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Are you retarded? This was an user thread. Stop with the oldgay boogeyman shit.

oldfaggot posted it but at least he had the decency to take his trip off.

>implying

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I mean, who do you actually put above him? Vinatieri has the career. Gostkowski has a mix of career and accuracy, but Tucker is the most accurate and if he stays the course he will wind up being better than both of those guys.

Vinatieri, no question

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Nougatereri has been playing for like 30 years. Tucker is honestly the best kicker in history.

>Tucker ranks 69th
At least he has that

Except...he doesn't?

Having a long and successful career is a bad thing in your eyes?

Except...he does?
Are...you blind?

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dubs for Newton being on IR by week 5

PATs are a meme. FG made is all that matters.

Except when they're literally game deciding GOSTKOWSKI YOU FUCK

Tucker will have a very long career. Guy is extremely accurate.

K, maybe he will. Vinatieri is still the GOAT though. And as you can see from the list above, there are 8 other active kickers that are closer than Tucker.

Dubs decide which team loses the ACL sweepstakes this year

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reroll

Longevity does not equal GOAT. Tucker is the all time best

Nah. He hasn't even kicked the most field goals.

Learn to read moron

Raiders

Ravens.

All of them

>rooting against the Ravens

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All tripfags

Rams

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Anons BTFO

Patriots plz

Honestly they've had that shit coming

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>reddit bay

Rasm

>chorgr curse gets passed on to the Rasm

Tell me God isn't real.

why do simp niggas hate him so much.

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This was baste. Only Aints fags and redditors were mad about this.

eagles

winrar

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Pack

>RBMK EDITION
based

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>back: bradys6thknee
>front: cuckOld Bay

I'm just surprised they're both still around

>best roster
>best defense
>best coach
>mvp caliber qb
>favored to win the division
Owl bound, it's not too late to hop on the bandwagon bros

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Nice tirooyinka but why even bother posting it when you say you have an MVP caliber QB, that doesn't even make people mad it just makes you sound retarded lol

Browns and Mayfield.

I'm just reporting the facts, theres only 11 guys above him

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>50-1

Every QB ahead of him with the exception of Baker is far better.

Are you saying that because hes going to be a sophomore QB or because you think hes not actually better than Mitch?

Sophomore, also he is better than Mitch but not as far ahead as everyone else on that list

Is Pollard just salty, or is he right?

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>mvp calibre QB

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Might be right but the fact is that Vegas thinks he has decent odds to win mvp over superior QBs. That's why I put MVP caliber.

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What's the name of Bradys system cause Belichick coaches defense

2 years in a row, based and brutalized

He wants attention

It's much easier to root against the Ravens now that Flacco is gone, he was their only redeeming quality

They bumped his odds because so many fucking retards were taking flyers on him, that doesnt make it actually likely

>reddit bay

>HAHAHAHA OLD BAY ONCE POSTED A GRAPH SHOWING MY TEAM WAS THE MOST POPULAR ON REDDIT SO NOW I CALL HIM REDDIT BAY BECAUSE I'M MAD MY TEAM IS REDDIT AND I'M AN OBNOXIOUS TWAT

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>leddit

yikes, seem rather upset there, sweetie.

youtube.com/watch?v=HS4af3K4m1Y

While I do like the Bear's defense, Trubisky is just so fucking terrible. I could see them winning the division since the NFC North will be dogshit this year, but I can't see them going anywhere in the playoffs.

Holy cringe, batman

>reddit bay

Based.

Clean hit, was going for it before Teddy was sliding.

don’t show ratbirds fans

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Also tried to roll off him instead of going straighy to the ground

Thats Kiko Alonso level of dirty

200 to 1 going to 50 to 1 is a pretty big bump buddy. Vegas would take the free money if they really thought it was that unlikely

Not in the unlikely event he wins, besides the line changed when people started to put so much money on him. They changed it precisley because they didn't want to pay out the $$$

Kiko Alonso did nothing wrong, reddit bay

Vegas wouldn't give up that much money if they thought it was THAT unlikely

>lay a dirty hit on Flacco pissing off the entire Ravens roster
>get BTFO 40-0 in a prime time game to a Ryan Mallett let offense

Yeah Alonso did nothing wrong.

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Remember when he shanked that field goal against the patriots that sent the pats to the superb owl

Repeat after me:
BALDING
FRAUD

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>old gay

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That was Billy Cundiff you absolute retard

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>muh dirty hit
It was Flacco's fault, he slid way too late and kept his head up the whole way. We've been over this before.

>lay a dirty hit on Flacco
you keep insisting on this when the footage shows that Flacco very obviously slid too late. He went for extra yards and Alonso went for the tackle as he should. The only reason it could be called a late hit was because Alonso was committed to his tackle and the hit came as Flacco was sliding BECAUSE Flacco slid late like a greedy dumbshit

But you'll keep insisting that it's Alonso's fault because you're willing to close your eyes to the reality that's readily available in slow motion.

By rthe rules the QB is ruled down the instant he begins his slide. Don't be obtuse now, it's very clear that Alonso hit him long after he began his slide. Beside Alonso has a history of being a dirty player so I'm not giving him the benefit of doubt.

The NFL fined Kiko for the hit so it was obviously a dirty play

yeah lol no one gives enough of a shit about ratbirds or their kicker to tell the difference

So it was clean, just like Kiko's hit was clean?

Yeah, being an informed poster is overrated right?

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He had no time to stop the tackle, because Flacco slid too late. It's the bullshit that some QBs do, where they wait until it's too late so that either the defender doesn't close (letting the QB pick up more yards) or commits the foul.
Also, he should have kept his head down.

What's to be done about it though? QBs are going to fight for those extra yards, especially when the game's on the line, and it's true that there's little a defender can do to stop their form mid tackle. RGIII was notorious for trying to draw a foul on the defender for a late hit by pretending to run out of bounds and then going for a few more yards, late slides are pretty similar but equally as dangerous for the quarterback. Where is the middle ground here to protect the QB but also let the defense play?

>NFL discipline is infallible
The absolute state of (You)

the hit was done improperly and he definitely got at Flacco's helmet in a way he shouldn't have. The fine is arguably for the outcome, not the intent. The fact that Alonso hit Flacco the way he did was a result of Flacco's late slide, not because Alonso intended to hit Flacco late.

>What's to be done about it though?
Did not throw a flag when the QB slides too late? It's pretty simple.

reddit bag with the reddit tier post

...

>especially when the game's on the line
that game wasn't on the line. the result was BAL 40 MIA 0. Flacco already had the first down and they weren't even remotely in a risky position. That late slide was 100% on Flacco overextending without needing to.

He cant be too terrible if Vegas is afraid of losing millions because of him

Cry more because you got exposed as a meme tier retard

Flacco did slide late, but it's undeniable that Alonso had plenty of time to avoid wrecking Flacco. He just chose not to. I get your point and all since I fucking hate QBs abusing the rules for extra yardage, but Alonso did not need to hit Flacco and if you watch the play again he had plenty of time. You can claim it's not intentional, and maybe it really wasn't, but he did nothing to soften the hit after he saw him sliding.

but I didnt???????? I btfo you so bad

Game of inches senpai and in the NFL crazier comebacks have happened.

We depend on the football gods to injure asshole quarterbacks that exploit their invulnerability shield.

>RGIII was notorious for trying to draw a foul on the defender for a late hit by pretending to run out of bounds and then going for a few more yards, late slides are pretty similar but equally as dangerous for the quarterback.
Jimmy G got injured doing exactly this. It was karma.

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I thought these players were good? what the hell happened?

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>claim tucker missed a kick
>get called out that he didn't
>LMAO I BTFO YOU SO HARD

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Off-field issues.

Ajayi is ok just injury wise not ok

im contacting the authorities because you are using an unsolicited image of me you will be under arrest

He's gotten kinda slow and become more "serviceable" than "good". He still deserves a spot on a team for how good he is at finding his way through messy lines, but I can also see why teams aren't jumping at him.

Wilkerson and Morgan are the only two that are any good and one has off the field issues and the other is old.

Most of those guys are headcases or old, Ajayi is a great RB but has the body of a 15 year vet.

The GOAT offensive lineman would never tripfag desu
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pats

>"A runner who desires to take advantage of this protection is responsible for starting his slide before contact by a defensive player is imminent; if he does not, and waits until the last moment to begin his slide, he puts himself in jeopardy of being contacted."
Flacco slid only once he saw Alonso incoming on him. Go watch the video of it

Literally who?

What did Crabtree do?

Crabtree is fine, a bit of a nigger but nothing too bad he is just slow and can't catch for shit.

>I'm not a racist
>bit of a nigger
gonna be a yikes from me, dawg.

so were the jags and vikings last year, and they actually won playoff games
whats different about the bears? it sure isnt QB play

Wow you seem obsessed as hell lad. I just said it wasn't bad why are you sperging out? Calling someone a nigger has nothing to do with their race, but how they act. I consider Tom Brady a nigger foe how he acts and that assclown is whiter than sour cream

the line movement isnt linear, it really isnt good odds
the MVP is about narratives, not true talent. see newton and ryan (both still better QBs than trubisky

wait until training camp and injuries. teams want to see what they have already, all these guys want guaranteed money

berds

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Let's check with the judges
>Nigger is an attitude and I even call white people niggers, I'm not a racist.
Looks like...yep, nobody buys that. Sheltered skinny whiteboy bitch says "nigger" on his chinese basketweaving forum and insists he's not a racist even though literally zero people would be okay with him saying nigger in any context in real life.

You are a racist.

Nope

Do you wanna actually talk about the Cardinals or...?

I honestly don't even get why Vegas would adjust the odds even if everyone were betting like crazy on him. Yes, on the rare chance he wins, they would get buttfucked hard and maybe they're just playing it really safe so they don't get ruined by an insanely rare outcome, but it still seems kinda dumb if tons of people are taking action on him to limit it like that.

Trubisky is fucking terrible. Just watching his pro bowl appearances and seeing his accuracy in a vacuum of easy fucking throws is enough for me to count him out as ever being a relevant quarterback, let alone all the other issues he has. The Bears making it anywhere this coming year will be due to the monsters on defense getting the ball back a lot. I do think the Bears win the division. But fuck, if they even get chosen for MVP, a guy like Hicks would deserve MVP more than Trubisky.

I just don't see how he ever wins the MVP. He really is bad. Like bottom 16 QB bad.

>the MVP is about narratives, not true talent
That's why I keep mentioning it in my post, if the case can be made for Trubisky winning MVP that's a good sign along with the others that I listed that the Bears are Owl bound.

Trubisky is still developing and Vegas knows that. He wasnt Carson Wentz or Deshaun Watson coming out of college, he didnt even play a full season. He developed from year one to two and they're expecting him to develop from two to three and run Nagys system efficiently.

fuck off reddit bay

They still need to overhaul awards and their names. If JJ Watt couldn't win MVP in 2014, no non qb can. QBs should get something like "the Otto Graham award" as de facto MVP, leaving everyone else to go for the MVP (if they'd want to change that name for the sake of the qbs' feelings, it could be the "Jim Thorpe award"). The Lombardi should honestly switch names with the NFC's Halas trophy, since Halas did found the league and win seven championships. COTY could be the Paul Brown award, and so on.

This. Best kicker award should be the Justin Tucker award and the Butkus award should be replaced with the Lewis award.

>if the case can be made for Trubisky winning MVP that's a good sign along with the others that I listed that the Bears are Owl bound.
But again, those odds were terrible until so many people bet on them that Vegas switched the odds just to protect their own ass. Not because they actually think Trubisky has better odds. Second, let's actually look at how many MVP winners played in the Super Bowl since the merger.

1966 SB01: Yes
1967 SB02: No
1968 SB03: Yes
1969 SB04: No
1970 SB05: No
1971 SB06: No
1972 SB07: Yes
1973 SB08: No
1974 SB09: No
1975 SB10: No
1976 SB11: No
1977 SB12: No
1978 SB13: Yes
1979 SB14: No
1980 SB15: No
1981 SB16: Yes
1982 SB17: Yes
1983 SB18: Yes
1984 SB19: Yes
1985 SB20: No
1986 SB21: Yes
1987 SB22: Yes
1988 SB23: Yes
1989 SB24: Yes
1990 SB25: No
1991 SB26: Yes
1992 SB27: No
1993 SB28: Yes
1994 SB29: Yes
1995 SB30: No
1996 SB31: Yes
1997 SB32: Yes/No
1998 SB33: Yes
1999 SB34: Yes
2000 SB35: No
2001 SB36: Yes
2002 SB37: Yes
2003 SB38: No/No
2004 SB39: No
2005 SB40: Yes
2006 SB41: No
2007 SB42: Yes
2008 SB43: No
2009 SB44: Yes
2010 SB45: No
2011 SB46: No
2012 SB47: No
2013 SB48: Yes
2014 SB49: No
2015 SB50: Yes
2016 SB51: Yes
2017 SB52: Yes
2018 SB53: No

28/55(51%) MVPs played in the Super Bowl. There's no real correlation between MVP and being in the owl.

I didnt say trubisky is going to win MVP. I specifically put mvp caliber because Vegas obviously believes the case can be made for him winning it and used the change in the odds to back it up.

>I didnt say trubisky is going to win MVP.
No. You argued that because he was apparently considered a more likely candidate to win MVP, that that correlates with being Super Bowl bound. I just illustrated why there's no real correlation between MVP and being in the super bowl. Winning MVP means making the playoffs and generally being a first round bye. That's true in virtually every single MVP case. But half of them don't make the owl. And Trubisky is not even that highly placed on the MVP list even with the change made to the odds.

So it essentially means nothing.

>Vegas obviously believes the case can be made for him winning it
You've been corrected on this a whole bunch of times and yet you keep saying it. There's a difference between believing there's a serious chance, and mathematically covering your own ass in what is essentially a popularity contest. MVP isn't even dictated directly by results, but by opinions. So if a bunch of people suddenly start having their opinions swayed early on, a switch in odds wouldn't indicate more faith in a player, but just a shift in opinion.

You are an idiot

>looking through wikipedia looking at random football stuff.
>figure out that roethlisberger threw over 5,000 yards this past season.
why is this the first time I am hearing about this

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Packers

Because of garbage time yards and rule changes. 4000 yards used to be an accomplishment, 5000 yards now is not.

Because his team didn't make the playoffs and yardage is only an important stat relative to TDs really. Roethlisberger also threw the ball more than anyone else in the league, so that doesn't mean that much really.

(Pass Plays)/(Run Plays)/(Total Plays)[Pass%]

PASS HEAVY

#1 Steelers: 689/345/1034[66.6%]
#2 Packers: 640/333/973[65.8%]
#3 Falcons: 617/351/968[63.7%]
#4 Vikings: 606/357/963[62.9%)
#5 Giants: 583/354/937[62.2%]
#6 Buccaneers: 625/389/1014[61.6%]
#7 Colts: 644/408/1052[61.2%]
#8 Bengals: 542/359/901[60.2%]
#9 Chiefs: 583/387/970[60.1%]
#10 Eagles: 599/401/1000[59.9%]
#11 Broncos: 588/393/981[59.9%]
#12 Raiders: 556/387943[59.0%]
#13 Lions: 574/404/978[58.7%]
#14 Browns: 574/411/985[58.3%]
#15 Cardinals: 495/355/850[58.2%]
#16 Panthers: 563/416/979[57.5%]
#17 Chargers: 512/399/911[56.2%]
#18 Jets: 524/410/934[56.1%]
#19 Jaguars: 536/416/959[55.9%]
#20 49ers: 532/423/955[55.5%]
#21 Rams: 568/459/1027[55.3%]
#22 Dolphins: 455/371/826[55.1%]
#23 Redskins: 509/414/923[55.1%]
#24 Patriots: 574/478/1052[54.6%]
#25 Cowboys: 527/439/966[54.6%]
#26 Saints: 519/471/990[52.4%]
#27 Bears: 512/468/980[52.2%]
#28 Texans: 506/472/978[51.7%]
#29 Bills: 499/468/967[51.6%]
#30 Ravens: 556/547/1103[50.4%]
#31 Titans: 437/456/893[48.9%]
#32 Seahawks: 427/534/961[44.4%]

RUN HEAVY

>3 playoff teams were throw heavy, 8 were run heavy, and 1 was neutral
>both super bowl teams were run heavy
>most of the top 10 pass heavy teams not only missed the playoffs, but are traditionally good teams that MAKE the playoffs but didn't
Hmmmmmm

7/10 of the most run heavy teams made the playoffs. That's pretty interesting.

>hurr durr you need to pass for 5000 yards to be good

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Injuries that's what

>reddit bay

I argued that the Bears are Owl bound due to having the best roster, defense, and coach as well as having a QB with decent odds to win MVP. And that's what I keep saying, decent odds.

I keep getting told that they're just doing it to cover their own ass but is going from 200 to 1 to 50 to 1 considered a common in terms of line movement? Can I expect another QBs odds to change that drastically before the season starts? That's the line in the post that gets the most reactions but if it was impossible then nobody would bet it and the line wouldn't move. Also wasnt Mahomes' odds originally placed at 200 to 1 and then moved to 50 to 1 before the season started? That's not a rhetorical question I'm actually asking that because I vaguely remember.

They have a great defense and that's it. Your other two opinions on the team are suspect and biased. The Bears probably do win the division, but even that isn't certain. Their schedule is harder this year where last year they had the most cake schedule in the league. And even with that cake schedule, they didn't do very well, and they pooped out in the playoffs right off the bat. Trubisky at the helm is precisely what makes me think they are not making the Super Bowl. He does not have SB level talent, and very few shitty QBs in the modern era have managed to make the super bowl, let alone win it. I predict the Bears finish somewhere between 8-8 and 10-6. They probably win the division with that because the NFC North is a dumpster fire. I predict they lose in the Wild Card again, or at best make a divisional exit. They are not making it to the NFCCG or Super Bowl.

>I keep getting told that they're just doing it to cover their own ass but is going from 200 to 1 to 50 to 1 considered a common in terms of line movement?
That's not as drastic as it sounds. It means a lot in terms of covering a longshot bet, but it still doesn't mean something is likely. Let's put it this way: The Bears themselves have a decent shot of being a good team this year, and the MVP is generally just given to the Quarterback of a good team regardless of how questionably shit they are. So it isn't by virtue of Trubisky that he would actually receive the honors, but his team. In that sense, 200 to 1 may have been undervaluing the odds. But in a vacuum? It's not. Trubisky really is that bad.

>Can I expect another QBs odds to change that drastically before the season starts?
If everyone starts betting on some shit QB with long odds that is on an otherwise good team? Sure. That's why it happened with Trubisky.

>Mahomes
Was an unknown. Trubisky is not.

You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of betting. Betting a lot on Trubisky is not evidence that he is actually a frontrunner or that the Bears offense will actually be great and they're owl bound. It's evidence that Vegas just undervalued his odds, which made the bet worth taking due to its incredibly low risk. That's all it really means. Now that the numbers shifted, the action has disappeared.

>bears fans are retarded

More at 11

Who said he was a front runner? I said he has decent odds, which at the moment he currently does.

No, he doesn't. You're not going to get it even if I explain it. Let me try to put it in very real terms real quick.

If I said "Hey, I bet you Trubisky doesn't win MVP this year. If I win, I get 5 dollars from you. If you win, I'll pay you a thousand dollars." Would you take that bet? The answer should be yes. Now imagine upping that number to betting 100 dollars on Mitch Trubisky to win MVP, and in the even t it does happen, you win twenty thousand fucking dollars for a 100 dollar bet.

That is why people went crazy betting on it. Because that risk is worth it.

Now, professional bettors have been given odds of 50 to 1...which means betting just 5 dollars will net them 250 dollars back if they win. And...they aren't taking it. Most aren't coming anywhere near to touching it. Does scenario give you confidence that Trubisky has "decent odds" for the MVP?

That's the best I can illustrate it to you. Bettors took the Trubisky bet because the return is absolutely insane and the Bears have better than 1 in 200 odds of being a surprisingly good team this year, which automatically raises Trubisky's odds. You're reading bear excellence from these odds and you shouldn't be. It's more accurate to say that Vegas made a mistake by writing off Trubisky as utter dogshit(which he is), but overlooked the possibility of his team carrying him to MVP relevance being better than a fucking miracle. Not much better, but better.

That's the last post I'm making on this. If you don't get it after this, I don't know any other way to explain it.

Might put 100 on daniel jones to win ROY or MVP. A longshot is a longshot but his odds are better than the books

He won't even play this year

thats sad, he is going to blow their window because he has yet to learn the intricacy required to be successful against quality defenses. At this career trajectory, he should hope chicago never grows sick of him, or he can be a journeyman and have a kurt warner type career revival.

changing MVP award: sure
changing Lombardi: no

>16 to 32 teams
>each of them have a chance to contain MVP and/or make it to superbowl
>two get picked for SB, one gets picked for MVP
>roughly half picked for the latter has gotten picked for the former
your conditional probability is very bad

they could have changed to odds to stir people into betting more, not because they truly believe it will happen

odd because packers, falcons, and giants (vikings, steelers kinda) all have quality run games, they just had predictable offenses
at least packers and vikings are committing to the run more, IDK about falcons, but steelers and giants might not be

bears friends are hopefully learning a lot about football this offseason and next season

>change MVP awards
Abso-fucking-lutely. The MVP award has been a glorified QB award for too long

>change SB Trophy name
Hard no, not even a Green Gay fan.

>Trubisky is an mvp caliber QB
has a dumber sentence even been said?

>Change the Lombardi
Fucking kill yourself. Whether you’re a packers fan or not, Lombardi is a cornerstone of football history and legacy.

So we can all agree changing the Lombardi trophy would be terrible, but what trophies would you name after Belichick and Brady

>@RapSheet Vikings reportedly in talks with Cousins’ agent about contract restructuring to make cap space.
OH NO NO NO NO AAAAAHAHAHAAHAH

They should trade his bum ass...if they can.

>imagine spending *literal* hours out of your day on Yea Forums. Hours.
>imagine spending hours out of your day on Yea Forums *literally* every single day of your life.
>Imagine spending hours of your life each and every single day on a sports forum where half the people are mean to you and the other half filtered you so you have to samefag for lack of (You)s.
>Imagine NEVER missing a thread.
>imagine being Old Bay
It’s a mental illness, right? It’s soul crushing depressing when you really think about his life. Where is his family? Where are his friends? Why don’t they help him?

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COTY and SB ring

OH SHEET, IT'S DARREN SHAPAH
DA HARDEST HITTIN SAFTEY IN DA LEAGUE

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Maybe name a QB award after Brady just going on volume alone lol

So what will the excuse be from the vikangz fans when the kangz miss the playoffs going 5-11? They drafted an OLine, so it can’t be that. They have receivers and TEs, so it’s not that. And they have the exact same defense from 2017 and 2018, so it’s not that. My guess is their special teams.

>travel to Florida for the 4th
>fishing on a pier in my Pants hat
>qt Jags fan approaches for conversation and fishes next to me
>”Yeah, I’ve been a Jags fan since 1995”
>30 min later
>”I usually have my friends and their families over for gameday parties.”
>”I deck the house down with Dolphins decorations and it’s pretty fun”
What did they mean by this, Floridanons? Do you guys switch teams or something? I let too much time pass in the convo to bring it back up and ask

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actually, sweaty
they'll got 7-9

Women dont watch football. Her out-of-state strange tinder date probably fell through and forgot the premise of talking to you. she was probably trying to give you an STD or something

Shut up virgin. Unlike your shit state, we appreciate all of our sports teams

Lmao no they won’t. They have one of the worst offenses in the NFC, and their defense was ranked like 25 last year. 5-11 is the ceiling

Don't bully the Relocanes

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How did he get away with it?

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Yeah it doesn't work when you have to reply to people dipshit

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>ME BRAIN HUUUUURT

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as much as I would like to see them be terrible, their offense had more points than 5 other NFC teams, and same with yards (ranked 19th and 20th)
defense was 4th is ypg and 9th in ppg
plus I like the concept of falling short, but not too short, that masochistic and delusional vikings fan somehow get their hopes up again

Shut up loser they won’t even hit 4 wins with that offense. And defense means shit nowadays. They gave up the most PPG when in the lead of any other team.

You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like

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This dude really does age like wine

\

Nothing, he's just old. He's a bit of a weirdo but that's it.

the fin must have blocked his body hair

Imagine being such a brainlet organization that you abandon qbs after 2 years constantly

Kyler murray is the biggest meme player I've ever heard of in any sport

ok I've figured out the basic rules for American football. which team should I bandwagon this season?

Vikangz that way you get to see your first relocation

eagles, seahawks, patriots, packers, saints, chiefs, colts will all have magic moments on offense and probably good defenses
avoid vikings, jets, cowboys, chargers, titans, texans, bengals, buccs, redskins, lions -- they always choke
rams, bears, jags, browns, ravens, dolphins, falcons, cardinals, giants, 49ers, bills, broncos, raiders are all meme teams or have glaring flaws, milage may vary
dont know where to put steelers or panthers

>yfw da bears win da superb owl

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In Madden 20 maybe

>running that probability against 32 teams
>when only 12 make the playoffs and there has never been an MVP that WASN'T in the playoffs
>it's rare for MVPs to not be a #1 or #2 seed
>most MVPs playing with homefield advantage
>essentially have 1/4 odds to make the superbowl by pure chance alone if no other factors were involved.
Also, SB MVPs weren't counted and don't count. Those vegas odds are for regular season MVP alone. Your own conditional probability is the one that is shit. If we take homefield advantage/seed into account, MVPs don't have much if any affect on whether a team makes the Super Bowl or not.

You are Serbian so obviously the Eagles

I'm 6-1 betting against the spread for the summer league bros, vegas is bretty bad at making these odds for teams that never played together before

No, this is

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Unironically, he will start all 16 games for the NJ Giants.

He's got the hardest something

How good was Joe Gibbs and where does he rank all time in NFL coaching

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well if you just assume these conditions to be true...

>this fat fuck is considered the GOAT in handegg

what the fuck?

Only by asspained flyovers and New Yorkers clinging to a Yankees dynasty long faded.

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even if you just change the probabilities and assume the MVP is one of the 8 teams playing in the divisional round, then binomial dist. of two trials for 1/8th chance is still ~.2, no where near .5 and after 53 games we have enough evidence that MVP superbowl appearances aren't truly random
yeah your probability still sucks

/Bills Owl 2020/
as if the Yankees aren't winning this season lmoa

>Kendrick Norton lost his arm
>Catman died

What the fuck is going on?

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>reddit bay

For me, it's THE Philadelphia Football Eagles, Philadelphia Baseball Phillies, Philadelphia Basketball 76ers, Philadelphia Hockey Flyers, Philadelphia Soccer Union and Philadelphia Lacrosse Wings.

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Allah is mad.

>Literally no one believes this.

Except they're not 1/8 teams, because only 1 MVP is awarded. There's not one in the AFC and one in the NFC, so counting all 8 is wrong. The conference which doesn't receive the MVP has no involvement in whether the other conference's MVP makes the super bowl. You are retarded.

It is a raw 1/4 chance when absolutely no other factors are taken into account whether the MVP reaches the Super Bowl or not. When we factor in the advantages they receive from their often superior seeding positions(facing weaker seeds/home field advantage), the correlation between receiving an MVP and making the super bowl disappears. It's no different than how often the #1 and #2 seeds reach the super bowl, which is very, very often.

Your own probability is the one that sucks, retard.

>Kendrick Norton's left arm amputated

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>when you team has no real GOATs so you post a kicker

lel

>kick one field goal
>100% conversion rate
>retire to random loser on the internet thinks you are the best because longevity doesnt matter
>profit

uninspired. try again.
D+

bandwagon the Buccaneers...they're going to need all the help they can get this year :|

Will he ever play again?

>Kansass shitty Choofs

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(Floor)/(Ceiling) (Team) (Prediction)

10-06/16-00 Patriots 13-3
05-11/10-06 Jets 9-7
03-13/08-08 Bills 6-10
02-14/05-11 Dolphins 2-14

07-09/11-05 Steelers 10-6
06-10/12-04 Browns 9-7
05-11/10-06 Ravens 6-10
02-14/07-09 Bengals 4-12

05-11/10-06 Titans 9-7
06-10/10-06 Colts 8-8
05-11/09-07 Jaguars 7-9
05-11/09-07 Texans 7-9

11-05/14-02 Chiefs 12-4
10-06/13-03 Chargers 11-5
04-12/07-09 Raiders 6-10
02-14/06-10 Broncos 3-13

07-09/12-04 Cowboys 10-6
06-10/12-04 Eagles 10-6
03-13/06-10 Redskins 5-11
03-13/06-10 Giants 5-11

06-10/11-05 Bears 10-6
04-12/12-04 Packers 8-8
04-12/10-06 Vikings 6-10
04-12/09-07 Lions 5-11

05-11/12-04 Panthers 11-5
09-07/12-04 Saints 11-5
05-11/10-06 Falcons 6-10
02-14/06-10 Buccaneers 4-12

09-07/14-02 Rams 12-4
07-09/10-06 Seahawks 9-7
05-11/09-07 49ers 7-9
03-13/07-09 Cardinals 5-11

Just posting for posterity so I can see how I did after the season concludes, but mostly want to start some conversations on here since discussion has been lacking so badly lately, so criticize away and make your corrections/reasons why. Win total doesn't cleanly add up because many games are 50/50 in my mind.

Going through this, the AFC South is the most interesting division to me this season, because even though I think every team in the division is solid, all of them have absolutely brutal schedules so they're going to all be beaten down to .500 type numbers. I think anyone can take it, but looking at the games I think the Titans are actually best positioned to come away with the division even though I don't think they're the best team in the division.

The two big unknowns for me this season are the Browns and Packers. They're the only two teams I'm not confident enough to give a narrow window on because either team could wind up really terrible or really good.

I feel like the Rams regress just a touch more than you, so I envision their record being 11-5, still more than enough to win the NFCW.

I think the Packers are an above 500 team, but I can see them losing the PO race to a team like Seattle or Philly.

This is actually a really good explanation about the fundamentals of sports betting. But would I still be wrong if I mention that in a very literal sense Trubiskys odds are currently at 50 to 1

Ravens, also old bay commits suicide after being cucked

OLD BAY BTFO
Ravens BTFO
Lameme BTFO

Yessir

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ZyklonB yourself

cringe

Did you learn that in school right before the summer started oldgay? I hope high school is better than middle school for you

Wow you fags suck. Here I go saving this awesome thread from death by woymens sawker

He likes being cucked, tho
>Mistress T

>Bills ceiling 8-8
more like floor

Dubs or not it's happening to the Texans.

oh ok, makes more sense now, you weren't very clear, but I see my mistake
if we test whether the probability is 1/4th (division round team chosen for MVP makes superbowl), we have strong evidence it isn't the case
if you assume the MVP will play in a conference championship then we haven't seen a relation in SB appearances

bills have a higher ceiling, they have a stout defense and I could see the offense being OK for a winning record in the AFCE
dolphins have a higher floor and ceiling. They won 7 games last year mostly from a decent defense, and Fitz alone is worth 3 or 4 wins in a season. If Rosen outplays him, that number would go up
I could see the colts winning 11 or (unlikely) 12 games depending if everything goes their way
I think the broncos will be better than you give them credit for. fangio is a great defense guy, and flacco can win 7/8 games
redskins could win 8 games, and giants could win 7. itd be unlikely, but not too shocking
NFCN looks spot on
falcons could win 11, they still have weapons all over on offense and a quality defensive roster
buccs have an 8 or 9 game ceiling IMO, their offense has tools, and their DL has some pieces
I could see the seahawks winning 11 games and 49ers winning 10
basically I just like higher ceilings for many teams because I think the margins between them are thin and the league is very unpredictable

>yfw da bears win da superb owl

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>green gay fudge packers

nfl.com/videos/baldys-breakdowns/0ap3000001034696/Finding-the-Packers-next-Jordy-Nelson-Baldy-s-Breakdowns
davante adams, an athletic deep threat, a saavy geronimo who was on pace for 1k yards last season, an explosive back in aaron jones with pass catching ability, jimmy graham running seams against safeties
packers have some weapons

>reddit bay

Enough help tho?

>green gay butt packers

NFCW is basically perfect to me.
I think the NFCN could have the Packers and Vikings switched, but it really depends on how much of an impact the offseason makes for both teams and whether LaFleur's new strategies are really the difference maker for the packers

You're overrating the hell out of the cowboys

Get in on the giants 1 year before the Jones Dynasty starts

Literally has had a bigger impact in nascar

nah packers and vikings were real close last year and the former made moves in the offseason the latter didnt. plus I would rather bet on rodgers to have a big year in a new system than cousins

Absolutely based

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>he went to every Carolina game ever

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>triggering UrinatingSoi so hard
Honestly based

It’s what he deserves for being a fan of a city the NFL determined to not have a sizable population to maximize profits for a Superb Owl win

F

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>epstein arrested
>bitchknees nowhere to be seen

Really causes me to ponder things

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>reddit bay

Falcons vs Patroits in the Superbowl again

28-3 2 Eletric boogaloo

I remember when him and the Falcons birdlady almost got to fighting at a Falcons home game

Rate the jerseys of >your team's division rivals

For me, it's Redskins>Giants>Cowboys.

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Yeah, you have it right

I'd have to go

Seahawks>9ers>Rams

>I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.
Huh.

That’s bad and all, but how about this then:
>imagine being a ravens fan

Life is suffering. They STILL have yet to recover from this play. Yikes.

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The season wait is killing me, lads.

>2 more months before the Ravens end in last place, even behind the Bengals
Same here.

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While we're waiting, and I'm sorry if you guys hear this 100 times, how possible is it for a UK NFL franchise in the near future?

Very, with MLB considering a joint Canada/Tampa franchise, I could see London/Jacksonville.

Steelers > Browns >>>> Bengals

>His association with Epstein extends into allegations that women were lured directly into sex trafficking from Mar-A-Lago, with one woman claiming Epstein's then-girlfriend recruited her for prostitution as a 15-year-old when she worked as a locker room attendant at the resort that Epstein frequented.

Chargers > Raiders > Broncos
our division has the best jerseys t.bh

Yikes.

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PFT has an article up asking how much Todd Gurley has left, is he the modern day Shaun Alexander? 4 great HoF worthy years then kaput?

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can someone fill me in on what is mentally wrong with these two tripfags?

One actually talks football but is a Ravens homer, the other is a left wing nutjob who forgets this is a sports board.

Secretly gay for each other, mask it with insults, deflections, and political shit flinging, sometimes it's funny most times it's cringe, both of em are retarded though
Hello old bay, you forgot to say how he's so cool, you and Brady should go back to /mlb/

Stay obsessed, it wasn't me and I hardly ever post in /mlb/

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you're gonna tell me someone named OLD BAY doesn't root for GREEN BAY and likes baltimore instead?

berds

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Considering that the Chesapeake Bay is like 4000 times larger and more important and much older than Green Bay, yes.

are they right?

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The 2012 49ers got BTFO by the 2012 Ravens in the super bowl so yeah, thats a meme list

>2015 panthers
>2015 Cardinals
>2012 49ers
>2017 Jaguars

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>more important
except for football of course
and beer and cheese

Say it with me: AAF Champion Orlando Apollos

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The Patriots have won three Owls since this play.
That r***** have won zero (0) playoff games

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what the actual fuck

This guy will save them lol

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Hotshots literally ruined your perfect season lmao

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Why do you still care about that meme league?

Patriots

Patrishits BTFO

wat....
>2018 Chiefs
>Top 10 team of the last decade
>lost at home to another team in the AFCCG
>that team isn't on the top 10

I'm not sure I get the logic behind this. Is this like...theoretical hype around a team? Because that's the only way it makes much sense, but then the 2016 Patriots and 2015 Cardinals shouldn't be on there...I don't get it.

Read the fucking article you mongoloid.

i'm glad this cringe league folded. xfl is where its at.

>breaking your literally perfect record with a game losing penalty
Pottery

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and despite that your posts manage to shit up /mlb/ more than it already is
stay out of my basedball general you faggot

I havent posted on there in weeks autismo. I'd actually improve your shit general since last I was there it was /heem/ or /nba/ tier.

>tfw we never got to see Admiral Nelson return to save the Fleet's season

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No, fuck you faggot.

Rude

I can just tell by the teams listed that whatever metric he used, it's fucking retarded.

>Tom Brady is undefeated in overtime playoff games
>Tom Brady is the only player in NFL history to attempt a pass in overtime of the Superbowl

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Tom Brady is also the only QB to be suspended for cheating

the aints are going 7-9 again and there's nothing you can do about it

they also have the GOAT mike linebacker and GOAT free saftey
not bad

coin flip babby

1. 2013 Seahawks
2. 2017 Eagles
3. 2016 Patriots
4. 2014 Patriots
5. 2015 Broncos
6. 2018 Patriots
7. 2011 Giants
8. 2012 Ravens
9. 2010 Pakcers
10. 2015 Panthers
there i fixed it

this guy on twitter considered Matt Ryan a HOF QB and says that rings are a measure of team success. I agree that rings are a team accomplishment but is Ryan really going to the HOF.

>I hardly ever post in /mlb/
Orioles hardly ever win games so it checks out

Atlanta Falcon's Hall of Fame. I don't think anyone is going to be sitting around a hearth telling their grandkids about Matt Ryan.

Most wins in the American League from 2012 to 2018 (the Showalter era), ope harder fag

Current record and series won from 2012-2018?

Now you are moving the goal posts

28-3 immediately disqualified him from ever being considered a HoFer

With Jews... you win!

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No. You thought you’d try and look good by giving me some irrelevant shit about the most wins in the AL in every season but this one. I’ll answer my own question, since you’ll just refuse to. The current Baltimore Orioles record is 27-62. They did not win a single World Series from 2012-2018 despite having the most wins in the AL, either. It seems the only division title they got was in 2014 as well in that timeframe.

Great job by Brady on this play.

A shocking play to be sure.

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Yeah, you moved the goalposts

I never set any. You interpreted however you wanted to cast the Orioles in the best possible light. Doesn’t change their current record.

Trips decides which players wives recieve the NAACP award

Loaded question. They traded everyone away because they are rebuilding. It happens to every team and it's the Orioles turn. They have a loaded farm system though so it's not a concern.

Baker Mayfield just got married. Based or cringe?

I didnt know midges were allowed to marry in Ohio

Doesn’t sound like winning to me. Say the record with me, Old Bay. 27-62

Is that before or after he banned Epstein from his properties?

Is his husband at least handsome?

Arent you like 5'8" and live with your parents?

>marrying a gold digger

What could go wrong?

Thanks spelling and punctuation retard.

>#2
Heck yeah

My favorite part is we lost Super Bowl 50 lol it was PeyPey’s turn after all

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What are you on about?

>The President banned Epstein from his Mar-a-Lago estate "because Epstein sexually assaulted an underage girl at the club," according to court documents filed by Bradley Edwards, the lawyer who has represented several Epstein accusers. That claim has not been confirmed by the President or Mar-a-Lago
As fake as his claims of being a billionaire.

>The President banned Epstein from his Mar-a-Lago estate "because Epstein sexually assaulted an underage girl at the club," according to court documents filed by Bradley Edwards, the lawyer who has represented several Epstein accusers. That claim has not been confirmed by the President or Mar-a-Lago
>As fake as his claims of being a billionaire.
>court documents
>fake
Did they even ask the president of Mar-a-Lago or what?

she’s white, so based

Who are you arguing with?

he only wanted one instance of each team, so it was dominated by Patriots, Broncos, Seahawks etc.

wasn’t dominated*

Bitchknees banned again

Why are they saluting minecraft

>>court documents
>>fake
Let's see 'em?

Sadly.

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2017 Jags would have destroyed the Eagles in the Super Bowl if they didn't get cucked by the officials.

If the AFCCG is called down the middle, the Jaguars would have went up 27-3 at the time Myles Jack returns that fumble back for a touchdown. Instead, he was erroneously ruled down by contact and AJ Bouye was called for one of the worst phantom pass interference calls in history. They simply did not allow the Jaguars to play defense in that game.

The Jaguars up until about week 14 had the best pass defense in NFL history by DVOA

>would have

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In all seriousness, I considered that possibility, but I really don't think they regress that hard. I can't see them doing worse than 9-7, even with Drew Brees' regression. You just have too much overall talent even if Brees turned out to be totally average this season and really has begun to hit the wall, the Saints will still finish with a winning record.

>suspended for refusing to comply with a rigged internal investigation that wanted to seize personal information and use it to blackmail him into conceding guilt for a scheme that never occurred

Fixed that for you amigo

>actually talking to Old Gay about Tom Brady
Why bother? He knows Brady didn't cheat. He insists on it because he's a Ravens dicksucker and he absolutely needs some excuse to invalidate Brady or he can't even pretend his team is relevant.

>scheme never occured
>dozens of texts between equipment managers referring to one of them as "the deflator" mention Tom's specific instructions to have balls deflated

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2013 Seahawks is correct rest of the last looks like shit

>mention Tom's specific instructions to have balls deflated
No, they don't. I've read all of the texts. Not one of them has Brady order balls deflated, nor do any of the equipment managers mention receiving any kind of instructions from Brady to deflate anything.

It makes sense that people would deliberately take the texts out of context, but all they are is the equipment managers bitching about doing their job and talking shit behind Brady's back about how they're going to fuck up the footballs to get back at him by OVERinflating or underinflating them.

Catch my ass

Do you actually think that isn't a catch lol

>baker memefield married some random roastie

Lmaooo what a faggot

Thats Faker Gayfield to you

Will The Nosen One destroy Brady this year?

No

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In what alternate dimension?

>That guy married someone what a loser lol
Why do you care this much?

>reddit bay

Yes

HE NEEDS
MORE
HEEEEEEEEEEELPPP

/NFL/ BTFO'D

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>that piss poor protection from solder
god why did anyone ever think he was good

*wins the starting job in your path*

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Is there any real competition?

The red pill is knowing the Ryan Fitzpatrick has already bet $1 million on himself to make the playoffs, as Miami has the longest odds in the league and he only wants to make money.
Take the fitzpill, it’s free cash

Playing a fantasy draft Madden 96 franchise. Finished my my first year and I’m gonna relocate my Michael Vick led Texans after winning the Super Bowl with them. Where should I move them? Mexico City, Manhattan, or San Juan (Puerto Rico)?

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Fuck Madden 06, not 96 kek

Manhattan Bro...

Broncos haven't finished worse than 4-12 since 1973 which was a shortened season where they finished 2-7

They've only finished worse than the equivalent of 4-12 two times before than

>Slow motion is indicative of a defenders ability to stop

Can someone redpill me on the Browns? I live in NE Ohio and every maniac Browns fan I know has been overjoyed with excitement going fucking nuts. I don't follow this sport so I'm genuinely curious as to how "good" we're supposed to be.

Jones should be a day-1 starter.

The past 20ish years they've been absolutely abysmal. Dumpster fire train wreck. But last year they drafted Baker Mayfield and Nick Chubb who have been electric to say the least. I'm from the Akron area and I'm more excited about them this year than I was to lose my virginity honestly. They've been a 1-4 win team for so long and they finally look, on paper, to be primed to win 8, maybe more games. Which some people are equating to playoffs and a superbowl win. I'm optimistic but not delusional. I personally think they'll be a threat of a team no one can sleep on anymore, but they have a chance to actually do well

you cant mention Baker and Chubb and not mention OBJ, Garrett, Landry, Ward, and all other top talent theyve added in the past few years

> if they did this thing they didn't do, they'd certainly also do this other thing they didn't do

>2017 Jags would have destroyed the Eagles in the Super Bowl
I seriously doubt it

I think they have a very real chance of winning the division tbqh

berds

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go rams!

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i generally agree but i can see how foles "meme magic" wouldn't have activated against someone so low level like the faguars/bortlels.

what qb will you take next year?

>hes not a rams chad
big yikes haha.

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*wins the AFC South*

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Awoo is ours now.

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cringe

S-sorry, senpai

Shut up Old Bay

What did they do? Permaban your other trip?

>Me and Brady's Sixth Ring

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Lose weight.

Have sex

the obsession you two have for each other is fucking disgusting. get a room

>Rams
>Chad
Pick one, faggot.

Are the raiders tanking again this year?

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No, they are about to get stuck in the "too good to tank, not good enough to get anywhere" phase.

Don’t waste your breath, alt-right rams incels will never understand

the offence got better at RB and WR but their TE and O-line is arse and so is most of the defence. The schedule is fucked too iirc. Solid 5-11 season in the works

>yfw da bears win da superb owl

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What a shit list. Holy fuck

>Better at RB
You have to actually sign your 1st round RB to get better.

I could see Gruden putting Jacobs in the dog house this season just for pulling this one on the team.

I beg your pardon?

Realistically, how long would a lady kicker last in the league?

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If Rapinoe converted to kicking footballs, she would be the second best kicker all time behind only Gostkowski. Better than either Anderson, better than Tucker, and especially better than that filthy “haha I like Indiana and flyover better because I’m a dumbass Christian repulivxan redneck” traitor Vinatieri

I now see why you’re considered the most cancerous tripfag.

I agree, Old Bay is trash.

Is this really what bradys knee looks like? Fucking top kek

are you mentally unable to make posts that does not have random politics spliced in it, or are you just that upset?

Reverse image search shows its some shitty 9gag meme. Old Bay is a 9gagger. Embarrassing.

I do it to trigger inbreds like yourself.

you need to go outside and find someone who will have sex with you.

Not very. The first broken blocking assignment on a chip shot and one tackled kicker later, they’d ban women from the league in the wake of the death.

Until the first botchced play where she ends up hit or covered.

Jacobs is holding out because he knew he’s a bust in the making.
A recent history of Alabama running backs (1st or 2nd round):
2012 - Trent Richardson - bust
2013 - Eddie Lacy - bust
2015 - TJ Yeldon - career backup
2016 - Derrick Henry - looked like a bust until last season. Jury’s out. We will see if that was a fluke.
The Alabama running back meme hasn’t worked out since Mark Ingram was taken nearly a decade ago.

>you now remember Eagles legend Patrick Chung

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Who from the who?

Black goddesses love my dick. I can barely walk outside without getting some.

Does she handle kickoffs? Willl she be responsible for blocking or taclking the return man?

The moment she kicks, she has to run off the field and be replaced by a man

Let the punter handle kickoffs. I know VinaTRAITOR has his punter handle them since he’s a frail weakling. Let the kicker focus on her accuracy for field goals. That’s why I think Rapinoe would be amazing, she has insane accuracy and form. I bet her feet would feel really good to suck on, too.

>me and Brady’s Sixth Ring

You’re pathetic. Have sex. Women will NEVER playin the NFL

I miss Tony.

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I like him as a commentator.

Seattle Niggers

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what does his breath smell like bros

Ur sister's tits

fuck man

I really wanna suck his dick and swallow every last drop .

this 2010 meme still exists?

I was quoting Bradysknee verbatim. Looks like he deleted his comment because he made a mistake.

He was implying Trump was a pedophile by association with Epstein. But I said Trump banned him—he hated Epstein. He followed with that quote that the president of Mar-a-Lago didn’t comment on Trump banning Epstein as if that’s indicative of Trump’s guilt despite in his own quote mentioning court documents referring to the banning of Wpstein from Trump properties

TL;DR Bradyknee is genuinely dumb

>Tom Brady led Patriots have never defeated a Cam Newton led Panthers (the second best team of the decade)

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Say that to my face in the playoffs, nigger

Are you implying the Panthers don’t go to the playoffs?

No, they just lose to AFC teams if they even make it lol

russell wilson married an older woman with a another man's child

GOOD GUYS
>BILLS
>DOLPHINS
>RAVENS
>TITANS
>BRONCOS
>GIANTS
>REDSKINS
>BEARS
>CARDINALS

BAD GUYS
>PATRIOTS
>JETS
>BENGALS
>BROWNS
>STEELERS
>TEXANS
>COLTS
>JAGS
>CHIEFS
>CHARGERS
>RAIDERS
>COWBOYS
>EAGLES
>LIONS
>PACKERS
>VIKINGS
>FALCONS
>PANTHERS
>SAINTS
>BUCS
>RAMS
>49ERS
>SEAHAWKS

>trump banned this guy to cover his own trail, that means he’s innocent!
Genius

>trash teams good guys
>good teams and average teams bad guys

but the good guys have 5 2019-2020 playoff teams

>goalposts
But can Tom beat Cam? They seem pretty even ignoring raw TD earning potential

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Good guys
>Colts

Bad guys
>every other team

So, in your mind, he didn’t ban him from setting foot on his properties because he’s repulsed by Epstein’s behavior?

Panthers are good guys because we can pretend to be them to tease Pats fans that spam the thread

Eagles are good guys desu

/x/ would unironically love this conspiracy theory—you could get a lot of (You)s. You need more than conjecture though, so maybe wait a little for a scrap of evidence.

...

5 is your IQ, dumb shit.

Post fumble recovery stats

no i have a degree so realistically its at least 85

Under Newton, Carolina have a 50% playoff appearance rate in a Division with a Brees led New Orleans and a Ryan led Atlanta

Packers>Vikings>Lions

>Good guys
My team
>Bad guys
Your team

im the only mf alive who likes the titans uniforms
tits>colts>texans>jags

Saints>Falcons>Buccaneers

well lacy wasnt a bust from ability, just off field attitude

The Chicago Bears.

He ate too much China food

based
for me its bears>lions>vikings
packers bears best rivalry

A balding fraud and a choker. Nice. Don’t forget the 0% success rate in Superbowls.

can cam win a super bowl? brady already had three before cam got in the league, and another three since.

These guys are also factually correct

Car, stop shitposting in /nba/

Why do you hate Brees so much? Honest question and give me something more than hes a balding fraud and choker

Nah Matt Ryan is the choker not brees.

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I'll be the contrarian and say she'd make it through at least two or three hits until she falls wrong and gives herself a career-ending injury

Zach Ertz is cringe.

little boy pre-cum

this, kittle's the hot new meme

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that chicks nose though...
>would still inhale her from behind

THEM IOWA BOYS ARE BIG, FAST AND NASTY!

seriously though...keep an eye on Noah Fant and T.J. Hockenson...I don't know what the fuck they're feeding kids in Iowa, but these guys are all machines

VERY good post

This is just straight up wrong, one game at Camarohead will tell you that

Based and Ertzpilled

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So, after the catastrophic choke they had last season and considering the team is dissolving, what are your predictions for them next season?
I missed all the draft stuff so I don't know who the fuck they picked.

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JuJu, Moncrief, Washington...you guys are fine for receivers, quit being a whiney bitch

Steelers went through kemo in the offseason. I expect them to be playoff contenders this season without missing much of a step.

>you
Not a Stoolers fan M8

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Sometimes I wonder what would have happened last year had Rivera taken over defensive playcalling after the Pittsburgh game like he should have.

Did we really have to lose seven straight games? Is this franchise cursed to never have back-to-back winning seasons? Or was it all necessary to heighten the need to better protect Cam and make the defense younger?

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The Steelers could literally pick fry cook out of Primanti's to play on their roster and he'd go for at least 400 yards and three touchdowns each season. Their offense is automatic.

I thought Ben was washed and Tomlin was a bad coach (because black)

>the best 2 players on his team arent white
Lmao

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>Luke isn't playing with TD anymore

I miss him bros.

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10-6, could pip the Browns for the division, probably wild card

Ben throws multiple 400+ yard games a year...he's getting older and slower, but he still has plenty of game left in him. Tomlin being black has 0% relevancy to anyone who isn't a drooling brainlet that comes to four channel to plead anonymously for attention.

If Roethlisbergers and Eli switched O-Lines over the past several years, Eli would still be a top quarterback and Roethlisberger would probably be dead. Same with Brees.

Why have people fallen so hard for the Philip Lindsay meme when the Broncos' system has produced literally dozens upon dozens of one year wonders at running back?

The Broncos' run-blocking scheme is so foolproof that it actually kept Terrell Davis out of the Hall of Fame because the Broncos' rushing attack was so good after he retired that people started questioning whether or not he was as good as he seemed.

the good guys from each division (the rest aren't necessarily bad guys, they could be neutral too)
NFCN:
packers bears
NFCW:
rams 49ers
NFCE:
eagles giants
NFCS:
saints panthers
AFCN:
literally nobody, that division is either pitiful or dispicable
AFCE:
dolphins bills
AFCW:
chiefs broncos
AFCS:
colts jaguars

9-7
maybe wild card

Really made me think

NEW

"If" means fuckall in reality.