/box/ - sweethands edition

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Dillian Whyte vs. Oscar Rivas
Dereck Chisora vs. Artur Szpilka
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>Saturday July 20 FOX PPV
Keith Thurman vs. Manny Pacquiao
Yordenis Ugas vs. Omar Figueroa Jr
Sergey Lipinets vs. John Molina Jr
Luis Nery vs. Juan Carlos Payano

>Saturday July 20 FS1
Caleb Plant vs Mike Lee

>Saturday July 27 Showtime
Gervonta Davis vs. Ricardo Nunez
Yuriorkis Gamboa vs. Roman "Rocky" Martinez

>Saturday July 27 DAZN
Maurice Hooker vs. Jose Ramirez
Tevin Farmer vs. Guillaume Frenois
Murat Gasiev vs. Joey Dawejko

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Kameda's wife is a fucking cutie.

Do they have kids yet?

No knockdown, but it looked good.

Yes she is

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For who

It looked like Kameda knocked down Vargas, but it was ruled a slip.

Vargas v Kameda fight

Kameda hooked Vargas neck and pulled him down thats why its a slip

Inoue would ice any of the 122lbers

Anyone watching the Greer fight? Twitter is saying he lost if the scores are fair

He did but they weren't

Fucking how

Can someone post a link

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Vargas v Kameda fight

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That old lady is Vargas' wife

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Who is that? Kameda's wife is a Mexican.

Thanks

Beristain looks like he crawled out of a coffin to corner Vargas.

pics?

That's her

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Kameda can't get inside.

stop linking me these bums, anyone who cares is watching

he can but hes too timid
that body shot hurt vargas, kameda should have pressed him

Last Round

kameda was one of the most exciting fighters to me back when he was robbed by mcdonald
seems like hes a shadow of himself to be honest

Jerking off to some shit and have thevargas fight in in the background. Looks like shit every time I look over.

Excited for the espn fight though

No, this is her. She's in the audience too.

What was the unsportsmanlike conduct for?

Kameda is rudo tier
Ref is tirantes tier

terence 'bud' crawford holding up the belts

kameda was VERY clearly more powerful and durable than vargas. he had everything he needed to win this fight, except the aggression

Kameda won the fight

Vargas is P4P the most boring world champion

Hitting on the break.

God vargas isn't that exciting of a fighter.

People only say this when they're mad with who won, Vargas very easily controlled the Jap.

Damn they're really showering him with boos lel

He controlled the fight and kameda sealed his fate with his cheating

It's crazy that the Mexican crowd is booing the Mexican.

Eat a dick, spic faggot

Kameda fought like the Mexican though.

He fought like a bitch.

stupid fuckin thing to say. dumb casual fan

Golden Boy just had one of the best cards I've seen in months.

Nobody watching Tupac fight?

I watched it

The card wasn't THAT good, they had a better card like a month ago.
The main event for this one was a bit of a stinker.

the commentators talking about if vargas fighting mexican was hilarious cope

"h-he is fighting mexican, the new *pause* smart mexican style"

kameda got too frustrated and should have focused more on fighting out of the clinch rather than letting it slide until the end. he lost and he knew it and he let it happen, hell of an entertaining fighter tho.

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Vargas is a really sneaky clincher. When Kameda goes in, Vargas would hold on then just rest his shoulders and arms around Kameda to make it looks like hes not the one initiating the clinch. Making it really hard for Kameda to get things off when hes up close.

Still though, Kameda wasnt throwing enough punches to the body when up close and overall and let Vargas zone him out for really long periods of time which makes the fight really easy to score for Vargas.

If Kemeda cant make mid-fight adjustments i cant see him ever winning a title at this weight. He doesnt have the power to just knock guys out at this level so cant just rely on the big shot whlie trying outshot in the center of the ring for most of several rounds in a fight.

*tips fedora*

Any fights worth watching next weekend other than Thurman/Pac?

I know Dubois/Gorman and Joyce/other guy were pretty anticipated this weekend, but I skipped them as I didn't really find the matchups compelling. I heard Dubois looked good, though. Maybe he'll get a high-ranked guy next?

To me 117-110 by all 3 judges seems corrupt to me

Run, throw a weak combo from the outside, clinch when Nip gets close, repeat.

Boring fighter, not looking for the fight.

couldn't find a stream so na
not gonna contribute money to a woman beating nog

I've had people try to do this to me and I just expose my sides with a high guard to bait a trade or if they want to clinch they can't grab me without being shoved off balance into body hooks, I was getting so frustrated watching kameda fall into the same clinch every time

also vargas could have made some huge left hooks every time kameda went for his overhand, he always shifted perfectly into position for it after his slip to his left

nip should have fought better then, dont call say he fought like a bitch when it ended up working for him. nobody who steps in the ring is a bitch (except brits)

This. Weebs coming out in full force for this one.
Vargas won fair and square, if you don't like it, follow a better fighter who can beat him.

How would Naoya Inoue fare against Vargas? Could he get inside and avoid getting smothered by the clinch?

Looked like an exhibition

literally all of them

he'd beat the piss out of him

nobody knows because inoue hasn't fought anyone bigger than the average 13 year old. he looks real good fighting pipsqueaks so it will be interesting to see when/if he moves up

He'd likely batter Vargas.
Kameda had a similar fight with McDonnell 2x, who Inoue proceeded to beat into submission in under a round.

Except this is objectively false you dumb cazzie.

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you're right, i forgot about that
fuck mcdonald

t. terrified mexican

Respectfully, I doubt that.

The moment Inoue beat McDonnell so easily was the moment I hopped off the Tomoki hypetrain.
Years ago I thought he was the most promising Japanese fighter, but after seeing Inoue make such easy work of a fighter Tomoki struggled to even be competitive with made me realize how weak of a fighter Tomoki is.

It's not completely his fault, he's just not as naturally gifted as, say, Inoue.

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cringe

The way Inoue walks away so casually is bad ass.

he'd annihilate vargas

His wife learned to speak Japanese.

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Real power punchers have a way about them. They know they can destroy the opponent.

i thought kameda beat mcdonald in the first fight, and I think kameda vs inoue would have been more competitive. if only because kameda would be the most durable fighter inoue has fought. inoue would certainly win, but at least it would be a 2 hitter quitter like mcdonald

He's right, all of them are worth watching.
Plant-Lee is probably the least worth watching out of the bunch, given it seems like it could be a mismatch, but at the same time Lee is an unknown quantity going into this fight given he's normally a Light Heavyweight. Dwyer gave a good rundown as to why an upset could happen in that bout.

Other than that all of them are good fights.
Nery-Payano is going to be fireworks no matter what. Both guys are gutsy, scrappy fighters, Nery being the obvious favorite but if you watched Payano-Warren you know that Payano will NOT back down even if you throw everything and the kitchen sink at him. You have to switch his off button like Inoue did to stop him from fighting back.
Lipinets-Molina is going to be an absolute WAR. Molina is obviously known for getting into nothing but wars, to the displeasure of his mental health, and Lipinets has also been known to be very scrappy.
Ugas-Figueroa is an even matchup between two top 10 WWs that are worth keeping an eye on. Ugas is entertaining for a Cuban, and Figueroa can be pretty destructive. Again, good fight to watch.
Thurman-Pacquiao sells itself.

Whyte-Rivas sells itself.
Allen-Price is fun just to crown the biggest big stiff Britbum, both guys have enough power that it's a guaranteed highlight KO bout.
Chisora-Szpilka is interesting, but ultimately doesn't matter who wins it. I personally think Szpilka is shot after the Wilder fight, so I think Chisora will take it. If Szpilka shows what he did during the Wilder fight it will be a good fight though.

Yeah pretty much. The hype for Inoue is unreal atm and unlike I’ve ever seen for an asian fighter barring pacquiao(GGG is not asian). Shame for Tomoki though was rooting for him.

Are those chest tats? Whore.

I think that's her bra strap.

Based for not taking whores who have too many tattoos, cringe for mistaking a bra strap for a tattoo.

>Whore
I wish there were subtitles for .
She's actually super pure.

Final ruling: Whore. Incels, white knights, and general wimps BTFO.

kamedas wife looks a little like rosa salazar

>Payano
youtube.com/watch?v=fqlzsWWBgFY

White boys are taking over the sport.
twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1150225397679841280

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Payano is very tricky and has a good chin, reckon the Nery fight will be alot closer than you reckon
Nery isn't on Inoues level and is chinny ontop of that, would be a massacre if they fought imo

Notice how I said;
>You have to switch his off button like Inoue did to stop him from fighting back.
Nery-Payano is going to be a great fight. It's not smart in terms of matchmaking in regards to the fact that Nery's performance will be compared to Inoue's, but I have the feeling Nery is the kind of guy who wants comparisons to be made.
He might be too over confident in thinking he can compare to Inoue's KO of Payano, that's not something you can will into existence, it requires a good combination of luck, power, and skill, all 3 of which were completely on Inoue's side to end that fight as quickly as he did..

Appreciate the breakdown. I'll make sure I watch as much as I can, then. Thanks, user. Much love.

No problemo.
Next week is IMO, the best weekend for Boxing we'll have all year, we're spoiled with two very good cards at two separate times on the same night.

Fuck the sky card, it's all BUMS. Don't let the Matchroom Mafia fool you

All these quality posts yet you neglect too mention the chaos that will unfold July 27th. Sell it user

Stevenson is talented but if you're going to give him a headline card make him fight someone with a pulse.

For me, it's the Bronze Bomber Deontay Wilder.

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I feel like Hooker-Ramirez sells itself if you've been paying attention to 140lb lately.
In case you haven't, it's two of the top 4 in the division going at it. One guy who is going to be constantly marching forward to do damage, and another guy who can kind of be described as "Hitman" Hearns-esque both in how he fights (Though Hooker's right hand isn't nearly as devastating) and in his weird physique and build.

I'm just excited as hell due to the fact that all four of the top 4 are currently in fights with eachother. Hooker-Ramirez was unexpected while Prograis-Taylor was expected. I hope the winner of both those fights face off with eachother.

Who left a shit stain on Amir's robe?

Shit forgot pic

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For me it's Naseem Hamed

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Inoue is a bum

go to bed nonito

You done fucked up, m8

that's his wife mate

Should Muslims be allowed to live past 30?

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based for being this hyperaware of tattoo whoredom

Wait, his wife is older than him by 3 years?

16-year-old Jap boy and 19-year-old Mexican girl?

Does ur mom like younger men kippers?

Did Naseem Hamed eat himself? Let's solve this.

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I always think amir khan is like 6 feet tall for some reason

What's in the box?

Enlightenment

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Ayy lmaos

I know what you mean, his frame makes it seem like he should be taller.

it's because he has a small ass head, makes him look like a shrunk tall guy

I hate guys who hit you clean in sparring and stop to make sure if you're alright, like what keep going the point is to hit each other

did jennings expose joyce?

>Hernandez and De La Hoya both ate shit
jfc Oscar must be pissed

he'll use it as marketing to "prove" his fights arent fixed

Based Ronny Rios
Now Oscar's gonna be back on coke and molesting Ryan cause he's his last hope

nigger if I hit you clean with my right I have to stop otherwise you're going unconscious. we don't play games in here.

If I die, I die, I live by the warriors code

Based and Princepilled

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in recent months

>Rocky Hernandez
>Diego DLH
>Angel Acosta
>Linares
>Machado
>Sadam Ali
>the Aussie who John Ryder beat
>one Falcao brother
>Rooster arm punching meme guy

have all lost

Munguia should have lost already and will get knocked out soon, Lemieux is fat and injured, Ryan Garcia will get exposed once they run out of starving Dominicans

it's only Canelo and Virgil Ortiz, unless I'm missing someone

Why are the super welterweight champions all taller than the middleweights wtf

Ryan Garcia got exposed hard against that journeyman aswell

based

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Scared to fight GGG when he was the champ

Frank Warren is a sly one, he knew Dubois would easily beat Gorman but knew the gypsyboos would talk him up as a threat

Tbh it wasnt that hard to predict. Just by looking at resumes, Dubois has the much better one. I don't know why some people were that much hyped about it.
The reality is that a lot of britbums get underseved hype just because they get some tv exposure against absolute cans and then suddenly they become "hot prospect", meanwhile Europe and a lot of Latin America is full of guys who are at the same level if not slightly better but don't get nearly the same attention because they are not backed by a powerful promoter and tv network.

They're avoiding the best Middleweight fighters.
Same reason why all the Super Middleweights (Except for Caleb) are taller and bigger than the Light Heavyweights, they don't want smoke from the likes of Bivol or Kovalev because all of them (except Caleb) are bums.

Canelo is literally their entire business. more top heavy than Matchroom.

Okay, where is the WBSS Finals dates, though?

They still have Rey Vargas who is legit and Cancio/Joseph Diaz who arent great but are still very marketable fighters

Redpill: All these super and light divisions are full of bums (excluding LHW) hoping to nick an alphabet title cuz they're too scared to test themselves in real divisions

I'll take Vargas over Rigondeaux.

GADOOSH!

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Its the lost property box for all the sandals left in mosques over the years.

Counterpill. Benavidez vs Smith is a barn burner

Counter-counterpill. Benavidez and Smith would both get beat by Bivol.

i don't think anyone does racism with less style than you brits. is that literally the best you can do? muslims must laugh their asses off when you try to banter with them

Not so sure though, Bivol has one of the best 1-2 and distance control but he has zero inside game. If Benavidez is close the distance Bivol is in great trouble

9/10 redheads have thicc asses. Anyone else noticed?

Why?

Counter-counter-counterpill. Bivol gets schooled by are Caleb

Had to delete the post, posted the wrong pic and not trying to get banned over a bare ass lol

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I wish I were into natural redheads...

Plenty of American fighters like this too. People are suckers for hype.

T. Muzzer

REAL redpill. Foreman was ALWAYS a technician even when he was younger and supposedly a bully or monster or whatever

Bivol schools everyone at 168 and 175. Only Gvozdyk

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Only casuals think he was a hard punching bully with no techniques

Another reason manlet floyd ducked him. That and his blistering handspeed

how else did he manage to land his slow punches? if he wasn't a technician he would have never laid his hands on anyone. he was trained originally against his desires to be a heavy puncher and it wasn't until he saw someone get robbed by judges that he understood why he was being trained to be that way.

state of the crowd

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Not that terrible for a Frank Warren show

It was a good attendance for a British title fight but it's still sad that Matchroom's success isn't rubbing off that well on the whole sport

>Mexican Rocky upsets Dana White's boxing superstar

Eddie Hearn btfo

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Seconded.

is this the new james bond?

would unironically prefer him to the black dyke they're actually going to hire

Should have seen how bad the crowd was for vargas-kameda

twitter.com/Canelo/status/1150466829917315073?s=19
what did he mean by this?

asian''d

take that whyte bois

He had great distance manipulation with his hands and arm movement and blocked a lot of punches, the way the were always in front of him pushing off the opponent he could dodge punches coming through his guard by just backing up

>distance manipulation

Canelo is a BUM

BBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMBBBBBBBBBBZZZZZZZZQQQQQQUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDD

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>wake up Mike

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Wake up Anthony

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i am not the man to beat daniel dubois

I think you have a good shot bro

wut

>A movie insider said: "There is a pivotal scene at the start of the film where M says 'Come in 007', and in walks Lashana who is black, beautiful and a woman. It's a popcorn-dropping moment. Bond is still Bond but he's been replaced as 007 by this stunning woman."

??????????

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Zab Judah is our guy

'no'

Holy fucking based. Bond has gotten BLACKED

Method Man is 48 years old, what's your excuse?

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Not enough money to have the time to hit the gym consistently enough or to hire personal trainers.
I wish that i'll be like Bernard Hopkins and being in world class athletic shape well into my 50s.

Them shoulders suggest a little chemical help

youtube.com/watch?v=5nVh_HLGI-k

omg... rip bond

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they couldnt have gotten a hottie like zoe saldana?

just realized this bum is related to the cocaine addict mexiCAN in plant's division

Too busy in the MCU?

Who should /ourguy/ Dubois fight next? I don't want Warren to rush him too quickly. I think Joyce will try and get a world title shot soon, so Dubois can stay at British level and maybe go for a European title next. Maybe Hughie Fury or Tom Schwartz? The winner of Dave Allen and David Price would make sense too but they are with different promoters

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>y-you have to have a belt first, I won't fight you, you can't make me
why do Brits fear americans?

>Joyce will try and get a world title shot soon
Seriously though, if you're a promoter where would you take joyce to next? he's got no route to a title shot especially since all the belts are with pbc now, he can't take anyone in the top 10 without a high chance of losing and you can't keep fighting cans hoping he will improve because he's 33.

As a new fan is it best to just concentrate on one fight and follow the story and get excited, picking up other stuff along the way for now? Specifically thinking of the Ruiz/Joshua rematch.

Or should I try to absorb as much as possible; a wider breadth with less depth? Then hone in and learn more? For example just reading The Ring cover to cover.

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just browse /box/ a couple of months and you'll have a decent understanding

As much as we'd all love you to enjoy some of the non-marquee divisions, I think you'd be better off staying with the big fights for now. I'd say wait around for the big fights and grow into it organically but there arent that many coming up. Not for a while atleast.

That being said if you just want to watch great fights, go all out. Personally, I recommend Tj doheny vs daniel roman at 122,

Not sure desu, maybe get him in with Wilder if he beats Fury in the rematch? Does he have a clear path to becoming a mandatory, maybe he can do that.

follow fights, not fighters would be my advice
there can be guys who are absolute hot shit that spend their careers fighting once a year against no-name mandatories who get crushed inside 4

I recommend following Luis Nery. He's this generals god and possibly the greatest boxer of our generation.

I'm sorry but it looks like you misspelled terence crawford there buddy

>follow fights, not fighters would be my advice
Its pretty hard for new fan to do this because of how decentralized boxing is. Pick what you like and go deeper is my advice for new box fans

my casual guide to getting into boxing:
go on youtube
Start with Ali era. Watch his fights with Liston, Fraizer, Norton. Watch Foreman's fights with the two latter. Then watch Foreman/Ali, then if you're really interested in the era watch Ali/Spinks 1 and 2 and Ali/Holmes. Holmes Cooney is a good stopping place for now.
Then watch the "fabulous four" fights with each other (Sugar Ray Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Duran).
Then watch 90s heavyweight era; start with Holmes. Lennox Lewis, Riddick Bowe, Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, Michael Moorer. Especially watch fights where the aforementioned box each other. End with Lewis vs. Vitali
Money May era now. Watch his fights against Gatti, Castillo, Maidana, Canelo.
Now you are free to go back to any era and watch fighters who are talked about here. Look into Jack Dempsey, Sugar Ray Robinson, Floyd Patterson, pretty much any atg that's talked about here. Go on Boxrec and filter their lb for lb list by all time and whatever weight division you are curious about and read about the fighters.
You can now post on /box/ and sound like you know what you are talking about.

>90s era start with Holmes
start with Holmes v Tyson*

>maybe get him in with Wilder if he beats Fury in the rematch
Yeah but if that's the case and say ruiz does beat joshua again, then pbc is going to put on its tournament essentially. He's fucked himself going to frank warren.

Why do people think the pbc even wants an undisputed champion? Or even a 3 belt champion? What is the biggest unification they've put on that didn't involve floyd?

Floyd never fought for PBC

Garcia/Thurman
Jack/Degale
Lara/Hurd
A few that come to mind

Less than a week untill the Thurman/Pacquiao fight.... Keith is starting to feel discomfort in his hand once again

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She's perfect lads

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A fox ppv between wilder and ruiz would be massive, bigger than any wilder joshua, wilder fury, fury joshua fight. Undisputed heavyweights are different than other division because they carry more prestige( part of mike tyson's fame is becoming undisputed so young). There's nowhere left after heavyweight, do you seriously think they would just sit onto having the only 2 champions and not make an in house mega fight?

you are completely delusional

No he's not, you don't understand the American PPV market.
Mexican Heavyweight vs America Heavyweight > American Heavyweight vs British Heavyweight (Who despite being a world champion draws pitifully in America).

G String is the B Side

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Viva la Mexico

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Saw my local movie theater is showing Thurman pac. Has /box/ seen any fights on the big screen?

>Wake up Wilder

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I thought about going for Canelo/Jacobs because I went to see Avengers that afternoon and saw that they were showing the fight in the theater. But I had already gotten my DAZN subscription

cant believe helenius lost, bros

Give me a good bantamweight fight to watch

Rafa Marquez vs Silence Mabuza

>promoting bodybuilding on /box/

>watching manletweight

>Should Muslims be allowed to live?

ftfy

How satisfied or happy were Brits to see Joshua get bodied by a fat beaner?

Did you feel a vicarious thrill from it because of how heavily hyped he is and because he's a racist African getting put in his place?

Or is there brits here that legit view him as one of your own and you were actually disappointed?

Legit curious about this

I saw both Wilder fury and Spence garcia at the theater. Unironically the best viewing experience outside of sitting ring side our with a great group of friends at a watch party.

there's a reason why canelo is the biggest boxing star. mexican and CHI fanbases are the most lucrative fanbases in boxing.

Whats hard to believe about that?

Also make a pick /box/, would you rather fight Shavers, Marciano, or Wilder

Artem Lobov

Oh and to add to this if you pick rocky it's scheduled for 15 with 6oz horsehair gloves

Shavers because he does tire quick even at his best. Rocky and Wilder both have great gas tanks

Shavers because you could just box around him. He's a heavy hitting bum.

Reminder that shavers went 15 with Ali and won the fight though robbed of the decision

Ali was shaking with onset parkinsons before he entered the ring, and still outboxed the bum. Shavers could of gone for the knockout when he stunned Ali, but had such a low boxiq that he gave up the whole match.

Laying on the ropes eating shots is not "outboxing" someone. Not going for the KO when you have Ali stunned is high IQ see Foreman v Ali, Ali cannot be chinned. And finally trying to box after you've already been beaten retarded is not an excuse for losing. Shavers handled Ali like he was a child

>see Foreman v Ali
That was when Ali still had the hand-speed to deflect a lot of the damage off the ropes. Against Shavers, he was a much different fighter. He lost most of his hand speed and a considerable portion of his stamina to dance, and you can see it in just his change of fighting style. Shavers was afraid of the rope-a-dope and was duped by the 4d chess, nearly knocked out in the final round. If he just fought confidently, he would have won decisively with a knockout. Instead he tried to reserve his stamina and ate flurries which lost him rounds.
If you think Shavers was robbed of the decision, you didn't watch the fight. Hurting the other guy isn't what determines the win.

The level of cope and revisionism present in this post is truly staggering.

Ah, you so don't know what you are talking about. Great conversation.

The Brits were on suicide watch. The prince who married the qt black American called him a heartlet. Really, he didn't, but they took a pic together and I like to think he did

>dopes still being roped half a century later

Rey Vargas is one goofy looking motherfucker. Wonder if he gets any sweet Mexican pussy

Just follow a specific division with an eye on your home country. That's what I do with Heavyweights with an eye on British boxers across a few weight classes. After a while try and watch lesser weight classes and see who you like.

>Boxrec is good for getting pointers and then YouTube has clips of everyone.

Oh, and watch the DAZN/Matchroom card next week if you want to follow the Non-Fury Brit side of Boxing.

Very.
'Ate Hearn
'Ate Negros
'Ate Dossers

This Saturday is gonna be /kino/
Is Plant colliding with Thurman-Pac?

Dubois sleeps wilder

No, they are on the same card.

Yeah that Fox prelims card is supposed to start around 6pm ET and switches to ppv around 8 I think

Free A$AP

That soft nigga is complaining about our prison cells. But everybody here agree's he should be released and put the fucking afghans who harrassed him in there.

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delet

Is Pernell really dead lads?

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Ali was a bum.
>muh roap a doap

Wow you're shot to hell at 30 years old and can't move around anymore

Rip

his son apparently posted on FB yeah.

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>But everybody here agree's he should be released and put the fucking afghans who harrassed him in there.
Is that why Sweden was so eager to lock him up? Because he upset the middle-eastern immigrants who were starting shit with him?
I'm not surprised.

Fuck. Gone at only 55. Didn't expect to wake up to that news.

Wtf??
Reason of his death?

JCC won the war

well he was a major dope fiend like a lot of that generation

boxrec.com/en/boxer/5625

>boxing since before i was born
>still undefeated

GOAT

Whitaker was boring af and also a bum

Cringw

kys.

He should stay there

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Can't wait for Lopez to dab on Lomachenkos grave lads.

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Reminder that Deontay Wilder knocked out Tyson Fury.

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Hit by a car.

Prime Margarito would waste the clown

I wonder if nigerians consider him white like americans consider someone 1/4 black to be black

So much for being a defensive wizard.

Why do you say this, if you read this thread and werent a shit stirrer you would know most brits who post here are either indifferent to AJ or don't like him.

t. messy can

Kek

Jesus

NOOOOOOO NOT SWEET PEA. F

too soon bro

based
BASED

Based

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pernell whitaker the type of guy to exclude his family out of his will

Fuck em. Let them make their own money.

Somebody post the webm of Sweat Pea murdering Hurtado

>Le best defensive fighter ever
>Cant even dodge a car

>implying he wanted to avoid it

Imagine getting knocked out by a shot to hell 30 year old.
Muhammad Ali in his prime was unbeatable. Even past his prime he knocked out a fellow top 10 ATG Heavyweight.

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Checked

Looks like a fucking University dorm room.

I've been doing sit-ups, push-ups and planks at home. I hope this will help me in my boxing career. I will start going for jogs and runs one day too.

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>situps
>planks
>jogs
worthless

will Riakpore v Billam-Smith be decent?

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The only thing that helps is eating plenty of Snickers.

>*Round bell sounds*
>Steve Buscemi fight an AJ lookalike and get kd'd
>Round over and his cornerman tells him "You're not you when you're hungry, eat a Snickers"
>Buscemu turns into Ruiz and knocks AJ out

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Well he was asking about the British public. Most still want to make out with him

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>hungry?

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you'd pay 500 a month for a play like this in london

what i would expect from plebs that lack compassion... please witness greatness and then show some respect

youtube.com/watch?v=HkC9OCd03eo

Any Matchroom shills here still trying to defend this week's bum card?

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I’m just here to pay respects to Pernell Whitaker. Reminder he was robbed against JCC

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Caption this

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>Wright told KO Digest in 2012: "The fight overseas with Simon, they called that a draw and then thirty minutes later they changed the decision so that was definitely not a loss. I fought him in South Africa, his home country and at first they said it was a draw. I left and went to my dressing room - took a shower, got dressed, and got ready to leave. They said come back to the ring because they changed the decision (from a draw to a loss). I said, you all must be crazy if you think I'm going back into that ring."

RIP

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RIP

full kit wankers

Fuck. Sweet Pea really died. One of my all time favs.

boxrec.com/media/index.php/Nobuhiro_Ishida
>Ishida joins Harry Simon as the only former world light middleweight champions to ascend to heavyweight division

F
youtube.com/watch?v=0ZsO3PgRbDY

RIP to one of the best to ever do it

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>Top Rank is in the process of finalizing a fall light heavyweight title unification bout between Oleksandr Gvozdyk and Artur Beterbiev on an ESPN platform

Didn't realize GGG was the only one to ko Ishida

wtf Charles Martin fought couple days ago and nobody told me

Are you talking about the Lebron James of boxing?

Only true boxing fans will talk about Prince Charles.
>"I just want to keep learning and become a complete fighter. I want to be able to dig to the body and fight on the inside and learn everything technical that I can. I want to be like the LeBron James of boxing, in that I'm a total student of the sport."

ABSOLUTELY STUPENDOUS

holy based

Rope a dope only works if you have good hand-speed and head movement to avoid most of the damage, and let the ropes dissipate a lot of the body shots. And if the opponent literally has not heard of rope-a-dope before. There's a reason Ali never had a rematch with Foreman.
So really it was only effective in that one fight. You can't blame Foreman either. Up until that point he had demolished every other contender. It must have been a trip to hit this guy with everything you have for rounds and rounds on end and yet the guy isn't even pockmarked..

a lot of bummy heavyweights fought at the weekend, Fox was hyping Gerald Washington after knocking out Helenius

When were some times a fighter completely lost his punch resistance after a fight?

Pretty based desu

fuck janny

Thank you...... Bob Arum?!?

Groves completely lost it in the Smith fight

Meldrick Taylor. Actually he lost his soul after the JCC fight.

His chin hasn't been the same since he got brutally KOed by Froch.

Great, winner should get Sven

>lines up the last punch
>doesn't take it, saving George from more potential injury
quite the gentleman here

I posted right before he fought doofus

RIP Sweet Pea

Did he walk this earth like a god that night?

Yessir

This is when Tank will be ready

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guess which one of these judges also scored Fury-Wilder 115-111 to Wilder

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...

max kellerman on absolute suicide watch

Pouting like Kugan

topkek

Lads could dubois whyte or joyce become world title holders? which britbum do you think has the most potential

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Based Rochin didn't let Fury rob completely rob Wilder.

David 'The Lad' Allen

David 'The Lad' Allen

this reminds me that Joyce leaving PBC was a pretty stupid move, he could have got a title shot at Wilder or Ruiz pretty soon

checked, for me it's pricey

>Wilder v Ortiz moved from September to November

im such a cuck but i still believe in pricey. he has the size and the technique just needs to fucking sort his dogshit cardio out and not be walking dead by round 4

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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About fucking time. Idk what they've been waiting for. Beterbiev ices him in 7

my heart would be in shambles if dave allen loses to price, shame that he fancies povetkin next, could go for someone shittier I don't think he's that shot

Allen is literally 2 wins away from a fight with AJ. Once he batters Price and kos some Chisora-type hes the rebound for Johnson after another loss to Ruiz

Does Luke Campbell have a chance against Lomachenko? I think I might bet on Loma.

Does /box/ flossy bop?
m.youtube.com/watch?v=dW8sMrEVSDg

no chance

Why would you think he has a chance

Is Kugan white?

I think he's capable of putting in a performance like Pedraza's, which is considered a moral defeat for Lomachenko

AJ will probably retire if Ruiz stops him again. He's already admitted he doesn't want tough fights and that he didn't want to fight in his mid 30's. Tune up then cashout fight against whyte.

He got the fight against Loma, I guess it's not by pure luck.

Based big brain shitting on blind shithouse judging

>badlefthook.com/2019/7/15/20694909/mike-tyson-questions-whether-anthony-joshua-has-his-mind-right-for-andy-ruiz-rematch


>“He ain’t gonna win it back if his mind’s f***ed up. His mind’s gotta be right, he’s gotta dedicate his life to doing this. He’s gotta stay away from himself.”
>“Are you gonna lay down now? And say, ‘Hey, I don’t want any more’. Do you stay down and give it up? Or do you believe in it? You got any f***ing pride, n*gga? What do you believe in? Do you believe in your ancestors? Your mother, your father, your kids? What do you believe in?

>“What have you got to fight for? And then it’s up to him, I don’t believe in s*** maybe. I’ve got money. I don’t believe in any of this s***. And that’s cool too, if it’s not who you are,” he concluded.

JOSHUA CONFIRMED SOFT AS BABY SHIT

How come D'amato's fighters were so /weakmind/? Floyd Patterson and Tyson were both mentally soft

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he molested them

John Mugabi

I thought Tyson hated the n word? I've seen him use it twice in the last few weeks now. First when teaching that heavyweight some tricks and now this

Lol that midget bum is getting the Adonis treatment. There's a reason shittybiev has only fought top cans and avoided EVERYONE in the division

You can't be so much agressive like Tyson without having something wrong in your mind.

Dubois looks promising

all that rap music is a bad influence on him

>tfw Tony Yoka is a fucking bum

I can't wait the day he's gonna get KTFO by anyone who isn't a russian taxi driver

havnt seen him fight as a pro, what makes him a bum, what is he shit at that a top fighter will expose?

>“... In the dressing room I had a headache. Liston didn’t hurt me physically—a few days later I only felt a twitching nerve in my teeth—it was nothing like some fights I’ve had: like that Dick Wagner fight in ’53 when he beat my body so bad I was urinating blood for days. After the Liston fight, I just went into the bathroom, shut the door behind me, and looked at myself in the mirror. I just looked at myself, and asked, ‘What happened?’, and then they started pounding on the door, and saying, ‘Com’on out, Floyd, com’on out; the press is here, Cus is here, com’on out, Floyd….’

>“... And so I went out, and they asked questions, but what can you say? What you’re thinking about is all those months of training, all the conditioning, all the depriving; and you think, ‘I didn’t have to run that extra mile, didn’t have to spar that day, I could have stayed up that night in camp and watched The Late Show…. I could have fought this fight tonight in no condition….’”

Highly recommend every boxing fan read this article
>classic.esquire.com/article/1964/3/1/the-loser

Patterson is the thinking man's heavyweight
this

youtu.be/EgyZReQo86c?t=51

Keith Thurman. GOAT.
That is all.

>D’Amato, who took over training Patterson when the fighter was seventeen or eighteen years old and exerted a tremendous influence over his psyche, is a strange but fascinating man of fifty-six who is addicted to Spartanism and self-denial and is possessed by suspicion and fear: he avoids subways because he fears someone might push him onto the tracks; never has married; never reveals his home address.

>“I must keep my enemies confused,” D’Amato once explained. “When they are confused, then I can do a job for my fighters. What I do not want in life, however, is a sense of security; the moment a person knows security, his senses are dulled—and he begins to die. I also do not want many pleasures in life; I believe the more pleasures you get out of living, the more fear you have of dying.”

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based Patterson good read

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He's losing by SD. Screencap this

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FIVE

Over FIVE months have passed since the FLOP robbed AB.

Nearly FIVE months since AB started the FLATTENING

In FIVE days, One Time will finish what AB started and finally FLATTEN THE FILIPINO FLOP

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BASED

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ABSOLUTELY BASED

ANONYMOUS BROTHER

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RIP box

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Just so everyone knows this guy isn't the Ruiz nightmare poster, I am lol. And the Miller poster was someone else

How can you hate AB when he's the most redpilled boxer alive?

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lmao imagine if he heems khan. its not impossible id give him a chance

he can probably outbox broner at this point. but manny would cream him

>he can probably outbox broner
Yikes

Fuck yes

irishmirror.ie/sport/other-sport/boxing/artem-lobov-set-go-face-18297034

what in the absolute fuck is this. what the FUCK is happening to our sport

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How exactly was Patterson weak minded? He was a LHW fighting at HW and he did very very well

Racist post

I like these circus fights personally I don't see it any different than price vs Allen this weekend

price v allen will be a defining moment in this era of heavyweights

It's not even been made, the heemlet is just calling out whatever busted boxer appears in the news.

I really doubt Khan would even stoop that low considering he still has the kell brook fight and can fight in saudi arabia

if you think about it, loma unironically lost the story of the fight several times already

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he won that fight

Chavez won the war

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That's de la hoya buddy

you really looked up his daughter to find a picture of him

It's not "our" sport, /knuck/ is trying to capture our dropouts just like MMA was doing a decade ago to boost their popularity.

That Mayweather channel video and sweat pea dying is the most random shit man what the fuck
Does this mean one of the fighters has to die every time they make a prediction video? They must have made that video before they knew he died right?

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Reddit: Dave Allen
Yea Forums: Our Pricey

Simple as.

Prime Sweet Pea would've dodged that car.

Shit, sorry didn't even look at the webm. Just been seeing everyone online being up. The Chavez fight

whats wrong with Crawford?

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Think you could beat a prime Slim Shady trained by Manny Steward?

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De La Hoya said that he supposedly had a really hard punch.

agreed. Butterbiev is a bum who looks like absolute shit in every fight until he lands a bomb.

>boxingscene.com/sonny-conto-throw-first-pitch-716-phillies-dodgers-game--140865
Keep your eyes on Sonny Conto /box/, he could be huge

Proud to say I watched his first pro fight on a Facebook live stream, immediately bought stock in him as soon as I saw him

Did sparring at the Kronk gym contribute to his coma?

Yeah i heard about him from that one american champion amateur who signed to matchroom, Nkosi Solomon, and then immediately lost his pro debut. Apparently Solomon was a pretty good amateur but 2-3 fights before he went pro, he fought Conto and Conto ruined him in the ring.

Also keep your eyes on Nikita "White Chocolate" Ababiy, who returns to the ring on July 27

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nah this post is all completely and utterly wrong

The current generation and generation before that in British heavyweights have had it shit, the current generation because David Haye ruined box office for everyone with the toe incident, and David Haye’s generation themselves because they were all shit, minus David Haye really.

Tyson Fury built his own hype, he was boxing absolute shithouses and struggling at times on shit tv channels.

Yeah ok Anthony Joshua has had hype but he literally won a gold medal in the Olympics in his home country, it was bound to happen.

But for you to say British HWs have been over hyped is utterly wrong. They’ve all built it for what it is today.

Imagine if he was the lead in Southpaw instead of Jake Gyllenhaal

I wouldn’t use that one area of the arena as a litmus test for attendees

It appears that was prob an area for sponsors and shit who couldn’t care about the fight, seeing as it’s a dead central middle area

Even football has a problem with sponsors being a cunt and taking the best seats and not turning up

fuck off nonce

Reminder not to respond to the tripfag pedophile above

I've had him filtered for a year, this is the first i've thought about him in months cuz of you bypassing the filter for him

reminder: andre ward is an edomite

Is tommy still winning?

Are ya winnin' son?

Wake up, Beyonce.

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Who the fuck is that

literally who

Get out of here with this shit

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Who?
Send Jones and Cormier over here so Wilder can beat them into a coma first, then send whoever this nobody is just as a joke.

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Already shook and your faves ain’t even on the floor yet

His power >>>

youtube.com/watch?v=wy4ee971eic

KEK

Man I love how Lobov and Kahn have a bunch of losses on their records and are still more popular and relevant than 99% of these undefeated can crushers.

Send us your best faggot, I wanna see the fat fuck Cormier put in a coma

BBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMBBBBBBBBBBZZZZZZZZQQQQQQUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDD

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Pacquiao is going to knock out Thurman.
Screencap this post.

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lmao

Nah, Rigo didn't really look that impressive against Ceja. Man, he's really starting to look 50.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMBZQUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD

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Boomers rise up!

Is Al Haymon going to rig the result this Saturday? Have Thurman box like shit to give Pacquiao an easy UD victory and title in order to call out Mayweather for a 2nd fight. Whatever happens, I expect some Haymon fuckery.

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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMBZQUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD

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>fought Franklin Manzanilla for a boring w
>his team felt he needs a real challenge instead of crushing cans for a padded record
>sees a japanese boxer
>eazy w and free belt lmao
>press conference issues
>japanese boxer starts talking fluent spanish
>oh shit
>speaks about mexican style and his love of mexico
>oh shit oh shit
>calls out rey's heritage and wanting to stand and slug it out
>kameda continues saying something about who has bigger balls
>fight night happen
>felt the power of kameda
>fuck that
>dodge and weave and counter towards victory
>majority of the crowd starts booing for his tactics
>blames the booing towards the japanese fans

lmao

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Sad sight when the mexicans in the crowd like the japanese mexican immigrant more than you, a natural born mexican. What was hilarious was that he called out Roman to unify and said when 2 mexicans get in the ring, you always get a war. We JUST had a fight with 2 mexicans which he shit up lmao

Still no word on Canelo's next opponent and September 16th weekend is 2 months away

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do you have a link of the press conference?

all this proves is that Mexican boxing fans are retards

She has such cute ears and nice skin.

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If he does fight its almost certain to be a can now. No time for the multi city press conferences or time to shoot major ads

Damn she's cute. How do I get me a qt liberal Latina?

Don't worry, they're just pulling a Mayweather.
>train for an opponent you are likely to get and know you are going to pick
>wait until the last minute to make the deal so you are in top shape for the fight
>your opponent can't possibly be because you purposefully made it so they can't get a full training camp
>the money is too good for the opponent to refuse so they take the fight even though they don't like the situation
>fight a guy who's compromised but get full credit for beating them as if you never intentionally played them
>no one ever comments on this
>pull this over and over again along with other bullshit conditions that weaken your opponent for every fight
>get called one of the best fighters ever

the guy is a very boring boxer, but pretty good. kameda was very entertaining to watch, but couldn't adapt to his clinching sooner and lost badly because of it.

SEETHING which one of your idols did he beat?

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I don't know how user I just dont
cells within cells

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I don't have idols, but Mayweather is Canelo's idol.
Which is why he acts more like Mayweather than he does a Mexican fighters of the past including De La Hoya.
Besides those are all facts, picking people's gloves, creating a catchweight for any fight he wants, picking opponents weeks after he's started training camp, etc.
He does it every fight, he makes sure his opponent is never at 100%, he uses the A-side advantage to try to win before he ever steps into the ring, he drops belts when he doesn't want to fight an opponent, etc.
Canelo is doing the same shit.

Reminder that Lil Saul is afraid of lions

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>wearing the same gloves as your opponent is unfair!!
>training gives you an unfair advantage!!

>picking people's gloves
mayweather fears the horsehair mexican glove

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m.youtube.com/watch?v=yI8ooZtPXLg

How did they get away with this

are there any heavyweights who still use horsehair?

Yes, why not wear their gloves instead, or you wear yours and they wear theirs which are perfectly legal? Because of his hands supposedly being hurt? So what, that's opponents fault and he should not be penalized for his physical shortcomings.
Can you imagine a fighter saying that because he has a problem with his knees his opponent has to wear the shoes he picks out as to slow or trouble their foot movement, bullshit right? Same thing.

Second one also a yes, how could you possibly think not reaching your physical peak, they have a routine and pattern they have built how much and when they need to train to reach that peak, or having to drain a lot of weight too quickly is not going to compromise your performance?
These are obvious, why do think he's asking for these things in the first place? Why go through the trouble and putting it into contract if it meant nothing?
You are delusional, everybody understands why he does these things, including Mayweather, but not you for some silly reason.

yes, they use everlast MX. cleto's are fairly snug and often too small for people with large hands (heavyweights) unless you have smaller hands.

oh wow their elite pro gloves are also horsehair

results.everlast.com/exercise/Horsehair?af=color:black

a lot of people wear those (wilder, fury, ruiz)

Bellew is a Savage for exposing Usyk this badly

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Not his fault his opponents arent in top shape all the time like him
see pic

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Khan claims both him and Pacquiao have signed to fight in Saudi Arabia on November 8th

not a shock. both are whores for money.

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I'm sure the payday will be great for both of them, that said Pac shouldn't gift Khan a match with him, he doesn't deserve it.

Canelo dropped the middleweight title because he is afraid of dem young hungry lions

>watches Lobov vs Paulie once

Doesn't that conflict with Pacquiao's congress duties? Thought he was only available for the middle months.

youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2ldar6PZg
>80 (eighty) minutes
what the

Khan also believes that the Floyd fight is still possible.

Guess who's the oldest in this pic

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Jimmy Lennon Jr I'd imagine.

>he doesn't watch hour-long+ Eddie kinos at x2 speed

Facts about Whitaker:

>Top 3 lightweight of all time
>Arguably the GOAT defensive fighter
>Made a prime Julio Cesar Chavez look absolutely foolish

Well he did KO vinny chase in 1 punch

>boxingscene.com/pernell-whitaker-compubox-looks-back--140896
>Gatti 4th ranked in most jabs landed in single fight (273 vs Tracy Patterson)
What went wrong with Gatti lads?

Go watch that fight it's pretty good. Even with all those jabs he couldn't get his head out of the way of big shots.

As if he actually does anything as a congressman. Way I hear it everyone with a brain votes against but because he literally hands out money in the streets all the poor folk vote for him.

That's how it should be. Fuck the rich, lift those who are at the bottom up first.

Yeah I like that fight. Gatti could be a technically sound boxer when he wanted to (except maybe of defence) or had the proper mindset, it's just that he's still the last person I would have thought would be on the list.
Fun fact that he used to be Sweat Pea's sparring partner

So Manny's gonna end up becoming president of the Philippines, right?

Doubt

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Need this guy to get iced by danny roman

Sounds pretty based to me, I'd vote for him if he gave me free money every time he was in town

When you think about it kind of makes sense, I'm gonna get drilled anyway thanks to my Italian reflexes might as well just throw big shots

I remember thinking he could've lost that Patterson fight

Quick /box/ I'm in trouble how do you wipe your ass with wraps on

That's what your corner is for

BASED

Such kissable legs

Isn't he a Duterte supporter?

boxingscene.com/pacquiao-vs-thurman-predictions-46-experts-give-their-takes--140893
>24 pick Pac
>19 pick Keith
>3 pick draw
How wrong are those who picked Pac?

I kinda see it like Bhop vs Kovalev a couple years ago. A ton of people picked Bhop and gave him a chance,partially because they underrated Kova but mostly because they all wanted the old legend to have one more great win at his age. I mean I literally rooted for broner last time but it's hard not to root for pacman now. This would be such a huge victory for him, possibly his greatest at welterweight.

When Pac does lose, all this hope will have been forgotten.

Boxing Kino
youtube.com/watch?v=HbTs3TLo414

>5'11''
>check the scale
>I dropped down to super-featherweight

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Honestly see him winning a comfortable decision. Thurman is extremely overrated

>manny beats thurman
>floyd comes out of retirement, fights broner in a tune up and obviously embarrasses him while making dumb money
>floyd vs manny 2
>floyd clowns manny again and makes $300M

best timeline

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>in negotiations Floyd's side gets a 1 mile square ring so he can run from Pac all night

It's a weird fight, Thurman looked washed in his last fight

If pac can actually beat thurman, he can definitely beat floyd at this point. Floyd hasn't fought a real opponent in 4 years. No stays sharp forever

NEW

And isn't a 40 years old Pac, 10 years past his prime, overrated by beating two living corpses like Matthysse and Broner?

Sorely underrated

Broner was robbed my guy

This dumbo prolly never watched thurman fight before his hiatus.

You mean back in 2015? Since then he's fought three close fights, last one is against fucking Josesito López

Don't act like the Lopez fight was even close and the Garcia fight wasn't close either. Thurman controlled that entire fight and only let it slip because he thought he had it in the bag. He gave garcia no openings for a counter.

Those fights against garcia and porter are good. I guarantee not even spence can stop them. They're much better wins than anything Spence or Crawford has at 147.

Spence broke down and stopped Brook, a better win than two sloppy as fuck fights against Garcia and Porter

Yeah and Brook literally has nothing but a porter at his worst, win on his record and Spence fought him after golovkin broke his fucking face. Kell Brook is just not the same caliber as porter and Garcia, look at his record. He fought only shitters after he won his title from porter. Porter and DSG have fought actual top 20 welterweights.

>wtf why's he giving to the poor??!!

broke ass niggas

Let me see your Pacquiao-Thurman PPV receipt big boi

Sugar Ray Leonard picked Keith.

newfag here. What does /box/ think of Manny Pacquiao?