Supposed GOAT

>supposed GOAT
>either needs a 2 times Euro + WC winner team or world's 3rd and 4th best players behind him to win CL

>b-but he does everything
Everything except win apparently.

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how does that contradict the opinion that he's the greatest player of all time? who do you feel are better choices?

Have you not seen a single Messi top goals comp on yt?

Fernando Torres unironically

He's scored more goals than the rest of the team combined in the last two CL's and the second most amount goals for Barcelona in the last two CLs comes from own goals, but sure, he's not the GOAT because he can't win the biggest club competition on the planet when he's the only player on the team who's scoring goals while his defense is letting in 4 goals in one game. If he wants to be the GOAT he has to play fullback as well as being the only person on the team who scores goals.

Me

Ah yes Messi scores a bagillion goals solely from his God tier goalscoring skills (which don't appear for Argentina for some reason) but when Ronaldo scores way more goals than the rest of the team it's because the system is built to feed him sure

>supposed GOAT
>doesn't even play in mickey mouse cup
>is a known rapist and tax cheat
>paid a moth to beat him up in a big final so that nobody could see him fail
>can only score against 9man andorra
>only real fan is an obsessed r*manian proxytard
>went to italy to statpad trophies in a farmers league
>but still couldn't outscore a 36 year old
>didn't even score a single free kick in serie a
>despite all his tap-ins and penals against san marino and SPAL farmers, he STILL can't outscore messchad
What went wrong for Penaldo?

Because Messi is the main source of creativity on the team as well as the main goalscorer while the Juventus gameplan is to launch crosses into the penalty box so Ronnie can score headers, retard. Is it Messis fault that Suarez has scored two goals in his last 20 CL games or is it because he's shit? The players on Barcelona are afraid to shoot and pass the ball to Messi even if they're in a better position to score than Messi is.

Messi has scored more goals than Ronnie in their club carrers and 40 more assists with over 100 fewer games played.

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he has literally nothing to prove. internationally he's at least on par with penaldo too.

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ah yes Messoy is the Russell Westbrook of football

>I don't rate individual skill on individual skill but on how good the players teammates are
Thank you for your insightful contribution to the discussion

>Apehoop
So penaldo fans truly are 3rd worlders

ugly fucker. I'm just glad Penaldo overtake him in International and UCL trophy

yeah it's always the same argument for the faggy penaldo fans, "he's ugly, he's a midget."

you sound like you don't play sports stay poor piece of shit

Daniel Alves about his duo with Messi: "if Messi goes two minutes without touching the ball, he disconnects himself from the game, so since he must be prepared to lead us through the match, I must connect him."

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And just like that, now we know why Messi is such a mess when he plays with the Argentine NT.

bullshit favela shit, he scores less with argentina because he keeps dropping back to help the midfield

>Because Messi is the main source of creativity on the team
Yes Messi can't even play a lil forward so Coutinho can play as 10 like he did in Liverpool while Ronaldo is capable of changing positions so all players are used to its full potential

>Messi has scored more goals than Ronnie in their club carrers and 40 more assists with over 100 fewer games played.
Yes, Messi has played in an unbalanced attacking system that boosts his goalscoring and assisting stats (see Tadic 2017/18 season and Tadic 2018/19 season)

>"I, a nobody, understand Messi's behavior in a match more than the guy who has been playing and directly interacting with Messi for the past 8 years".

This comment summarizes Yea Forums's arrogance and ignorance like no other.

A Greatest player of all time should be able to win at least one nt cup from the 9 tournaments he's played so far

Pele had Tostao, Rivelino, Jairzinho, Carlos Alberto, Garrincha, Zagallo, Djalma Santos, Vava... (team so good they reached the 62 final without him, and won it)

Maradona had Valdano, Burruchaga, Kempes, Ruggeri, Olarticoechea, Brown, Cuciuffo, Sensini...

Zidane had Thuram, Desailly, Vieira, Makelele, Djorkaeff. Henry, Deschamps, Ribery, Sagnol...

Cristiano Ronaldo had a team good enough to reach the final and win it without him.
Cruyff had a team good enough to reach the final without him.