>outside of the "big 3" clubs, most teams actually don't have many supporters at all
>teams actually having decent local support like Guimarães and Famalicão is the exception rather than the rule
This sounds like the most awful league possible. People here in England attend games down to like the 6th tier, yet you can't even get decent support in your first tier?????
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why would anyone want to support those loser teams?
Because they are your local club, rooted in your community for more than a century.
Benfica, Sporting and Porto are local clubs for 90% of the population
Everyone lives or works in Porto or Lisbon
No one works in other cities?
based retard
10%
He's got you there lad
Thats why we need you to watch /ourleague/ or it will be gone
it could 1%. they still work in other cities. based retard
famalicao doesnt even have a decent support, they only managed to fill 5000 seats when they were going up
only guimaraes and to a lesser extent braga can manage to get good attendences, even though clubs like paços, boavista, and famalicao are improving and making measures towards that
blatant lie, retard moor
estado novo porpaganda had everyone rooting for the 2 lisbon clubs
when the regime ended the harm was done and most people had a bandwagon mentality, which explains why when Porto started winning more than the other 2 even lisbon moors started "supporting" Porto
Soccer leagues popularity in continental Europe is a fucking meme. The biggest soccer club in Germany only averages 1 mil tv audience per game.
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Here literally every game of Aussie rules and rugby league will average over a million tv audience and 38k attendance across the 23 round season.
Pretty sure only the English actually watch their league.
For me, it's pastel de Belém.
you're league is the Globohomo normie league
so no thanks, I will watch THEIR league instead.
>born in shithole nowhere with their club that has been in the third division for twenty years
>get a job in Lisbon and move there
>suddenly start supporting Sporting
There is absolutely no fucking excuse for this, it's textbook plastic support. Just because the cities are more populated doesn't mean people are actually FROM them, most of them will have moved. Pretty much every major city has birth rates below replacement level, their population increases because people move there when they become adults. And that's not when you "pick" your team.
If everyone is moving to those cities then they're probably having their families there too. It's only natural kids born there will support Lisbon if their games are the easiest to attend
miss me with that gay shit, non-european scum
i couldn't care less about my local team
>kids born there
I already alluded to the fact that even if big cities account for 90% of the population, I guarantee they don't make up even 80% of births. Yet you can be sure these clubs get disproportionate support anyway.
Also supporting a different team to yer da is just completely unbased.
Same thing with every country where just a few teams get almost all the support honestly. Scotland being one of the worst examples.
This I remember Guimaraes having a good attendance bs the big 3 last season. It angers me that they sometimes don't do what they are capable of in europa league.
For me its Pacos de Ferrerira
>Famalicão is the exception
lmao, they're benfiquistas most of them, only remembered they got a local club when Mendes and his buddies started investing in the club
You're forgetting Marítimo
For me it's torta de Azeitão
What's a typical attendance between two no mark relegation fodder teams in Portugal?
The biggest factor on which team you support is who your family supports. Harm was done in the past, we're a smallish and very centralized country
Somewhere between 1.5k and 2k
For me, it's natas do céu.
This user is right.
If you take lisbon and porto, the other cities that have big population is:
>Setubal and they have a good local team support
>North coast , where you have teams like Guimaraes, Braga, and you can put Academica there as well
>And then you have Algarve, with Portimonense and Farense
The rest of Portugal is almost empty, and then there is retarded people that are, for example, from Alentejo and supports Benfica or Sporting and you have people from Bragança who roots for Porto
Grim.
And there's worst, people from Lisbon who supports FCPorto, or people from Porto who supports Benfica
AML - 3M
AMP - 2M
That makes it 50% and I'm being generous.
Denmark, Ireland, Greece have it worse and I'm not sure they don't have local support in their leagues
>from Lisbon who supports FCPorto
Almost exclusively immigrants
Not exactly, im from Lisbon, all my family is from Lisbon, and i end up with two uncles, who supports FCP
I'm also from Lisbon and never met such a case
I have an uncle from the North, but he moved to lisbon when he was young, got a family, and had children, grandchildren and greagrandchildren. All of them portistas. He went to Vienna and everything
50 years ago the joke in my town was that they were the only Portistas in the South
Well that makes sense. See: .
>Big 3
Is it really a "big 3"? Is Sporting at the same tier than Benfica and Porto?
it's for historical reasons, they were the strongest team for a long period of time between the 30s and 50s
Yes
Not really, but they are the other team without being Benfica or Porto who have some championships
They were the strongest in the 40s and 50s, and in the 60s and most of the 70s Benfica used to win three leagues in a row and then Sporting.
nobody lives outside of Porto and Lisbon apart from 80 year old fishermen, the students in Coimbra, and the retired Nigels and Helens in the Algarve
Aren't Belenenses in Lisbon as well? Why don't they get decent support?
They were impressive chokers in the 50s, way more than Porto, and all their supporters are over 70 years old now
>my sense of self worth depends on making some fat Tory wealthier no matter what shit his team produces just because all he other lads I failed out of school with do too
>not including tv ratings
Poortugal
Was this a good result Portubros?
Lots of youth in Braga and its surroundings
Well I Would support my local club if it wasn’t playing in the 4th tier division.
I am forced to support Portimonense which is the nearest club to me playing in the first division.
But here’s the thing, my father was a Benfica fan, my grandmother was a Benfica fan, since I was a kid I always supported Benfica, and that will never change, but I still support the club nearest to me which also represents my region since it’s the only club from my region playing in the first division.
O Farénse é que é o clube do Algarve, seu marafade
Ehh eu tive um familiar que trabalhava no Portimonense e por isso sempre preferi o Portimonense ao Farense, bem ele agora já não trabalha lá porque o Porto comprou aquela merda toda e esse familiar teve de ir, mas mesmo assim continua a ser para mim o clube do Algarve.
My whole family supports porto but I support boavista because I lived all my life near the stadium. I also played in the panterinhas when I was a kid.
I spent some weeks in Espinho and is not a bad place to live (except for the average salaries there...)
>I also played in the panterinhas when I was a kid.
Any wonderkids your scum team is going to sell to Benfica?
Para mim, é a cona das vossas mães.
Lads, I'm from Ribatejo, which club do I support?
gonçalo cardoso. But I dont approve selling good players to anyone, especially any of the big 3.
>he doesn't know
abola.pt
I know about him, but did you play with him or anyone famous?
It was so long ago... I only remember a ngubu called Ismael, great norf lad.
Ramalho Eanes supports Porto
I don't think Saramago supported anyone except maybe Spartak Moscow or Atletico Lanzarote CD, and I don't know anyone else from Ribatejo
Espinho is Oporto metropolitan area
We should revive tugão when matches start again. Right now there is nothing big to talk
>fucking Gil Vicente hasn't even got a stadium
>will remain in Primeira thanks to buying memes and Vitor Oliveira anyway
>We should revive tugão when matches start again
That's the plan. First real match will be Super Taça on the 4th of August.
>there is nothing big to talk
There is: Boavista
How do we fix Sporting?
cheering on rio ave purely for this lad
Based
I was there today. Shitty match
>it's real
got a yikes from me
And still we're with 74 posts in ~4hours
This ain't /tugão/
Sure but the posters are the same
Who is the Slippy G of the Primeira Liga?
>tfw actually went to see Alverca's games before they got JUST
lifelong Mantorras fan here
Business idea: iberian cup
Or league. As long as we get the shekels.
Will Gibraltar be invited?
I went to an AFL game not 2 months ago & the stadium was fucking empty compared to a european 1st tier league game
>
Just saying this was the year that really made Liga NOS take off in Yea Forums. Based Sporting.
We have that problem here everyone (90%) supports Liverpool or United
Bryan Ruiz
Just to show foreign bros why this miss was so important
But William was the one that actually slipped
Also: reminder that Éderson touches it
Is taca da liga a meme?
we call it the taça benfica, or taça que ninguem liga.
The rest of Portugal is literally farms,fishing towns, or tourist hotbeds. You ain't fidning professional jobs in those places.
>farming
>fishing
>Portugal
Did you visit the country in the 70's?
Tirando a pesca, a agricultura ainda é uma indústria enorme em Portugal.
Interesting enough, outside of the 5 big leagues, italy, germany, france, spain, englel, portugal has the strongest clubs
Also very good footy youth academy if not the best in eu
They are based when it comes to footy, despite me not being fan of any of their big names
>Famalicão
lmao, their ultra's capo also supports Sporting
Marítimo has good attendances but it's mostly from Benfica/Sporting/Porto fans who can't afford to go to mainland games. Notice that Nacional, a team with way less supporters than Marítimo, always brings a lot more fans to away games
They used to be the best team in Portugal until the early 50's, but nowadays most people don't rate their title hopes very seriously. You can still say they are part of the big 3 though, mostly because the gap between Sporting and say Braga/Guimarães/Boavista is still way bigger than the one with Benfica/Porto
Well, Belenenses is only really supported in the Belém area, which is quite an ellitist area. They are actually losing fans at the moment because zoomers here only want to support teams that win (i.e not Belenenses)
based panterinhas
portuguese mickey mouse cup
Pretty sure one of the portugal clubs have good relations with croatian clubs
Which portugal club should i cheer for?!
>a agricultura é uma enorme indústria
E em comparação com quem?
Benfica sort of has a relation with Hajduk Split
i was going to say benfica but they have alot of serbian players too. boavista also uses checkered kits like croatia
Get rid of the serbs and you have a new fan
Hehe
>Italia, Holanda, França, Austria, Irlanda, Suécia, Alemanha, Bélgica, Suiça, Reino Unido, Luxemburgo
Literalmente toda a UE.
If you support Dinamo, you also support based Porto by default
>comparar a miserável economia portuguesa com a de qualquer um desses países
>11 países em 28 são toda a UE
I just support our NT
If i had to choose it would be dinamo
Why porto? Good relations?
I recall a portuguese got beat up in a cafe in Split because he was wearing a Porto shirt
>11 países em 28 são toda a UE
São os maiores e mais importantes da UE. Só falta a Espanha.
I think Fejsa will be sold so now only Zivkovic remains - and he's a fucking disappointment
Sim burro do caralho as maiores economias não têm grande agricultura. Nós somos uma economia frágil E com pouca agricultura
Ah e a Suíça não faz parte da UE burrão
Because Benfica fans are bff with Torcida, so it would be logical to choise their main rival I guess
Não vale a pena estares a chamar-me burro do caralho quando provaste que Portugal tem uma dimensão agrícula maior que a média Europeia.
Irrelevante, é lá que são escondidos os impostos das cenouras.
A média é 1.5%, Portugal tem 2%.
A média do PIB per capita é 38 000USD, Portugal tem 21 000.
Percebes onde quero chegar?
Id probably get beat up there too if i yelled 1 wrong word
Nobody attacks you here for being nice... That being said the brits deserve every beating they get
He was beaten by Benfica supporters
Kek
Ok so benfica are tight bros with hajdug
I dont really care but since i live in zg prolly porto then
if you ever need people to fill ya, give me a call
>benfica
>white
And somebody will reply to me with the nigger of the Porto/Sporting short with filename Dragarto, a clever joke
>inb4 either rent free or seething
Just want to skip predicatble cringe memes
oh no no no
hhahahahahahaahahaha
Funny because Torcida is pretty racist, they even held up a banner saying "Maksimir ZOO" when >we started the trend of signing Ngubus in Croatia.
Hajduk
Pls no bully
That image is used to prove Sporting and Porto are barely rivals. I'm proud of the Portuguese colonial war taking a break when Benfica was playing
Santinho
Lobo Antunes is a great writer, but a disgusting human being who should have been shot in the gut by some MPLA and slowly bleed to death
>People here in England attend games down to like the 6th tier
Why does it matter? All you do on the terraces is sighing and singing some songs foreigners that play in you leagues can’t understand
lmao
Why are Russians so fucking miserable
What's the other 10%, Arsenal and other assorted teams?
yeah, by moors, not based croats
its boavista
>"barely rivals"
>completely destroys you for over 30 years now
lmao, you cucks do know that thats a meme right?
the main team in mozambique is sporting, and Porto is fast becoming, if nt already is the top team in angola
daily reminder that moreirense, 6th place in this years liga, only had 2275 average attendance
also, the lisbon clubs cheat their attendance figures, a well known fact that can be observed easily in most matches against cannon fodder
The average salary in teams outside the top 3 is like 3 thousand euros per month. Their Football is shit.
I meant between each other. Also: last 10 years Benfica has the lead. Let's see the next 10.
>the main team in mozambique is sporting, and Porto is fast becoming, if nt already is the top team in angola
sauce
>small towns don’t average 50k in attendance
Wow, what a f-ing disgrace. I will immediately watch Premier League
Kek
But seriously, the team that ended in 6th this season, Moreirense, from Moreira de Conegos, has more seats in its stadium than people living in Moreira de Conegos
Many leagues are just 2 or 1, Serbia, Scotland, Spain etc.
I feel sad for them tbqh. They're part of Guimarães, so they already have few population and a big part supports Vitória so they'll never grow enough to be a top club
There are like 3000 people in Moreira de Conegos, 2275 is pretty good
We call it the Cope cup
Dragartos are and will forever be the cutest couple.
Benfica and losing European finals is cuter
Portugal has like 40 people in it
Tinha de vir o macaco
Or have a decent crest
Yeah but it also has 8 people abroad
for me it's Braga
Im doing a fm playthrough with Mondinense which is a Portuguese team in the third league. On my third season and in the midst of a title race, this is the most fun Ive had in football manager, love Portuguese football now.
Title race in Segunda right?
Countries with only one or two major cities shouldn't have domestic leagues. Belgium, Denmark, Portugal, Austria, Switzerland, Scotland, Netherlands, they should all just merge into an international league where they can play against clubs their own size every week instead of 4/38 times in a season.
Like, a league with a team in:
>Porto
>Lisbon
>Glasgow
>Edinborough
>Brussels
>Amsterdam
>Rotterdam
>Zurich
>Geneva
>Vienna
>Salzburg
>Copenhagen
>Prague
fill with similar places. right now these cities get stuck playing in shitty domestic leagues. Its like if sports in USA had state leagues and you had a huge city like Chicago that had to play against little towns in Illinois instead of playing against NYC and Los Angeles
you are not wrong buddy
Cringe and tryhard
>american opinions
Stick to your general, its better for both of us
>the main team in mozambique is sporting, and Porto is fast becoming, if nt already is the top team in angola
lmao
>people from Lisbon who supports FCPorto
younger people (and blacks for some reason, maybe theyre more prone to being glory hunters)
>people from Porto who supports Benfica
basically doesnt exist anymore, almost all that do have moved here from somewhere else
but in both cases its still wrong that it happens
>and blacks for some reason
Colonies.
nope younger people tend to do it due to nationwide bandwagon mentality
my cousins have cousins in lisbon, and they support either Porto (due to one of the oldest ones bandwagoning and the younger ones copying him) or brag (duo to one of the oldest ones spending a lot of her childwood with her minhoto grandparents and choosing a club that made her feel connect to Minho, and the younger ones copying her)
weird stuff really
already in the works pablo
>arouca finished 5th
what happened bros...
a really bad one at that
Lito magic
last 10 years you have 2 more titles, but we have an international title and had far better/more iconic seasons (2011/2013/2018)
last 10 years are a draw, and we still have the 30 previous years
also sauce=been there, talked to people
angola will keep changing, but mozambique is sporting country, due to eusebio having played for sporting lourenço marques (no one really cares than he played in benfica when he moved to europe)
thats in the one parish alone, the area of influence is bigger
i mean, how did it become so bad now
10 years: Benfica - 6; Porto -4
20 years: Benfica - 7; Porto - 10
30 years: Benfica - 9; Porto - 18
40 years: Benfica - 14; Porto - 20
50 years - Benfica - 20; Porto - 22
60 years (1959-1960 - 1968-1969; Porto didn't win anything in this time) - Benfica 28; Porto - 22
So who has dominated in the last half a century?
fuck pastel de Belém/natas
I waited in a line at the fucking place near the Jerónimos Monastery that’s supposed to be the best natas, for over an hour, and it was worse than some that was from a random bakery in the middle of the city
50% of games are on at the same time tbdesu
It's a trap that even some portuguese people fall on. Were they warm at least?
Based pole
We all learn from mistakes.
>angola will keep changing, but mozambique is sporting country, due to eusebio having played for sporting lourenço marques (no one really cares than he played in benfica when he moved to europe)
they don't even have tvs in their littles shacks
Now do Sporting
I can talk about São Tomé, where I was for one week: only saw Benfica shirts
I want flamengo to have a friendly with one of the 2 tops of portugal reeee
nope, it was definitely not fresh, and kind of bland compared to ones I had from the other bakery
I’m not an expert for sure so maybe the taste of natas isn’t supposed to be super cinnamon-y but I enjoyed the ones with a stronger cinnamon taste
>we need to go back 60 years to find a period where benfica dominted more
jesus what a joke of a club
For me, it's the Queijada de Sintra.
>Notice that Nacional, a team with way less supporters than Marítimo, always brings a lot more fans to away games
Not the case I usually see in Setúbal. Marítimo brings around 100 lads, mostly madeiran "diaspora" in Lisbon. Nac10nal barely brings any people. Santa Clara didn't bring anyone last year, but it was Christmas weekend so I figure they had all fucked off to their islands.
Have foreigners found out about tortas yet? Tortas taste like heaven.
>"the best X"
my fucking god, do you also fall for this shit in your country?
It's poor man's brasileirão
only because we enriched Brasileirão by sending this single man
Portugal population: 10 million
Lisbon population: 550,000
Porto population: 214,000
% of population from Porto or Lisbon: 8%
Average Liga NOS attendance: 210,453
Average attendance Porto, SLB and Porto: 129.141
As percenateg: 61.36%
LMAOOOOO
THAT IS FUCKING EMBARRASSING. EXPLAIN YOURSELF PORTUGESE BROS
>Lisbon population: 550,000
>Porto population: 214,000
That's only the municipality count. Metro area population is a more appropriate demographic measure for this case and it's
Lisbon MA population: 2,800,000
Porto MA population: 1,800,000
Percentage of both metro areas: 45%
never noticed that, i do notice that they stoped bring in people for the away stand, what you see are mostly madeirenses living in Porto or around, and most if not all follow maritimo
Porto's metro area is ridiculous, goes from Póvoa to Arouca and below, municipalities from other regions with no connection to Porto, while Paços, Lousada, and Penafiel, far more connected to Porto, but deserving of their own "Vale do Sousa" region, are left out
With some adjustment, I think you could include a few more towns in both areas and reach a combined 5M population. The key idea is that almost half of the Portuguese population lives around 2 cities. Beyond that, we got a smaller metro area around Braga, then Coimbra and Funchal, and I think these are the only cities over 100k outside the two main urban centres.
Even Poland knows.