>missing a bunt
time to hit the panik button and send this guys straight to AA
Juan Young
>1 inch from being a walk off home run. I see this is going to be one of those games.
>Nope Someone didn't hear what Russell did today. His head is on the chopping block and Zobrist might be old, but he's still an wily old veteran who can deliver in clutch spots. It depends on if he can get this divorce dealt with.
>an wily old veteran who can deliver in clutch spots oh like the scalso is supposed to be...
Jonathan Allen
don't have any more nails to bite
Gabriel Wood
what did he do today? you mean his idiocy from last night? yes, he's a dumbfuck and is too stupid to learn basic baserunning signs zobrist sucked in april and hasnt played in 3 months - he'd be useless even if he comes back - a more expensive downgrade both offensively and defensively as compared to russell
Lucas Cook
Giants Fucked up by not trading him last year. They could have gotten a haul or prospects. This year he has no real value. They would be lucky to get one good prospect in a trade.
Ethan Wood
HNNNNG
Brandon Rogers
this reminds me of the 2016 NLDS
Julian Cook
LOL walking Belt to get to Posey.
How far this cat has fallen...
Cooper Lopez
seashaq finna choke this
Thomas Allen
yeah man. everything that is happening could be worse lel. >400+ foot bomb to center results in an out >wild pitch just hits posey instead of going past him
Sebastian Morales
Penny man to pop fly tasty cake man. t. future
Luke Williams
>trying to crack Buster's kneecap >to bring up hamdoval
well done, steve
Ryan Cox
>FUCK THE CUBS FUCK THE CUBS >FUCK THE CUBS FUCK THE CUBS >FUCK THE CUBS FUCK THE CUBS >FUCK THE CUBS FUCK THE CUBS >FUCK THE CUBS FUCK THE CUBS
The fact that Maddon refuses to defend him anymore is pretty damning. If you're to stupid to run the basics signs after how many years, how can you be expected to do more? You can complain about Zobrist, but at least he knows how to play the game, and again, can and did come up clutch this season. (Extra inning Dbags game.) The other thing to notice is none of Russell's teammates are rushing to defend him by my knowledge, that's not a good sign.
5 good boy points have been deposited into your baseball social credit score,
Robert Sanders
Point being, Zobrist is not an upgrade, or even replacement level for Russell. Garcia seems to be doing well enough at 2nd, and would be my current everyday choice, so long as he continues to hit. Swapping Happ and Russell works too, assuming Happ isnt still garbage
Brayden Lewis
You left out the fact that Zo doesn't suffer from fetal alcohol syndrome.
They tried to rehab the bitch slapper at every turn, which is smart business. Sunk cost fallacy when?
Isaac Barnes
Posey pissed now
Pushing the ump outta the way and ready to gun down players at first
Lincoln Cooper
I'm pretty sure Theo spent all off season trying pawn Russell off and no one bit.
And you're basing that off of statistics of this year when you damn well know Zobrists' numbers were down because he was dealing with the issue with his ex wife. You can make all the excuses in the world, but his state of play recently has been abysmal.
russell is good defensively and has good upside. Before his injury and suspension last year he was hitting upwards near .290
Henry Scott
>his state of play recently has been abysmal. And still statistically miles ahead of Zobrist, which tells you all you need to know. But by all means, bring Zobrist back and let him take spring training swings in August.
Anthony James
If by future hall of famer, sure.
John Garcia
He's on schedule to return before the end of the season, but that's if there are no more setbacks.
So, I'd guess not.
Joshua James
yes, in a good way
forgot about this guy tbf
Jace Morgan
Disagree, the time off is a plus. You can't teach them class. He is getting slightly better with more time.
Camden King
Is that Kris
Dominic Morris
Not with his current state of play and the sheer amount of mental errors. Maybe someone will slap his shit and he'll get things back in order. But if I had the option, I'd still take Zobrist since he's proven himself.
he hasn't been getting consistent play time and that's not really because he was bad to start off but because of the controversy at the beginning of the season
Jayden Miller
>Bote >Caratini >ruselel
looks like a debate is about to get settled also does Kimbrel use tar? he has this dark spot on the top of his bill and every pitch he licks his fingers, touches the back of his neck/hair, then touches the dark spot
Daniel James
carrot man with a couple of hits today
Jack Turner
Baseball gods will make the umps pay for not calling it a homer
Inc. 14 inning game
Jaxon Diaz
That's a lot of noise for a ground ball.
Nathaniel Sanders
that shit on his hat is likely rosin
Christopher Price
Yeah, because you'd really want to have a contract with Russell given his agent. Also, I'm working with the options at hand. Don't try and create a strawman.
2nd base is anyone's to take as Maddon said. Also he's had plenty of play time in previous years, this isn't like Almora who's had to ridden the bench and fight for play time. And it's not like he had to just sit on the couch either.
No strawman. The cubs are better off without Zobrist and his contract. Russell/Garcia/Bote are all better options, and if one of them needs replacing give Happ another shot.
Sebastian Torres
cant wait to see Lester pinch hit in the 15th
I think it was to get Maldonado reps with the staff. hes really good at catching, but useless at hitting
Nolan Morgan
>Almora another player not hitting nearly as well as Russell
Henry Martinez
>Happ >People are still deluded in believing his AAA numbers will translate into the Majors. He'd be lucky to hit above .200 with how he's currently doing.
Benjamin Peterson
there's a bag full of rosin on the mound
Jack Ward
at least he'd be slugging better than almora.. and have a better obp than almora
Bentley Jenkins
damn it I thought he would've called that a strike again
Wyatt Nelson
>6 clean innings from the pen where has this been?
Cameron Ross
When the FUCK are people gonna learn how to go oppo on the shift!?!?
Yes it was, you were clearly implying that by wanting Zobrist, I'd be already with signing a bunch of old veterans with heavy contracts. That's clearly not the case. And we don't know how Zobrist will preform if he comes back quite frankly. Maybe he'll be absolute shit, or he'll go as the leaf says and become 'Punished Zo, a man denied his 'Benny and the Rockets' and he'll go back to delivering the big hits in clutch spots like we know him for. Given the current musical chairs arrangement I'd rather give him a shot.
At least he actually has an excuse in not getting rep time. Unlike Russell.
This Maldonado is a really good game manager, something Caratini and Contreras are more lacking in since they're both still pretty young. And the only other Catcher is Taylor Davis and he's forever AAA tier. But yes, with Maldonado, they're sacrificing offense for defense. How is Maldonado's pitch framing anyway?
>Dude, just ignore how you've done things all your life and do it entirely differently. Oh no, it's retarded.
Nathan Gomez
>Anyone in the Bay want to party on Friday? Me and you
No
Ian Howard
>Sam Niggercock
Jordan Perry
Wait, it was Benny and the Jets. That also does pose another question, what will Zobrist's walk up music be if he returns.
Ayden James
>implying that by wanting Zobrist, I'd be already with signing a bunch of old veterans with heavy contracts. Yes, by chosing a veteran whose numbers have fallen off a cliff and hasnt played in months over a young dumb and superior athlete, you are using the mentality that results in a team filled with players who are chosen for their past performance and not their current or future performance.
Mason Diaz
>Baez strikes out >Bryant strikes out >Rizzo is 0-5
It's still constrained. They aren't the Yankees or Red Sox who just disregard the Luxury tax. That's the reason Descalso was the Cubs big off season free agent signing, because their payroll is currently constrained.
with respect to the moneyball argument, the cubs are not constrained by payroll - they arent forced to look to the farm for every upgrade, they can buy them like kimbrel or hamels or heyward
and can even afford to upgrade replacements when they dont work out like chatwood or morrow
but its never better to drop better younger players for old vets
Gavin Green
GG cusb Giants win the series and go for the sweep tomorrow
Bentley Evans
Jewish media wants you to root against the Giants
Luis Campbell
well looks like you guys may not actually sell anymore, gg
Lucas James
Your argument was that the Cubs aren't constrained by payroll, I have proven they are, you're now in damage control and projecting moving the goalposts as a result. They can make some money moves, but it's not indefinite, seeing as the Cubs are saddled with what some people say are bad contracts. And again you go back to the strawman where you assume I'd also choose the vet over the young player when I already stated it's a case by case. I think I'll just hedge my bets on this since we'll never come to an understanding given your use fallacies. So if Russell does well, great, helps the team. But if he continues to screw up, I'll rub it in your face Mr saberetrics, Or, I'll even be nice, would you prefer that, statfag or Mr Moneyball. I'll let you choose.
>So if Russell does well, great, helps the team. But if he continues to screw up, I'll rub it in your face Mr saberetrics, Or, I'll even be nice, would you prefer that, statfag or Mr Moneyball. Even if he simply continues to play as he has - not in the last 3 games, but as a whole this year, he's a better option than Zobrist.
Liam Rogers
Then give me your preferred name of the three I listed if you're not confident. Or is this just bluster on your part?
As mentioned above, Garcia is my choice for everyday 2nd base as long as he continues to hit (until pitchers figure him out). Then Bote, when he's not on 3rd. Then Russell, and I'd also use him as a late inning defensive sub at 2nd. Also, the cubs are paying luxury tax this year.
Wyatt Reed
>Still not answering my question. Guess you're going to force me to pick for you. And here i am trying to be nice.
>Also, the cubs are paying luxury tax this year. And? It's something they're trying to avoid and it's why Theo can't make any more big signings.
They have the highest active payroll in the majors, so they obviously dont have budget constraints that force them to make moneyball sacrifices.
Your argument is that because they already spend more than every other team (for active roster), they cant go spend even more.
But arguing that the team that is at the top of mlb salaries faces the same payroll constraints of a midmarket team is simply dishonest. With respect to moneyball, the cubs are as unconstrained as any team in the league.
Liam Sanders
There is no salary cap though so they can spend as much as they want. Which is the only way you can interpret 'cubs are not constrained by payroll'. Also you're putting words in my mouth, I never said they can't spend any more, I've just been pointing out the flaws in your arguments. Hense we're back at your original claim 'cubs are not constrained by payroll' Which is easily refuted if you look at how they have dealt with signings during the off season and this season. You can try and get into semantics, but what the Cubs are currently doing speaks for itself Mr Moneyball.
They dropped a ton on Kimbrel just a month ago which put them at the top of the salary list.
Daniel Long
They only did that because Zobrist went on the restricted list, which means they don't have to pay him. If he was still on the payroll, Ricketts would never have allowed the signing.
Cooper Smith
>digits Well there you are, another on the many reasons why Zobrist should stay retired.
Actually it means they can bring him back and tell Ricketts to fuck himself since as you said, they're already over the tax. Win win. You can't argue with the quints.
Eli Butler
except you have to give him a roster spot and he doesnt deserve one but if he can do some sort of extended rehab start for 6 weeks in desmoines - and he doesnt still like look a broken 38 year old retiree & 2nd base is still a problem, then why not
John Davis
Give him Russell's spot. And we're back where we started Mr Moneyball.
