KAWHI TO CLIPS

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*goats in ur path*

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5 firsts. Jesus fuck

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RUSSEL WESTBRICK BTFO

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>cloppers
what the fuck

>become frontrunners to win everything

>1 second later
back to the 8 seed

I'm a sad Kings fan and this league has been one horrible joke since 2010. LeBron started this and we all know it.

>Leringchase Free Agency in one image

Looks like the klutch sports collusion didn't work.

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>Kawhi thinks about going to LA
>Earthquake happens
>Kawhi set to sign with the Clippers
>An even larger earthquake happens

If he signs that contract, will LA fall into the ocean?

>uses fame to generate a million dollars for needy kids and joins a team with 3 people on the roster
truly a monster

>Paul George over LuhBron and Davis
Why?

He's just going to roam the NBA for the next 15 years handing perennial loser teams a ring before going on to the next one
Will be curious to see what happens when he gets to Sacramento, since the league itself has flat out said they'll never let them win

>Dabs on Lebrun

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Each of them will be the 30th pick.

Hopefully Kawhi graces the Timberwolves with a ring. Bless Kawhi.

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Maybe he doesn't want to be third wheel to LeDead and some random unibrow Uzbekstani.

And for a dude who has proven to be either absolute dogshit or injured when it matters
This is going to be Griffin/Paul all over again

>Paul George has been traded
>a bunch of picks that will be mid-late 1st rounders
>Russ will be traded next.

HAHAHA FUCK YOU OKC. THE CURSE OF THE SONICS CONTINUE

FUCK THE LAKERS AND FUCK TORONTO WHILE IM AT IT

> A FA choosing Minnesota

Good meme that

It started a whole wave of needless superteams that ruined parity once and for all. But I don't expect your zoomer brain to get that shit.

Legit question how is kawhi going to old manage? That bum George Paul can’t carry a team alone. He got bodied by Joe “No Hablo” Ingles and never recovered

THE SUPERTEAM LEAGUE

what it do baYBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

This season is wide open. Based Kawhi did the right thing. Now who dares to trade for Westbrook?

how does he do it?

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Honestly ever since he started making statements about Israel he’s been practically black balled. It’s sad really.

hoes mad

He D-E-N-N-I-S'd you

Lebron and AD are going to crush doc rivers again circa the heat crushing the celtics

CLIPPERS!!!

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Fuck it. Lakers could just grab Westbrook's bitch ass I guess.

BLOW IT UP

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>LA's big 3 are AD, 35 year old Lebron, and Jared Dudley

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

12 seed confirmed

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HAHAHAH LAKER SHITS

Probably build around Siakam and FVV

>yfw AD joins the clippers next season

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He is too old now and would still demand to be the number 1 guy even with kawhi and davis on the team.

>Lakers respond to Kawhi decision by signing Danny Green to a 2 year/ 30 million dollar contract

JUST

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all the Nba is just teams trading for super stars in small markets.
boring AF

you are delusional. The nba never had parity except in the 70s when the talent was split with the aba. The heatles themselves were a response to the celtics big 3 and the lakers

i hope people now realize that the Clippers have a literal dream team.

Jerry West - Need I say more?

Steve Ballmer - Deep pockets, super high passion, high IQ. This man doesn't lose. Especially to...

...an organization like the Lakers. Call a spade a spade. Steve Ballmer spent the last 3 decades competing at the highest level of corporation and tech. As for the Buss family? Are we really going to keep making excuses for them because Jeanie is so damn charismatic?

This is only the beginning. Clippers will win a championship within five years.

it was the soulful pick. it was downright moral.

Damn Russ lost his lover and boyfriend.

Fuck this.

>Wait
>Lakers, behind you!
>RKO, FROM OUTTA NOWHERE, BY THE CLIPPERS
>oh god, they are not done yet
>they see the Rapties trying to get up
>are they gonna do it?
>oh my, no dont-
>PUNT KICK ON THE RAPTORS
>CLIPPERS THROW RAPTORS OFF THE RING
>PINS THE LAKERS, HERE'S THE COVER, SHOULDERS DOWN
>ONE, TWO, THREE!!!!
>I CAN'T BELIEVE IT! ITS OVER! ITS FINALLY OVER!

HERE'S YOUR WINNER, AND THE NEWWWWWW 2019-20 NBA CHAMPIONS, THE LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS!!!!!

>the lakers
How? Shaq's free agency? The Pau Gasol trade? That's NOTHING compared to what we have today.

What a fucking faggot PG and Kawhi are, Kawhi didn't go all in on another ring and he didn't stay with Toronto. What a faggot.

You act like the front office even matters anymore
Lakers will continue to attract big name free agents because >muh lakeshow, >muh big market, >muh shoes
They could be owned and operated by a masturbating bear and still be title contenders
None of this matters anymore

OKC got 5 first round picks for George. Considering they won't be competing anytime soon and George is a time bomb it was a bargain.

Im litetally shaking. It wasnt supposed to happen bros

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so is he still /ourguy/

this was a prime example that it DOES matter.

twenty years ago the thought of any player choosing clips over lakers was a hilarious joke

Well at least theres this

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yep

Picks dont mean shit

PG and Kawhi are unironically better than Lebron, AD, and Kawhi. Lebron is showing his age and will get hurt again and AD can't carry shit. Reminder PG carried a team of roleplayers to the conference finals more than once only to lose close series to prime Lebron.

If you think anything about Clippers management factored into this decision at all, you're a delusional fucking moron

hibbert was legit

Has the NBA ever had this much parity? Absolutely based.

Gasol and bynum were both top 5 at their positions at the time and artest was still an elite defender. D fish was one of the most clutch players. The league has always been wildly imbalanced. The only difference with what lebron did was it was player lead instead of a gm fleecing another gm

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Darren Collison and Danny Granger were good back then too. George didn't really carry that team that hard honestly.

It's over.

Evil Bron #6 activated.

yeah I know...I miss those Pacers...

You don't get it
It's not about a lack of balance in talent
It's about the ability of half a dozen or so teams to hoard talent solely through market and brand recognition
You have a league where 75% of the teams don't matter
Not just "well they're shit this year"
75% of the teams will never matter
You might as well already start fitting Zion for his Lakers or Celtics jersey

right, so nothing has changed

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>rating bynum this high
Never respond to my future posts again. It's clear you were dropped on the head as a kid.

bynum fresh off of exposing da white was rated high as fuck you casual

lebron ending his career with the Heat confirmed

Most North American sports leagues have this problem. The smaller markets simply couldn't/can't afford to keep up with the more advanced infrastructure or higher payrolls of big-market franchises.

The NFL is the only exception because they're fucking rolling in advertising and broadcasting revenue, and they use a hard salary cap instead of the luxury tax bullshit.

not in the last like 25 years, this seasons gonna be good

We can all agree this was a complete snake move by PG13 and Kawhi? I guarantee if LeBron had done the same thing you would be hating on him

Idk about vanvleet but Siakem came into his own this year and he looks like a damn good player.

Raptors aren't as strong anymore but I still think they will be a playoff team next year

>playoff team in the East
real accomplishment

That's bullshit
Baseball definitely does, but the NFL and NHL do just fine
And don't fucking talk to be about infrastructure and payroll. That's not what any of this is about. These guys are taking less money to go to these superteams.
It's about muh shoes and muh brand and muh capitalism
And no one buys Hornets or Pelicans shoes

>Kawhi, PG, Beverly
how do you score on this?

Making the playoffs in the East will be easy. The conference is just top stacked so making it to the Finals is harder.

If it's any compromise, you will forever be the good guys now
You somehow snuck through and won a title the right way, through good drafting and development and one ballsy ass trade
Unfortunately you're still not allowed to hang out with the cool kids because Canada isn't sexy enough to sell shoes

How is Kawhi a snake? He's a free agent, he's from LA, and he went to LA's second rate team to compete directly against Lebron. This might be the most based free agency signing in the history of the league

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Wait for PG and Bev to get injured then pick on the backups

Phoenix lel

Kansas City and St Louis have won titles int he last decade in MLB and NHL ya moron

little meme teams can win stuff on occasino, its just harder when they dont have MUH CLIMATE to fall back on

hell Toronto just won a title like a month ago

Consolation not compromise fuck me I'm drunk

I should've known lakers wouldn't get kawhi. Even though on paper kawhi with the lakers makes a good big 3 i feel like kawhi and bron/ad wouldn't mesh with them off court. Lebron has personal handshakes with every teammate while kawhi doesn't even shake hands.

LeBron was hinting we weren't getting kawhi when he wore this "Lebronland" hat tonight.

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>westbrook and booker take turns chucking the ball over and over

ew

I don't know, it's definitely a reality that the largest markets have a real advantage in superstar free agency, but Portland, Utah, Denver and Milwaukee are all going to have really good teams next year. If things bounce the right way, any one of those teams could make the conference finals or even the finals.

Clippers = Walder Frey

Raptors = Robb Stark

Lakers = Catelyn Stark

That's fine honestly. Feel like as long as Masai Ujiri is here, we'll never actually be bad and if we can keep being a playoff team then good players will come in the future

LAKERS MGMT / Team Kawhi fought with him to humble down and let kawhi be #1 and he said no. plain and simple.

Let's go.

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I'll give you the Royals, but the Cardinals have legacy to fall back on, and the Blues winning the cup was just about the unlikeliest thing to ever happen in sports.

All of those teams have world-class front offices that mine the draft, trade market, and low-tier free agents for talent. They're talented teams, yes, but not superstar destinations.

>Lebronland
>his Lakers are literally the worst team in California

Is it too late to cancel Space Jam 2 and re-cast Kawhi as the silent protagonist?

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>then good players will come in the future

That's the fallacy in your thinking, and the whole point of this thread
Big name free agents won't ever go to Toronto, or Portland, or Utah, or any place like that, no matter how good you are

>finals MVP
>2 6th man candidates
>MVP/defensive player of the year candidate

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Nah we're on the rise, it only gets better from here for the raptors

It really was all over last year when the lelkers didn't sign PG. Based Rob Parker was right all along.

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Right. The most important asset you can have is a good front office and good ownership group. If you have a great market and a bad ownership group and front office, you're the Knicks.

Big market teams definitely have an advantage in the NBA but it's a relatively small one and there are lots of other avenues to being a competitive team.

But they can still win titles.

Kawhi and George

Vs

100% Bron and Davis

Place your bets.

something tells me PG really hates the lakers for some reason

It wouldn't be bad if he had signed with the clippers on the first or even second day of free agency instead of fucking the other two teams over by making them wait

Get some Timmies and sober up m8

Celtic fan here
BEST

DAY
EVER
!!!!!!!

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

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Did the 76ers just win the NBA Championship for 2019-2020 season?

Exactly. The latest CBA makes it damn near impossible to buy a superteam like the Heat pulled off.

No they cannot
Toronto needed a literal act of god

It's literally the process that you're supposed to follow. He literally was the only guy following the rules.

Kawhi and PG don't really fit together that well. Neither is a good passer and they both like to iso

KAWHI!

COME BACK!!

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basketball is more dependent on an individual star far more than any other league what do you expect with the amount of money on the line?

Chris Broussard said all week he's 95% that the LAKERS are signing Kawhi hahahaha

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What are you talking about? The only reason the Lakers, Clippers, and Nets didn't do just that was because there wasn't enough talent to go around for the 3 of them

Kawhi has only been iso heavy with the Raptors. He played off the ball pretty well on the Spurs. Doc Rivers is unironically a good coach so it'll be interesting to see how it works out.

soooooo many dumbass "talking heads" are eating shit right now it's fucking beautiful

the pair with actual squad depth behind them

You lost out too, leaf. Enjoy Kyle Lowry + Marc Gasol lmao. Maybe you'll get the 6th seed.

At no point did I say I was surprised
But it's also fucking ruining the league

...

I've been slightly drunk for weeks, I'm gonna keep it going

They're like weathermen at this point
No one even pays attention to whether or not they were right
Spew shit just to get views and clicks

Just because we're the world champions doesn't mean I forgot our place, WE THE FOURTH

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Is Kawhi still gonna be good at 31 years old?

St Louis loves baseball and isn't a small market relative to the attention it gets. it's a top 6 franchise. where is kc now? you can pop in for a couple years and be relevant but unless you have astounding management you cannot sustain being good in baseball.

meanwhile the yankees, dodgers, red sox, giants(not now), cubs, and yes cardinals are usually all there in contention. baseball playoffs are really luck intensive don't read much into one year things

Kawhi got 4 years left (32)

Kawhi is the smartest player in the league. He fooled everyone and know one, absolutely no one knew about the Paul George deal. They have the best perimeter defense now and by a landslide. APOLOGIZE RIGHT NO

this would be so good

> We can all agree this was a complete snake move by PG13 and Kawhi? I guarantee if LeBron had done the same thing you would be hating on him

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>Kawhi and George
>vs
>35 year old Lebron and Davis

fixed that for you Lebron

What happens tomorrow on the show? Does shannon finally kill SKEEEUP after he relentlessly teases him for the kawhi blueball?

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I was hoping he'd be lakers bound but this is objectively a better choice, we avoid a superteam situation again and the rapties lose their guy. Happy to see the balance we've got now, the nba really got shook up this offseason for the better.

>Multiple Sources

It was disgusting how the media was trying to force Kawhi to the Lakers.

Chris carter, chris broussard, and rdafagbition btfo
Woj remains king

Kawhi is a hipster millennial faggot. Times change. Next stop minnesota

Rent free
Kiss the ring

>playoffs come
>clippers are 1st seed, lakers are 8th
>Bron goes complete apeshit in the first round
>lakers in 6

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One team had actual depth and he'd be the main star

No, kid.

>Bron goes complete apeshit in the first round
>with kawhi on the other team

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Because nobody wants to play with Lebron how don't people realize already.

3-6

Baseball has had the most parity in the last 2 decades. So shut your whore mouth, It's a basketball problem.

they've got like the same depth as Lakers now, and while Clippers have excellent perimeter defense, the Lakers (also defensively solid and with plenty of shooters) are going to deepdick them in the paint. Lakers would definitely have been the better choice for Kawhi in terms of team success

"I PERSONALLY GUARANTEE THAT THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS WILL WIN AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP BEFORE THE SELF-TITLED “Board Man” WINS ONE"

You can take it to the bank.

>Baseball has had the most parity in the last 2 decades

That's just because once the playoffs start its literally luck-based
The same half dozen teams still buy up all the good players

the lakers don't have lou will, shamet, and possibly harrell off the bench. The clippers essentially traded SGA and Gallo for Kawhi and pg13. The lakers barely even have a starting lineup.

Seven different teams have won the finals this decade you moron. Parity is fine.

To back this up, the Yankees and Dodgers are two of the biggest spenders in Baseball, Dodgers having used over 2 billion dollars in the last decade in their pursuit for a world series.

They've made 1 WS appearance since 1989, and have lost multiple times in the first round. Sure they're a GOOD team, in a trash division, but over that course of time a lesser team (still a top market) in the Giants won the world series multiple times. This wasn't done with even a top 5 payroll which the giants during their runs didn't even have.

>1. 2018 WS: Red Sox #1 payroll in baseball
2. 2017 WS: Astros #18 payroll in baseball
>3. 2016 WS: Cubs #14 payroll in baseball
4. 2015 WS: Kansas City: #16 payroll in baseball
>5. 2014 WS: Giants: #7 Payroll in baseball
(other team in WS was Kansas City who was #19 in payroll)
6. 2013 WS: Red Sox: #4 Payroll in baseball
>7. 2012 WS: Giants #8 Payroll in Baseball
8. 2011 WS: Cardinals #11 Payroll in baseball
>9. 2010 WS: Giants #10 Payroll in baseball
10. 2009 WS: Yankees #1 Payroll in baseball
>11. 2008 WS: Phillies #12 Payroll in baseball
12. 2007 WS: Red Sox #1 Payroll in baseball
>13. 2006 WS: Cardinals #11 Payroll in baseball
14. 2005 WS: White Sox #13 Payroll in baseball
>15. 2004 WS: Red Sox #2 Payroll in baseball
16. 2003 WS: Miami Marlins #25 payroll in baseball
>17. 2002 WS: Angels #15 Payroll in baseball
18. 2001 WS: Diamondbacks #8 Payroll in baseball
>19. 2000 WS: Yankees #1 Payroll in baseball
20. 1999 WS: Yankees #1 Payroll in baseball

It isn't literally luck based in Playoffs you NBA fans are fucking retarded. There isn't a sport in NA that relies on it's farm system anywhere near as much as the MLB. Minor league teams can make it big off of their farm system. Bigger market teams can stay competitive for longer than small markets with the ability to purchase big free agents and to funnel more $$ into their farm systems like the Yankees, Dodgers, and Red Sox, but only the Red Sox really succeeded.

Based as fuck

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>lost multiple times in the first round

How do you not understand the playoffs are pure luck?
You might as well pick a name out of a hat
Especially with the Yankees given they share a division with the Red Sox and MLB has that fucked 1-game playoff after 162-game season for non-division winners

Look at who does and doesn't make the playoffs every year and then tell me there's parity

Butthurt Lelkers fan. A generation grows up seeing you guys suck.

Looking over the course of two decades nearly every team has had multiple chances to go to the playoffs. Even teams like the Marlins who won a world series despite ownership every year for the last decade personally trying to make it the worst team in baseball without investing any money. The royals have won one, the Astros have won one. Of course you'll dismiss this with luck despite the fact the 10 teams in Baseball Playoffs have every right to be there over a 162 game season. The Wildcard game isn't fucked either, if you want more than 1 playoff game maybe your team should've won their division. Even then the only "Small" market team fucked over by wildcards in the last decade would be Pittsburgh which was incompetently ran and had many more issues.

Basketball is the ONLY American sport where you can literally pick who is going to be in the NBA Finals and just about every other fan will have picked right because the small number of people on a roster, means a superstar has a bigger individual impact. The fact NBA rosters are now being decided by the superstar players and not the ownership is why the league will not have any sort of parity.

Teams like the Yankees, Red Sox, and Dodgers who not only have the biggest payrolls but clout to the name of the franchise buying up all the good free agents (Which isn't always true IE: Trout on the Angels) in the grand scheme of things don't fucking matter. It might give them a better edge to win the world series, but you've also got teams in big markets like the NY Mets not winning a damn fucking thing. You can go "Well they're not really in a big market", "overshadowed by the Yankees", and "they've got a cheapskate owner so same as small market" but that really, honestly, isn't true.

Keep on saying a playoff with 7 and 5 game series are all luck based but the players are playing those games, the pitchers are pitching, and the hitters are hitting. Kansas City didn't win a world series by "Luck", but skill.

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>Even teams like the Marlins who won a world series despite ownership every year for the last decade personally trying to make it the worst team in baseball without investing any money.

How the hell is this not proof your sport is luck?

>The Wildcard game isn't fucked either, if you want more than 1 playoff game maybe your team should've won their division

It's a sport where the very worst team will still beat the very best team 40% of the time
1 game between two playoff-caliber teams is literally a coin flip. What's the point of even playing it?

>Which isn't always true IE: Trout on the Angels
The Angels are in that group with the Yanks, Sox, and Dodgers
They don't have the historic success but don't act like they don't have money out the ass
The Mets are just baseball's Knicks. Somehow, someway, they're so incompetent they manage to fuck it up despite all the advantages they have.

You're right that the nuts & bolts of the parity problems of the two leagues are very different, but the end result is the same: you've got a big chunk of teams whose entire existence does not matter.
If you're a Padres fan, why would you continue to watch baseball? A Pirates fan? A Reds fan? A Rays fan (it's no wonder they don't exist)? A Rockies fan? Orioles? Blue Jays?

When I heard they traded for PG I thought they would've given far more than what they actually did. Will miss SGA though, still young and will get better, played well in the playoffs. Gallarnari was good but was a little overpaid and he disappeared in the playoffs, PG is a big upgrade over him. Good trade for the Clips. West did good not giving up more for PG.

>Reds fan, Jays Fans, Pirates Fans
They have history, and could win again. Which again, having history is more than most teams can say in the NBA. Hell Jays won 2 in the 90s, been to an ALCS again, and have a good shot to win, again more than you can say about the NBA. The pirates were in 4 wIldcard games back to back, nearly won the division those years and got cheated by incompetent management and ownership. The ability for Pittsburgh to get talent isn't hard to believe

>Rays fan, Rockies Fan
Expansion teams. Rays have the unfortunate luck to be in the AL East yet if Playoffs started today, the Rays will be in it as a wildcard team. There's many factors that go into winning a world series, and having a better overall roster in pitching and hitting is far more important than having the best in the sport and some good guys. Angels are the prime example of this. Meanwhile in the Eastern conference, WHICH in itself is 1/2 of the entire NBA that's a pathetic joke, Lebron and some good guys took them to the chip just about every year.

Saying baseball doesn't have Parity, pointing to division titles which apart from the NL West which the dodgers make the rest of the teams their whipping boys due to half of the division being expansion teams, and the AL East that has the two biggest markets in baseball have parity along with who wins the world series, and then calling that luck is a joke.

In terms of parity in the major league sports of America it goes
MLB > NFL > NHL >>>>>>>>> NBA

>They have history, and could win again

Don't act like their success in the 70s is somehow relevant today
The economics of the game have changed way too much
Long-term we'll look back on any sports history before the 90s as no longer counting as the modern era

>Expansion teams
That was 25 years ago. Do you just stay an expansion team forever?

It's a bit like soccer. Any of these teams could hypothetically be bought up by an oil sheikh with infinite money and suddenly become competitive, sure. But that's the whole point -the only way to matter is to be rich as fuck

>the AL East that has the two biggest markets in baseball

That's the point. That shouldn't mean shit. It should be about how well your management and ownership puts together a competitive team, not how big your market is
You can shit on the NFL for being >lolpatswin every year, but it's not like they got there by just throwing loads of money at Brady and Belichick when they were playing for some smaller market
They made smart decisions

>one team has 27 rings
>parity

/g/ here
steve ballmer is an absolute fucking moron and single-handedly ruined microsoft for years. Bill gates left just because he didn't want to fire his best friend ballmer.

>How do you not understand the playoffs are pure luck?
Not him. But baseball playoffs being "luck based" is a crock of shit.

Your sport is flipping a coin 162 times get over it

If the sport were flipping a coin, you'd see perfect parity across the board, with every team winning titles at a similar rate. That doesn't happen. Why do you think that is? Just because the sport isn't predictable as your apehoop, doesn't mean it's "luck based."

>That's the point. That shouldn't mean shit. It should be about how well your management and ownership puts together a competitive team,

Literally the entire point I'm arguing is that smaller markets in baseball have a better shot at winning titles than any other league in the USA.

This is true. When I state this you throw your desk up go "TITTTLTRLESSSS DONT MATTTTERRR LOOOK AT DIVISION WINNERS"

when I bring up teams equally win divisions you go back to the other point. Reality is The Orioles and Rays haven't had good enough squads to win a title in the last 2 decades. They've all been in the playoffs the last 2 decades, and all been unable to win.

The Farm system, IE what small markets can do to raise and build their own talent in baseball, is far superior to farm systems in the NFL, and NBA.

Yes the success in the 70s are relevant today because we're comparing parity. Past wins, even 50 years ago are important in this because we're talking about teams with championships.

7 MLB Teams don't have a title. Of those 7, there are 7 world series titles lost amongst them. The two teams in baseball to never go to a championship game, Yes only 2, the Mariners have the best record in baseball of all time in a regular season. The Nationals have lost playoffs for the last decade.

11 NBA teams don't have titles. Was 12 last year, and that essentially half of the league.

11 NFL Teams don't have titles.

Of the 13, 6 of them have never been to an NBA final. Of the 5 that have there's 9 championship losses between them

>10 out of 30 MLB teams havent been to a world series in the last 20 years
>14 out of 30 NBA teams havent been to a Chip in the last 20 years
>13 out of 32 NFL teams havent been to a Chip in the last 20 years
>NBA has existed for half the time of MLB
>Celtics 17 wins
>Lakers 16 wins
OHONOOONOOOOOOOO

>That doesn't happen. Why do you think that is?

Because that's not how flipping a coin works

Is lebron still good at 34? I think last season he looked a bit slower and lazier on defence.

Talking shit about baseball when you don't know shit about baseball.

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>Because that's not how flipping a coin works
Over a certain sample size, it does. The Padres, Mariners, etc have played enough games over their histories for a large enough sample size to determine if their results (or lack thereof) were "luck based." Neither team or teams like them have won. If every team had coinflip odds of winning, the Mariners and Padres would have won a title already.

>Literally the entire point I'm arguing is that smaller markets in baseball have a better shot at winning titles than any other league in the USA.

Only because your playoffs are luck, and even then, no they don't
The Steelers have 6 super bowls. The Pirates don't do shit.
Green Bay has 4. They're not even in the Milwaukee market, and they're still a hundred times for relevant than the Brewers.
Denver has 3. The Rockies have shit.

But the Jets have just 1, the Bears have just 1, the Chargers have none and the Rams' only one came in St. Louis

But I'm not looking at titles OR division winners. I'm just looking at the ability to be consistently relevant for an extended period of time. Look what happened to the Royals. If the Padres died in a plane crash tomorrow, would anyone even notice?

You keep shouting about farm systems but half the league is a fucking farm system for the Yanks, Sox, Dodgers, etc

You just don't get it. It's about 'Can X team have any hope of ever being relevant today?' In the NBA and MLB there's way too many teams for whom the answer is no.

The Raptors are the perfect example for this. They literally just won a championship, and yet they're still not relevant. Why? Because despite being perfectly run, it still took an act of god for them to win, and even then their best player bailed on them for a big market as soon as he could
And that's a "success" story?

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>If you're a Padres fan, why would you continue to watch baseball? A Pirates fan? A Reds fan? A Rays fan (it's no wonder they don't exist)? A Rockies fan? Orioles? Blue Jays?
Obvious you don't follow baseball. And the point the other user is trying to make to you is that market factors and money do indeed play less of a role in team success than in the NFL and NBA. And it all comes down to how well you scout and develop. Throwing money at marquee FAs hasn't worked in the MLB for years.

The Padres have one of the best young cores in the MLB and the number 1 ranked farm system in baseball. Padres fans have plenty of incentive to watch. The Jays were contender a couple of years ago and have one of the best prospect in years on their team and a solid farm system. Rays always figure out some kind of analytical trick and punch considerably over their weight year after year.

Point is, you don't need a roster featuring a "Big 3" core of players who are all rated top 10 in the league, like you do in basketball, in order to be a title contender. Also, because of the MLB's farm and development system, there's more top tier talent to go around vs. the NBA, where the top 5 players can massively shift the balance of power. If Trout was magically transferred to the Yankees, they still wouldn't be a "shoe in" for the WS.

NIGGA WINNING OR PLAYING IN A WORLD SERIES TITLE IS THE DEFINITION OF RELEVANT THE POINT IM GETTING AT. LITERALLY IN MLB MORE TEAMS HAVE MORE PERIODS OF RELEVANCY AND HAVE IN THE NBA, IN THE LAST 2 AND 3 DECADES THAN IN THE FUCKING NBA.

You are the literal definition of dense.
>THE 2014/2015 ROYALS DONT COUNT THEY ARENT AN EXAMPLE OF PARRRITTYYYYYY BECAUSE THEY CANT WIN THE DIVISION CONSTANTLY AND CONSISTENTLY REEEEEEEEEE

Then you're ignoring all the small market teams that have periods of success in the MLB for sustained periods of time. Twins, Tigers, Cleveland Indians, all multiple division titles. Multiple years constantly.

Braves, Nationals, Phillies. Same thing, long runs of divison titles.

Cardinals (Don't give me the BS STL is a baseball city, it's still a small market like KC), Brewers (have had sustained success in the past and currently as they're winning the NLC), and reds to a smaller extent

Astros, Texans, the A's, all had periods of success. The fact these teams periods of success are 4-6 years and not the 8 year streaks of the Yankees, Patriots, and other teams are the definition of parity.

>I'm just looking at the ability to be consistently relevant for an extended period of time
This is stupid. A league that has a team staying relevant for a decade isn't parity. Thank you though, because this statement alone, right here means that you're arguing about Parity and have no earthly idea what parity means.

If we're going back to the start of the 90s too those numbers get even more interesting because since the 90s, only 5 MLB teams haven't been to a world series.

>Baltimore Orioles ALE
>Oakland Athletics ALW
>Milwaukee Brewers NLC
>Washington Nationals NLE
>Seattle Mariners ALW

Infact, all of the 90s expansion teams have been to a world series game since the creation of their team. This more than you can say for other leagues expansion teams who never sniff a title appearance.

Thanks for putting things into words better than I can. Bit drunk and high right now, but this guy hasn't the faintest idea what parity is.

>I'm just looking at the ability to be consistently relevant for an extended period of time

This was the statement he made, which plenty of small market teams do this. Teams like the White Sox, and Royals who win a title then vanish into dust don't do it because they couldn't afford big market names, or because there's no parity in baseball.

It's because a team like the Royals, who spent 30 years not winning in playoffs, after appearing in one WS and losing it, the following season blew up their entire farm system in trades to other teams for the last pieces of a WS run, IE the Cueto trade. Their best pitching prospect and ace died in a goddamn car crash, the year after their WS title, and the team hasn't drafted good talent since the 2012 draft for their farm. I'm a royals fan, so that exact specific example grinds my gears quite a bit. Ontop of that they gave long contracts for the first time in their history, to players that never played the same. Like Alex Gordon.

WAKE UP MR WEST
WAKE UP MR WEST!

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No one is on the edge of their seat for a team that's 43-45
It's cute they have a great young core or whatever but they're all just going to end up on the Red Sox or Cubs anyways
They'll likely never win shit for San Diego

No, it doesn't work like the NBA. 3 big FA signings don't suddenly get you a championship. I get that. I'm not worried about that. I'm worried about the half the league that's irrelevant. Having a good farm doesn't make you relevant, unless you think the fucking El Paso Chihuahuas and Columbus Clippers are relevant
Why would I care if its the Yankees or the Angels who win the World Series? It'll never be my team.

>NIGGA WINNING OR PLAYING IN A WORLD SERIES TITLE IS THE DEFINITION OF RELEVANT THE POINT IM GETTING AT

It's not though. You can meme your way into one of those. Look at the fucking Marlins. Weird shit happens sometimes.
Your one, fluky "Hey remember that time that team from outside the power 8 got really lucky?" proves nothing

I had a big giant post responding to every one of those teams, but Yea Forums got mad at me for making it too long, so I'll just reiterate my overall point, which is this: it does not matter if you win a cute little division title, or even multiple division titles, if all your talent is just going to be bought by some richer team. You don't see that in the NFL, and you don't really see it in the NHL. Is it so much to ask that one of these teams with great farms and scouting that you love so much actually be allowed to keep the players they develop and stay competitive? Haven't they earned that by scouting and developing so well?

Lakers will be better without le miss 50 games a season man

Kawhi will be worse without the Lakers

Craptors will go back to eternal irrelevance

He's a massive pussy who disappears under the weight of high expectations

Nobody is expecting him to do shit with the clibbers. Lakers would be ring or disgrace, and pussy ass kawhi doesn't want that smoke

read this post for the royals

Can't really do much when the team blows itself up, makes horrible trade deals for mediocre pitchers in an attempt to contend rather than rebuild.

There was no future for KC. Tons of their players were playing at a level above their average. I mean shit KC had the worst player in baseball, starting on their roster during both WS in Pablo Escobar.

The fact is, parity in sports is teams winning championships. This is where baseball has more parity because 3 positions in the sport don't dominate every other one like in NFL and NBA.

Not how many times they can win a meaningless division title in a row like the Tigers did for a decade with no reward for it. In the end we're arguing different things, and we have different definition of parity.

Also all the world class talent in baseball isn't bought by just one team. I don't understand where you keep believing this.

>Can't really do much when the team blows itself up, makes horrible trade deals for mediocre pitchers in an attempt to contend rather than rebuild.

And you don't think that's the product of knowing they would soon be priced out of their own talent?

>Tons of their players were playing at a level above their average

So in other words, their world series was luck?

>we have different definition of parity.

I mean, you can call it parity or something else, but the point still stands that half the teams aren't relevant and never really have a chance aside from prayer, and that's a significant problem

>Also all the world class talent in baseball isn't bought by just one team. I don't understand where you keep believing this.

I haven't said this at any point. You keep trying to put those words in my mouth when I've consistently said it doesn't work like it does in the NBA. The Cubs and Yanks and Sox and Dodgers, etc, don't buy up all your talent and automatically win championships. But they still buy up all your talent.

They don't buy up all the talent though, there's teams like Diamondbacks who have Grienke one of the best pitchers and they're small market.

Yeah and the D'backs are 15 back
Big whoop they let them keep their token
At this point he's too old for a big team to splash that much money on him
Well unless they're really fucking stupid
Guess we'll see him become a Met

Honestly I respect your opinion and disagree. I don't really have much more to say on the subject.

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The browns have a lot of fans tho. The clippers were more like the jaguars

Clips got a pack a BABBOONS now fr

Clip Gang

You forgot
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lelkers FO is a shitshow, clips is basicaly the same thing but w a passionate boomer and the logo running the team

>Lakers will continue to attract big name free agents

Like they did with PG13 and Kawhi? LMAO

AD only followed because of Lebron, and Lebron only went to make movies and expand his own brand.

>If he signs that contract, will LA fall into the ocean?
Lets hope so

>play on shit team
>99% of NBA fans are retarded casuals who think your failure to win is entirely your fault
>99% of NBA fans are retarded casuals who say that winning a ring is all that matters and it doesn't matter how you do it
>those same retarded casuals get butthurt when he wins rings on "MUH SUPERTEAMS!"
this is what you get. KD to the Warriors was your fault too.

You are such a fucking /pol/cel lmfao. Go outside you retard. Why is everything about Israel and jews to you idiots? LMAO you are so unironically stupid that you literally believe there is a conspiracy stopping Lebron in the NBA because he said something about Israel. Jump off a bridge lmfao

This has been happening for quite some time, child.

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We got two this year didn't we? I believe in my rapties

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Revenge for the Lakers turning their back on him. Same with Magic id bet money he talked Kawai into going

Why did lebron have to come around and completely ruin my lakies? I never asked for this. I would have been ok with a rebuild and maybe PG