/nfl/ general

KEK Almost forgot about that for a second

>first team in history to win superbowl after missing playoffs
woah

>the Bears are missing the playoffs
not this again, you didn't learn from last year?

>OAK: Richie Incognito hit with two-game suspension
Really? ALREADY?

>getting bounced in the wildcard means they'll be back in the playoffs
second season fan?

Third.

Imagine being a Rams “fan”.

>That’s how many points your team scored in the last superbowl they’ll play in
we finna make it right back this year and win it simp and we're winning it in 2022 when la is hosting. stay mad at the rams.

Attached: chad-mcvay.jpg (1400x1400, 142K)

NFL HEAD COACHES NAMED SEAN MCSOMETHING POWER RANKINGS:

1. Sean McDermott
2. Sean McVay

imagine thinking that Gruden isn't a bottom 5 HC
he was a terrible announcer and worse coach, only won an owl with an inherited team against one of the worst teams to ever make it

Rams starting 0-3 and fighting for their lives to make a WC the rest of the way

>Stay mad at a team that lost Superbowls to the same QB in two separate decades
>They put up a total of 20 points in the 2 Superbowls

>rams tank 2019
>draft qb in 2020, sits a season while bortles starts, trade goff off for a third
>draft game changing defender in 2021, lose heartbreaking divisional round
>win SB in 2022
calling it now

Vikings desu

>only won an owl with an inherited team
Literal Fake News. Say what you will about Gruden but he was the sole reason the Bucs were worth a shit ever. This whole Dungy made that team meme is cringe, Dungy was brainlet who coasted off a HOF QB and held the Bucs offensively. The minute Gruden took over the Bucs their offense started clicking and the productivity skyrocketed.

Not with your shit quarterback

>27 Days till Blake Bortles wins preseason MVP

Attached: CHAD-BORTLES.jpg (1200x800, 92K)

What team has the best chance at 0-16?

Oakland knew he was going to be hit with a suspension before they signed him

the reality is somewhere in the middle
gruden sparked the offense after dungy squandered the team, but it was a defense first team by far. once the defense fell apart, so did the team

Dolphins

Funny way to say Nanners

Brett Colemann confirmed elite 4th quarter qb

Not gonna lie, I think the nfl is gonna accidentally the owl

Well you know what, I just disagree with everything you said

Who can stop us?

Attached: 1532803648348.webm (1280x720, 2.06M)

*blocks your path*
*exposes your coach and QB*
*breaks you mentally*

Attached: 0EEAC354-93FE-4FD0-8CA2-DB86B56EAB4A.jpg (731x731, 145K)

Brady didn't do any of that. He was struggling to score and looked old.

kollman said all the holes he tried to dig them out of were self inflicted
sounds like a stafford/carr tier QB with a cam newton play style
what a stud they found

>he thinks my rams are losing to scam newton, noddle arm brees, and gayker gayfield
big yikes

Attached: 1473307653202.png (443x452, 377K)

yeah i know I just didn’t have any pics of Belichick and couldn’t be fucked to get one
should’ve used this in hindsight

Attached: F1CE2827-9261-4028-A307-B25267A978BC.jpg (1200x675, 186K)

Bengals

That's good enough to win a super bowl with a stacked roster

Bengals will peform better than the Browns this year, DESU.

Green Bay finna boutta win the owl this year

the only guy out of that list who has a playoff win is newton, and he couldnt win it against a bad manning with a better offense and defense
so, doubt it

not this year, seems like a shaky division round exit year
next year all cylinders are hot and they get the first seed

The best player on your team anymore is Joe Mixon

...why and how?

>He thinks they're "his" rams
Ultra Omega Yiiiiiikes

Green Bay finna boutta be completely fucking broke in two years.

theyre sitting on fat stacks since they don't pay dividends, and revenue has been increasing every year since favre, while expenses will go down this year
nice try

keep that gay-ass finna bouta shit to the cowfags

Cardinals

*wins the AFC South and takes a big steaming dump on the dilapidated favelas of Pooston, Nashit and Fagsonville in your path*

Attached: A1CFC825-8CC9-48B8-BC79-CBCC685B18A7.jpg (1920x1080, 188K)

SOON

Attached: rockethand.jpg (1920x1080, 215K)

Teams like the Titans, Bengals, and Vikings should tank for Trevor Lawrence when he becomes draft eligible, its the only way they become more than mediocre to good.

*saves football in your path*

Attached: gettyimages-1065208794.jpg (400x225, 18K)

............no

>Luck re-injures his back Week 10 against Jacksonville and the Colts completely disappear into "whogivesafuck" tier for the foreseeable future.

Reminder that 19-0 is not a prediction, it is a fact.

Attached: C17912F5-D2CF-4BFB-AA16-5414948E28F9.jpg (902x1285, 212K)

*throws 3 picks in the season finale in your path*
wow he really is the next favre

the Dallas Cowboys

Are you retarded? They didn't even play 16 game regular seasons back then

>13 lbs of muscle

Arguably the most bullshit piece of sporting news this year desu.

*goes 19-0 in your path*

Attached: 2020champs.jpg (1920x1080, 601K)

t. SEETHING Toxins fan

@94249964
undefeated is the keyword

Why is the offseason so fucking boring bros? September can't come soon enough

Attached: 1560553273601.png (513x496, 532K)

>implying The Big-Brained Brisket wouldn’t lead us to the promised land Nick Foles-style

Attached: AB023C56-47A2-470E-A9A1-814707168473.jpg (640x456, 43K)

Not this year.

>yfw Vikings win the North and NFC but choke as usual

He went to a funeral home to behead his father’s corpse and then threatened to shoot up the place when they didn’t let him.

>Viqueers getting BTFO in the Super Bowl vs the Pats would be kino

All 3 Rams fans in LA will be so happy.

Browns

>win the NFC
Kirk Cousins will never win a playoff game.

Lamar Jackson sounds like a BBC Pidgin article whenever he speaks.

Attached: 6EBF0AC7-DCE4-4DFA-8B9C-4AA68C607D80.png (937x528, 602K)

They’ll just sell more “shares”

I'm finna put $20 on Cousins to win MVP

can't go 19-0 when you start 0-3

Can't wait for my teams' season to be done mid October so I can look forward to the draft.

Thank you for the free money, valued customer!

baste

>wanting the pats to win
kill yourself

the aints will headhunt the fuck out of your team week 2, can't go 19-0 with half your starters ded

+8000 cousins gonna make me rich

Vikings starting 5-3, finishing 8-8 while the Packers and Bears make the playoffs ahead of them

if the Viking go 13-3 Cousins will the the MVP feel free to cap this

people actually think geriatric balding brees with his noddle arm is beating my rams? holy yikes. the aints finna go back to their aaron brooks days and suck ass for years to come.

So...how far does someone need to go in displaying their CTE borne mental illness before the NFL actually takes steps to prevent a murder suicide?

Attached: RIWow.png (897x446, 61K)

waste of space to cap it, Vikings ceiling is 9 wins

based

yes but not because the saints are great, but rather because the Rasm will regress hard

Only crybaby zoomers want the patriots to lose.

Signature————————
“KING PATROT” MATT
SEMPER FI, OOH RAH! VIETNAM COMBAT VET 1965-1970 (don’t ask for my unit number, it’s disrespectful.)
PROUD 2001 GRAND CHEROKEE OWNER
WOULD HAVE ANOTHER IF NOT FOR THE OL BALL N CHAIN
#%^*Proud Atheist that doesn’t need the crutch of religion. If you’re an atheist and proud, copy and paste this into your signature.*^%#
Click the link for free money! youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
[spoiler]TROLLED YOU WOOT WOOT[/spoiler]
Happy Kirby!

this is true

In order to get to the super bowl you have to be consistent. I guess the Bears could get lucky by having him string some good games together in the playoffs. If they don't get home field advantage I don't see them doing it.

>In order to get to the super bowl you have to be consistent
Not really. Joe flacco and Eli Manning for the bulk of their careers were wildly inconsistent but got hit at the right time.

Signature————————
“KING PATROT” MATT
SEMPER FI, OOH RAH! VIETNAM COMBAT VET 1965-1970 (don’t ask for my unit number, it’s disrespectful.)
PROUD 2001 GRAND CHEROKEE OWNER
WOULD HAVE ANOTHER IF NOT FOR THE OL BALL N CHAIN
#%^*Proud Atheist that doesn’t need the crutch of religion. If you’re an atheist and proud, copy and paste this into your signature.*^%#
Click the link for free money! youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
[spoiler]TROLLED YOU WOOT WOOT[/spoiler]
Happy Kirby!

>not taking your dads head when he dies

Maybe Richie is the sane one.

Bears are making the playoffs. Packers aren't. Not this year. There's too many teams primed to win a wild card over them and they're going to have recalibrating growing pains.

Pats
Bills
Jets
Phins

Steelers
Browns (wc)
Bengals
Ravens

Texans
Colts (wc)
Jags
Titans

Chefs
Chargers
Raiders
Broncos

~~~~~~~~~

Eagles
Redskins
Cowboys
Giants

Bears
Packers (wc)
Vikings
Lions

Panthers
Saints
Falcons
Buccs

Seahawks
Rams (wc)
Niners
Cards

I don't think that's CTE bro I think Incognegro is just crazy.

I don’t know, I think the only NFC teams in contention for the playoffs are the Rams, Saints, Falcons, Panthers, Bears, Packers, Eagles, and Cowboys. So the Packers aren’t guaranteed a spot but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think they beat out the cowboys and whichever NFCS team finishes third.

Signature————————
“KING PATROT” MATT
SEMPER FI, OOH RAH! VIETNAM COMBAT VET 1965-1970 (don’t ask for my unit number, it’s disrespectful.)
PROUD 2001 GRAND CHEROKEE OWNER
WOULD HAVE ANOTHER IF NOT FOR THE OL BALL N CHAIN
#%^*Proud Atheist that doesn’t need the crutch of religion. If you’re an atheist and proud, copy and paste this into your signature.*^%#
Click the link for free money! youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
[spoiler]TROLLED YOU WOOT WOOT[/spoiler]
Happy Kirby!

>Only crybaby zoomers want the patriots to lose

Attached: 1551565551278.jpg (600x549, 79K)

Toxins aren't even getting the wild card retard

>all these retards thinking the toxins will win the AFC South when they got worse and every other team in the division got better
They’re going 5-11 and finishing last.

Switch Jets and Bills.

AFC South is completely wrong, and that division isn't getting a wild card. Have you even looked at their schedules? They'll be lucky if two teams in the division break .500. All of them are facing playoff level teams all year, and on the road to boot.

Redskins are not finishing above the Cowboys. Eagles and Cowboys will be fighting to win the division. My bet is on the Cowboys. I don't get why this board consistently underestimates them so much .Dak is nothing special but he's surrounded by talent on both offense and defense.

Packers are not getting a wild card spot over the Cowboys/Eagles/Saints/Rams. It's just very unlikely.

NFC South looks correct.

Seahawks are not winning the division over the Rams.

I think it's more accurate to say that only crybaby boomers that worship cuck teams that lose all the time hate the Patriots. Old Gay is a prime example.

Non-retarded (or at least less retarded, I am falling for the Browns meme after all) version:

Pats (1)
Jets
Bills
Dolphins

Steelers (3)
Browns (5)
Ravens
Bengals

Colts (4)
Jaguars
Titans
Texans

Chiefs (2)
Chargers (6)
Raiders
Broncos

Eagles (1)
Cowboys (6)
Redskins
Giants

Bears (2)
Packers
Vikings
Lions

Falcons (4)
Panthers (5)
Saints
Bucs

Rams (2)
49ers
Seahawks
Cardinals

>nfcn is guaranteed a playoff spot after humiliating playoff defeat
god this meme gets old

I think you are underestimating how shit Mcarthy was with the offense. Any offensive coach is a upgrade over him and with rodgers we are dangerous. Offense can only be a upgrade this year, literally can't be any worse then it was the last couple years.

I don't think he was so terrible that replacing him with a first year head coach is going to make the Packers jump up by 4 wins from last year, no.

I'm gonna be so happy when the Browns get destroyed by the Tits week 1. Gayfield and his uppity niggas need to be put in their place.

Not destroyed, but I have the Titans winning that game 24-20. I actually think the Browns are going to start 0-3 next year and will finish 8-8 or 9-7.

r u fucking dumb? bears jumped 9 wins with fucking trubisky
not to mention how many playoff teams they tied in the 4th quarter on the road. half those games at home, with marginal improvement, and theyre a 9 win team
get out of here casual

cant remember a team that could have so many ways to completely collapse as the bears. itd be a miracle to dodge them all

Football!!!
Touchdowns!!!
Pound the rock!!!
Big hits!!!!
Interception!!!!!
Toss the pigskin!!!!
Cheerleaders!!!!
Ice Cold Beer!!!!!
I'm ready for some football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>r u fucking dumb? bears jumped 9 wins with fucking trubisky
No. You are. That's not why they got better. Trubisky is indeed terrible. The Bears aren't good because of Trubisky, they're good in spite of him.

>not to mention how many playoff teams they tied in the 4th quarter on the road. half those games at home, with marginal improvement, and theyre a 9 win team
You can make those kind of gay excuses with any shitty team you fucking retard. A loss is a loss.

>get out of here casual
Tell that to yourself.

modern football is about fantasy, analytics, and vodka
get with the times

None of those guys had a roster like the bears

I would unironically rather have Dak than TruBUTTsky. Nigga aint even better than Jay Cutler.

the man was born with CTE...what future did he have besides meaningless bench time in the nfl

I'm finna put my finna put in a finna put. Finna put, dawg?

>receivers healthy
>running game refurbished
>roquan smith entering second year
>trubisky entering second year of nagys system
>team is dripping with confidence from going worst to first and has playoff experience
Just to name a few

This post is finna be finna pilled and finna based.

literally what are you on about?
>You can make those kind of gay excuses with any shitty team you fucking retard. A loss is a loss.
oh please, another upset dogmatic retard. You think the dolphins tied 4 different playoff teams in the 4th quarter on the road? You think the falcons did? can't comprehend different teams have different injuries? different schedules? that theres a difference in getting blown out and losing a bunch of close games? even a marginal upgrade can change the outcome of a few games, like new offense and 4 new starters?
cope all day

I thought it was about accepting the crushing reality of being controlled by mass hypnosis for weeks at a time, which is why nobody who your team is you're going to watch the Super Bowl at the end of the year because the entire build up of this hypnosis show is penis fart midget nazi from outer space are surf champions and the mustard is really in effect if you follow your heart.

panthers abosultely did, and cam was a way better QB that year than trubisky

youtu.be/g-d9SGrAdLg
You're exaggerating honey

Too bad he’s on the bad team now...he could have stayed with the GOAT... and learn’d, but no...selfish. Shameful...wasted career...a dumb CREAZIONIST (my port man too of creationist and Zionist...pretty clever huh ^.^) like him belongs on trash teams...not MY PATRIOTS...

Signature————————
“KING PATROT” MATT
SEMPER FI, OOH RAH! VIETNAM COMBAT VET 1965-1970 (don’t ask for my unit number, it’s disrespectful.)
PROUD 2001 GRAND CHEROKEE OWNER
WOULD HAVE ANOTHER IF NOT FOR THE OL BALL N CHAIN
#%^*Proud Atheist that doesn’t need the crutch of religion. If you’re an atheist and proud, copy and paste this into your signature.*^%#
Click the link for free money! youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
[spoiler]TROLLED YOU WOOT WOOT[/spoiler]
Happy Kirby!

Cardinals

Attached: 1548662923340.gif (480x480, 1.91M)

>I would unironically rather have Dak than TruBUTTsky. Nigga aint even better than Jay Cutler.
Grossman was better than all of them.

It fucking sucks doesn't it friend?

Attached: 1491611576856.png (633x758, 335K)

Did he died?

Since 2012, Hawks have had to deal with a 12-4 Niners (went to Super Bowl/NFC Championship), 13-3 Cards (went to NFC Championship), and a 13-3 Rams team (went to Super Bowl)

In that same time, there have been zero great AFCE teams other than lol the pats. Why the fuck is that?

only to then get the Brady seed

Your team wins the Owl this year
or
You have sex, once, with a very attractive girl

What do you pick?????

absolutely based

He said 0-16 not 16-0

>Patriots
The girl..

>1st place schedule not bottom of barrel piss easy
>less likely to be a top 3 healthiest team again
>teams have an offseason to prepare for nagy's scheme and tendencies
>teams find ways to exploit trubiskys tendency to blow spaghetti all over when nagy can't scheme wide open his first two reads
>teams replicate the numerous performances last year where trubisky sucked against good defenses
>secondary takes step back after two new DBs arent as good and/or havent adapted (callahan and amos were top 10 at nickel and safety by pff grades)
>defense in total takes step back when guy calling plays hasnt had a good defense in years can't replicate the job of the guy who spent years hand crafting the defense, getting to understand key players, and calling top units
>secondary doesnt hold up as well when agressive blitzing doesnt actually help when veteran QBs have years of experience knowing how to exploit lack of defenders in the backfield and blowing up mismatches in man coverage or chunking yards in zone (hint, teams have been aggressively blitzing since the 00s, everybody copied dom capers then rex ryan. fangio called up fewer blitzes on purpose)
>overconfident team underperforms by underestimating opponents and neglect certain training/practices for other objectives
>overconfident team loses underdog status and becomes demoralized after a few losses
>cant find kicker leading to demoralized team when they lose a few close games to missed kicks, general scoring production drops
>defense loses faith in trubisky or le blitz man after a poor showing or two
obviously this won't all happen, but any of these alone could completely derail a playoff push. A few of them in conjunction and its back to the dumpster, just look at jacksonville

I believe in the jets going to the playoffs this year!

Attached: B7581736-9BD1-449D-ADB8-C9863304AB33.jpg (724x1024, 634K)

youve got a case for him being better than cutler, but I see nothing that puts him above dak

>pack vs pats rematch
itll never ever happen, its a cursed game
see 2004, 2007, 2010, 2011, 2014, 2016

no...if you watch the gif closely you see Allah step in and save him

Allah is merciful, and granted that man a merciful death

>Madlad Richie still has an NFL career
Clearly we're in the best timeline bros

Attached: 1384413793590.png (476x2084, 75K)

I'm actually mad this matchup hasn't happened since Brady. And every single time it's because of fucking spaghetti.

would be fucking kino
could easily see how either of the teams could win in either year
could see the pats winning 2004, 2007, 2016, but 2011 and 2014 packers would have probably pulled the W
2010 would have been a tossup

Imagine scoring three (3) points in the Super Bowl

>tfw first preseason games just around the corner

Attached: 9679633F-D198-4964-A56C-30BA749C12FB.png (500x709, 193K)

>You think the dolphins tied 4 different playoff teams in the 4th quarter on the road? You think the falcons did?
Oh gee, if you single out two teams that didn't, it will make it seem more impressive. Except plenty of fucking teams went into the 4th quarter tying playoff teams. The fucking Dolphins, Titans, Lions, Steelers, and Jaguars all beat the eventual Super Bowl winner. Who gives a flying fuck? Nobody gives a shit about these "almost" stats except losers and cucks. In other words, you. Green Bay fans especially love this "almost" and "doesn't count" bullshit. The Packers would just never lose if their rabid fans' excuses counted for fucking anything, but they don't.

>can't comprehend different teams have different injuries? different schedules? that theres a difference in getting blown out and losing a bunch of close games? even a marginal upgrade can change the outcome of a few games, like new offense and 4 new starters?
You're the one that can't comprehend this you fucking idiot. The Packers are not the only team that made upgrades. EVERY FUCKING TEAM IN THE LEAGUE TRIED TO MAKE UPGRADES THIS YEAR. That's what EVERY team does EVERY year. And EVERY stupid fuck fan will argue their team got way better this year. Just like you.

The idea that the Packers are guaranteed to do better this year is fucking stupid. It's based on nothing but hope. The Packers came off a 6-9-1 season, and the "improvements" they made involved purging a long time stable head coach. History tells us that is not a recipe for an excellent season the following year, especially when the guy they're bringing on has never been a head coach.

"almost" beating a playoff team on the road counts for exactly fucking nothing. The Vikings "almost" beat the Patriots in Foxborough. They were tied with 15:36 remaining, right until the end of the 3rd quarter. Wowowow. They even kept the game to 1 touchdown with the Rams, and nearly beat the Bears at home! Vikings will be AMAZING in 2019!

>You think the dolphins tied 4 different playoff teams in the 4th quarter on the road? You think the falcons did?
The Giants beat the Texans on the road, the Bears at home, and kept the game extremely close against the Cowboys at home and on the road, lost to the Colts by 1 point, lost to the Eagles by a longshot field goal.

Of course, they ended up 5-11, just like the shitty Packers ended up 6-9-1. Losing a bunch of close games to playoff teams is a much more common occurrence than I think you realize. Hell, a lot of crappy teams can even claim to have beaten playoff teams or super bowl teams. The Packers are actually especially shitty because they only beat one playoff team: the Bears. At home. The Giants did better than them in that regard.

Hell, another random example: the Titans beat 4 playoff teams in the regular season, and even beat the eventual Super Bowl winner in the Patriots. Yet I don't think a single, rational, intelligent person would ever argue that this means the Titans are on the verge of improving by 4 wins this coming year because they made some roster upgrades.

they unironically could go 0-3 lmao

a lot of teams have really tough opening schedules. one way or another we're gonna see some goofy standings after the first 3-5 games.

This Bears roster is better than the Panthers during their Owl run

I'm gonna save this so that when the bears win and the narrative about them changes here I can boast about myself

Literally all of these can be spun for to be positive btw

Elite 4th quarter play

Yeah I cant believe Rodgers spaghetti'd all three of those turnovers he got in a championship game in 2014. Obviously they should've got him 5 picks, Rodgers never has any help

Daks 4th quarter stats are bretty gud

Based and processpilled

>drafting a qb is a simple and failproof endevor

Reminder the AAF was a sham league and its folding was an orchestrated play meant to scare Vince McMahon into pulling the plug on the XFL

>>drafting a qb is a simple and failproof endevor
Colts did it twice in a row

With the first overall pick 15 years apart

Then Dak is pretty good

>the 49ers and Robbie Gould reached agreement on a 2-year, $10.5 million fully-guaranteed deal that, including an option clause, can turn into a 4-year, $19M deal that includes $15M gtd
Is it really that hard to find a kicker?

But Jake Utler is better than Dak....

Yes.

Attached: screen-shot-2019-01-06-at-9.35.19-pm.png (708x504, 327K)

That ball was blocked. The Bears had the worst kicker in the league and even he was about to hit a clutch game winner.

And how has the search gone since then?

Attached: Screen Shot 2019-07-15 at 11.26.52 AM.png (1030x456, 96K)

Attached: Screen Shot 2019-07-15 at 11.27.34 AM.png (662x1466, 198K)

just gotta find someone as good as parkey

berds

Attached: 350016F3-4773-4BE5-A7A5-1B8F704F0C8D.png (662x820, 817K)

>Houston tagged Clowney as a linebacker instead of as a defensive end, even though last year he played 729 snaps at DE and just 33 at LB, according to ESPN. Because the tag is tied to positional salaries around the league, Houston will pay Clowney over a million dollars less than if they had tagged him as a DE.
Fuck the NFL. How do they get away with this shit?

Attached: c7bb3da0-a293-11e9-b77c-f44ccdfbd145.jpg (2324x1735, 571K)

Cardinals, Kyler "a 5'6" Lameme" Murray and Kliff "losing record with Mahomes in college" Shitsbury will never have an NFL job agin after December
t. Berds fan

Could the Browns make the playoffs?

The cowboys are going to go directly to the shitter if/when they let Zeke walk.

Attached: D_hR3k6X4AEN_FX.jpg (600x463, 37K)

aw'right lads, which NFL team should a British fag support?

I think it's NFL law that you brits have to support the Jags.

I'm sorry it has to be this way.

Attached: 9k=.jpg (220x208, 8K)

Unless Kellen Moore turns toe offense into an aggressive downfield passing one, that teams ceiling is capped

He couldn't let the government secrets fall into the hands of terrorists.

nice list of teams that didnt face 4/5 playoff teams on the road. no, not all schedules are equal. Yeah most teams beat a playoff team, especially at home, because every division has a playoff team. Astute analysis.
also, no, not every team makes the same improvements in an offseason. How many teams signed 4 starters and drafted 2 first rounders? "hur dur well they ALL improve" fucking please
great fucking theory except several teams make multiple game improvements in a consecutive season every damn season. Its not some unicorn event, nor is it completely random. More often than not its the teams that added talent in the offseason, got luckier with injuries, and got into an easier schedule. Surprise, some teams are better or worse than their record indicates. You need to read between the lines to make any kind of accurate season predictions
The titans could easily make a 2 game improvement. The packers were only 2.5 wins away from being 9-7, and the .5 was the worst penalty call of the season.
Again, How did the bears improve by 9 wins with a rookie HC? How is it impossible that a packers team that has plenty talented players and a HOF QB can't put themselves in the playoff hunt? They cant win 3 more games than last year? I know youre insecure and desperate for them to suck, but you have to bring better fuel than pretending every team has the same schedule and makes the same improvements, and thus all the reason teams actually do improve between seasons doesn't count and it must be completely random or something

Bills

left the field with the lead every time, all you can ask from a QB

>andrew, "ow my shoulder," luck.
>failproof.

New England Patriots :)

britbongs de facto team is the jaguars if they have no connections to any other team.

>can't win with Dak and Zeke, can't win without them
>haven't been successful or relevant in over 20 years, won't be again until JJ dies (at the age of 187)
Bleak

Sacksonville Faguars

So excited to see the mid-level nerds from my two favorite college teams fight for and hopefully earn roster spots. Especially excited to see ol' Clayton Thorson try to truck a box safety like the big beautiful moron he is.

Speculation

Garbage time is always impressive when you're pushing back on a deficit.

One as good as Gould? Yeah

It's been a tough 20 years of fanship I'll tell ya hwhat

Jaguars. Ignore the guys trying to give you shit about it as well, Jags are actually low-key scary good when everything is working properly.

Wrong religion.
Vishnu or some shit.

Doesnt he have like 8 4th quarter comebacks and 14 game winning drives in 3 years? That's pretty solid

If the jaguars move to London, how will the NFL divisions change? They can’t stay in the AFC South but every other division already has established rivalries that would torn apart by realignment

Attached: Zoomer Eating Tide Pods.gif (652x562, 626K)

Brady left with the lead in 2007

He'll challenge this and win.

Compare the positions satan

There won't be a UK expansion. It's been teased for years, but it's just not going to happen...way too much change to how the season/divisions work, not including the laundry list of other hurdles it would require.

They'll stay. This is the same league that put Atlanta and Carolina in the NFC West before realignment.

It didn't work out for Jimmy Graham

>NFL
>ever having a team on a different continent
Pick one. There's no way to make the logistics make sense. They'll continue to play a couple games per season across the Atlantic, and at most start a satellite "minor league" in Europe (but not before they expand in Canada and Mexico).

>Greatest show on turf
>muh goff
>muh young HC
>getting BTFO by a 41 year old QB
lamo

>Not recognizing the NFL is basically the WWE with more of a sport structure.

M-MCVEY! HELP ME!

he didn't take snaps at DE though. he lined up as the edge rushing LB in a 3-4.

Elliot holding out. Nice.

>docking a guy over a million in pay because he picked his hand up off the ground before the snap
Maybe they can argue it, but either way it's petty as shit and openly disingenuous.

Zeke going to the Seahawks confirmed

All right, Jags it is. Thanks fellas.

...interesting take. Any reason he would?

Also the security guard he assaulted just filed a criminal complaint against him lol

Didn't he lead a go-ahead drive in the fourth quarter, going 4-4 for around 70 yards?

how will they even pay dak and zeke 50 millions total

ok? I dont think he choked, just didnt have his best game

indescribably based post

>Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who last year was one of seven players to get a Madden-high 99, has fallen all the way to 90.

>Still the No. 1 quarterback in the opinion of Chris Simms, Rodgers lands at No. 7 in the assessment of the folks at EA, behind Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes (97), Patriots quarterback Tom Brady (96), Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers (94), Saints quarterback Drew Brees (92), Colts quarterback Andrew Luck (92), and Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson (91).

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO

>yfw da bears win da superb owl

Attached: bear0041.jpg (280x175, 52K)

>FA: Ex-Titan Albert Haynesworth in kidney failure

Attached: 1561515118971.png (257x250, 127K)

>cuckboys have to pay Dak, Zeke, Cooper, Jaylon Smith, etc.
>already overpaid for DeMarcus Lawrence
>and none of them are willing to take a pay cut
They're fucked lel

>Patriots quarterback Tom Brady (96)
>Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers (94)
>Colts quarterback Andrew Luck (92)
lol what a meme

That is pretty ridiculous

i don’t really think americans would dominate football if they cared about it. but you’d absolutely dominate rugby. whitebois would get btfo hard.

That's a pretty reasonable take

my reasoning is footballers aren’t really the biggest strongest guys. they tend to be average because it requires such a high level of skill before anything else. america would be competitive and good if they cared but would not dominate.

but if an NFL team did some endurance training and practiced rugby for a few years they’d probably beat any team on the planet because sheer physicality plays such a role.

I agree, Brady should be at least 105

The US is already one of the top teams in 7s rugby, the rugby code currently played at the Olympics. Their team is two former D2 football players/track athletes and a bunch of experienced rugby players who pass to the former footballers and watch the fireworks. That's maybe a bit reductive but the US would absolutely field an internationally competitive rugby 15s team if they were well-funded and organized enough to do it. They're actually not exactly horrible right now, just clearly not competitive with the 9 or so sides in the sport's upper echelon.

Fags suck and are forced on you poor guys. Pick the Rams a superior non-flyover team, makes sense if you're a Arsenal fan too.

They play in London this year too, against the Bungles. So you'll be able to watch one of their games at a resonable hour.

for me, its knowing that the rams are frauds and we have a burrs jets superbowl

Attached: Boomer N.tropy.png (1148x996, 394K)

these

Maybe a couple years ago. Last season he was 11 in AY/A, 8th in ANY/A, 12th in rating, and 9th in >qbr. There literally isn't any stat he's better than top 7 (total passing yards).

nah bro, pick the Raiders they're moving to London after all

Attached: 1361500278070.png (431x336, 266K)

I put $2000 on the jets winning the AFCE. You faggots forget that Gronk retiring is going to have the same impact as if Brady retired and gronk stayed. Gonna be laughing when the gaytriots go 7-9 like the bitches they are.
Learn sports.

Attached: 0F08885A-205E-43ED-AB17-C773D03E033E.jpg (640x478, 46K)

those ones stood out to me too
madden is such a crapshoot

They wont expand to Canada, there are laws in place to prevent it, if the nfl expands into canada the CFL would die

well hey there Old Gay. that VPN helping you get around those filters again?

based serB giving my jets a chance

Attached: Bocchi_Jets.png (565x830, 461K)

thats a big list of players who shouldnt be top market but wont accept less than top market
how did this happen to the cowgoys?

or the Rams go on to have a 4-12 season and you look like a fucking retard. so its whatever.

>implying it'll be the Jets and not the Bills

Imagine having jj watt and aaron donald as props

>mahomes that high after a rookie year

he is going to sophmore slump hard.

Attached: D_h20HDUwAEKXW1.jpg (680x381, 30K)

He is already a sophomore

Last year was his sophomore year. This will be his 3rd season in the league.

Clint Boling and Derrick Morgan call it quits today

>Bengals rookie OT out for the season
>Their guard that had 32 starts the past two seasons retires

Attached: Retirements.png (225x811, 29K)

Haha is overrated t.bh

>Arod is a HoF QB
Under what criteria besides he can chuck it downfield?

>Rivers over Brees

How did this guy turn into such an arrogant fuck? I was told that he was a team player. How does he think he's worth 33-plus million and what it would do to the rest of the team? Does he have no appreciation for all the extra marketing opportunities he gets simply by being the Cowboys QB? Is it an inferiority complex towards Carson Wentz that he simply HAS to get more money?

Attached: Dak-Prescott-viewed-as-an-_undervalued_-player-1024x574.jpg (1024x574, 148K)

He places that high with a crippled Gronk, drugged out Josh Gordon, an Edelman missing 4 games, and Chris Hogan? Impressive.

He's low-IQ. He literally thinks they can pay him, Zeke, Amari, Jaylon, and DeMarcus top at their position, and still have a competitive team. That it will just work out magically.

Attached: room-temp-IQ.webm (1280x720, 2.67M)

He’s been getting paid 6 figures most of his career, you’d want money too

It's amazing how close they were to cutting him and Garret and somehow just getting Amari Cooper is supposed to have fixed everything.

Why isn't 25 million enough? Again, most great former Cowboys make money their whole lives for no reason other than being great Cowboys.

ha

based

Cheese cunts

>Mack rated 98 with raiders
>suddenly 99 with burrs

>Antonio rated 99 with Steelers
>suddenly 98 with Raiders
EA >ratings >gururs are bitch ass haters

How do you forget about Sean Payton?

Dak isn’t getting 30 million, not unless the Rams trade for Zeke. Expect 22.5 at most

>Janikowski and Lechler
right in the feels

>le unsportsmanlike conduct on the new orleans bench man

seething

Attached: dw4.jpg (400x400, 28K)

He would never fucking sign that

He will because he needs to prove to himself he's better than Wentz. He won't get less than 33

its the yogurt. yogurt makes ordinary people pretentious and faggy.

>“For somebody to say you can only take so much because of the salary cap or you can only do this or that, I don’t know how fair that is to say,” Prescott said.
>“It’s important for all these guys to get every bit of their worth. I want to see Zeke the highest paid. I want to see Amari the highest paid. I want to see myself up there. And I don’t think any of that is too far-fetched.
OH Nonono

>instagram.com/p/Bz6WtPJBj8r/
>soon

Attached: Screen Shot 2019-07-15 at 4.49.39 PM.png (1528x1002, 1.32M)

Top 5 Highest Overall Rated Teams in Madden 20: 1) Eagles: 89 OVR 2) Cowboys: 88 OVR 3) Saints: 87 OVR 4) Patriots: 87 OVR 5) Packers: 87 OVR
bears chargers chiefs on suicide watch

>cowboys offense without zeke

Attached: 1562877020425.png (247x242, 89K)

>Pats are underdogs AGAIN
Oh nononono

>1) Eagles: 89
And that's with them underrating Wentz

>Best team in the AFC

>Cowboys: 88
lel what a joke

Panthers will embarrass Rams

Fuck madden.

Attached: 1356299686296.jpg (620x389, 28K)

Is this /ouryear/, NFC bros?

What are my raiders ratings at my dubs-getting user?

Seriously, how do they convince people year after year that they’re the underdogs when they’re always literally the favorites to win the Super Bowl?

I just want the Packers to not suck...

Mex Kellerman and Rob Parker still make fools out of themselves on tv everyday

>4th best rated team within 2 points of #1 and tied with #3
>underdogs
New Englanders and their victim complexes, good grief

>Dak
>33 million
I don't think Cowboys are that stupid. 30 is already pushing it. Somewhere around 27 million should be the ceiling.

Why have loyalty to a team when they can cut you or trade you? It’s all business

NFL is plastic, but that doesn’t mean it’s bad

But it's his own long term earning potential he's hurting when he's setting himself up to be exposed as a Zeke and Amaribabby.

I guarantee you that he'll insist to be paid more than Wentz who got 32

>be a new NFL team in a city that didn’t want you
>be total ass for most of your history
>one year your division is shit and you rape your way to the playoffs
>in the playoffs you dominate one game but barely win the other in overtime
>get to the Super Bowl
>get fucking embarrassed
>score three (3) fucking points and lose
>next season go undefeated and win the Super Bowl
Pic unrelated i’m talking about the 1971 Miami Dolphins

Attached: 04F5BE66-715A-4CA3-B229-14EB9D2BE1C9.jpg (900x900, 63K)

They’d have to give them 4 teams total so they can spend the first or second half of the season in the UK. And they migrate over to America to finish out the season.

Just not practical flying across the Atlantic every week.

if i want my son to play secondary in the NFL should I name him kenjardrick?

Ramsfags on suicide watch after they start 1-4

cool story, i can google history too!

...

Here, let's look at how each team did w/l vs the playoff teams(Patriots, Chiefs, Texans, Ravens, Chargers, Colts, Saints, Rams, Bears, Cowboys, Seahawks, Eagles).

Just as a stat ahead of time, the average number of road games an NFL team plays against teams that make the playoffs is exactly 3. The Packers played 1 more road game against playoff teams than average. So did ELEVEN other NFL teams. The Packers vs playoff teams have the 8th best winning percentage in 2018 of those teams that have played 4 road games. So 8th/11. Here, I'll even provide both tables in my next reply so you can look at it however you want. Because the simple truth is the Packers were not uniquely screwed in their 2018 schedule. They faced slightly more adversity than average as far as road games vs playoff teams, and fared worse overall against playoff teams in general than the likes of the Bengals, Titans, Jaguars, and Giants. There are like 10 other teams that had to face more playoff teams/same number of road games. And yet they similarly finished with 6-10 esque records. The Packers in 2018 were no different than the Dolphins, Jaguars, Giants, and so on and so forth. Just a bad team.

In other words, your citing of this point is irrelevant and indicates precisely nothing.

midget football?

We can only hope

>itt Rams and Green gay fans seething

WIN % VS PLAYOFF TEAMS REGULAR SEASON(TIEBREAKER BY # OF ROAD GAMES)

Team(Record)[Road Games]: Results

#1: PATRIOTS(4-0)[1]
#2: SAINTS(3-1)[2]
#3: PANTHERS(4-2)[2]
#4: BEARS(2-1)[0]
#5: RAMS(4-3)[4]
#6: COWBOYS(3-3)[4]
#7: EAGLES(3-3)[3]
#8: TITANS(4-5)[4]
#9: DOLPHINS(2-3)[3]
#9: TEXANS(2-3)[3]
#9: COLTS(2-3)[3]
#9: CHARGERS(2-3)[3]
#13: BENGALS(2-4)[4]
#14: CHIEFS(2-4)[4]
#15: BUCCANEERS(2-4)[3]
#16: STEELERS(2-4)[2]
#17: SEAHAWKS(2-4)[2]
#18: RAVENS(1-2)[2]
#19: JAGUARS(2-6)[4]
#19: GIANTS(2-6)[4]
#21: BRONCOS(2-6)[3]
#22: PACKERS(1-4)[4]
#23: JETS(1-4)[2]
#24: BROWNS(1-5)[3]
#25: LIONS(1-5)[2]
#26: VIKINGS(1-6)[5]
#27: 49ERS(1-6)[4]
#28: REDSKINS(1-6)[3]
#29: FALCONS(0-5)[2]
#30: BILLS(0-7)[4]
#31: CARDINALS(0-7)[4]
#32: RAIDERS(0-8)[3]

SEPARATED BY NUMBER OF ROAD GAMES VS PLAYOFF TEAMS

TEAM(RECORD)[ROAD GAMES]

VIKINGS(1-6)[5]

RAMS(4-3)[4]
COWBOYS(3-3)[4]
TITANS(4-5)[4]
BENGALS(2-4)[4]
CHIEFS(2-4)[4]
JAGUARS(2-6)[4]
GIANTS(2-6)[4]
PACKERS(1-4)[4]
49ERS(1-6)[4]
BILLS(0-7)[4]
CARDINALS(0-7)[4]

EAGLES(3-3)[3]
DOLPHINS(2-3)[3]
TEXANS(2-3)[3]
COLTS(2-3)[3]
CHARGERS(2-3)[3]
BUCCANEERS(2-4)[3]
BRONCOS(2-6)[3]
BROWNS(1-5)[3]
REDSKINS(1-6)[3]
RAIDERS(0-8)[3]

SAINTS(3-1)[2]
PANTHERS(4-2)[2]
STEELERS(2-4)[2]
SEAHAWKS(2-4)[2]
RAVENS(1-2)[2]
JETS(1-4)[2]
LIONS(1-5)[2]
FALCONS(0-5)[2]

PATRIOTS(4-0)[1]

BEARS(2-1)[0]

BASED SMITH

I bet it has to feel nice to finally have your leg free from metal for nearly a year

Attached: Screenshot_20190715-161803.png (720x1280, 95K)

>Yeah most teams beat a playoff team, especially at home, because every division has a playoff team. Astute analysis.

Attached: oh no no no do they really.jpg (324x291, 28K)

His pure smile fills me with joy

Attached: D_iGisyW4AA7g9g.jpg (696x1200, 152K)

Imagine rooting for a team that has ever relocated.

>smeth comes back in the final week to knock out the cowboys from the playoffs

curious about the SOS against playoff teams, because I hardly consider the texans, ravens, eagles last year on par with the chiefs, rams, saints
in fact, I can't even find a retrospective SOS for last year

Imagine rooting for a team that has won 1 or 0 championships

No, Devin Hester's kid, he's going to boss the NFL

Imagine rooting for the Rams.

Imagine rooting for a team that is in a different state or country than you live

>sample size of 3 to 8
itsfuckingnothing.jpg

Imagine rooting for a team just because you were born in that state

Imagine rooting for a team that has a losing record and less than 6 superbowl wins

Imagine rooting for a team that doesn't have Patrick Mahomes as QB

Imagine rooting for a team who didn’t win their first ring until the new millennia

I don't have the actual SOS numbers done, but if you're curious about individual matches, it's:

AFC

PATRIOTS(4-0)[1]: vs Texans(W), vs Colts(W), vs Chiefs(W), @ Bears(W)

DOLPHINS(2-3)[3]: @ Patriots(L), vs Bears(W), @ Texans(L), @ Colts(L), vs Patriots(W)

BILLS(0-7)[4]: @ Ravens(L), vs Chargers(L), @ Texans(L), @ Colts(L), vs Patriots(L), vs Bears(L), @ Patriots(L)

JETS(1-4)[2]: vs Colts(W), @ Bears(L), vs Patriots(L), vs Texans(L), @ Patriots(L)

RAVENS(1-2)[2]: vs Saints(L), @ Chiefs(L), @ Chargers(W)

STEELERS(2-4)[2]: vs Chiefs(L), vs Ravens(L), @ Ravens(W), vs Chargers(L), vs Patriots(W), @ Saints(L)

BROWNS(1-5)[3]: @ Saints(L), vs Ravens(W), vs Chargers(L), vs Chiefs(L), @ Texans(L), @ Ravens(L)

BENGALS(2-4)[4]: @ Colts(W), vs Ravens(W), @ Chiefs(L), vs Saints(L), @ Ravens(L), @ Chargers(L)

TEXANS(2-3)[3]: @ Patriots(L), @ Colts(W), vs Cowboys(W), vs Colts(L), @ Eagles(L)

COLTS(2-3)[3]: @ Eagles(L), vs Texans(L), @ Patriots(L), @ Texans(W), vs Cowboys(W)

TITANS(4-5)[4]: vs Texans(W), vs Eagles(W), vs Ravens(L), @ Chargers(L), @ Cowboys(W), vs Patriots(W), @ Colts(L), @ Texans(L), vs Colts(L)

JAGUARS(2-6)[4]: vs Patriots(W), @ Chiefs(L), @ Cowboys(L), vs Texans(L), vs Eagles(L), @ Colts(L), vs Colts(W), @ Texans(L)

CHIEFS(2=4)[4]: @ Chargers(W), @ Patriots(L), @ Rams(L), vs Ravens(W), vs Chargers(L), @ Seahawks(L)

CHARGERS(2=3)[3]: vs Chiefs(L), @ Rams(L), @ Seahawks(W), @ Chiefs(W), vs Ravens(L)

BRONCOS(2-6)[3]: vs Seahawks(W), @ Ravens(L), vs Chiefs(L), vs Rams(L), @ Chiefs(L), vs Texans(L), @ Chargers(W), vs Chargers(L)

RAIDERS(0-8)[3]: vs Rams(L), @ Chargers(L), vs Seahawks(L), vs Colts(L), vs Chargers(L), @ Ravens(L), vs Chiefs(L), @ Chiefs(L)

NFC

COWBOYS(3-3)[4]: @ Seahawks(L), @ Texans(L), @ Eagles(W), vs Saints(W), vs Eagles(W), @ Colts(L)

EAGLES(3-3)[3]: vs Colts(W), vs Cowboys(L), @ Saints(L), @ Cowboys(L), @ Rams(W), vs Texans(W)

REDSKINS(1-6)[3]: vs Colts(L), @ Saints(L), vs Cowboys(W), vs Texans(L), @ Cowboys(L), @ Eagles(L), vs Eagles(L)

GIANTS(2-6)[4]: @ Cowboys(L), @ Texans(W), vs Saints(L), vs Eagles(L), @ Eagles(L), vs Bears(W), @ Colts(L), vs Cowboys(L)

BEARS(2-1)[0]: vs Seahawks(W), vs Patriots(L), vs Rams(W)

VIKINGS(1-6)[5]: @ Rams(L), @ Eagles(W), vs Saints(L), @ Bears(L), @ Patriots(L), @ Seahawks(L), vs Bears(L)

PACKERS(1-4)[4]: vs Bears(W), @ Rams(L), @ Patriots(L), @ Seahawks(L), @ Bears(L)

LIONS(1-5)[2]: vs Patriots(W), @ Cowboys(L), vs Seahawks(L), @ Bears(L), vs Bears(L), vs Rams(L)

SAINTS(3-1)[2]: @ Ravens(W), vs Rams(W), vs Eagles(W), @ Cowboys(L)

PANTHERS(4-2)[2]: vs Cowboys(W), @ Eagles(W), vs Ravens(W), vs Seahawks(L), vs Saints(L), @ Saints(W)

FALCONS(0-5)[2]: @ Eagles(L), vs Saints(L), vs Cowboys(L), @ Saints(L), vs Ravens(L)

BUCCANEERS(2-4)[3]: @ Saints(W), vs Eagles(W), @ Bears(L), vs Saints(L), @ Ravens(L), @ Cowboys(L)

RAMS(4-3)[4]: vs Chargers(W), @ Seahawks(W), @ Saints(L), vs Seahawks(W), vs Chiefs(W), @ Bears(L), @ Eagles(L)

SEAHAWKS(2-4)[2]: @ Bears(L), vs Cowboys(W), vs Rams(L), vs Chargers(L), @ Rams(L), vs Chiefs(W)

49ERS(1-6)[4]: @ Chiefs(L), @ Chargers(L), vs Rams(L), @ Seahawks(L), vs Seahawks(W), vs Bears(L), @ Rams(L)

CARDINALS(0-7)[4]: @ Rams(L), vs Bears(L), vs Seahawks(L), @ Chiefs(L), @ Chargers(L), vs Rams(L), @ Seahawks(L)

Imagine rooting for a team that has ever been impacted by Andy “Choke in the playoffs” Reid

If you want your son to play in the nfl you need to be Black and not actually naming your son, the little nigga has to grow with a single Mother

Whoops, this was meant to reply to this

>imagine rooting for a team

I'm a fan of the sport. Not of teams

>Grady Jarrett gets $42.5M in guarantees, source said, on his 4-year, $68M deal.

What do you think about this deal Yea Forums?

Attached: r180369_1296x729_16-9[1].jpg (1296x729, 197K)

imagine imagining

Imagine rooting for a team in the same country as you

I root for a conference, not a team.

Wasted money on a player that isn’t an issue on that shit team. They’re losing Julio and instead they pay a DE.

>criticizing sample size without regard to the size of the NFL season
DURRRR. BIG NUMBERS MEAN RELEVANT!

Thanks for outing yourself as a statistics brainlet. By your retarded logic, nothing can be derived from any NFL statistics because the season is too short at only 16 games. By your same retarded logic, we can derive plenty of meaningful data from yard differential because those numbers are way bigger.

Why are southerners so good at NCAA, but bad at the NFL?

Attached: 06DBD8C6-375A-445F-A3EA-2431B4B87650.jpg (880x730, 73K)

Because that’s the only thing that high schoolers have to look forward to in life is to play NCAA for a team like this

Attached: 4898641D-033C-479D-BF00-26576339197E.jpg (586x785, 132K)

>imagine unironically being a fan of the NFL

Half the leagues history happened before you're born. The XFL will rise again.

This is only half true

Attached: 9ACDF102-DF59-47B6-B98E-7A696C09BFD4.jpg (1425x828, 349K)

>more than half of the titans schedule was against playoff teams, 4 road games. still finished 9-7
>bears play 3 games against playoff teams, 0 road games
the nfl is so unfair

The most patrician answer

Cry faggot, titans deserve mediocrity

>Does he have no appreciation for all the extra marketing opportunities he gets simply by being the Cowboys QB
Thank you. He would be a fucking nobody had he been drafted by some shitter team like the Bengals that have 0 global presence. Dude must fucking know hes not good enough to get a second big contract so hes trying to get every penny he can get now.

basketball does not require the most skill, it fucking sucks in the modern era. might have been true 20-30 years ago, but the game now is terrible.

fewer games is better. the nba and mlb games dont matter until the last 20-30 games of the season. the first 50 games are superfluous fluff that nobody cares about. nfl is superior. every single game matters the whole season because they all have a big impact. in the nfl its like every regular season game has the same importance as playoff games in other sports.

nfl is highest skill, highest entertainment, best sport.

this

its going to be funny to me when the rams regress as goff collapses and green gay stays at the bottom of the shitpile that is the nfcnorth. i cant wait to see all the green gay butthurt when they still suck this year

>BIG NUMBERS MEAN RELEVANT!
I mean, that's kind of how it works

Impressive someone went through all the work to format these horrifically wrong guesses. It's almost as if it's been regurgitated by a bot who hasn't ever actually witnessed a football game in real time.

But i get to live in kansas city, the promise land

Attached: 20190708_194724.jpg (1087x917, 623K)

Midget football would have been much cooler.

>patrick mahomes

Attached: soyi.png (293x172, 9K)

for me its sam darnold

Attached: Sanae_7.jpg (850x970, 100K)

>for me its sam darnold

Attached: soyd.jpg (250x143, 6K)

Patrick Mahomes is only the 2nd most reddit QB behind luck.
Big Ben is the least reddit QB as he is a rapist

oh look a wojak poster. into the trash he goes

While in a very, very broad general sense having a bigger sample size is good, it isn't necessary for statistical significance. What matters more is what you're saying with the data, whether the data gathered with the sample size used can be extrapolated to the general population, or in some cases how much of available data has been captured. It has become a popular trend for people ignorant of statistics/layman/retards to criticize sample size for data or study conclusions that they don't like because they think it makes them sound smart.

But especially in this instance, it's fucking stupid. Because the data I'm referencing is the 2018 season and vs playoff teams. I literally cited every possible data point within that area. Criticizing the sample size is nonsensical, because it is the entire possible sample.

>hearsay allegations against jameis without hard evidence
>is suspended for four games
>richie incognito literally threatens to kill people, and has been fined & suspended several times and has an extensive history of instability
>is suspended for two games
"The NFL doesn't have a race problem", they said...

Sam Darnold is reddit

imagine having sex

care to explain? why is a QB reddit?

around blacks, never relax

>Impressive someone went through all the work to format these horrifically wrong guesses
...Those aren't guesses, you fucking moron. Those are results from the 2018 season of team results against playoff teams.

Phillip Based Rivers is the least reddit QB

Attached: white future.jpg (1140x641, 108K)

Will he ever win the BIG GAME?

Attached: 5897f753eac1d.image[1].jpg (1200x800, 170K)

I wonder if anyone will bet on whether Richie murders someone within the next 2 years. Because I would take that action.

Attached: MATT.png (1218x810, 1.97M)

He plays for the most reddit team

No. I'm not even kidding when I say 28-3 emotionally crippled him.

youtube.com/watch?v=yjn881YOpbQ

Just fast forward to 2:40 when he tries to talk about 28-3. His voice cracks, lots of deep gulps. He'll never get over it.

those are the eyes of a broken man.

>this team is reddit
>this player is reddit

this argument is garbage

Attached: Cartarded.jpg (370x527, 114K)

Jets are a Yea Forums team. Yea Forums loves loser cuck teams that only win once in a while. They hate teams that win a lot or really popular teams. You know, teams that don't appeal to the edgy contrarian. That's why Yea Forums is Aaron Rodgers turf. Jets. Ravens. etc etc. Cuck teams.

Damn you're like triple retarded

Attached: Untitled4.png (424x254, 18K)

Holy fuck imagine losing in the fucking superbowl when the score was 28-3 deep in the 3rd
what the fuck? Did that happen? oh no no no
JUSTlanta

Attached: 1561786265921.jpg (593x578, 106K)

no. shitty teams Yea Forums goes for are teams like the lions or bears or the jags when they weren't annoying. the jest are just a team everyone likes to make fun of.

I want the Jets to do well but I think Darnold is too soft to really lead a team. I just don't see guys really putting their all in for a guy like him. He's too nice. He's basically Andrew Luck without any talent.

so hes andrew luck

Why couldn't the Browns do what everyone wanted them to do and draft that bust Darnold? Everyone thought Mayfield was going to the Jets, would have been a match made in heaven.

>darnold is a bust
hes a good QB, but holy fuck bowles is a terrible coach. sure gase isnt amazing, but i have faith in the kid. hes young so theres time to bounce back

Be honest. Do you seriously think Darnold will ever go anywhere in the NFL? I know it's his rookie year and all, and Peyton Manning had a bad rookie year...but I just don't see it with Darnold. He's the type of guy who disappears after a few seasons.

your post is reddit lmao xD

yes. I believe he can because anything is possible. maybe mayfield is a fucking fraud this season and the jets go 10-6 and make playoffs. shit is speculation right now

darnold is a game manager at best

Gase is the wrong choice, though.

Eli is the least reddit quarterback.

Would you mind leaving? We had a whole thread without you or that other shithead posting in this general and it was kinda nice.

what is the point of this picture

Still banned, OldGay?

How many QBs have actually won a SB after losing their first one? I can only think of Elway.

Bob Griese, 1971 dolphins

Len Dawson

So, is Matty Ice on that level?

Attached: 3-28.jpg (800x800, 49K)

Today, I heard someone describe Lamar Jackson as "an amazing young qb".

Why are people so dumb?

At one point he was >zero playoff wins, and he did overcome that.

He played pretty damn good in that game.

Attached: ice.png (466x872, 43K)

well the packers schedule was still hard, even if it wasnt among the hardest
giants played cowboys and eagles twice, with 10 and 9 wins respectively. jags played the texans and colts, with 11 and 10 wins
even if the packers did have a top 10 hardest schedule, if it gets easier, thats part of the reason why they could improve total wins
not to mention the packers kept all their playoff opponents tied in the 4th quarter (13 win rams, 12 win bears twice, 11 win pats, 10 win hawks), where a lot of those teams just got blown out against good team, even at home

MUH DEFENSE

berd turds

Well griese played in the NFL while wearing glasses so maybe

Attached: bon griese.jpg (641x750, 78K)

No, he was the other "shithead" I was referring to. It would be kinda nice if you both left. Forever.

Gruden inherited a worst case scenario Top 3 defense and didn't have time to install his own offense for the season they went to the Superb Owl.

It was quite literally someone else's team that carried him to a championship.

He's dogshit at everything except, possibly, training QBs. You just sort of have to take that on faith because he hasn't ruined one yet. Unlike front offices, teams, and franchises.

>where a lot of those teams just got blown out against good team, even at home
Except just as many of them kept the games extremely close against those playoff teams, as I already illustrated earlier in the thread. The Giants kept pretty much all of their vs playoff teams games close. The Titans played NINE games against playoff teams, and won 4 of them even with 4 road games. The Bengals beat two playoff teams. So on and so forth.

There's tons of 6-10 type teams that manage close games against playoff teams, even 1 seed or 2 seed teams, that ultimately fail. That "tied at the start of the 4th quarter" thing is a useless meme stat. Some of these underdog teams were beating the playoff teams early on and lost, or even led going into the 4th quarter etc etc.

All of it boils down to nothing. Citing close games vs playoff teams with the Packers is irrelevant precisely because there's like 10 other teams with similar records that did the same thing or BEAT those teams. Nothing changes that they were 6-10 crap teams, nor are they poised to do better next year with easier schedules.

I guess in a nutshell, your argument is just irrelevant speculation with no bearing on how the Packers will actually do in 2019. Nobody cares about "almost", because it means nothing.

Skins dreams man. They need him back to coach Haskins up either way.

Wow. An actual fucking retard.

Do you not recognize the actual results from the 2018 season?

I think Haskins will be a mega bust, I was never impressed with him at OSU

I agree but right now he's the hometown hero.

Cool story, bro.

Attached: approved.jpg (480x472, 17K)

no it doesnt mean nothing, you cant just pretend it does. Its very useful information in projecting changes in an nfl season, which I'm doing. Dont you think the 6-10 team that played a bunch of close games might be better than the 6-10 team that got blown out 10 times?
By extension you could say yards dont matter, or touchdowns, or interceptions, or time of possesion, all that matters is wins and losses. Its just a very narrow and dogmatic perspective that basically admits defeat from trying to project a following season. Just because you can name a handful of teams that also played close games against good teams doesnt invalidate the fact that one particular team was part of the group, nor does it invalidate that not every playoff team is the same, not every game was played at home or on the road, and neither was each "close" game equally competitive.
giants played 2 opponents with 12 or more wins. They got blown out at home and beat the other at home. Packers played 3 opponents with 12 or more wins. Beat one at home, tied the two on the road in the 4th quarter. Youre just acting like these are identical situations without any further analysis.
you can say we don't have enough evidence to make sufficient claims without further statistical analysis, but acting like it means nothing is just as bad as overreacting to minor differences in the situations

Name 1 reason why Tom Brady shouldn’t use his huge wealth to commission Jostens to make a custom Patriots infinity gauntlet specially made to fit his 6 rings
What the fuck else is he gonna spend his money on

Attached: 12.jpg (480x480, 24K)

Does anyone have a .webm of Donte Jackson picking off >balding fraud and taking it the whole length of the field for a two-point conversion last year?

Webms are for faggots but I’ll have a gif of it in 10 minutes

Your passive aggressiveness combined with the political hamfisting in 90% of conversations is why people hate you. Aside from being a meming cringe lord anyway, but that’s typical of all tripfags trying to fit in.

>no it doesnt mean nothing, you cant just pretend it does. Its very useful information in projecting changes in an nfl season, which I'm doing.
No, it isn't. I'm illustrating exactly why it isn't useful. By that exact same logic you'd have to project a leap for every team that did BETTER than the Packers against playoff teams who are now facing easier schedules. You'd have to project the Dolphins being a playoff team in 2019 using your same logic since they only improved the roster this year and finished 7-9 last year and did BETTER than the Packers did against playoff teams.

Now do this with every other team on the list that did better/made upgrades and suddenly you have like 90% of the league projected to finish 10-6 or better. There is always one winner and loser in a game, obviously, and that just can't happen. The problem here is you're trying to project that the Packers have these unique circumstances, and I've already shown it isn't unique and it isn't indicative of anything. You just stubbornly ignore it because you love the Packers.

>Dont you think the 6-10 team that played a bunch of close games might be better than the 6-10 team that got blown out 10 times?
No, not really. This never really happens to begin with, as every team we're discussing maybe had a few blowout losses and a bunch of close games too. I don't think the 2018 Packers are of noticeably different quality to, say, the Bengals, or Dolphins, or Giants.

Winning by a lot or a little actually doesn't reflect overall team strength very well unless it's a consistent habitual pattern, and it almost never is.

>By extension you could say yards dont matter, or touchdowns, or interceptions, or time of possesion
They matter, but they're terrible metrics for projecting team success. And again, it would require a consistent pattern, and that's very rare in football with these weaker teams.

The quality is shit but here it is

Attached: Donte Jackson pick 2.gif (533x300, 3.98M)

Just because you can name a handful of teams that also played close games against good teams doesnt invalidate the fact that one particular team was part of the group
It invalidates the idea that that team had some kind of unique circumstance that would help propel them to multiple extra wins the next season. The fact that close loss games against playoff teams is so common is indicative that I'm correct in assuming that it's an irrelevant observation.

>nor does it invalidate that not every playoff team is the same, not every game was played at home or on the road, and neither was each "close" game equally competitive.
And yet even if we get into that minutiae, it will still mean practically nothing, because the truth is with a lot of those games, they had weird results. Bad teams beating good teams in a road game, but losing easier games at home. Saints losing to the Bucs at home but beating much harder teams on the road etc. None of those details really mean much for the 2019 season. You're desperately trying to have it mean something specifically for the Packers, and it just doesn't.

>Packers played 3 opponents with 12 or more wins. Beat one at home, tied the two on the road in the 4th quarter. Youre just acting like these are identical situations without any further analysis.
And we can look at any of the other teams I listed and come up with identical results, except in their cases a few of those bad teams came up with WINS over those playoff teams, not "almost close losses", which are way worse.

hahaha imagine if he wore that and then demanded he lick the soles of your feet because he was all powerful hahaha gross

All you do is bitch and moan, I didn't realize my Mom took a break from reddit.

“You”. Who the fuck is “you”? I’m not old gay you obsessed retard. Why is it so hard to process NO ONE LIKES YOU.

>Jags when they weren't annoying.
This was when?

Darnold is also younger than Mayfield.

I don't understand why people keep putting him in the QB lists. You wouldn't put your forks and spoons in the same dishwasher side bin, would you?

Eh...I never hear anyone say Vick or Kaepernick weren't QBs even though they were both prolific running quarterbacks. Same with Aaron Rodgers to an extent. The only difference is Lamar is currently an exceptionally poor thrower. But he's still basically a bad Michael Vick.

>Old Gay posts anonymously while trip banned.
ITS NoT ME GuYs!

I hate old gay, and that isn't old gay. He doesn't act anything like him. You, on the other hand, stick out like a sore thumb.

Everyone fucking hates both of you. This isn't a secret.

Fins. And it hurts.

Hard to get a 99 on a fucking trash team

again youre compartmentalizing playoff teams as if they are all the same, and acting like playing them on the road and home are the same too
Dolphins played 4 opponents with 11 or more wins, beat two of them at home, got blown out in two road games. Your whole arguement is based off that being analogous to the packers, who played 3 close games on the road against 11 win teams, and one win at home. Youre just acting like theyre the same situation
>a lot of those games, they had weird results. Bad teams beating good teams in a road game, but losing easier games at home
absolutely, in fact its better evidence for the competency of teams that consistently played playoff teams close, like the packers, unlike the giants, dolphins, and jaguars. That differential variance drops dramatically over a multiple game sample, especially for a team that didnt get blown out all against any playoff team, unlike the dolphins, giants, jags
This is just one factor in forecasting. You started to question the validity of the schedule factor, it was never the basis of my arguement
We know the packers added more talent than the giants and dolphins. Its a toss up with the jags, as they added the better players but less total. Giants were rated 8th in adjusted games lost to injury, packers were 21st, miami was 22nd, jags were 27th. If they all regressed to the mean, giants would lose more games, packers and miami would win somewhat more, jags would win quite a few more. Packers were higher than giants in yards and points, and significantly more than jags and dolphins. Packers were also higher in defense yards and points ranking than the giants and dolphins too.
Every year some below average team makes a rebound and improves. More often than not its the team that had the most going for it. Out of the list of teams, the one with the best offense, defense, better performance against good teams, and added the most talent is the likeliest one (I expect a jags rebound too anyway)

My wife!

Attached: 8421778E-2E43-4689-BEBB-BEFC97ED3C3F.jpg (640x680, 122K)

>He would be a fucking nobody had he been drafted by some shitter team like the Bengals that have 0 global presence
even when the bengals are good, they get 0 pub

He and Gisele are saving up to buy Brazil.

Does Big Dick Nick handle that for him, too?

Jags played the pats, chiefs, cowboys, texans twice, eagles, colts twice with 8 teams total, 4 on the road with an average win total of 10.625. Their average point differential was -8.88 with st.dev of 14.01
packers played bears twice, rams, pats, hawks total of 5 teams, 4 on the road, with an average wins of 11.6. Their average point diff was -5 with st.dev of 5.79
giants played cowboys twice, texans, saints, eagles twice, bears, and colts, with an average wins of 10.5. Average point diff of zero with st.dev of 3.66
dolphins played pats twice, bears, texans, and colts with an average wins of 11. Average point diff was -9.8, st.dev of 14. 67
teams ranked by point differential: giants, packers, jags, dolphins
teams ranked by opponent wins: packers, dolphins, jags, giants
teams ranked by point diff variance: giants, packers, dolphins, jags
packers were probably the best given second highest point diff, highest % of playoff caliber games on the road, second lowest point diff variance, and highest average of opponent total wins

forgot to mention, giants played 4 of 8 teams on the road

>his QBs wife fucks black men
>his QB makes out with his son
No wonder you’re obsessed with cucking.

>tfw ywn be introduced to her by a mutual friend at a party
>ywn spend that evening making her laugh all night with silly jokes
>ywn have your mutual friend tell you a few days later that Emma thought you were really funny and wanted your number
>ywn treat her to a nice Italian restaurant on a brisk summer evening
>ywn surprise her by ordering and chatting with the waiter in Italian
>ywn tell her that you're feeling adventurous and suggest heading to the local seasonal fair
>ywn experience the vibrant, stimulating lights and sounds as you two walk together pointing in excitement at the carnival games
>ywn throw a ball and knock down glass bottles to win her a prize and see her eyes light up as you hand it to her
>ywn drive her home listening to some cheesy 80s love song
>ywn walk her to her doorstep and have her stare into your eyes as she tells you that she hasn't had that much fun in years
>ywn see her beautiful face glimmer in the moonlight
>ywn feel her hand gently grab yours and ever so softly hold it
>ywn tell her that you had a great night too and that you'd like to see her again
>ywn have her lean in to kiss your cheek and then hug you
>ywn see her face light up and say that she can't wait
>ywn go home that night, lie on your bed, staring at the ceiling knowing that you're catching the feels
>ywn catch whiffs of her perfume lingering on you
>ywn fall asleep thinking how she may be the future mother of your children
>ywn have a healthy, loving relationship with Emma
>tfw

Attached: Emma.jpg (1362x2048, 683K)

nice, wish I came up with that

>explodes your offense

99 overall.

Attached: bobby-wagner-650-362-mmqb.png (1300x724, 511K)

So now it's a Canadian VPN....

Unironically the packers

Youre a fucking clown, kill yourself retard, the Packers wont even break .500 you stupid delusional faggot, Rodgers is washed up, and is already fighting with the Twink they hired.

repressed seethe from 20 years of dominance coming out

What? I used to make these occasionally many months ago

>the packers
>good

these are the QBs the packers play this year
Mitchell Trubisky, Kirk Cousins, Joe Flacco, Carson Wentz, Dak Prescott, Matthew Stafford, Derek Carr, Patrick Mahomes, Philip Rivers, Cam Newton, Jimmy Garoppolo, Eli Manning, Redskins QB
8 win minimum with top 10 defense easy

more so the rest of the nfcn being terrible

>Raiders with AB
>Chiefs with Mahomes getting stronger and stronger each day
Do we really stand a chance next season?

Attached: LOrlUJv.png (640x636, 307K)

What would happen if Bobby Wagner and Luke Kuechly exchanged defenses?

Bear in mind that the 2017 Seahawks defense and the 2018 Panthers defense had almost the exact same problem (Once great defense now can't stop anyone because all their players are old as shit and they've done a poor job drafting young players to spell/replace aging ones0

Your linebacking corps is better. WR1s are a meme and so is Mahomes.

Now you fucking take care of TD and get him the Super Bowl he deserves. ;_;

Attached: proxy.duckduckgo.com.jpg (840x472, 35K)

I hope so. Phil seems like a nice guy and I think he deserves to win an owl

How did I know some silly ass bastard would make the Tards their dark horse super bowl pick?

Attached: Screenshot_2019-07-15-21-48-12.png (2880x1440, 2.85M)

If anything happens with Gordon as a result of contract disputes, you guys are in trouble. Ekeler doesn't come close in production, and Rivers is too old to average +280 yards through the air every game.

he wont be back on nfl network

>Dolphins played 4 opponents with 11 or more wins, beat two of them at home, got blown out in two road games. Your whole arguement is based off that being analogous to the packers, who played 3 close games on the road against 11 win teams, and one win at home. Youre just acting like theyre the same situation
No, I'm not pretending they're the same. I'm making the argument that the difference between the two is completely irrelevant and that those outcomes have no correlation to anything and are not indicative of fucking anything. It has absolutely zero bearing on how well the Packers will do in 2019. It's statistical voodoo nonsense. The difference is so negligible and theoretical that it doesn't warrant consideration. You making these cutoffs and distinctions between 10/11/12 wins or point differentials or whatever else is just useless fluff. It doesn't translate to team strength or wins. Unless you can demonstrate some kind of history of teams with "close games" with playoff teams like this translating into successful next seasons or surges in strength and some shit, you're just jerking off with pointless stats that mean nothing. Which is precisely what you're doing.

Point differentials, close games, going tied into the 4th with playoff teams. None of it MEANS anything. It doesn't even translate into a single win. We're talking about theoretical partial credit FOR LOSING. It's just nonsensical theorycrafting.

>adjusted games lost to injury
Ugh...the ultimate fucking meme stat. Why are Packers fans so obsessed with "what if" and "doesn't count", and "if only", and "we just need more help", "we weren't healthy". The endless obsession with excuses is just sickening.

>Packers fan thinks Packers are the most poised for a rebound out of all the teams that played like shit in 2018
Gee, I'm shocked.

I also want to point out how doubly fucking stupid this argument is because the Packers also barely edged out fucking awful teams like the 49ers by a field goal, the Redskins blew them out by two touchdowns, the Lions fucking destroyed them(I know, I know...DOESNT COUNT because Rodgers faked an injury to avoid embarrassment), they went to overtime with the FUCKING JETS etc. Got swept by the Lions and couldn't even put away the mediocre Vikings. Consistently struggling and losing to average and weak teams. But that can't be a pattern, yet a few close games against good teams IS a pattern. It means the Packers are poised to skyrocket in 2019. Let's just ignore all the other disfunction. Your argument is just ridiculous and biased as all fucking hell.

The point being you're specifically trying to craft a narrative on a specific set of games as being significant and a pattern, but it isn't. You labeling all of them close games is even a stretch. Losing 31-17 to the Patriots isn't really a "close game". But according to you it is because they were tied at the start of the 4th quarter. Most people, regardless, are not going to consider that a "close game" when one team wins by two touchdowns.

All of it boils down to you quibbling over whether the Packers have some imaginary advantage over trash teams like the Jaguars, Giants, or Dolphins when it comes to 2019. Not even good teams, just the trash piles.

Was with you until you called Jacksonville a trash team. You've argued so passionately against this user only to say something retarded... :(

absolutely love this boomer sport lads

Baseball is the boomer sport, and basketball is the zoomer sport. Football is somewhere inbetween

damn those packer fans, always so optimistic

what can be done to make running back a more coveted position? all my favorite players ever are running backs, makes me sad to see the league value them so little lads.

youtube.com/watch?v=kx0nh2St3kQ
B-Dawk was soooo good.

There is a difference between optimism and delusion. Optimism is "I hope we're good in 2019 even though we spilled our spaghetti in 2018. go Pack". Delusion is "We were better than most teams in 2018 and it's supported by statistics that we'll be good in 2019 because (excuses for losing) (conjecture) (overvaluing the fuck out of prospects) (statistics mental gymnastics)"

>Was with you until you called Jacksonville a trash team.
I'm sorry, user. They were trash in 2018. Not in general. And like the Packers, not everything about their team is bad, but as a whole product, it was last year.

running isn't as flashy as passes, but anyone with an actual brain knows that the run game is immensely important. There was a post a couple threads ago that showed that most of 2018's playoff teams had more run-heavy offenses than the league average. The run game gives much more ball and clock control than a pass heavy offense; it can function as a defensive tool beyond its inherent role in the offensive design by strangling out the time the opposing team has to work with.
I don't know what can do to make the RB a more coveted position, but don't downplay its value. it is very important and it seems to me that every team without a competent run game ultimately gets exposed.

The absolute madman

he kinda seems like a jerk on the field

It's probably cause this is the first time the Packers have missed the playoffs 2 seasons in a row since 2005-06. We're not used to being bad so we delude ourselves into thinking it won't last. This season... maybe we'll make the playoffs? I dunno. We have the pieces to make the playoffs, it's about staying healthy for fucking once too.

They unironically drafted too well these past 5 years.

I say that as an iggles fan

Imagine drafing so well for 5 years you cant afford to pay you players and still not winning anything

It's quite impressive tbhwyf

Attached: 1557707592329.jpg (1000x847, 516K)

He talks shit without cursing, kind of odd to me. I have mixed feelings about him not because of that, but rather him having stacked teams in the 2000s and still not being able to get over that hump.
He's just a microcosm of San Diego sports: look good for awhile, shits the bed when it matters, and never wins anything meaningful.

I'm just reading a lot of nuh uh doesnt count means nothing blah blah
theres analytic firms that make real cash betting of football, they have to be using this data for something, because theres no other data for them to use
some amount of teams make multiple win improvements literally every season, its not uniformly random. its way more likely the teams that played close games, put up more numbers than other teams in their bracket, and fixed roster holes, like the jags, falcons, packers, browns, maybe redskins and buccs, but I think they still have some holes. you can just invalidate whatever data you'd like, our opinions mean nothing anyway
wow a team with a losing record had some ugly games, so did every team with a losing record in the league. I'm trying to look for patterns that do differentiate the teams, as well as whatever season situations that can seperate them. I dont think any team sub 8 wins didn't suck
in the end a 9 win season is only a 2.5 win improvement anyway. Sure my arguements won't individually yield much a difference, but if only a few of my several arguements come true, its no stretch of the imagination that at team that does have talent could be in the playoff hunt
go ahead hit me with some "trash team washed up QB get blown out blah blah" I won't even read it. I'm here for the number and strategy, its my hobby, so feel free to share some arguements a little more concrete instead

literally no first year packers coach has made the playoff. I'm sure theres not relation but its kind of a curse to some
I'd just hate to see them squander the talent in the run game, more slow unimaginative drives, and losing to dumb situational football like special teams fumbles

>make fun of patriots
>get 24 hour ban
Why are c**stals so thin-skinned and why do they become Jannies and literally cry about shitposts for free?

extremely based post

Attached: 1562757159082.jpg (2486x3000, 1.27M)

As a healthy starting QB, Tom Brady missed the playoffs exactly once: 2002. His team missed the playoffs once because of an injury to him, 2008.
As a healthy starting QB, Peyton Manning missed the playoffs twice: 1998 (rookie season) and 2001. His team missed the playoffs once because of an injury to him, 2011.
As a healthy starting QB, Aaron Rodgers missed the playoffs twice: 2008 and 2018. His team missed the playoffs once because of an injury to him, 2017.
As a healthy starting QB, Drew Brees missed the playoffs nine times (2002, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2016).

One of these things is not like the others.

Kirk Cousins will be paid $27.5 million dollars this year.

>I'm just reading a lot of nuh uh doesnt count means nothing blah blah
It's not my fault you're insistent on finding meaning in statistics that mean nothing. You're not correlating your findings to anything. You're just comparing point differentials and trying to give losses some type of theoretical value like you can find out how good or bad a team is by their losses, or that it will translate into how good they are the next year. Do you even get how insane all of that is? If you're having to look at a team's LOSSES to see a silver lining, that should already tell you you're in trouble.

>its way more likely the teams that played close games, put up more numbers than other teams in their bracket, and fixed roster holes
Then prove it with examples. Until then, you're just making shit up. Because you haven't shown that those stats correlate, only that you theorize that they do for this particular season.

>you can just invalidate whatever data you'd like, our opinions mean nothing anyway
See above. I'm ignoring the statistics you're citing because you haven't shown that they're meaningful or predictive. It seems abundantly obvious to me that you've latched onto them because at a distance, it looks convenient for the team you like.

> I'm trying to look for patterns that do differentiate the teams, as well as whatever season situations that can seperate them.
At least be honest. You are looking for excuses for your favorite team because they did badly last season. You are trying to convince YOURSELF they will do better next year. That's all this is.

It's okay to explore those stats for curiosity's sake. It's interesting and I like looking at that stuff too, but it just doesn't mean much in real football terms. You can do all of that digging and comparison and it's not going to do a single thing to change pic related or something close to it from happening.

Attached: PackerSeason.png (1329x844, 146K)

As a healthy starting QB, Patrick Mahomes missed the playoffs zero times.

Patrick Mahomes II has never beaten the Patriots in his career, and has lost to them twice.

medium.com/@claywendler/tyreek-hill-2014-you-be-the-judge-291f044d059c

The only thing Tyreek Hill is guilty of is having rough sex. Literally fucking it.

Look at these pictures of Crystal from 2014, There's nothing there. In the court documents.

A. Yes. He had my hair. And he was grabbing it and,
and tossing me around the room.

Q. So was the fact that he had hold of your hair, did that cause you to be tossed around the room?

A. Yes.

3 Q. Okay. Were you able to get away from him?

4 A. He was pounding my head against the wall. And he eventually stopped.
AND THEN LATER
Q. Did you see any damage to the apartment? I'm
sorry.

22 Did you see any damage to Mr. Hill's's room?

23 A. I didn't note any damage to his room, no.

24 Q. Any damage to his door or anything of that
nature?

25 A. There was none noted.

Exactly 0 college players are going to punch a human being in the face and not leave a bruise.

And that's not a busted lip. That shits not even swollen.

Left side of the neck is a hicky.

Right side, idk what that even is. It looks like a scrape.

you sound like you badly want to believe that you aint rooting for a wife beating and child beating monster. sorry to say, you are.

>Tyreek Hill is a monster, a fucking heinous monster, if you EVEN so try and SAY he brutally, ruthlessly beat his pregnant girlfriend YOU ARE HUMAN SCUM, and you SUPPORT DOMESTIC ABUSE AND SUPPORT CHILD BEATING MONSTERS

>Pic related, look at her the same night at the ER, look at her badly beaten in face, her purple and black eye, and bruised cover neck, thats TOTALLY not a hickey from sex they admitted to having right before the incident

Attached: file.png (1066x1288, 2.29M)

>MVP
Patrick Mahomes
>OPOTY
Christian McCaffrey
>DPOTY
Khalil Mack
>COTY
Kyle Shanahan
>CBPOTY
Leonard Fournette

yup you sound desperate

>T. didn't look at the pictures at all

If Hill wanted to hurt Crystal what so ever, there'd be far more visible evidence from an NFL caliber collegiate athlete. I've got friends into rough sex and BDSM, she looks like after just about literally every date night ever.

They had sex right before.

From the court documents.

MS. RAMSEY: Have you ever been bruised or had hickeys because of sex with him before?

ESPINAL: Yes.

Q. Okay. So when was the last time that you had sex with him prior to this supposedly occurring?

A. That day."

thats some nice lawyer snake misleading that you fell for there. notice he didnt ask if she got a hickey during the sex that happened during that day, but only asked if she had gotten them before. typical snake misdirection.

i see the pictures, and i see a battered woman. im sorry you hate woman and want to cheer on a womanbeating monster but stop pretending he isnt.

Through old-fashioned networking and investigative research, we have spoken to one of the attending nurses who distinctly remembers the incident.

While this person will not go on record and demanded to remain anonymous, they shared concern that Espinal was never punched in the stomach as claimed.

This person also indicated that some (not all) hospital staff had doubts on the actuality of the injuries, with some staff concerned about the possibility of self-infliction.

Lastly — and this part might be difficult to read for some — sources informed us that Crystal was into a rougher variety of intimacy than others might be accustomed to.

As we will detail later, both parties have admitted to engaging in consensual sex on December 11, 2014, just hours before the ER visit and arrest.

She omitted this to police in her original report, and yet it came out in a deposition in early 2015 as both sides prepared for trial.

>MVP
Deshaun Watson
>OPOTY
Deandre Hopkins
>DPOTY
JJ Watt
>COTY
Bill O'Brien
>CBPOTY
Will Fuller

20 MS. RAMSEY: Your Honor, we would object to
21 these being admitted into evidence for the reason they don't
22 show anything at all. Most of the items -- most of the
23 photographs show no injuries whatsoever or alleged injuries
24 whatsoever. And we would object to them being admitted into
25 evidence.
DISTRICT COURT OF OKLAHOMA-OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT-COPY 21 1 THE COURT: Show the objection is overruled.

Also that they found no bleeding on her scalp from being "swung around by the hair" or from "head being repeatedly slammed into the wall" or the likely damage to the drywall from that force

>assumes they were banned for making fun of the patriots
>cannot suspend disbelief that they are in fact annoying, retarded and gay; and literally nobody wants them around
>immediately starts complaining once ban ends because it's always important to remind admins that you're ten years old

And he will earn every penny of it from his back.

You see a battered woman because you're desperately looking for one, because you're either a whiteknighting cuck or you want to see a black man's life destroyed by an opportunistic shitbag. There is absolutely no damage done to her body or face (aside from the marks on her neck which would be just about fucking anything). If she had actually been attacked by anyone seeking to do REAL harm, this woman she would be in much, much worse condition.

In conclusion, you're a faggot. Kill yourself.

...

>You must be a /pol/tard if you think the pictures of abuse, and the evidence left does not match up with the claims by Crystal

Didn't Hill punch his toddler son in the chest? Who cares about the girl?

Don't encourage him. I hope you realize the past like 10 posts were all the same rabid zealot trying to shill Hill's innocence.

yes /pol/ is for incels like you that hate women and say incel things like cuck and whiteknight

I'm not the person you replied too with
It's funny how you assume we're the same people though.

>aha you thought there was only one incel but there were, in fact, two!
oh okay

Once again
>if you think the pictures of abuse, and the evidence left does not match up with the claims by Crystal you're a /pol/tard incel

>Saying Incel Things like "Cuck and White Knight"
>Not realizing saying the word incel itself sounds just as bad as cuck and white knight

good fucking lord. Imagine being so dense evidence can be presented infront of you and you dismiss it. Tell me how those pictures show so called "Injuries" that'd equate to more than rough sex?

Picture related, Photo of some of the abuse of Greg Hardy's assault on Nicole Holder. Notice how everything is easily visible VS crystal.

Crystal, admittedly into rough sex has signs of a hickey, some light strangulation which once again, is a common practice in rough sex. She also has admitted to having had bruises from rough sex with Hill before. Ontop of that she admitted to having sex with Hill that day.

Now we go back to Crystals claims of being slammed against a wall multiple times, being picked up by her head and slammed into the wall. Now why is it that there was no dents or damage in the dry wall? Why is it Tyreek's apartment when investigated did not have any damage to the door, or room despite Crystals claim that she had indeed been tossed around the room.

Why is it that despite being picked up by an NFL star, and so called being hit and punched she doesn't signs of visible abuse like Nicole Holder here?

To believe Hill is this abusive demon, who did all of what Crystal claims Hill did, and then looking at the actual evidence it is blatantly and painfully obvious nothing in the story of what happens adds up.

What Crystal is doing only hurts actual victims of abuse, and it's obvious she wasn't one.

Attached: file.png (800x557, 897K)

>the absolute state of matt

Attached: GOATED.jpg (1364x1761, 283K)

Nobody gives a fuck about a battered concubine or a crippled niglet

holy fucking autism batman, look at this dude. i mean there's incels and then there's this guy.

>Has no arguments against the points made in the most

Tell me wheres the evidence?

the evidence is on with the other incels. you will fit right in my friend.

You'd think the way the media talked about Hill "Beating" his pregnant girlfriend we'd have seen pictures like this. When Chris Brown beat Rihanna.

Instead, we have this.
once again, you've got no actual argument when having been presented with actual evidence, and not sensationalist journalism. Real abuse victims, look like they've been put through a ringer, not like they just got done with a night of rough sex.

Attached: file.png (1100x747, 1.41M)

ah yes, and all abusive husbands arent beating their women, just having rough sex. i guess hill was having rough sex with his son too. incel logic.

How come you ignore each and every example I've brought up of actual women being abused? Then you proceed to do a strawman argument, misrepresenting the point I make, and implying that I believe abuse victims do not exist.

If you've ever seen domestic abuse victims, it's a lot worse than what's shown in
Instead you keep refusing to address any point I've brought up.

On the child abuse case, there is no evidence either Tyreek Hill ever abused his kid. There's evidence of child abuse on his son, but both parents IE: Crystal, and Tyreek admit to having used a belt on their kid for corporal punishment. The state were unable to determine which parent went too far. Crystal Espinal also has, in public made concerning statements about her opinions on child abuse.

Once again though, I wouldn't expect someone who can't have proper discourse have all the information on a case they preach their opinions on.

Attached: file.png (584x1200, 576K)

youre implying i care about your random incel ranting or that anyone on this board is going to read your walls of text on shit nobody cares about. go to bed tyreek.

Chiefs fans going absolutely berserk over Tyreek hill. Green Gay fans flipping shit over “adjusted games lost” or some shit. Uppity fanbases desperately grasping at straws knowing irrelevancy is knocking.

freemasonry is a 100% cryptozionist organization that enslaves us all seeking to create a one world mulatto race of slaves

also brees>brady

let's get this to 500

>
>
>

NEW THREAD

why do you think i kept egging the autist on to make giant walls of text explaining why hill is innocent?

Attached: 1234.jpg (1402x812, 249K)

>making a new thread early just so you can blow the player youve been spamming about
jesus christ user, you are the biggest faggot ever.

>500

>Early
>Theres over 500 posts

The thread looks right on time to me, you sound pretty mad though

thats because youre retarded. i guess slurping nigger semen will do that to you.

Be brutally honest about the upcoming season.

Attached: A7B87ACE-18EF-45A7-8D43-F5CF78482811.png (440x171, 21K)

Sex. Have it.

You've literally been replying to everything this guy posts. You also haven't responded to, or answered any of his direct questions to you... Maybe YOU need to go back to /pol/

Because your life is even more pathetic.