/nba/ General - The Thread That Aired When Kawhi Stayed Edition

*blocks your path*

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Long live the walls we crashed through
All the kingdom lights shined just for me and you
I was screaming, "long live all the magic we made"
And bring on all the pretenders
One day we will be remembered

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Hey, LeBron: Can you imagine Michael Jordan desperately maneuvering to acquire an Anthony Davis - THEN even more desperately pursuing the guy who has now won 2 Finals MVPs and 2 Defensive Players of the Year??? No, MJ DID NOT NEED OR WANT TWO OTHER TOP-FIVE PLAYERS.

lol u ain't been thru shit, I once locked myself in my bedroom on accident, and I started paniccing because i ate all my nightstand food stash the night before, turns out my foot was blocking the door when i was trying to open it

wilt would be the undesputed GOAT if he didn't retire early because he as bored of winning

The 30 for 30 will be lit

Can someone explain to me what the Knicks are doing? If they couldn't pull in any max free agents why are they nuking their cap space on bit role players?

Sounds like a Manowar song

You know they lost two of those three Finals to the Knicks, right? And the Lakers had an equally stacked squad

If MJ was 35 and got traded to a shitty Knicks team yeah I can see him doing that

How the fuck does your door not open with your foot blocking it? Does it open from the outside or some shit?

The Warriors are gonna take a pretty big hit in defense. Maybe bottom 5 in the league.

Boy you're up for a surprise

youtube.com/watch?v=2frTDb7JFBA

they signed them all to two year deals i think most of them 1 and 1's so they will have cap space for gianiis but also not tank so they don't look like shit, bascically what the nets did

nobody who actually watches basketball was alive back then so we don't really know. All we can go by is the numbers which say Wilt is GOAT

Didn't Lebron choose to come to LA?

looks like morey is waiting for all the smoke to clear to make his trade

Numbers?

basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1973-nba-finals-knicks-vs-lakers.html

zaza pachulia is still available

by far the best stats of anyone on the court at age 36. GOAT

The Nets had no incentive to tank; they owed all those picks to Boston. NY has all their future first-rounders iirc

But they signed Randle for three; that's $20M less in space when Giannis hits free agency.

speaking of, where the fuck did wiltposter go? i miss him triggering zoomers by posting picks of wilt dunking all over niggas

Jared Dudley was determined to play with LeBron James and Anthony Davis on the Lakers. He recruited them. @JaredDudley619 makes his case to Kawhi Leonard on The Woj Pod. Listen here:

banned into the shadow realm by based larry

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Note his (same) man getting the FMVP twice in the span of three finals, retired because he was winning too much huh?

BASED

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Dudley really thinks hes getting a ring next season

are we getting kawhi news tomorrow morning

he averaged 16/5/5. would like to know what the people giving him FMVP were thinking. Probably the same reasoning Iggy got a FMVP in 2015 despite lebron deserving it "You held wilt to less than 20 rebounds, you deserve FMVP"

>Kawhi stays with Rapties. Rapties relocate to LA.

reasonable compromise?

Numbers say LeBron is the GOAT because he has the best numbers in the most talented era.

Yeah, had nothing to do with walking back on the court with an injury or anything and still somehow keeping the so called GOAT from averaging even 15ppg in either series? He's the GOAT because he rebounded while his team lost? I guess Drummond is the GOAT

based

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Is it acceptable to watch games without sound/commentating? Or to really watch, do you need it? Reminder, that fans who go to the arena's don't get commentating or even the players themselves.

what say you /nba/?

Fans that go to the game just use their phone the whole time

youre autisic arent you? do whatever you want m8, not like you got friends to watch with anyways kek

commentating is more annoying than anything. especially reggie miller or mark jackson

>not cweeb

someone text me once the /moo/shits leave

wilt would have fucking destroyed shaw. even prime shaw vs old no-knees geriatric wilt

UHHHHH............ BROS????????????????????

WHY IS JARED DUDLEY ALLOWED TO FORM A SUPER ULTRA TEAM?????????????

I do it all the time

i miss derozan. Derzon era was soul soul vs we are now in the souless era

Reminder wilt is the only person who avg 30-30 in a playoff run and most likely had ten blocks per game

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just asking because I just want to watch the game, but like I don't want to miss out on cheeky information or insider shit. but at the same time, I just want to watch the players hoop without all the talk, really just enjoy the game and hear all the talk post game. I want to optimize my NBA experience is all.

>wiltposter is back
my penis is fully erect

how many 100 point games does lebron have?

based foot

LeBron doesn't play against substitute math teachers

Wilt never played elite comp, he had the benefit of always being the tallest, largest and no player he ever played against was nearly as athletic. If he played in the modern era where the talent pool is larger and the players are better he would never dominate, he'd be more like Willie Callie Stein or a more raw (could not convert an acceptable percentage of free throws, especially in the playoffs) Javale McGee.

Don't kill yourself when he doesn't skelly

>Said I moved the goalposts

You put up a artificial or false equivalency by equating NFL players and the rest of the entire population for starters. So dont be talking about moving them goalposts with that bullshit.

It's fair to compare millionaires with other millionaires. I think.

Then you come out with the excuses (moving them goalposts I see) left and right as to why a person (from the ghetto) would try to kill (Aaron Hernandez) Rape (Darren Sharper Kellen Winslow Jr) Abuse his child (Adrian Peterson Tyreek Hill) Beat his wife (Ray Rice Tyreek Hill Kareem Hunt Greg Hardy lol this list goes for awhile).

It is what it is man. Black people try to be athletes it's part of their culture their testosterone levels run high because of it and it really shouldn't surprise people when you see guys like that do crazy shit. Asian and Indian people try to be doctors and get into the tech industry and sometimes aren't very fond of toilets. White people try to lead and run for office because were......naturally born lying cock suckers. I dont know what to tell ya. Like I said it is what it is.

Yo is Devin Booker a top 10 player ever?

Every generation the skill gap between players closes. There will never be a naturally born player of MJ or Wilts caliber that can completely surpass the competition. That’s actually why super teams are being formed. The level of competition is so high that the best players simply cannot do it on their “own” like it used to be possible. You guys get what I’m trying to say?

>Wilt never played elite comp
nigger, Wilt locked prime 35ppg Kareem the fuck down when he was 35 (Kareem was an inch taller)

GOAT really comes down to what you value most out of a player.

long fruitful career: Kareem
winning chips: Bill Russell
best stats: wilt
fundamentals: duncan
scoring: kobe/jordan
theoretically best overall package: lebron
shooting: curry
peak performance: shaq

there's really like 8-9 GOATS

replace curry with booker and the warriors win in 2016 and 2019

One thing people don't get about Wilt is he played shorter players, less athletic players, and whiter players on average. There's no individual anecdote to argue with objective fact, players in every sport across the world have gotten bigger, stronger and faster except basketball.

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Why did the NBA veto the CP3 to lakers trade? I feel like we never got an explanation for that

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>GOAT conversation

*Blocks your path*

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Too bad wilt would murder little fat shaq

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Why is Kobe listed under scoring when both Jordan and Lebron outscored him and did so more efficiently with less FGAs? I hate this whole "GOATs" thing or who is your "personal GOAT." Nigga it's greatest of all time, don't be mad cause Kobe's chucking ass isn't in the conversation at all.

Kobr should be listed under marketing tbqh

kobe's only in the conversation for lakersfags. i have respect for him playing wise but he was a total chucker.

What is this question even? Most bars, restaurants, etc. have multiple sports playing and audio of maybe one. Personally, the only time I "have to" listen to audio and commentary is when my teams are playing in a very important game. It adds to my sweating bullets, and occasionally there are extremely good calls that are just as memorable as the moment.

chumimin

Why would Kawhi leave if Marc Gasol committed to staying? Doesn't it mean Marc knows something? :0

Shaq would laugh at him and flash his rings like he does Ernie, Wilt would have to have two careers to accomplish what Shaq did. GOAT with one Finals MVP against 6'6 white centers?

WTF putting Jordan as second fiddler under "scorer" Hes the fucking GOAT end of story. Had his gambling not derailed years of his career he would have even more championships nobody was stopping them bulls teams. Hell Pippen by himself almost dragged them to the promise land.

the meme shot has truly equalized the playing field. Now even the worst NBA players can shoot 3's at 30% at least, which means guys that can actually outmuscle and outskill the competition can just lose to 3 point chucking anyway. You have to be REALLY good to stand out in today's chucking no defense era

Jordan was far better at marketing. Jordan at his peak was huge, he was the most popular athlete in the world. everyone knew he was the best, even people who don't care about basketball. Kobe never reached that level

>The level of competition is so high that the best players simply cannot do it on their “own” like it used to be possible.
Hmm, how many Hall of Famers are on those Bill Russell Celtics teams? Shit, look at those Larry Bird Celtics teams? Let's not even talk about the Showtime Lakers, Kareem won 5 MVPs before Magic was drafted. When were players doing it on their "own?"

that, or they're not trying hard enough on the mental aspect of the game, you listen to all the old players like kobe, jordan, and even boston players (hate them btw go lakers) it's all about the MENTAL aspect of the game, 90% mental, 10% physical.

All you hear today from these players today is my body this and my body that, while that is important, that's a big factor IMO why they think they can't do it themselves. Plus imo i don't think enough work is being put in the off-season by younger players, or even modern players, too many distractions and, like i've said before, they get paid too much based on potential, makes them lazy. See:D'lo

look at how he did a huge 180 after getting the boot out of LA, he did some time in Brooklyn and now is with the memes possibly going to do something over there.

>It's fair to compare millionaires with other millionaires. I think.
You haven't presented any data on on millionaire domestic abuse stats, and it really makes no sense to compare 22 year old athletes with 60 year old doctors, but OK.
>because were......naturally born lying cock suckers
Ahhh now I see, you're one of those weird self depreciating types who dislikes blacks on one hand but is also an anti white cuckold who loves to discuss the NBA and thinks about his own race in terms of sucking dick. Good to know.

Foolish Canadian peasants

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>hall of famers

anyone can make the hall of fame. In fact, if you're carried to the finals every year you WILL make the hall regardless of whether you're good or not just because you made the finals a lot

>makes them lazy. See:D'lo
Nigga how is D'lo the example when we haven't even seen him after having get paid? Wiggins is a way better example, literally promised the owner he'd work harder if they paid him when they met.

That’s why I put it in quotations

Should I clarify first ballot? Those teams were outrageously stacked even by today's standards, you have Dennis Johnson as the guy nobody can remember the name of in the Celtics starting lineup as though he hadn't won FMVP for another franchise just two years before going to the Celtics. Or Bill Walton who won MVP and FMVP with another franchise before going to the Celtics bench? Guys like Rick Carlisle and Pat Riley did not get inducted for being on the bench of some competitive teams. It has always been like this sans one decade when the ABA was stealing away half the all star team.

Don't kill yourself of disbetes from overeating you overweight piece of shit

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>you're one of those weird self depreciating types who dislikes blacks on one hand but is also an anti white cuckold who loves to discuss the NBA and thinks about his own race in terms of sucking dick. Good to know.
Which it's fine do whatever you want, but why do people like this always come to the /nba/ thread to share their race related observations like this is some shit we've never seen before and immediately need to drop the NBA discussion to talk about?

"Michael just remember you got benched in the 92 finals because u selfishly tried to win the game by yourself. U then watched pippen with the bench players go on take the lead"

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RBL consolidation would be reaching dangerous levels

ok, bad example, but the point is that they're mentally weak, i'd say off the top of my head 85%-90% of the league is weak minded.

I always reference this video when it comes to young players and how they develop not only in terms of the game but mentally which affects how they compete (killer instinct)

youtube.com/watch?v=hRaRERVPk4M

So they get all these fat contracts and sponsorships from the get go while old heads had to play their asses off to be recognized because the game was rougher back then, not as advanced.

Basically, what Im trying to say is, they're being led to believe they're better than they actually are and it makes them lazy and it negatively affects their game, and their level of competitiveness and we get guys who think they can't do it on their own and as a result, super-teams. Thank goodness kawhi is making an argument against that by winning one in his own (in a weak conference) but that's another story.

You do realize theres more to it than what this user posted?

The game of basketball was played much differently not just in the rules but the general playstyle was extremely different than today's game.

The players would not run ANY plays really and would try to get a or really ANY shot up. Even if it's 4 seconds into a possession (I dont think they had a shot clock) and it's highly contested. And this wild and breakneck speed of basketball lead to players getting massive amounts of rebounds. And if you know ANYTHING about Wilt it's HIS height and wingspan. Throw in alot of short unathletic players and you get Wilt Chamberlain ridiculous stats. Take Hassan Whiteside and send him to Wilt's era where your Point Guard smokes a half a pack of cigarettes at halftime and 90% of the players diet consists of lasagna and beer and people are chucking mad shots all game. He'd do the same thing.

Now Wilt is great because he opened the door for players like him. That I will absolutely give him.

too bad this retard can't lead a team or play defense to save his life
nets are fucked

L

I've decieded to kill myself, I just took 100 skilttles, i'll see you bruhs on the otherside

anyone else find kawhi really cute

Oh I agree with you I just thought Wiggins was the go to example for this type of thing. You have a guy who is the most physically talented player any time he takes the court and does not excel at one basketball related skill after five years with a pro organization and playing under Butler who he could supplant if he worked hard.

jordan was an unmarketable douche until spacejam transformed his image

nah he probably tortured animals as a child

Yeah, he kinda reminds me of the pepefrog

what the fuck are you talking about? he was making millions before he won a single finals. he was being name dropped in rap and was world famous before he even won a ring.

>curry was flying from shanghai to NY to recruit KD
>didn't make it before KD announced with the nets
>met KD to say goodbye anyway
kek

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Never forget LeBron James is a better basketball player than Michael Jordan

making millions outside of the NBA*

You understand the Jordan sneaker brand became its own distinct thing in the 80s, right? Michael Jordan's popularity resulted in Space Jam not the other way around. Why the fuck would you give some irrelevant basketball player a movie investment?

Idk what's up with wiggins, 6'8'', all they asked him to do was rebound more iirc. Looking at last seasons stats, he didn't even shoot that well which is what he's know for baka.

41%FG, 33.9%3PT, and 69.9%FT. with only 4.8 rebounds ,it's like bro, GRAB THE BALL lol.

I'd support trading hm if I was a wolves fan.

>I'd support trading hm if I was a wolves fan.
Tantamount to supporting trading Chandler Parsons as a Grizzlies fan

They've been trying to trade him for the last 2 weeks and nobody will take him. It's why they missed out on dlo. Dude has one of the worst contracts in the league

he cute

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they're giving over the hill lebron a movie and most zoomers don't even know who he is

I was making a joke. I made one about each race to make it fair, fuckface and I see you like the rest of the left have no sense of humor to go with that lack of common sense and you guessed it. Intelligence.

Are you sure you want me to bring up millionaires Vs Football player crime statistics? I dont want to embarrass you more than what's necessary.

Also I think it's fair to assume those stats would show NFL players DO commit a much higher amount of crime than let's say hedge fund managers or hell even the players own agents. Or are you really that ignorant as to believe or think otherwise? Or are YOU gonna move the goalposts AGAIN and try to dice it up statistically to match your narrative once again?

Zoomers are the only ones that like Lebron, or favor him rather. Space Jam 2 was as inevitable as Toy Story 4 or Star Wars 4 though, outstanding majority of summer blockbusters are gonna be remakes, reboots or adaptations. When Michael did it there was some some (albeit admittedly minimal) risk involved, new property and all.

>Star Wars 4
you better be memeing b/c episode IV is the first fucking one

Yeah, it was called Star Wars 4 when it came out in theaters because they knew they were gonna make five more three of them being prequels filmed twenty years later

How do I stop being depressed?

Look at all those QBs and centers and kickers and punters.

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be yourself :)

join a championship team

it's called white privilege homie

get off the internet

Find something to live or die for. It's as simple as that. People live and die for their kids or friends or whatever. Find whatever it is or whomever it is.

youtube.com/watch?v=pqHm-KkWR88

i die for my depression

>these bots who posts the same shitty questions in every thread

He's fast!

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I do NOT understand how and why Jeff Green keep signing these 1 year deals for the minimum. This is now 3 years in a row. He’s never injured, He’s never been a problem in the locker room, He’s athletic, he can shoot the 3, he can guard multiple positions and he’s not old .

I'd rather get (you)'d than give (you)'s

DO YOU KNOW WHAT MY FUCKING DAD DOES

You?

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desperately single

I'm a wolves fan, and maybe I'm just in cope mode, but can someone explain to me why Wiggins is so deplored? Yeah, he's not living up to the standards of a #1 pick, but he has potential and is scoring. Sure, he's not worth the max contract that he has, but he's better than someone like Gorgui Dieng who for some reason got 15 million this season to come off the bench for 10 minutes a game at 29 years old. At least Wiggins has potential. There were some games this year where he came out and performed like an all-star (look at the games vs. OKC). He *can* do it. I'm willing to put some faith in the dude and hope that Saunders can push him over the edge.

It was kinda funny when Garnett interviewed him & KAT and Garnett gave Wiggins shit for not making the all-star game. I can't help but think that this is all starting to get to Wiggin's head.

dubs and kawhi stays to win 3 straight tiles

>Help! My pregnant wife has fallen ill! And it also appears someone spit on her! Those dastardly dogs!

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if he stopped being a bum he'd unironically be Jordan-tier

>You're a bitch and you know you're a bitch. Leave.

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anthony bennet shot 45% from three last G league season

It's always darkest before the dawn. Dark times are coming to an end user. Go Lakers.

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>5 years in the leauge
>potential

that boat has sailed user, he is what he is.

never heard that, could be a players association thing

the last couple big contracts he signed he got hurt

Why d'ya say that? Because of his build/genetics? I'd be happy if he was comparable to Sprewell, forgetting the possibility of Jordan. At least Sprewell had heart when he played for the T-Wolves. If Wiggins had the heart of Sprewell they wouldn't miss the playoffs. Now even D-Rose is gone to instigate some goddamn passion in these fuckers. Instead they signed 4 fucking literal whos.

he wants to get a big contract. basically banking on trying to improve enough that he can get one somewhere. risky because injuries can always happen

Because he could be elite at every aspect of basketball if he actually cared outside of creating for others. He is the most talented person to step on the court 99% of the time he plays. Dude just doesn't give a fuck. No hustle, no effort, and no heart

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usually freakishly big people or things look ordinary without a reference point. nope, kawhis finger is just twice as big as it should be. did someone shop that image

He needs someone to coach him properly. I think it fair to call him "delicate". He needs a coach like Phil Jackson too bad he's really old and retired. With his personality he would know how to push him without rubbing him the wrong way. That's his current problem. His motor. It goes very high then very low. And it appears he's not someone who responds to well to criticism or hard coaching. I wouldn't say Phil is soft but he's very mellow I guess and would know how to handle him I think.

Long story short, he needs a new coach or a change of scenery.

>yfw wiltposter is also sparkshit spammer

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>Green called Durant a “bitch” multiple times, sources said. In a summarized version, sources said Green shouted, “You’re a bitch and you know you’re a bitch.” The rhetoric, sources said, continued even when Kerr attempted to direct the team’s attention to his whiteboard.

>But what ultimately led to Green’s suspension, sources said, was a remark in which he dared Durant to bolt in free agency next summer. Durant has a player option for the 2019-20 season, and the Warriors want their superteam intact for the opening of their new arena, the Chase Center, in San Francisco next season.

>Green blurted to Durant something along the lines of, “We don’t need you. We won without you. Leave,” sources said.

Did Drayboon know?

You realize that 5 years into Steph Curry's career he was relatively unknown & got knocked out by the Clippers in the first round?

After what ayesha says on these talk shows, I don't doubt she fucks with some locker room dudes.

not everyone can chuck like curry

I think it funny that he low key destroyed this "dynasty" if you wanna call it that.

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lol based, fuck steph curry.

he's securing his future most likely. they can't all get paid

curry had great efficiency ever since he stepped in the league. He just stayed injured

what are you guys skincare routine like

>imploring

I'm still confused how you're able to make the judgement between talent & hustle/effort/heart. If you can, please educate me; I've only gotten into the NBA (sports in general) in the last 2 years.

What do you think of Ryan Saunders as an influence, then? I mean, based on what your saying, the hardass Thib (& obviously Butler as well) was a bad fit for Wiggins. Saunders is the youngest head coach in the league now. Do you think that he can distill Wiggins' essence into numbers, or is he too timid? Obviously Saunders can't compare to Phil, but Saunders seems mellow compared to Thib.

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i wash my face with two scrubs in the shower

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what the fuck is this lighting

>Dont touch your face
>Dont pop zits
>Wash face before bed and after
>Wash face after working out or any sweating
>Dont eat or drink shit that has sugar at least as much
>Drink more water
>Add more vitamin c into your diet

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I hope Lakers get Iguodala.

>curry beats lebron 3 times
>g-guys remember the one time lebron beat curry

>he is literraly latrell sprewell incarnate

iggy revenge on warriors tour?

>"curry beats LeBron 3 times"

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wiggins would be a stud playing for the warriors

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season sweep, then he gets a sweet chase-down block in the WCF on klay or curry or something lmao.

>this cavaliers fan having a nostalgia session itt

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i'll stop, sorry

>implying curry single handedly beat lebron when he never even won finals mvp once

nah its okay. one thing i remember from the 2016 finals is that Game 4 ending. legit felt like lebron had a mental breakdown and was about to punch steph curry

night losers

Stop. Let's not discuss. They were already reminded.

Look at his stats, look at his advanced stats, look at his history, and most importantly watch him play. Dude is a ghost most of the time he's in the game. The guy with the godly frame, runs the fastest, jumps the highest, and can get to the rim at will vanishes for large stretches of the game while being a mediocre-bad defender. Butler was losing sleep at night watching this guy waste his god given talent

This isn't even factoring in that cancerous contract

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>single handily in a team sport
Tell me some championships Lebron won without teammates

The third year on Randles contract is a team option

I-uh...that's honestly a good point, Perk. I'm surprised.

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It's too early to tell. But what I know about him is encouraging. I wouldn't take it to the bank but I think you have the best fit for him as a coach maybe in his whole basketball life. I have Wiggins down for a huge bounce back year. Anyone that doesn't trade for him (his contract) will regret that come this season. I think he's hearing all this noise and is ready to do something about it. There are a few people I follow that know the situation in Minnesota and all signs have been encouraging not just on him but KAT too.

The Wolves should have gone for a shooter like Reddick to help space the floor and for the love of all things holy he needs to only play the 2. He is not strong or big enough for the 3 spot. That's why he struggles with rebounds in my opinion. If you wanna look at it from a pure basketball perspective that kind of stuff would absolutely help too.

Knicks weren’t getting Giannis, but will have cap for him if they manage to turn it around by that time.

R E M I N D E R

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That’s a pretty good point, Iggy probably got too uppity talking back though and also didn’t sacrifice his Achilles in a Finals series.

What’s the deal do these websites just scour fucking reddit? I swear every time I’ve tried to talk hoop there I just get lost in the sea of comments, even at like 2am.

he literally isnt signing with the raptors until the last day possible. love this lil nigga

they'll probably retire all 5 warriors players numbers

why though?

There's honestly some good discussion there occasionally, seeing as they have the team flairs and nobody can hide around anonymous BS/Bias. Their website formatting sucks though.

Man I hope that is true.

Do you think Kawhi will announce his decision tomorrow morning? Is he in Toronto now?

Because Lakers aren't contenders with ad + LeBron + scrubs

do the warriors not realize you retire numbers after their career is over

I don’t doubt it I just can’t keep up with the faster moving site. It’s legit anxiety inducing when you refresh the page and you have like six responses to your comment all like fifteen minutes old that you’ll never get back to. Good for discussion but I like to mostly ramble here about hoop rather

He's going to the fucking Lakers isn't he?

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>I use reddit

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The assists don't surprise me but I'm shocked at that rebounding stat. Hell even Steve Nash had more games with at least ten boards.

Any good lesbian crime drama recommendations?

at this point I don't give a shit anymore. I'm tired of the media circus around him. I just want him to hurry the fuck up already, there are no more good bench players anymore, and you just know Danny green wont sign here if kawhi doesnt.

Why is the NBA talent pool so shallow lately? Where are the Dominique Wilkins, Don Buse’s, the Happy Hairston’s, Dan Issels, the hot rod Hundleys?

Is it just the expansion era? I swear every team used to have an entire bench

So let's say your a Knicks fan. And you get Randle for nothing. This is a guy that put up what? 21/9 shot the 3 well. He was the most interesting free agent because he showed up last year big time and looked like the top pick he was. And keep in mind your a Knicks fan that has had almost no real talent on the roster until recently. Then you start to think about guys like Knox and Dennis Smith Jr and Mitchell Robinson and his defensive capabilities not only as a obvious shot blocker the way he moves his feet so well for a big man. And you draft RJ Barrett. Factor in Fizdale as the coach.

Why with all that young talent why would you care that KD and whoever didn't sign with you?

Mulholland Drive, unironically.

kevin knox is unironically better than dominique wilkins

talent wise nba is better than never

Remaining FA's under 28: Jabari, KCP, Stanley Johnson, Hollis-Jefferson, TJ McConnel, Trey Burke, Sam Dekker, Nik Stauskas, Wayne Seldon

why do idiots keep memeing this? like, the lakers were gonna win the championship by pissing 80% of their remaining space away on JJ reddick instead?

There’s never been so little talent in the NBA. Three healthy stars for 30 teams?

Nigga who in the fuck is about to get a shot off with kawhi davis and lebron all on the court at once. Teams better start jacking up shots at the half court line because aint no way anyones driving in on if them 3 fucks are all out at once

goddamn lakers got goku, vegeta and broly

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Shit a lineup of Bron, AD and competent role players that can hit open shots beats Bron, AD and legitimate G leaguers and guys that had been playing overseas.

Rare MJ picture

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They were the 4th seed when Lebron got hurt last year. AD is better by miles then the guys they traded for him. And Kyle Kuzma is a perfect fit next to AD and a highly underrated player in general.

Kawhi is the only one out of the 3 who plays defense

Richard Jefferson coming out of retirement cause Lakers couldnt get Kawhi fucking kek

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the knicks got a lot of good talent, that's not their problem, they got a nice little rebuild going on over there. It's there stupid owner and front office that's the turn off. All the mistakes and bad image (throwing out former players) and bad signings. And how they handled the whole Melo thing. Get rid of that and show that your have a competent coaching staff, and it'll turn around quickly. Look at brooklyn. They are going to have to be patient or learn how to develop like SA does. KD would have brought more drama, wait for the new crop of stars blossom.

I almost forgot MJ plays golf, probably the first athlete to transcend race

Okay this Kawhi defense meme has gone too far

>Any good lesbian crime drama recommendations?

Rachel "I have a boy's haircut and a Adams Apple" Maddow show

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if she became republican then they would absolutely love her

OJ really

The Jazz looking stacked now. How will they fuck it up?

Well it’s exactly that; a conglomerate of Frank Ntilikina, Kevin Knox, Elfrid Payton and Dennis Smith Jr all being coached by noted con man David Fizdale and with the ball mostly being in Julius Randle’s hands (who just had a big contract year), that makes me nervous

thx leaf

Derrick Favors in the starting lineup with Rudy Gobert

KAWHI LEONARD IS OVERRATED.
I don't know why people rank him so damn high. People think he's better than Curry, and some till think he's better than KD. I hear people saying he's a HOF if he retired today, and all that bs. He'll never rank higher than KD OR CURRY ON THE ALL-TIME LIST. Hell Kawhi aint even better than Harden, but to think a guy who had only ONE ELITE SEASONS. WILL RANK BE A TOP 20 PLAYER OF ALL TIME IS FUCKING ABSURD, AND BLASPHEMY. I'M TELL YOU THIS NOW. ONLY PLAYERS WHO ENTER TOP 20 OF ALL TIME ARE PLAYERS WHO PLAYED ELITE LITERALLY SINCE ROOKIE SEASON.

Good feedback. Thanks fer the info and talk, anons. I'm trying to learn how to talk intelligently about basketball (living in AZ so the Suns aren't even worth talking about yet) and I appreciate the education.

I see what yer saying about him being a ghost most games. I'll be following & hopefully will provide intelligent comments in future threads; just as I hope Wiggins will provide intelligent play in Wolves games.

Aye dont be talking about Fiz like that. He's a good coach.

I rewatched the whole finals as nbatv was reairing it and there is no goddamn kawhi should have won that mvp

Bro vanvleet and Lowry were doing some of the most clutch shit ever in a finals. Lowry literally made the warriors defense do what he wanted them 80% of the time and just made draymond and steph dumb af

You're browsing reddit too?

fizdale is a solid coach, better than average desu

Kawhi is not that good historically, somewhere between guys like George McGinnis and Connie Hawkins, but a weak era and collusion easily make him the most vital free agent this summer. When you only have two teams building up to contend it makes a big difference where a top 20 (active) player signs

there's a great clip on twitter where they inbounded the ball to vanvleet and curry ran over to livingston and signaled him to take him up on D. fucking hilarious

literally just make two awards finals MVP and playoffs MVP

and a lineup of bron, AD, kawhi and literal G leaguers is better than both of those

it's a dumb risk and they probably won't get kawhi but if they do get him it's better than anything else they can build

maybe they miss on kawhi and just sign a bunch of cheapos anyway and try to use space to absorb some midseason surprise waivers/trades

yup. only fairweathers would really care if kawhi left. amazing how fast people forget the raptors were a 1 seed without Kawhi.

Cousins will be starting for Lakers if kawhi doesn't come.

Siakam, Gasol, Vanvleet, Ibaka, and Danny Green aren't getting open shots if Kawhi isn't there.

>AZ

I'm sorry about that the Suns they are awful and John McCain......at least God has term limits. When people told me he had brain cancer. I said you couldn't tell by his voting record?

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favors has been traded

Miami got Tyler Herro and Meyers Leonard. They might as well get Parsons and trade for K Love while they're at it.

retarded take mate. not worth a reply honestly

>Meyers "Justin Bieber But Dropping 20ppg" Leonard is now on the Heat
what the fuck, since when

6’9
7’ wingspan
Regularly locks down best perimeter player on the opposite team including Harden last year

Why should I be worried about the Knicks again when this kid is finally healthy and only 20 years old?

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You now remember Tyler hansborough

Cousins would probably get 8 million from them. No one wants Cousins right now.

Niggalina isn't 6'9", he's 6'6" and he's a worse shooter than MKG

for some reason the blazers decided to trade for whiteside

If you just look at the eye test, Kawhi plays the most efficient game of any superstar ever.
he takes the most high percentage shots, fouls the least, can score a lot of points without relying on free throws, but can still draw fouls when it matters, his 1 on 1 defense and team defense is elite, and most of all, he's low ego and clearly took Popovich's teachings about team basketball and balancing basketball and life.

Honestly, he should have 4 rings right now, he should have won in 2013 if not for Ray Allen bailing out LeBron, and he would have won in 2017 if Zaza pachulia didn't goon on him.

Despite all of that, Kawhi is the most underappreciated superstar in the NBA, rarely do you ever see him in the GOAT discussion, or in the Greatest player on the planet discussion, and that's just sad.

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I wish Nurkic was healthy enough to beat up on the Nuggets last year

Why actually did they do that? They'll have Nurkic back, Leonard will expire soon enough, and Collins looks to be a promising big.

Thank you Blazers btw

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Boooooooii, you're on shaky ground. Don't even start insulting McCain. I'm not that enthusiastic about politics, but McCain is an Arizonan hero.

Whiteside goes off the books next year and his 20mil can easily be waived by another team at the deadline. They get some early rim protection and rebounding and a trade chip to go get Julius Randle

Doesn't he have a player option after this season though?

>"Draymond green is the best defender in the NBA"
nigger, draymond green let meyers fucking leonard drop 30 on them in the playoffs lmfao

>Lakers have a meeting
>everything leaks the moment it ends, rumors being made up, ESPN circlejerking the lakers

>Clippers have a meeting
>Steve Ballmer pays reporters (Woj) to say the Clippers are the favorites

>Raptors have the last meeting
>nothing leaks, no rumors, ESPN still circlejerking the Lakers

Ya I'm thinking Kawhi stays

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No

What you thanking them for? Y’all still ass

it's either him or another year of chandler/mcgee

How did both legendary franchises get worse?

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Hey he sealed his fate as the selfish neocon he was when he killed the bill that would have killed Obamacare. I'm a Republican and I just couldn't take anymore betrayal from him. Great war hero and the Democrats annual MVP.

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lebron was only a slight downgrade from jordan hill

*Blocks your path*

*Hits game winner*

Nothing personal kid.

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based retard

Yes getting swept by everyone and their dog in the playoffs so much soul

thoughts on the blazers fa? i feel like they lost everyone lol.

no kanter, evan turner, meyers leonard, moe harkless, seth curry and aminu

added whiteside and kent bazemore

DeRozan carried us to the ECF and signed a max contract the second free agency started....

*hits game winner*
*crowd goes wild*
>another perfectly .500 season for the Heat, tremendous effort from Jimmy Butler here folks 50pts here in the single point triple OT victory over the Knicks
>and remember Florida playoff basketball lives here on TNT when your Orlando Magic face off against the Bucks Tuesday night

it was kino to see two chokers

heat announcers are top 3 in the league desu

If only Wiggins had seen this clip fuuuuck

>r-retard!
lol

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1. You're willing to discard McCain's entire service to his country because Gen. Bone Spurs tells you to?
2. You're going to criticize a dying man for refusing to repeal a common-sense, centrist law (that is considered right-wing in most developed countries) that provided basic medical care for millions of Americans while essentially asking the minimum from people who didn't care about health care? What about the ACA is even worth protesting? It's so basic.

This isn't even left-right shit; this is common sense shit.

Lillard
Mccollum
Hood
Layman/Collins
Nurkic

bench: bazemore, whiteside, rookie, skal labissiere

these niggas not making the playoffs lol

How’s that go?

>Be a game away from making playoffs
>Dump bad contracts and cancerous players
>Acquire a top 10 player and certified closer in Jimmy Butler
>Somehow this doesn't add anything to the team in the eyes of someone with fetal alcohol syndrome

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Knickerbockers basketball club

With Pop coaching him, Derozan choked less in the playoffs. I do think he messed up in game 7. I think it might be mental or bad habit from bad coaching with the Rapties.

He added five wins, two of his own and the three to replace D Wade. That’s substantial improvement, Heat get to pick a combo guard (6’4) role player around 14th as they’re used too.

hoo boy, i just heard someone itt call jimmy beavis & buttler a top 10 player

I think Dominique Wilkins shot a little better than 37% from the field

James Butler is not a top 10 player dumbass

Kawhi was carried in game 6 of the finals not gonna lie. Obviously they wouldn't have been there without him but that was an awful game for him. Vanvleet also went 5/10 from three and then a random chuck put him at 5/11

will the wizards retired arenas jersey?

In what world is Jimmy Butler top ten? Are you telling me the 76ers has two top ten players on their roster and someone forgot to tell them during the playoffs?

No lmao.

what players did the heat lose? did they keep derrick jones?

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A completely average team

and who the fuck do you think is the 2nd top10 player on the sixers? Because they don't have any.

embiid

Atleast they have Brady and whatever Dominican/Puerto Rican plays for the Sox.

Where’d Danny go so wrong?

Kanter is in boston now?

this has been on more teams than dicks asa akira has seens

guffaw

What do you expect? Them niggas just had been through hell fighting against the 2 toughest teams in The East. Kawhi just locked down a 6'11'' wall of muscle. He barely limped out that series alive and then he has to face one of the strongest teams in NBA history. He did this with an injury and still managed to light up the scoreboard.

Embiid

I have no sacred cows. He was a war hero. Then the second he stepped back onto American soil he stated turning into a typical slimy politican.

Obama forced Obamacare onto the American people this is a right vs left thing, no Republicans voted for it. If he liked Obamacare so much he should have voted for it when they passed it originally. He didnt care about Obamacare he wanted to stick it up Trumps ass. That shit affected my bank account homie and still does. If he was the bigger man he would have done not only what's right for his party but what's right for the country. He proved not only was he a liar but he also proved he was a very small man at that exact moment in time. He campaigned on repealing and replacing Obamacare for christ sakes! Fuck him and his shoulders.

he's not top10 lmao

What else could he have done?

Kyrie never wanted to be in Boston for the long-term and its stupid to pay Al Horford $20+ mil a year with his age.

The only wrong thing he's done is give Gordon Hayward a bajillion dollars for one fluke season in Utah.

Who are some players who had bad hair their whole career?

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okc legend kyle singler

>What else could he have done?
His homework, Kyrie was leaving a perennial finals team that had won a title because he wanted his own team and was giving teammates the silent treatment. Should have never brought the uppity buck into the impressionable locker room while trading back the Celtics locker room leaders (except Horford.) He never put Horford in position to be his most successful in Boston, next to a traditional center. Comically Gasol who has been linked to the Celtics for years cost the Raptors absolutely nothing

Drafted a lot of average players.

Kawhi. Like cornrolls in 2019??

How to miss a boat before the boat actually arrived, by Danny Ainge

He can close. He can stop your best player. And can average 20 a night. I would take him over Westbrook and Harden and those are top 5 guys. I can win a ring with Butler doing what he does best, if you surround him with talent. You wont win anything with memechucking rebound stealing turnover machines. And out of the top 10 how many play like that? How many of them win? Shit Durrant was know as Durrcant because of his playstyle. Then he joined a team with so much talent you couldn't lose (Finds a way to anyway).

Kyrie is a number two nigga, I think he realizes that mentally and his game.

Raptors gave up Valanciunas and CJ Miles.

The Celtics would have to give up Morris and Smart/Rozier.

>Should have never brought the uppity buck into the impressionable locker room
It's him or the manlet, might as well deal the manlet and attempt to persuade Kyrie to stay.

You would not take Harden over butler

>Team barely loses in Conference Final or NBA Finals
>Put up a hell of a fight almost to the point where both teams in finals were equal
>Instead of keeping all the players on said team together and just running it back the next year, the GMs trade key starting players
>The losing teams end up worse than they were the last year

Why do they do this? The Rockets is the best example of this and it started off with Trevor Ariza. Had they kept all the pieces from last year, they might've won against the Warriors this year.

Look at how many busts the celtics drafted

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Yeah I would. Harden is the most overrated player I've ever seen. And to top it off he's the worst teammate I've ever seen. Go watch the YouTube videos of him stealing rebounds. Or the many times he would dribble out 99% of a shot clock pass it out to a teammate who then turns it over or takes a bad shot then he yells at them for that. Harden is a cunt, and I wont apologize for saying that. Because it's the truth.

ariza was just the owner being cheap

and that's easily explained, billionaires aren't billionaires by taking losses for sentimental value like "competing" - so they pay lip service to giving a damn about winning, and then put profits first like the jews they are

like the bucks just did this summer (despite the possibility of kawhi going west and leaving the east wide freaking open as if it wasn't already)

The manlet sacrificed a lot for the city, arguably costing the Celtics more than they could hope to recover, imagine if the Celts had used the Nets selection to pick up Collin Sexton. Now you have a 21 year old point guard that can drop 16ppg out of bed and shoot 40% on his three point attempts on volume. Should have gone out and got many of the several dozen big men in the NBA that possess the ability to rebound and play defense instead of being small for years when you know the Cavs have TT, Lebron and Love all are above average rebounders.
30 picks in 6 years and not one good player?

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What is Westbrook top 5 at?

>celtics get all the nets picks and hae 0 superstars now
>nets are the better team with 2 superstars
what went wrong?

Well you're a casual then

I assure you they will be much happier with Romeo Langford et al than with Anthony Davis

TJ McConnell is under 27?

>all those 14-16 selections
Feel like you can't blame them for whiffing on the seconds, at all, which make up most of the image but the RJ Hunter, James Young, Lucas Nogueira, Yabusele selections are what's going to haunt them. Never seen so many awful late lottery selections by a single team, they always seem to go after similar types of players as well.

How many 6'6 defensive wings do you need?

FUCK THE ROCKETS

FUCK CP3

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White bois can't age

never realized this was shopped until now

I think most people would put him in the top 5 and pretty much everyone would have him in the top 10. Even tho he is a cunty teammate

Imagine a team with two players like Harden or two like Westbrook. They would self implode 100%. Two players like Butler is a way to build a championship roster. His defense and closing abilities are in the top 5 for sure.

Because he sucks ass and couldn’t get maxed anywhere else dumb ass

That's pretty average considering the Celtics only had 3 top 10 selections.

Marcus Smart is a bench player while Brown and Tatum can't be written off yet. Rookies start to show up when they're like 24-25.

Anyone else find it funny how DeMarcus Cousins is just waiting to see what Kawhi does so he can go to said team and leech a championship?

My mans out here really desperate and it's quite fascinating.

if someone says asuka or rei and you say misato you're an intellectual coward

>Imagine a team with two players like Harden or two like Westbrook. They would self implode 100%.
So that OKC team that made the Finals when everyone was like 20?

based idiot

What if I pick none of the above?

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>I would take Harden cuz he score much points and get much assists and many rebound!

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based desu

Harden led teams have consistently outperformed Butler's teams?

U do realize harden beat butler in a playoff series and hardens last 3 seasons were MVP caliber, and he has has case of being a better shooting guard than Dwyane Wade. Oh yea he was also number 2 in steals this year (158 total compared to jimmys 123). (You) me when butler averages 36ppg and 7apg and single handedly leads his team to the West in the playoffs.

>His defense
dude kawhi walked through him lol

If Kawhi leaves I hope he reinjures his quadriceps and it gets infected and he dies.

Warriors in 9.

>muh west
east > west this upcoming season and last season
im also not the jimmyfag the rest of your post is fine but the west meme needs to die already

goddamn rondo actually punched him?

why do they hate each other?

Kawhi doesn't owe you leaflets a damn thing. He brought yall a championship now be thankful he gave yall one. Who knows when you guys will get another

Years of professional animosity

How did that end? Refresh my memory.

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why does russell westbrook look like that 8 year old black kid that lives down the street from me

Players who are above average defenders are ridiculously overrated in this league when there's players like harden who can drop 35+ on any given night. Great job,,butler you defended a pick and roll for 5 possessions and aren't as valuable defensively as a big wouls be! Harden will make 4 stepback 3s a game on 7 attempts!!

Do you think Orlando, Brooklyn, and the Pistons have a chance at the Clippers, Spurs and thunder? The West has been considerably stronger than the east these past couple years.

Lets be real, what a fucking incredible season we had laast year.

They trade James Harden for a 34 year old Kevin Martin

Kawhi toasted people on mis matches and switches....like 90% of the NBA. He didnt do shit to Butler or Giannis one on one for that matter.

>They would self implode 100%
They beat the Lakers, reigning championship Mavs and the Spurs who won two years later then decided not to pay Harden who has been the focal player of a perennially top 5 Western club that has cycled his support throughout this time there?

Martin had my favorite ugly jumper in league history

Legitimately what are you talking about

Have you ever even watched any of these people play

with a cheap cowfucker owner trading away 1/3 of a championship core so he could afford more cows to fuck

At first glance I thought Russ had the legs of a chicken until I realized he was wearing black leggings and there was someone else behind him.

Players who are above average on defense live almost entirely off of reputation on that side of the ball, ask a guy in person whether or not a nonsuperstar is good at defense and watch him squirm trying to think of it off the top of his head. It's not easily quantifiable like offense so if Harden goes for 50-10-10 and Butler 25-5-5 an autist might just say Butler was more valuable that night due to defense.

Mark you calendar chubby it’s less than a year away

they had to chose between harden/ibaka to avoid luxury tax and ibaka seemed to be the clear correct choice

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The same goes for them...but you can even say he did better than both offensively. Which is why he's here and they are there.

This team would make every team in the league nowadays look like scrubs.

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Why is Tobias Harris' midrange shot so fucking clunky? He usually makes it but its such a nasty looking shot that it always makes me nervous

Holy shit. Westbrook is one tall ass motherfucker.

They'd get run off the court by the Orlando Magic, you just go ahead and try and hold a team to 60 points today and not be able to buck back at them with some shooting.

This is fucking outrageous that these fellas were all on the same team

Still cant believe they didn’t win

Heard his dick game was something serious too

kys

I started noticing that all nba players have chicken legs.

I dont get it how did they not win?

You are missing the entirety of my posts. Harden is a ARTIFICIAL superstar.

>Takes bad shots
>Flops for free throws
>Steal rebounds right out of a player's hands
>Dribbles out the shot clock on 99% of his possessions if he cant find his shot in the first 22 seconds he passes it out to a teammate so he can miss a shot or turn it over and not himself

You like talking shit about Butler. Where was this MVP when his team needed him most? His best and only chance to beat the Warriors and win a championship is on the line. Without a doubt they needed the MVP to show up. Not the volume scorer he is. Which one showed up?

Maybe if he played some defense or can move the fucking ball he would have beaten the Warriors. He is right now Carmelo with a beard. Prove me wrong.

I don't know man, you see how successful Paul George was against Portland this year? Marcus Smart really fucked up Milwaukee! Damn, did you see DPOY Rudy Gobert absolutely put the stops on Houston!?!?!?!? I can't wait until Draymond Green gets his own team in free agency next year, his defense alone will carry them to a title.

They weren't who they are now. Some would even argue those OKC days is what made them who they are now.

ya seethe?

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still can't believe this actually happened

3 fucking MVPs couldn't work it ou t.

that's serge

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Are you one of them stupid niggers I keep hearing about?

>Still cant believe they didn’t win

they were still on rookie contracts when they got broken up for chrissakes, they never even got a real chance to play together

harden didn't develop into who he is now until he stepped out of the shade. same kinda for russ but it's also allowed him to be more of a monster

CP3 to the lakers would make my dick hard as fuck

Do you niggas just save these pics just in case a convo like this comes up or do you guys talk about gay shit so much that you guys have folders filled with these kinda pics for convenience?

Yep that's exactly how those niggas be doing, they really think only defense matters in what has become a game to 120pts

>Nobody watns Boogie

lakers vet min incoming

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I'd like to see that more than Kawhi to Lakers, gives us a new super team while not completely destroying another squad.

They would chimp out over elite offensive players drawing fouls and hitting stepback perimeter shots, with teams attempting 30+ 3s a game. This would cause them to "take it back to the bad boy days" and clothesline the Opfor, leading to suspension.

actual facts. silver would never deny CP3 his rightful place next to lebron

SKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEUP

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If the 2004 Pistons played today their 11.8 3PA per game would not only be the lowest in the entire NBA by more than twice as many attempts (25 for the Spurs) but their 34% mark would be below average as well. That is one team that would not survive the 3pt revolution

what are you talking about lol they were basically the raptors of the 2000s.

There isn't a single MVP in that pic. KD 2014, WB 2016, Harden 2017

All with different circumstances and not on the same team

>All these excuses


si.com/nba/2018/09/10/top-100-nba-players-2019-lebron-james-stephen-curry-dirk-nowitzki#partfour

Look up any top 10 Westbrook is in all of them So is Harden. Yet these guys are phoney superstars and are universally hated on by guys that have won rings. I wonder why?

I'm not surprised that a Canadian is confused. Maybe i should type it out in hindi or Arabic so its easier to understand for you

that is legitimate, genuine, high quality seethe

are you kidding me lol obviously they would shoot more threes as well if they played in todays day and age??

he's right you know. and honestly the best argument for kawhi not going is that it damages kawhi's own legacy.

To be fair, Bron just playing the game how it's being played currently. He only creates super teams to get rid of super teams.

SKKEEEEEEEEEEEUUUHHHHHEEEEHHP

I hope Kawhi just goes somewhere really random

>MJ was never on a superteam
every time

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racism

What super team is he attempting to get rid of now?

>ARTIFICIAL superstar.
What the fuck does that mean you autist. I guarantee you ask any player in the league and they'll tell you Harden is an actual fucking hooper and a talented ELITE scorer. Don't get pissed off cause you're a casual who cries "muh flop" "muh bad shots" when he's averaging 36ppg for the season on good efficiency and being the best player on an above .500 team. Jesus Christ you're so fucking pitiful. I actually don't underdtsnd how people like you watch basketball. I don't understand how you value Jimmy Butler's "defense" so much that your mouth is practically dripping his cum when there's players out here doing more impressive shit on the side of the floor that WINS games. Defeat, you fucking loser.

THIS JUST IN, KAWHI TO THE HORNETS

This “happiness” Durant’s seeking in winning a title won’t happen unless he goes back to okc and get it done.

He can win 3 more rings with kyrie in Brooklyn but the satisfaction won’t be there for him still. LeBron knew to solidify his legacy he needed to reach the mountain top for Cleveland, Kobe knew he had to get at least one more title without Shaw, MJ for his ego he just had to beat and get rid of the piston

????????
yea giannis and... brook lopez. lookin unstoppable breh!

I hope he signs with the Chicago Cubs....just to fuck with Laker fans.

>Defense doesn't matter!

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LeBron has worse career stats than Karl Malone

Wjhen you really think about it, LeBron is Karl Malone with the mind of a pissy diva that needs to form superteams to win while Malone was conservative traditional and only needed Stockton.

when lebron beat the warriors he probably fucked thee shit out of his wife lmfao

Well AD was already in effect when he thought GS was going to be a problem....

karl malone raped a teenage girl doe...

>lakers get kawhi
>lebron, AD, & kawhi can't stay healthy
they should've gotten brook & seth they're sooo fucking retarded

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nigga was Karl malone playing against the talent in todays NBA?

I guess if you consider Dennis Rodman to be a superstar, to me the second three-peat Bulls are more like the Warriors before they added KD. Defensive orientated undersized big man, albeit with even less offensive skill as Rodman wasn't a proficient passer and rarely looked to score, in Rodman/Green, best offensive player in the world in Jordan/Curry, and best perimeter defender on the team is Klay.

That team is nowhere nearly as good as KD, Curry, Klay and Green or Wade, Bosh, and Lebron. Or, to a lesser degree, K Love, Kyrie and Lebron. Each of these guys except Green, and Rodman, has the capability of being the best player on a playoff team. If you gave those guys their own team they wouldn't qualify for the post season.

this next trade, this next trade though

Not saying it doesn't matter. Defense definitely matters. Just saying it's massively overrated when it's an offensively driven league. And it's less valuable on perimeter players than bigs.

>MJ DID NOT NEED OR WANT TWO OTHER TOP FIVE PLAYERS
first, >implying Davis is top 5
second, just... lol. stick to football Skeeup. you have absolutely no idea what youre talking about

He probably fucked thee shit out of your wife too, you fucking cuck

>implying AD and Kawhi aren't top 5 players
post your 5 user

the team that came closest to beating the raptors only got so close because of their defense but ok retard whatever you say

shieeeet i wish xDD

Karl Malone literally shitted on Stockton towards the end of his career, raped and impregnated an underage girl and disowns this said child to this day and doesn’t even really care for half the many children he’s fathered

Just saying when Kawhi hit that shot to send the Raptors to the ECF that it was a perfectly defended play. Defense gives your team more possessions but it doesn't put points on the board.

based

lmao, fucking gottem

>seething Warriors fan

Wife isn't all that hot either, but as I recall it was a statutory rape while he was in college. Can't remember whether she was like 12-13 or 15 though, I think he gave her some money and his offspring actually made the NFL although I'm not sure in what all capacity

He's right.

philly is gonna win the chimp this year i can feel it

living the dream

>Kawhi
>Durant
>Giannis
>LeBron
>Klay

How many rings does Karl have tho?

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He had to play vs both the Showtime and Shaq Lakers, Chuck's Suns, Spurs, MJ's Bulls, Hakeem's Rockets, and still made the Finals twice with Stockton and "Greg Ostertag" as his best teammates.

Compare that to BTFO in record margin to a young worse Spurs team than Admiral and Duncan Spurs, old ass overrated Celtics trio, 22 year old KD and WB with 9ppg in the Finals Harden, a better Spurs team they needed refball to win one series against but BTFO the next year, and a bunch of literal who fodder teams in the worst period of the Eastern conference's history

A then 20-year-old Malone impregnated Bell’s mother… when she was 13.

– In 1986, Bell’s grandparents took Malone to court, where paternity tests proved that the then second-year Jazz forward was indeed Bell’s father. Malone was ordered to pay $125 a week, plus “past and future medical expenses.” But Malone claimed that it was too much, and later settled out-of-court with the family.

It's confirmed she was 12 when he sexed her and she gave birth at 13. Karl Malone is a fucking piece of shit.

ok stop posting itt until kawhi signs pls!!!!

it wasn't perfectly defended, Embiid shouldn't have switched with Simmons

If Malone left Culttah for Miami or LA early in his career he'd have 5 rings, especially if he went to the Lakers before 1993

Simmons shouldn't have switched either he should have been glued to Kawhi 100%

Pingalore already said the Clippers are the favorite. Rest easy.

Yeah 12-15 age range is too young, nigga should have been getting white co-ed pussy at that point assuredly. 6 foot 9 good looking country black dude in the early 80s playing basketball and instead of smashing on PRIME white women he has access to for the first time he rapes some little black girl?

He's clearly a predator

karl malone fucked the mother of the user that knew lebron fucked my wife after he beat the warriors. so ask yourself would you rather have your mother get malone'd or wife get lebron'd

Now that I think about it, Malone really is better all time than LeShitstain

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youtube.com/watch?v=iE3rpbU0J2M

Is it worse to have consensual but obviously nonconsensual sex with a 13 year old or rape a 23 year old? Also kinda crazy how Kobe's wife is such an average looking chick, I think I read some place Kobe was messing with her underage so her family was able to lock his black ass down

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chris broussard is ruining undisputed for me tbqh...

It cracks my ass up seeing the Karl Malone statutory rape thing get brought up everytime he's mentioned. Nigga is never gonna escape that shit. Man could have had any white piece of meat in the world and he settled for a child.

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he didn't really switch. watch a replay of it - he looks kind lost as soon as Embiid switches on to him, and is sort of cut off by Joel's movement

imagine a star player actually wanting to play for the clippers lmao xd

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that "light skin" jealousy bit had me in fucking tears it was so cringe worthy

Malone was in high school when he fucked that girl and she faked being 16

NOT HIS FAULT shit like that happens all the time.

He pretended not to be the father because he was scared of his marriage falling apart and the media finding out but it wasn't malicious

You gotta be careful about all these knotty headed hoes gold digging and trying to get your bag

A black child at that, to me that's so weird. Good looking tall swole black guy at college on scholarship, could literally pick up a litter of white girls in their absolute prime with one arm and he's fucking around with kids?

Moses is the GOAT Malone

Worthy is the GOAT James then

alright karl settle down its just banter

I don't care about era/shooting threes, you take an elbow like that it's going to hurt.

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IF THE LAKERS GET KAWHI LEONARD I DON’T EVER WANT TO HEAR “LEBRON HAS NO HELP” EVER AGAIN.

Dwyane wade
Chris Bosh
Ray Allen
Kyrie Irving
Kevin Love
Anthony Davis
Kawhi Leonard?

Can’t think of any superstar that’s been able to play with as many stars in his career. Weak.

He didn't get married till 1990 and went to court in 86 so no probably not, as far as was she claiming 16 or could she have looked 16 I'd have to see but I've always heard he got her pregnant in college. I'm sure all the details are lost on this sort of thing now

>Malone was in high school
College.

>and she faked being 16
No idea where you're getting this information. There's a clear distinction between a 12 year old and a 16 year old. And why would a 12 year old in the 80s have the concept of faking her age to get an athlete's cock?? Can you not accept the fact Karls gorilla child predator jungle hormones were chimping out over 12 year old poon? Quit tryna justify this shit you pathetic incel hahahaahaha

It's never going to end until he retires.

>can get any woman
>fucks a child
Why?

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This is Demetress Bell and Karl Malone's victim, so obviously this is at least several months after the assault. Her breast would have been smaller when Malone met her, she looks pretty young breh..

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answer me you coward

I think the only people older than 25 on that team were Perkins, Derek Fisher, and Nick Collison

You're cracking me up user lmao

Guy probably likes kids or was incredibly drunk, although I'd have to imagine when you have that quality of life your dick has to only get up for really cute white girls.

why did this thread turn into /karlmalone/ general all of a sudden

okc perkins was legit

There's a wiki article retard why the fuck are you posting this shit?

Cause there's retards here who think butler is better than harden and that Karl Malone is better than Bron so we are clowning around, much similar to what Malone does at day care centers

because he raped kids and lost to mj. living the dream

Because LeShit has worse career stats than Malone
No he fucking wasn't, he was never the same after his torn ACL in Boston and was a liability in the playoffs every team they played the Spurs and Heat

No one thinks Butler is than Harden but Malone is legit better than LeShit

Imagine LeShit having to play in the golden era of basketball instead of LeFreeAgency era with this pussy niggas making superteams

Does anybody even say Lebron has no help unironically at this point?

LMAO Malone played in a much easier era than Bron.

LeBron would have a worse career FG%, FTA, and PPG if he played in the halfcourt grind hand checking era like Malone

Dude didn't get a post game until he was 31 and lives in transition.

I’d say, having watched both their careers from start to finish, Malone was better and played with a lot less talent. People are gonna freak out and say John Stockton, but could you even imagine a star forward playing the entirety of his career with one all star guar today? Kevin Durant alone has played with two MVPs, Lebron has D Wade who’s going down no worse than top 5 at an extremely talented position historically, and Kyrie who I’d argue in all things not longevity, defense and playmaking is better than Stockton.

People talk about todays talent level but never do the inverse, Karl Malone’s #2 guy literally had no left hand

m.youtube.com/watch?v=hQq_miApSzs

I’m pretty sure middle school kids are clowned today about not having ambidextrous handles. It’s feasible Malone would have won hardware if he didn’t run into Jordan, who had Scottie and Rodman. Stockton is 5’11

Casual detected LMAO

Don't even bother damage controlling you outed yourself hard

Malone is probably the most notorious playoff choker of all time whereas LeBron won 3 finals mvps and been to 8 straight finals sooo

Notorious yeah because of MJ's legacy

Name 3 instances of chocking outside of a Bulls series, and in those Bulls series it's the turnover and MJ's shot, Malone was guarded by Dennis Rodman and help defense by Pippen

LeBron is a way more notorious playoff choker lmao every win he has was due to Stern/Silverball and dumb luck

>Karl Malone only played MJ in the playoffs
Quit defending a stat padding forward who choked in the playoffs WHO DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A RING. This is literally like you're talking about Westbrook.

Non Sequitur

Try again piss ant

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why'd she do it

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A Lebron fan talking about rings?

The closest Karl Malone has ever gotten to a ring was the hymen of that 12 year old he raped

>3-6
>advanced stats

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Karl Malone and John Stockton played together for 20 years. They played MJ's bulls twice

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Scottie did it dozens of times

Name the instances

Tick Tock the point didn't stop

Westbrook would have a ring if it wasn't for Bron's legacy

Yeah, his legacy of being a bitch and getting a top 5 player and a top 15 player to go to Miami and dominate a shit Leastern Conference

Fucking Atlanta Hawks have the best record he's ever bested in the ECF

New thread

LeBron's greatest achievment was breaking Bogut's leg and getting Apemond suspended

Malone's greatest achievement is being toe to toe with MJ in MVP voting for years and only losing because he had a shit PR backing

500

500

Regardless of any stats harden is consistently trash in the playoffs. He’s a regular season super hero