One Argentina league title

>one Argentina league title
>a couple of cups with Barcelona
>gives Napoli two Serie A titles and an UEFA Cup
>one summer tournament for his national team
>...
>that's it

Is this the GOAT!?

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>le coq sportif
based

No Pedro has better titles

This is why casuals who only look at a players wiki page to see how many titles he won should stay out of the "who's GOAT" discussions

Why is he considered better than Pele? Is it because he played in Yurope while Pele played in Brazilian league? I don't get it because wasn't the Brazilian league considered the strongest league back then?

Pele played in a far more dominant NT, so they inflate Maradona's only achievements by creating a myth he singlehandedly carried these teams to titles.

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Football was less developed when Pele played.
On the other hand, Pele played in a time when job of defenders was to break strikers legs, so it balances out.

what? I'd say football was a lot more violent and physical during Maradona's time

>the most fouled player in wc history
really makes you think

Yeah no wonder

Maradona's 86-94 teams are actually good or great. Pelé when push comes to shove is Pre-Bosman rule.

In the '60 brazilian league was the best in the world and highly competitive. While today every good brazilian player is in Europe, back than almost all of them played in Brazil.
>football less developed
Of course and it was much less competitive world-wide (5-0, 7-3, 4-2 results were much more frequent back then), but also the balls, the shoes, the fields, the training techniques were much less developed, as well defenders were infinitely more brutal (rules to protect players and games beauty started in the early '90). There are pros and cons that in the end balance themselves.

>Pre-Bosman rule
so were Maradona's teams. the bosman case was decided in 1995.

That leaves the critics and fans whether they rate Pelé 1962 Achievements against Maradona's 1986 Achievements.

>wasn't the Brazilian league considered the strongest league back then?
>In the '60 brazilian league was the best in the world and highly competitive

LOL NO

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That's because in this time we didn't care for anything in South America, just things against europeans, that's why Brazil won 3 WC out of 4

I mean, brazilian teams at this time used to send the usual subs to play in the initial team. Brazilian teams only started to care for Libertameme in the 80s

1962-63 Santos wasn't better than 1968-69 Estudiantes.
Marketing played a big role.

No one remembers 1963 Boca and they did a good couple of matches against Pelé.

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>Brazilian teams only started to care for Libertameme in the 80s
You are reaching Mexico levels of conspiracy and cope with that post.
Literally sending Pelé to both finals knowing that they were going to murderball him.

Nerman overtook him as the most fouled player.

You can interpret it as defenders being aggressive towards him or simply him milking for fouls.

its said by argentinian boss that the 1964 was bought the linesman against pele santos, argentina cared about libertadores more and was corrupt as fuck, dont cry now.

Titles don't make the player. This is why no one rates Pedro, and why Cristiano can win 3 more in a row and still will never be better than Messi or di Stefano

>says the birth country of Havelange

you're one autistic fuck. you've been spamming these vid's for 6 months straight you weirdo

This is why you cannot discuss shit with Hues.
They are alergic to actual facts and arguments.

Like points out, they can have the literal FIFA president for decades and still will cry that somehow "the argies stole it".

TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

That's a CLEAR foul (and penalty).

Messsstsuuuu is the GOAT