Why yes, I'm Christian, how did you know?

brainlet post

That's a lot.

t. turk immigrant

>Catholicism is the only way
To eternal hellfire

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But then I'd be in favour of Catholicism?

Imagine being a German proddy.
>caused 30 years war
>caused WW1
>caused WW2
>caused Merkel
All that just because they have a fetish for getting raped by foreigners.

Imagine being German and, regardless of faith, believing any of those things to be true.

cringe

based

OP is muslim

Why do you believe in a make believe sky wizard when there is zero evidence for such a thing?

If I said I had a time machine but produced no evidence at all of this supernatural contraption, would you believe me?

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the 1970's called, it wants your strawman arguments back

The worst thing about German proddies is that after losing all the wars they start they always fled to catholic parts of Germany. After ww2 my hometown suddenly got its first lutheran church. And nowadays they act like they are native to these lands, the preposterous slimes. They are the lowest of the low, they are the Somalian rapefugees of the 20th century.

reeeeeeeeeeee

yes I'd believe you

H-hi.

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If you think my argument is a straw man then that means you think me characterising God as a "make believe sky wizard" is inaccurate. But that's not inaccurate at all. That's literally what Christians believe.

Really? Would you also believe me if I said I was secretly the world's richest man and my net worth is $500 trillion? Or any other outlandish, unverified, very-likely-to-be-false claim that you want to substitute.

nonce

your problem is that you are attacking the basis of religion, faith. that's dumb

*shits on his catholic ancestors*

Wtf, I love Giroud now.

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Christianism is the way to go, catholics practice/believe in stuff that isn't written in the bible, they are pretty much a crooked version of Christianism

explain

The bible is peak judaism, the further you stray from it the better.

the tragic thing is you genuinely believe you're being edgy, contrarian and clever when you're really aren't

Baptism, catholics used to baptise babies/young kids to ensure they would go to heaven because they used to have plagues in that time, when in reality getting baptised doesn't mean you'll go to heaven, it's just something you do because you're believer (another "order/task" to follow). They also spray water or drop it on top of their foreheads (none of those ways are written in the bible) instead of submerging the person underwater, like it was written. I sounded like catholicism = bad up there, my bad

You either have faith or you don't, no need to be salty over something you don't understand, if you don't believe it that's fine go on with your life, I don't understand why you're so mad over what other people choose to believe.

>let me tell you what christians believe
Religious traditions are but a tool and a roadmap to direct understanding, the symbology isn't perfect and doesn't claim to be. That's just what happens when you try to describe a higher principle by way of a lower one.

if you had a moment with jesus what would you do and what would jesus do

>the problem is that you've attacked my position right at its root, right at its core, and rendered the entire position unsupportable. that's unfair, i don't like that so you can't do it!
Lmao what? Yes, "faith" is a bad reason to believe anything and I've just explained why. How is this "dumb"? Is it "dumb" just because I've destroyed religion and you don't like it?

Is this supposed to be an argument? Is ad hominem garbage the only thing that Christcucks can come up with?

>you're either stupid or you're not
I mean yeah, I guess that's true, but I'm showing you why "faith" is so retarded. Do you want to still be retarded? Why don't you want to be smart, and why don't you want to believe in true things instead of fairy tales?

Does that mean I can still be a Christian even if I don't literally believe that Jesus was the son of God, and instead I just want to live by his values? Some Christians might be accepting of such a position, but I'm pretty sure most wouldn't. Most won't accept you as a Christian unless you believe that God literally exists and that Jesus was the son of God.

I'd take a video of him to show people that he was just a normal guy and not a "messiah", assuming I could take a camera to this back-in-time meeting.

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I ask him to greet Hitler for me. He then reveals he was Hitler all along.

Sorry bro, nobody is forcing you to believe anything. Do what you want to do but you're not gonna convince a single religious person to change their beliefs.

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kek

>leader of the church preaches against his own religion at every opportunity
Nice faith you got there

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also fun fact
Bulgaria's Patriarch is a rabid Dunav fan

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Who /ChristianToAtheistToChristian/ here?

>you're not going to convince me that water is H2O bro!
>you're not going to convince me that gravity exists bro!
>you're not going to convince me that the Earth is round bro!
>you're not going to convince me that 2 + 2 = 4 bro!
Is this because you're a thicko?

Not me because I'm not a thicko. I only believe things that have evidence supporting them.

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Why does it bother you that I believe in God? According to your logic that's good for you, less competition, less so called smart people in the world means better chances for you to succeed right? Bro whatever is causing you to seethe, be it your religious parents or a religious ex, forget about that shit, move on my dude

I am culturally catholic but agnostic theist

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>I'd take a video of him to show people that he was just a normal guy and not a "messiah", assuming I could take a camera to this back-in-time meeting.

cute, this is type of sentence I would say when I was a teen.

btw all you're doing right now is driven by your own arrogance. you can't help it, you have to show how you're more intelligent than the others

>I only believe things that have evidence supporting them.
then you don't believe, you "know"

youtube.com/watch?v=uU1taFr17QU

>According to your logic that's good for you, less competition, less so called smart people in the world means better chances for you to succeed right?
Where did I say that this is my motivation for wanting people to not believe stupid and untrue bullshit?

In any case, why do you believe in untrue bullshit bro? Do you believe that 2 + 2 = 5? Do you believe that the Earth is flat? Do you believe gravity is a lie?

>ad hominem
Do you really think that's an argument?

>you have to show how you're more intelligent than the others
I don't know about intelligent but I have shown why it is absurd to believe things without evidence. Do you still believe in outlandish claims without evidence, though? If I said I had a time machine but produced no evidence for this claim, would you believe me?

Not necessarily. To "know" something implies a very strong degree of confidence in a belief. I might not necessarily say that I *know* the Big Bang happened. Maybe it didn't. I'm not a scientist so I don't understand all of the relevant facts and information to such a degree that I'd feel confident saying that I *know* how the universe came into being. Instead I'll just say that I *believe* the Big Bang happened, with a certain degree of confidence, because this is what the evidence points towards.

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imagine spending this much time arguing for Le Science XD to strangers on a sports discussion board

Just for the record arithmetic addition is like that not because of a natural rule but because it was designed to be like that. There's no rule that 2 + 2 can be whatever you want it to be under different axioms.
Something as basic as modulo two arithmetic changes addition completely.

Even in nature, if you get one liter of water and one liter of sand (1 + 1) you don't get two liters of wet sand.

Please stop talking about shit you don't know anything about. t. mathfag

It's amazing how you spend every second of your life worrying about what other people believe in. Meanwhile I can live with peace in my heart, I hope you'll find peace in your heart one day as well man

>he trusts the judgement of scientists on something he doesn't understand
>somehow this suddenly doesn't apply to religious teachers that see higher truths he can't, and try to make them understandable for the masses

What a cuckold. Glad that Djokovic destroyed Pederer and made Giroud sad and seething.

>Ruse

what if he roots for djokovic?

>caused by catholics refusing to tolerate prods
>caused by (catholic) austrians
>caused by pagan larper retard
>pic related

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>a moment with you spas jesus
offensive

RIP
youtube.com/watch?v=91mbT03oHYw

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>inb4 brainlet can't into philosophy

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outstanding thread

nothing Catholics do is in the Bible. The Pope, lent, calling priests “father”; you’re not supposed to call anyone but god “the father”; even the bit about priests being celibate they made up. And the whole “pope is the closest person to God” thing completely goes against the ethos of Christianity, along with making no sense.

Do you call your father by his first name?

Caused by power hungry heretics starting a civil war
Caused by warmongering proddies escalating a conflict in the balkans
Caused by proddies seething over losing clay to catholic Poland voting NSDAP
Refugge crisis and fucking over eastern Europe caused by Merkel (proddy cunt)

This, Catholicism is far away from Christianity, two completely separate things

plebs

>ad hominem
Why do Christcucks think this is an argument?

>arithmetic is only defined to be a certain way, not because it is by nature true
>although it's unchangeable
So surely it is true by nature.

Anyway if you're trying to make a point about a priori and a posteriori being different things (I'm not even sure if that is the point you're trying to make, but it could be) then I'm not even sure they are. "2 + 2 = 4" is a statement about the empirical reality of the world. "2" (or "two") and "4" (or "four") are just descriptors for certain physical phenomena. Just like "water = H2O" is also a statement about the empirical reality of the world, and "water" and "H2O" are different descriptors (referring to the same thing in this case, of course, though in different ways).

>Even in nature, if you get one liter of water and one liter of sand (1 + 1) you don't get two liters of wet sand.
...why not? If you add 1 litre of water and 1 litre of sand then you should have 2 litres of a water and sand mix (that is, we sand), shouldn't you?

>you don't know anything
>ad hominem, yet again
Why on EARTH does every single Christcuck in this thread think that ad hominem is an argument?

>believing in nonsense to comfort yourself because you're a weak faggot
Why didn't you answer my questions? Do you believe that 2 + 2 = 5? Do you believe cars run on unicorn farts? Do you believe in Santa Claus? I'm guessing you do believe in this shit and various other nonsense, right?

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not gonna lie i never liked germans
but now this is too much

tl;dr

Utterly based

>It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven
>Half of these guys are millionaires
How do you justify this? If you're Christian, you CANNOT be rich.

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I understand many things about the universe, certainly not all things, and certainly not to the degree of scientists, but I understand things I've read and watched about. But furthermore there is plentiful evidence that the scientific method is a truth-producing methodology. We are all using computers right now. They work because of science. They don't work because God's farts make them work or whatever bullshit it is that you believe.

>religious teachers that see higher truths he can't
How about you get a vicar to make a working computer out of God magic and then I'll start believing your invented garbage, okay?

1. Ad hominem is not an argument
2. The Cosmological Argument, which is usually the favourite "argument" of most of the pre-scientific idiots that you are referring to in your post, is no better than my steaming shits when it comes to good arguments because you cannot define something into existence - you must provide physical evidence (visual, audible, electrical, magnetic, whatever) if you wish to argue that something exists
3. "Read this book" (which your image says) is also not an argument, I see this lazy non-argument garbage all the time and it will never been an argument no matter how many times lazy twats like you say it

You really are thick, aren't you?

If you are the first person I replied to I only gave you eight words to read. Is that too much for your little brain to handle?

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Haha yeah it's definitely not communism that hurt Eastern Europe, it's "proddies". I think we know where you hail from.

Good luck friend, with your life and all

>random brainlet Yea Forums anonymous poster disproved thousand years of philosophy
You must feel really proud. The funny thing is that your metaphysical materialism is a part of philosophy. What's even funnier is that you can't prove empirically that materialistic scientificism is the correct way of thinking.

Doesn’t look very Christian-like to me

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what sport is this?

>pretends to not be seething but keeps replying anyway
Lmao.

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>that britboi thinking we care about what he says lmao

You can be the biggest asshole there is but if you repent your sins, you'll be absolved.

Don't you find it ironic, that you're doing the same

You think two thousand year old philosophy is still true just because the guys who said it were respected two thousand years ago? Before we had science, and much better ways of understanding the universe?

So do you believe in Plato's Theory of Forms then? You believe in an existing Form of the Good and all that?

>The funny thing is that your metaphysical materialism is a part of philosophy
Right.................................... and that supports your God shit how?

>you can't prove empirically that materialistic scientificism is the correct way of thinking
You can support scientific claims with evidence just like all knowledge in the entire world is formed. If your friend claims he has a Ferrari then you are unlikely to believe him unless you see some sort of evidence, such as a photograph, or seeing the car in person - or if you already know that he is rich then this would also be some sort of evidence that could lend credibility to the notion that he might have a Ferrari.

Evidence is how humans form true beliefs, and rightly so. It is the only way to form true beliefs. If you think this is incorrect then please do try and prove me wrong, though. With your God shit, of course.

I wasn't the one who started the argument in this thread mate.

>seething christcuck keeps coming up with ad hominem because he doesn't have an argument
Pottery.

>n-n-no u!
Great argument Patrick, very original.

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